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THREE Nuclear Containment Vessels Leaking in Japan ... But U.S. Law Is Based on Assumption that It Is Impossible for Containment Vessels to Leak

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It is newsworthy that the operator of Japan's stricken nuclear plants is finally admitting that Fukushima reactor number 1 has melted down.

But nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen says that the containment vessels for reactors 1, 2 and 3 are all leaking.

However, Gundersen points out, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission assumes that containment vessels cannot leak
and there is a "zero probability of containment leakage". U.S..
nuclear laws are based around that obviously false assumption.

Fukushima - One Step Forward and Four Steps Back as Each Unit Challenged by New Problems from Fairewinds Associates on Vimeo.

 

As I've previously demonstrated, the NRC is wholly captured by the nuclear industry.

Similarly, Reuters points out :

"TEPCO seems to be going backwards in getting the situation under control and things may well be slowly eroding with all the units having problems," said Tom Clements with Friends of the Earth, a U.S.-based environmental group.

"At
this point, TEPCO still finds itself in unchartered waters and is not
able to carry out any plan to get the situation under control," he said.

As I discussed yesterday, Tepco has grossly mismanaged the response to the nuclear accident.

There are various proposals for solving the Japanese nuclear crisis. As physicist Michio Kaku said only days after the accident:

What they are doing is basically using squirt guns against a raging forest fire.

***

Do
what Gorbachev did, call out the Japanese air force, get the army to
bring a fleet of helicopters armed with sand, boric acid and concrete,
entomb it, bury it in concrete.

As Reuters reports:

U.S.
nuclear experts said that the company may have to build a concrete
wall around the unit because of the breach, and that this could now
take years.

"If it is assumed the fuel did melt through the
reactor, then the most likely solution is to encapsulate the entire
unit. This may include constructing a concrete wall around the unit and
building a protective cover over it," W. Gene Corley, senior vice
president of CTL Group in Skokie, Illinois, said on Thursday.

"Because
of the high radiation that would be present if this has happened, the
construction will take many months and may stretch into years," Corley
said.

But since Fukushima is right on the Pacific Ocean, burying it in concrete would not necessarily stop leakage into the ocean.

As Reuters reports, Gundersen might have a better - although technically difficult - approach:

TEPCO
should consider digging a trench around reactors 1-3 all the way down
to the bedrock, which is about 50 feet below the surface, said Arnie
Gundersen, Chief Engineer at Fairewinds Associates Inc of Burlington,
Vermont, who once worked on reactors of similar design to the Fukushima
plant.

He said this should be filled with zeolite, which can
absorb radioactive cesium to stop more poisons from leaking into the
groundwater around the plant.

 

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Sat, 05/14/2011 - 21:20 | 1275220 Money Squid
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George - I recall in early April the news began reporting flashes of blue light indicating recriticality. There is a live video feed of Fukushima 24/7 but I have not been able to find any video clips showing the blue light at night when the lighting at the plant was still out. I believe now there are flood lights at night to help the workers, but this may obscure the blue light. Do you have any info about the existence of video showing the blue light at night?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 19:28 | 1273303 Fix It Again Timmy
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As for the human race, we will party on until we drop, every major species seems to have been afflicted with an event that was a barn burner...

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:53 | 1273225 Clowns on Acid
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Really ? Who cares...when the more important news is:

Breaking news ...

a Video of Pippa Middleton dancing Salsa in her Dad pants has been LEAKED on the Internet

on other News
...
The Nuclear plan at Fukushima will keep LEAKING for years.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/13/fukushima-reactor-meltdown-flooding-warning?commentpage=all#start-of-comments

Lame Stream Media knows what is important for YOU. If you question that proposition....then you are extremist and out of the mainstream.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 19:20 | 1273285 Burticus
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It's spelled "lamescream"!  The cheerleading parrots in the lamescream gubmint-media complex run the psy-op propaganda machine.

What I wanna know is where TF is the banzai charge on the reactor core?  What ever happened to bushido?!  During WWII, thousands of Jap soldiers fearressry charged into heavy machine gun fire and kamikazied ships for a hoperess cause?  Now, the whole damn isrand is getting irradiated, putting millions of their ferrow citizens' lives and futures at risk, and they can't get a miserable thousand heroic volunteers to shut these reactors down or entomb them?  A mere few decades ago, the TEPCO officers and board would have already honorably committed sempuku (televised in the modern era), disemboweling themselves, trusting their "second" to lop off their ukraniums before they cry out and rooze face.  Have they become sissified dawgs too?

Now I know were **cked.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:14 | 1273153 Burticus
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It's spelled " $#!+ ", @$$#01e!.  You can't make this $#!+ up!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:04 | 1273129 red_pill_rash
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How else can you get an 80% population reduction by 2050 without anyone noticing?

 

Go long psychopathy......well as long as you can.

 

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:47 | 1273092 hangemhigh77
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Since Fuku is right on the beach they could advertise a beach community with lots of vacant beachfront for sale.  Build condos right on the water.   They can sell them cheap.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:45 | 1273089 hangemhigh77
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Or construct around the plant a retirement community.  All retired people can be shipped to the community and live there FREE for as long as they can live.  With all the remaining evacuated land around the plant they would have space for thousands of square miles of graves.  

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:40 | 1273197 onarga74
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Name it 'The Afterglow'

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:45 | 1273085 hangemhigh77
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They should build condos right next to the plants and sell them with the added extra of "FREE ELECTRICITY".  And you don't even have to actually plug any lights into the wall sockets.  You could build them without any electrical outlets, it would save on the construction costs.  Plus you can tell them they get a light show every night from the nuclear fission taking place right next door.  

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:39 | 1273079 hangemhigh77
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Is Anne Coulter on site getting a healthy radiation tan?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:40 | 1273070 hangemhigh77
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This is all so stupid.  Any globalist would know that what you do is open it up for tourism.  Sell hotdogs and let the tourists marvel that all they have to do is put the dog in the bun with a little mustard and watch it cook right in front of your eyes. Yummy!!!  You could have circus sideshows where entertainment clowns could walk around with light bulbs magically lit from the radiation.  It could be a fun time for all and raise money for Japan and the millions of people that will die from various horrifying and painful forms of cancer.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:20 | 1273045 TheMerryPrankster
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If the foundations are  sinking and cracking, shouldn't it only be a matter of time before the stress cause collapse of the containment structures? How far off plumb does a steel containment vessel have to tilt before it falls over, especially in an earthquake prone area that continues to experience large aftershocks?

Perhaps that is why they are dragging their feet on clearing the area and attempting any construction. Maybe they are waiting for a structural collapse.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:02 | 1272983 DollarMenu
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Thank you GW.

I am grateful for your dedication to your own ideals.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:02 | 1272980 Buck Johnson
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All this is leaking because they can't hide it anymore either in the data or from leaks. 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:01 | 1272971 Stuck on Zero
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The containment vessels are bound to leak.  They have hundreds of pipes, many doors, and thousands of electrical connections penetrating them.  The main feedwater coolant pipes are probably a meter in diameter.  The object is to keep the radioactive elements from heading elsewhere.  The best solution at this point is to keep it all cool and drain all water into a waiting barge(s) to be processed somewhere.  Groundwater wells can pull contaminated water up and into the barge.  Don't use Zeolite.  Use bentonite clay all around the plant to prevent contaminated water from spreading.

This is all elementary cleanup 1. 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:11 | 1273014 TheMerryPrankster
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Can we still call them "Containment Vessels" when they really aren't containing much, shouldn't they be renamed "Uncontrolled Release Vessels" or maybe "NonContainment Vessels" ?

Perhaps Very Large Scale Sieves, aka VLSS would be a more proper acronym. I noticed that nobody is sure where the Corium is. It would seem to be a prudent measure to try to locate the 2300 degree centigrade molten radioactive material, if clean up and containment were really a priority, doesn't it?

Corium meets ring of fire, what could possibly go wrong?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:55 | 1272964 InconvenientCou...
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"As long as it doesn't go KABOOM!!! it'll never make the MSN."

I think I understand what you mean with the comment. A fission explosion is not going to happen. That's the good news.

As for the bad news... According to Arnie a piece of nuke fuel was blasted out at a roughly the velocity of a bullet fired from an AK-47.

Keep watching, keep reading.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:53 | 1272953 onarga74
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This PeeWee Herman adventure has needed adult supervision from day 1. It's imperative to create a multinational response team to prevent this tragedy from ever happening again. Any idea how much lethal garbage is floatin around? Who needs ecosystems?  We don't need no steeenkin sealife.

  Where is the freakin Breaking News Network?  There is no news.  That died with Walter.  Does anyone remember that one of the chief engineers went to the Japanese gov and to Hitachi and they said "don't worry.  Go away".  Why was that story canned?  I sent this article to BNN and ABC, CNBC,  etc. NOTHING! 

Again, a disaster team must have the power to intervene especially with professional croutons like these.  Here's the story again...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-23/fukushima-engineer-says-he-cove...

 

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:49 | 1272937 majia
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A story found in the British Columbian press (hat tip reader at e-news http://enenews.com/meltdown-1-reactor-could-escalate-rapidly-lava-melts-reactor-vessel):

http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/121743059.html

"Rod Marining is not taking any chances. The co-founder of Greenpeace International and part-time Sunshine coast resident was trained in B.C. on radiation and its effects through Greenpeace. He is also a director and member of the committee, Better Radiation Testing in B.C.


“No radiation is safe,” he said. “Once you start dealing with radiation you’re going to see increases in cancer, birth defects … it will attack your immune system and start to wreak havoc.”


"This is why Marining and his family are up in the Cariboo where they are supplied by well water..."

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:47 | 1272928 Sudden Debt
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They'd better file for bankruptcy and the entire problem is solved.

 

Why does it always have to be so hard?

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:40 | 1272888 divide_by_zero
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Do we have any regulators or law enforcemnent for that matter that aren't "wholly captured"?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:39 | 1272887 Atch Logan
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Are lyou questioning US "law"?  If the law says they are not leaking, then they are not leaking.  Obama would say to your charges:  Kiss My Butt.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:05 | 1272992 AZSovreign
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Oblahma would simply say hell build a mote an fill it with zeolite alligators...

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:03 | 1272986 knukles
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There is no such thing as impossible; after all, G. William Miller, a lawyer by trade, when appointed head of the Fed tried to repeal the law of supply and demand.

How'd that work for 'ya Mr. Carter?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:37 | 1272870 UncleFurker
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If they sit around placing pride above the environment much longer, it will be time for someone to invade them, to take over the clean-up.

 

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:31 | 1272843 The Heart
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Thank you GW for staying on this disaster in Japan.

And much gratitude for all of you that will come along here to positivly comment on this subject and add the knowledge you all do.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:31 | 1272833 treemagnet
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If you make nuclear power safe by allowing for every possible and impossible event its no longer economically viable.  Burn coal and the treehuggers are on your ass.  Wind - apparently they're just not pretty enough for some, solars a joke.  How about candles, anybody got a problem with beeswax? 

Sat, 05/14/2011 - 19:40 | 1274945 patb
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solar's not a joke.  In the Southwest, it's highly practical.

 

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:41 | 1273076 Ruffcut
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We have coal burning all over. Where are all the treehuggers again? Those who halt drilling in alaska? Environmentalist?

Listen to rush and npr bullshit some more. Read something intense and concentrate on comprehension. INstead, of buying opinions of morons.

Nuclear was never economically viable, only subsidized for weapons with more gov debt, to fight nuke wars, which no one could ever win.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:54 | 1273103 treemagnet
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Exactly whose opinion am I "buying"?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:55 | 1272963 DollarMenu
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Colony Collapse Disorder.

No bees.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:51 | 1273095 WaterWings
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worker bees can leave
even drones can fly away
the queen is their slave

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:21 | 1273049 Poofter Priest
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Good one D.M.  +++++

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:22 | 1272810 max2205
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As long as it doesn't go KABOOM!!! it'll never make the MSN.

There's so much shit under the rug that this must be the next big bubble to blow up. Rug bubble!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:21 | 1272805 medicalstudent
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i think what we are seeing now is denial on a humanitywide scale.

 

when this tide turns into anger...

 

..._____________(fill in the blank)

 

(hepa, reverse osmosis, polimaster/terra)

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:17 | 1272786 jus_lite_reading
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"Tepco has grossly mismanaged the response to the nuclear accident."

That's putting it mildly!! Let's call a spade a spade.... they F'd up, then tried to cover it up from day one, then F'd up a whole lot more, then tried to put the kabash on bloggers exposing the truth about them. Fraud, corruption, greed, dishonesty, greed, fraud. Tepcos response sounds like the financial systems daily newspaper.... the world is screwed.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:16 | 1273030 Vic Vinegar
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All true. 

You, I, George, and the rest of us here may get clipped by Fuku.  Some of us certainly will.  And no gov’t, Japan, US, or whoever, will ever tell you the truth about it.  They don’t care about you.   

But if even Osama can Pause 4 Porno, then we all can find things in life to celebrate and enjoy.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:08 | 1272740 earnyermoney
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GW,

 

Are you surprised by the lack of class action law suits in this instance? Surely, GE and its partners are libel for the poor design of this plant? I'm not a lawyer so I'm curious in this instance.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 20:59 | 1273459 Hephasteus
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One global corporation killed 20 thousand people in india left and won't help or do anything. Gas leak or explosion or something.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 18:41 | 1273198 Weisbrot
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tsunami &/or earth quake = no legal remedy

 

however incompetence in the aftermath = legal field day

 

unfortunately for all of us the situation is only getting worse

 

 

 

 

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 17:01 | 1272975 knukles
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Did TEPCO purchase an extended warranty?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 16:12 | 1272701 Rynak
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"Impossible" is a dangerous word, when designing nuclear plant safety, and market strategies..... especially when this "impossibility" involves a single point of failure.

P.S.: One big problem with the "ring security"-model, is that when people design such rings, they have a tendency to think of a confined attack, instead of a distributed attack. Phrased another way: They tend to look at one "ring" at a time, imagine an attack inside that ring, which in case of a break then traverses to the next ring. The scenario of a distributed attack on all (or multiple) rings, gets less attention.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 14:33 | 1272443 Rusty_Shackleford
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call out the Japanese air force, get the army

 

Japan has an Air Force?

http://www.saynotocrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/japan_flight_school.jpg

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