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Note: rare earths are quite common. The "rare", meaning exotic, comes from the time when it was very difficult to separate the pure element from the mineral containing it. That has changed and the earths are available for cheap. They are not precious.
gold is common too - its all over the place including the water in the oceans. However, rare earth elements, like gold, are not often in large enough concentrations/amounts to make mining feasible.
That's a tautology that can be said of anything...
Being feasible, mined gold is still expensive while mined rare earths are cheap. Don't buy rare earths thinking they are precious, like the sell side want the unaware investor to believe.
If a war is in the works they will want to knock down the price of gold and oil first, good and hard.
This report makes too much sense. So of course it will circulate among a small group and be ignored by the MSM and the consensus point of view. Sad, very sad.
For all the yelling and screaming by the pro and con Israeli screamers here on ZH, one fact remains seldom talked about but mostly accepted as a "given". Governments in trouble will start wars. And the developed would is in Trouble with a capital "T".
[Owners of] Governments [get] in trouble [to] start wars.
:)
Nit picker! :p)
Will it be a real war this time, or just another invasion?
I agree anyway...what else will they do about the ballooning unemployment problem. Unemployment gets bad enough, they won't have as much trouble selling it to potential recruits, as they did before. A lot of desperate people out there who would put their life on the line for a paycheque for them and their families, especially now that the unemployment bennies are hitting the wall. Draft wouldn't even be necessary.
War, the ultimate social "make work" project. Goes way back to the late dynasty Egyptians and probably even earlier.
There is zero chance for a draft in the US. Also, your analysis is flawed because any new war will not result in a large enough influx into the military to make any difference. Iran is a pushover in war terms--not as easy a target as Iraq, but looking at both Iraq and Afghanistan what we see are very small force sizes. None of this is on the same scale as Viet Nam, and orders of magnitude smaller than World War II.
The only accomplishment of the two current "wars" is to transfer wealth to the military industry. Body armor is the new draft, and decisive victory is planned out of the model by design, which is really why McChrystal said what he said and then resigned. He knows the game.
good pick up! I luv ZH!!!! XD
ummm, you lost me at "planetary alignment" - sorry dude
Small narrow minds frequently get lost when thinking outside the box.
If calling bullshit on charting our destiny by the alignment of randomly formed balls of rock, gas, and energetic matter floating in outer space, is having a small and narrow mind, sign me up - In the words of the great philosopher, Charles Barkley, "I might be wrong, but I doubt it."
why don't we just slaughter some goats and look at the entrails or read tea leaves or chicken bones - me, I prefer the magic 8 ball - at least I'm pretty sure everybody knows that's crap
here's a very simple formula - works all the time in advertising/PR - put together a whole shitload of very specific-sounding information (facts, figures, charts, jargon, numbers, diagrams, etc) ; make it look like it all ties together (perhaps in your mind it does, or at least appears to {by virtue of the fact that, as humans, our minds are hardwired to "recognize" attributable patterns, where often none even exist}) ; and sounds authentic and believable ; and cite a group of disparate but "credible sources", and people will believe it
I'll take common sense over that any day - if it looks like shit, and smells like shit, it probably came out of someone's (or something's) ass
I used to get on this site because I thought I had something to learn about markets/investing/trading from people who appear informed and intelligent, but, whether the character of the posts/posters has deteriorated, or whether my own point of view has changed, I have come to realize that in many cases, it's just another "hive" groupthink session - albeit one with people whose views happen not to conform with what they (in their own minds) characterize as "mainstream"
So put that in your pipe and smoke it, cake boy... ;-)
in the words of the foolish poet Gnarls Barkley:
And I hope that you are
Having the time of your life
But think twice
That's my only advice
Come on now, who do you
Who do you, who do you, who do you think you are?
Ha ha ha, bless your soul
You really think you're in control?
Well, I think you're crazy
I think you're crazy
I think you're crazy
Just like me
Common sense is simply another word for consensus reality, which is often wrong. And science is a cult in many respects. People believe in "science" as fervently as some belief in Jesus. Science is simply one way of describing our world. There is so much science can't explain and science is constantly correctly and re-correctly itself all the time.
To state anything as "fact" is naive and small minded. Read some scientific journals form 100 years ago and read about what was impossible and what was fact back then. I thing the bravest thing anyone can possibly do is to say "what if" when everyone else is saying "impossible".
+1000
Observation is the only form of truth we have. Science makes observations, but then hypothesizes far beyond what their obersvations yield. Indeed, it takes a degree of faith equal to that of religion to "believe" in science. Fortunately for me I have no "beliefs" and allow my perception to change with my observations, not the other way around.
I agree that groupthink is something that we all need to be vigilant about and take steps to eradicate whenever it reaches saturation levels.
lol "common sense" - the sensibility of the average? well, you're hardly unique I guess.
for what it's worth, I fearlessly read the entire post, and I can report there are no "cooties" - it's safe to peruse. . . I don't agree with all of the astrological interps he researched, but give him props for seeking them out. . . and the bits about the bilderberg and trilateral meet-ups just add to the mix. . .
but I can agree in general that the last few days of July and early August 2010 hold the potential for "shock 'n' awe" to many "systems". . . zero degrees of the cardinal points (aries, cancer, libra, capricorn) correspond to the solstice and equinox points, sacred days for cultures dating back to ancient greece, and even today, in western calendars, they represent an official change of seasons (spring, summer, fall, winter).
this planetary configuration is rare - the last time a similar set-up of the same planets in cardinal signs was around 1930. . . although not the same planets in the same signs, as they have different length cycles (obviously). . .
I've posted this before - but this completely dismissive attitude to the study of planetary cycles is a form of denial, setting up a boundary around what is "truth" for the individual. . . fine if you want to limit your awareness or understanding to consensus reality, but damn! why would one want to do that? and yes, astrology has it's cheap trivia side, but there are some amazing thinkers (Carl Jung springs to mind) who researched the data and, via observation and correlation, learned from the archetypes represented.
it's like saying "I know music is shit - I once listened to AM radio!"
thanks for this article Tyler - it was truly an interesting read!
"Small narrow minds frequently get lost when thinking outside the box."
You obviously have a large and expansive mind. The danger is such minds frequently get untethered and lost outside the box while contemplating planetary convergences as a financial tool and their superiority over small, narrow minds.
Nope, small mind here as well. I just try to approach life by saying "why not" instead of "impossible". There is a long line stretching back thousands of years of people declaring something as impossible or crazy or ridiculous or whatever, only to be proven wrong at a later time. Pick up some scientific journals from 100 years ago and read what they were stating as fact.
Well, some people may be narrow-minded and some other simple-mined. One thing is to have an open mind, and another is to hook up on any baseless nonsense.
Just look at EU. It´s ungovernable and always at the brink of collapse. And all this with only 27 nations of very similar cultures, ethnicities, religions, languages ...etc, and after 50 years of integration. And I doubt there will ever be just one european government controling the whole of Europe. So how possibly could then ONE government control 200+ nations of vastly different cultures, religions, ethnicities, levels of development .... That´s just impossible. This whole Bilderberg, world government stuff is good for simple-minded lunatics, but in the real world it´s just a laughable, naive fable.
fascinating, unique opinion there kaiten - not!
have you ever looked at a list of the attendees? this year alone had Bill Gates, Eric Schmidt, James Steinberg (US Deputy Sec. of State), as well as the usual Kissinger, Rockefeller & Rothschild reps - seriously, naive fable?
but hey, fuck it - you'd probably die of shock if you started to look at things like H.A.A.R.P. - wiki "microwave auditory effect" if you feel up to a new, cool "fable"
One world government theory may "work" on the paper, it would never work in the real world and therefore meditating about it is a waste of time.
Show me a chinese, indian, arabian, iranian(!), turk, vietnamese, african....... on the list. They may work on controling the minds of americans, but, believe me or not, America is not the world.
Just a naive fable, nothing more.
Even smaller, but quite imaginative minds get totally lost, when they don't understand astrophysics, scales of magnitude, and basic newtonian gravity.
I like a good ghost story as much as the next guy. Hell I even like Alien stories and crop circle mysteries, but I stopped believing in the boogy man somewhere in my preteens.
I have a hard time taking anyone seriously who invokes Zeus, Medusa, Capricorns, or the Mayan Calendar, as investment tools. Mystics, high priests, and seers are....charlatans looking for a mark. Who's getting your cash, CD?
It seems you are taking what I said to someone else personally. Why? It wasn't directed towards you. You rarely comment here on ZH. Does my comment bother you because I'm asking someone to keep an open mind to seemingly impossible things? Just because someone thinks something is impossible doesn't make it impossible. Like I said above, pull up some respected scientific journals from a hundred years ago and take a look at what they thought was impossible.
"Science" is not fact, it's simply one way to describe our world. And from science's point of view, if it can't be weighted, measured or recreated under controlled conditions, it doesn't exist. This is ridiculous. The world is full of events, phenomenon etc that is completely foreign and contrary to everything that "science" stands for. The one thing that science does a very good job of is reassuring people that there are answers to everything. There is clearly many facets of this world that science can't explain. So science will dismiss those things.
You don't hang around here often because if you did you would know who has my cash. I speak about myself and my profession all the time, both as a contributor of articles and in the comment section. Besides, what does my cash have to do with my open mind and world view? You assumption seems to be that an open mind leads to investment loses. Quite the contrary, at least for me.
Cog, I would be way more comfortable if you would say "from science's point of view, if it can't be quantified (weighted, measured, recreated), it can't be relied on". Science accepts the notion that things exist for which we don't yet have the tools to detect their existance. They built the Hadron Collider to try and make visible things suspected but not yet seen.
And if the Random Walk theory has any merit to it, someone investing according to astrological charts will probably do better than someone investing according to Crammer.
"Science accepts the notion that things exist for which we don't yet have the tools to detect their existence."
This is the problem as I see it. Scientists seem to think they just need the next tool, the next meter stick, and it will have everything figured out. I understand your point of view. I'm not fighting you. But I am fighting the conceit of science.
So once science can measure spirituality or the collective consciousness it will acknowledge it but not until then? See, if science said that there were some things that just don't mix with science, I wouldn't have a problem. If it acknowledged it's limitations I would back off. But science seems to insist that some things just can't be. Period.
Or maybe I should say scientists since there is no such thing as "science" but rather the scientific method. I'm a big fan of all things scientific. I love to read about new scientific discoveries and explorations. You would be surprised how many pure scientific journals I subscribe to. But there are limits to every language and science is a language, not the be all end all and not a thing.
This is just my opinion. I accept the limits of my spirituality, at least in the ways and methods I practice it. Why can't scientists accept there are limits to the scientific method, that the method will not and does not explain everything?
I'm tired of science and scientists telling me with absolute statements what is and what is not real, particularly when it's done in journals that spend a few pages each issue correcting mistakes, misstatements or factual errors from past issues. Spend a few hours each week reading these journals and you will be amazed how many hypothesis and conclusions are stated as fact.
And I am not defending the conceit of science.
For those who are curious and have nothing better to do, here is some interesting reading. The most useful thing I learned in these readings (and related links) is that scientist themselves often disagree on what the definition of "science" is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_science
http://plato.stanford.edu/search/searcher.py?query=science
Thank you for the links. I will spend some time reading them. I've learned that you are well informed so if you offer something to read I've never found it a waste of time.
as someone's who is always "curious," thanks for those links RichardP - I'll definitely be reading them, even tho' I may have some things "better" that make demands on my time. . . who can resist a new piece of the puzzle!
CD,
First, I do hang around here often. I look at and read almost everything single article including yours.
I post infrequently mainly because my thoughts have already been expressed by another poster, or I have nothing to add either because the subject matter is beyond my expertise, or I am undecided about an issue and OPEN to further dialogue.
As far as personal attack...I will grant you that. You struck a nerve with me by presenting this subject matter as 'debatable.' And then present scientists as ignorant of many things.
There is a process called, 'the scientific method,' that is most responsible for our species advancing futher in the last 100 years, than all the 40,000 before. By implying that scientist are simply prejudicial against astrology because 'there are forces in nature that can't be understood?' smacks of ignorance in and of itself.
Science has looked over astrology ad nauseum and it has been found wanting according to the scientific principles established by millions of scientists worldwide.
Just because an idea has lasting power, doesn't make it fact or have some relevance. Your argument that looking back 100 years ago we see a lot of incorrect points of view in science sounds relevant, but it is not. In fact, it makes my point.
Those ideas were the thoughts of the day until science disproved many of them. For instance, I can't truly disprove witchcraft, but I'm sure if somone cast a spell on me, I might find it amusing, but wouldn't consider it rational.
I consider myself extremely open minded.
Your point of view seems to advance the case that anything is possible. To me that smacks of unwarranted optimism and in this day and age, such thoughts can lead to ruin. Science is skepticism unbound. Astrological magic is narrow-minded, 'faith.'
Yeah me too. The Bilderberg stuff is interesting if you accept that he really has any inside sources to such things.
But then he goes into astrology, and his interpretation of Eyes Wide Shut was the kicker. Guy obviously spends too much time in his own head.
EWS? No way, chock full of symbolism. Here's an easy one: Code word given to Cruise for orgy party: "fidelio"; faithful. The movie in its most simplitic form is about infidelity. But the trip is much darker if you peel some layers. Multiple visual and verbal cues to rainbows is another. Dream states and "awareness". If it sounds "out there" you should watch again and ask yourself why its in the movie.
Spooky, yes, but the MK Ultra programs are real and are used to control to this day. Gitmo and other prisons are modern day science experiments on human beings. Human beings that have died. Freaky, sick, twisted, and real.
I generally skipped the planetary explanation as well, but Kubrik had a Luciferian message to share about what rich fucks do in their freetime: it's not all tennis and yachts.
there've been whisperings within the inner circle of hollywood about Kubrick and his supposed 'connections' for decades. whether you wish to believe them or not is your choice, but to think it as only the product of one man's imagination is choosing to remain ignorant of the possibilities of what his films were attempting to say & how they were attempting to say them.
one thing about Kubrick for sure, nothing he did was unintentional or careless. quite the opposite in fact.
The simplest answer is that Kubrick took an awful lot of drugs.
xcept that Stanley never dealt in simple
OT, but has to do with symbolism: Peckinpah and "Straw Dogs" - an exploration of the territorial instinct in man and its connection to violence. Couldn't remember if Kubric had directed it so looked it up on Wikipedia. They are remaking the movie, scheduled for release on February 25, 2011. "The film began shooting on August 16, 2009 in Shreveport and Vivian Louisiana.
Given that the movie explores the territorial instinct in man and its connection to violence, I wonder if BPs instinct for territoriality and disregard for the territory of others has interferred with the shooting schedule.
Yes. Reminds me a bit of Alex Jones. Lots of good info intermingled with craziness and giant leaps in reasoning with no sound inductive or deductive logic behind those leaps.
On one hand there is great info in this report. On the other, there is a bunch of voodoo and emotive hyperbole.
One must always filter their data, based on the source, their agenda, and their competency.
"Yes. Reminds me a bit of Alex Jones. Lots of good info intermingled with craziness and giant leaps in reasoning with no sound inductive or deductive logic behind those leaps."
Which is exactly why 100% of the material on Alex Jones is unreliable bullshit. You can't be reliable and logical only part of the time. You either have a reputation for being straight or you do not.
Look up the owners of Genesis Communications...
Huh. Thanks for sharing ZH.
I love conspiracies...
I'll go with Crawford.
Resolution adopted on June 9 by the UN Security Council authorizes the inspection of Iranian ships.
Wow, this guy is nuts. How can anyone reasonable believe in "world government" theory. Just amazing.
There is at least as much, but probably more government in the world than ever before.
Arch Crawford is a charlatan and only talks nonsense. In the last 3-4 years Art Cashin has written in his daily reports about countless warnings from Crawford that a major catastrophe/market crash/cataclysmic event was about to happen within 2-3 weeks. Guess what, nothing of consequence ever happened, not once.
So do you actually read Crawford or do you just read Cashin's interpretation of Crawford? Because if you're going to bash someone's opinion, it might make sense to first read it in context.
You know, research and original source inspection. That kind of stuff.
Ding, Ding Ding...
I haven't read Crawford 's "original" ramblings because I'm not stupid or crazy enough to waste my time with lunatics with zero credibility.
The brain releases an incredible load of Endorphins into the bloodstream every time we read, speak and write something that reinforces our beliefs or point of view, thus encouraging us to keep our minds on the straight and narrow. You must be spectacularly, and probably illegally, "naturally" high right now.
Don't bogart that Endorphin dude.
Whatever, dude.
This asshat troll is not worth the time, CD.
So now I'm a troll because my opinion differs from yours?!?
well, you may be a troll if you come onto a thread to diss someone's writings, then say you wouldn't read them first-hand, and form your own opinion based on what you've read. . . just saying.
"I'm not stupid or crazy enough to waste my time with lunatics with zero credibility."
Are you quite sure about that?
There is absolutely no reason to think that the planets have anything to do with stock prices, as any Gemini with a Pisces moon and Sagitarius rising will tell you.
Meanwhile, is Arch Crawford really any crazier than the folks who brought us QE to infinity?
"Meanwhile, is Arch Crawford really any crazier than the folks who brought us QE to infinity?"
Exactly. The problem with Crawford is he isn't consensus opinion, thus he must be rejected. The first thing consensus reality does is reject everything that isn't part of the consensus. This is the insanity, that people can mumble that maybe QE and bank bailouts didn't work out quite as well as they should have but there's a reasonable explanation for all of this failure.
Never do they really truly consider that they could be fundamentally wrong. The system can not reject itself. It just can't do it. To even consider it would be suicide because to reject that which is the basis for its existence. So it will always resort to any device it can muster to reject contrary information, stating with the messenger. The system will tolerate outside-the-box thinking as long as it stays within the bigger box. I often view the economic system and it's supporting cast a cult.
Insanity is always pure. It can never be contradicted or refuted because it isn't based upon much more that the basic fact that the majority endorses it. Once an idea becomes widely backed, regardless of the validity of the idea, it will concoct reasons to be valid. If those reasons are "reasonable" and widely held, it becomes fact because it is widely held. The ultimate circle jerk.
+ lots of truth to you!
Always glad to read your stuff, esp. your 5 part discussing how we can get out of our insanity.
I can only go slowly as it is hard, and I am ageing...
Could we include Nostradamus predictions as being widely held "fact" and subconscious collaboration creating the outcome?
"The" only outcome or one potential outcome?
The subconscious mind doesn't see or percieve things are true or false, as correct or incorrect, as real or unreal but simply that everything "is".
So regardless of the validity of Nostradamus predictions or not, if we all believed them to be "real" we would create our reality around what we believe to be real. I talk about this in chapter 3 and 4 of my series.
This concept is difficult for many to grasp because we are conditioned to believe that we have little influence over our lives and that of our culture, that when I say create reality, I'm talking about us changing our behaviour to reflect our beliefs, thus "creating" what we believe. I also go deeper than this but not in this series.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33507389/Welcome-to-the-Insane-Asylum-Our-Collective-Psychosis
Sounds to me like you are advocating unorthodoxy and contrarianism as a goal unto themselves. Reminds me of the angry rebel teens who, in a desperate plea to show society how different they are become tattooed and pierced automatons who wouldnt know a subversive thought if it bit them on their suburbanite corn fed asses. Just because something is or is not generally accepted has no bearing on the inherent and empirical truth of that thing. You can continue to believe in astrology and unicorn/rainbow power all you want but you do narrow your audience and diminish your credibility, which is fine. Intellect manifests itself in different ways, and your pompous rants about the general lack of intelligence in the mainstream population is unfortunate. Are you superior???
I didn't say I did or didn't believe anything, including astrology. You're saying I do. Put all the words in my mouth you like because that destroys your credibility. I said don't dismiss anything as absolutely impossible.
I'm advocating keeping a true open mind. I'm advocating we stop rejecting something as unworkable or impossible simply because it doesn't fit our world view of how things should or could or do or don't work.
We are conditioned to stay within very narrow mental confines, to the detriment of us all. I'm not advocating any particular type or method of thinking. I'm advocating all types of thinking. That doesn't mean I can't make decisions or plan, only that when I begin to think I've got it figured out, that's when the biggest mistakes are made.
And please point to one pompous rant I've made about the general lack of intelligence in the mainstream population.
I agree with you and the author about stock prices, however who knows, maybe the planetary alignment will pull heavy metal "to the moon" as any double Leo would say. lol
Planets have played a major role in the human view of the universe and our history and even influenced the development of our consciousness (as differentiated from animal awareness as Jaynes pointed out). Too much to go into here but as an example El a god of a Semite tribe became the god the father of the Christians but in other lands he was known as Shamash, Ra, Brahma which were all names of the planet Saturn. Interesting that the sabbath was named for Saturn and still is Saturday. The principle Roman holiday was the saturnalia and King David named both of his sons after that planet and of course Jerusalem means the city of saturn. The 'holy' city still makes the news non e vero ?. Maybe a bit more study on the influence of planets is in order. Probably not a good idea to confer with the specialists here i.e. priests, rabbis, imams etc. A 'far out' internet site could provide an intro www.saturniancosmology.org - Dominus (Saturn) Vobiscum Bitchez !
ahh, but there's little harm in testing your theories on the subject, as a Gemini with Sagittarius rising, but a Leo moon might proffer. . . *grins*
Uranium, bitches.
this article was outstanding....finally the asshole murderer david rockefeller is exposed for the totalitarian asswipe that he is...i'd use his dead body to plug the oil gusher in the gulf of mexico....
and bilderburger puppet and indonesian citizen obama isn't going to help anyone except out of their money....hope you don't get raped while he is robbing you....
and the cult hero paul volcker finds gold to be the enemy of his fascist state....i hope someone lynches that fuckhole...
I'd love to see the directors cut of EWS. I got the gist of the movie which is to say that the powerful obey different rules than the rest of us, I am not sure if it is necessary to pin it on any particular group. Just look what an (American) football player can get away with. Roethlisberger's only crime was (almost) getting caught.
Well, I decided that there was at least enough "smoke" to burn some money.
Instead of heading to the local craps table this afternoon, I just purchased 5 Sept $90 crude calls. The risk/reward is a lot higher and my money will last until August 18.
+ 1
The concept of the US, EU, and Asia as regional governments has long been viewed as the most stable form of government for the current state of civilization.
A one world government is dynamically unstable like a ringworld.
Bilderberger's give a green light to an attack on Iran I guess it's a go.
$185 oil should make for a cold winter (either way you look at it)
Makes me think of the Queen song: "I want to ride my bicycle! I want to ride my biiiiike!" - ha! that would be ironic, actually - China, which when I was growing up, was the place where you'd see video from of hundreds of thousands of bicycles everywhere, is the largest purchaser of automobiles... while we end up selling kidneys for used 10-speeds....
I have some studded tires for my cross bike. They weigh a ton but I think I will be using them extensively this winter.
Now I just have to convert my gas fore place back to wood burning................
uh, guys?
you do know the song isn't actually about those 2-wheelers you pedal down the street...
right?
No, they don't, much like an important manager where I work totally fucked up the Spinal Tap "this one goes to 11" reference. He actually thought there was an amp that is truly louder just because the dial has 1-11 printed on it.
Persians learned chess from the Indians a few millennia ago.
They were Alexander's hardest conquest - he failed to
conquer India. Afghanistan/Pakistan the graveyard of
empires as Stan McChrystal learned late.
Today Iran a client state of China and Russia, who armed
them with the latest EMP hardened Sukoil jets that outperform the F-22 Raptor,
Loral guidance missiles (thank Clinton and dead Brown)
that can sink our aircraft carrier combat groups, while they
arm and train terrorist proxies like (AQ), Hamas, Hezbollah, Taliban,
with mutual defense Shanghai Cooperative agreement for Iranian oil
and gas.
If Israel could take out Iran like Syrian and Iraqi
reactors, they would have done so. Their prize Merkava Mk 1 tanks did
not do so well against Hezbollah Iranian armour piercing RPGs in Lebanon,
10% destroyed, and they withdrew with high casualties, resorting to
black op false flag murder in Dubai that enraged the Brits
and inflamed the Arabs.
They had to use illegal chemical warfare in Gaza and
still did not win. In fact, Israel's last two military misadventures
were routs that led to the Chief of Staff, Defense Minister and
Prime Minister changes.
Attacking the Iranian Turkish supported peace ship and
shooting an American five times in the head did not help
their cause or the balance of diplomatic power as Hillarious
well knows, she who is tired of the trying to talk
Iran out of nukes while Israel and Pakistan have them
(hush hush) with no outrage from Foggy Bottom.
Pakistan nukes came close to falling into Taliban hands
if it weren't for denied US special ops and drones there.
The middle east well tired of American occupation and
Brzshinsky's Grand Chessboard strategy encircling Iran.
Attacking Iran could result in nuclear Armageddon.
0 and Joint Chiefs of Staff of course know all this, why we have only seen rumours
of war with Iran for the last decade, and Hussein Obama bowed to
the Chinese and Saudi Crown Prince...
It seems we are evenly split on the credibility and viability of the information put forth in this report. I read it in full and here's what I have to say.
I could care less about planetary alignments, Eyes Wide Shut, David Rockefeller, or Obama the puppet. All i know is...something HUGE is on the horizon I can feel it. Wishing it to happen sooner has proved futile. Whatever is gonna happen that is going to unravel this experiment we call civilization will happen on its own timetable.
We as intelligent humans, who actually are aware of what is going on around us, as opposed to what the populace is force fed have a certain responsibility to digest this information and prepare ourselves and our loved ones for the worst case scenario.
Until then...we watch and wait and hopefully will have the last laugh.
a comment chock full of wisdom...good soap shane
Of course, because the goal is not compliance but rather conquest.
Maybe Marla can write a cute article about that, since the view from Had Nes has given her so much prescient insight into existential threats in the Middle East.
I am Chumbawamba.
Iran claims they're going to send ships to Gaza with food supplies.
UN Resolution 1929 says they need to be inspected.
As long as Iran doesn't try to violate the resolution or ship any weapons there will be no problem...
Here is link from Business Insider on CVN locations...
Unsure of accuracy.
http://www.businessinsider.com/iran-war-buildup-us-israel-2010-6
i just purchased a little bit of lynas , and if you like, fidelity can settle that in aussies, which will give you a little more boost. also, the sto naked put sale is a decent deal even if there is no attack/oil spike.
as to the arch crawford thesis, those of you not aware of the ALTA reports at HALPASTHUMAN.com (future big picture prognostications based on linguistic trends on the internet), they are calling for events similar to crawford's astrology. called the oct 14 2008 dump within a day, and have for several years now been expecting a "global coastal event" - i'm giving them a direct hit on that one.
Linguistic trends are bullshit. Always have been, always will be. The Internet is not, I repeat, NOT an instrument for predicting the future. What that website is peddling is another form of astrology and I call total bullshit on anyone who has a standing prediction out for TWO FUCKING YEARS for a "global coastal event". Let me get this straight, you think that they predicted the gulf oil spill just because their prediction was for "something to happen on a coast somewhere in the world" with no time frame other than, "sometime in the future?"
You are batshit insane. Tell me, could I interest you in buying this bridge I have for sale which connects Brooklyn to Manhattan? I can't seem to get rid of it, even though it is really important to commerce.
no, dipshit, something happening someplace in the world sometime in the future, on some coast, is not the same as a "global coastal event." wait and see if this transpires to become globally coastal if and when the oil disperses up the atlantic coast and perhaps as far away as european coasts, then call me batshit insane, if you must. i take everything with a grain of salt, though you apparently believe in absolutes and have no room for non-proved possibilities. when the coastal regions of our country are evacuated due to levels of benzene, hydrogen sulfide, toluene, etc., that are intolerable for human habitation, come back to this space and lick my open-minded balls.
Did Turkey close its airspace to Israel?
the demand for rare earths (which go into high end devices like iphones), will probably collapse with the economy, and technology will revert to the last reliable version of the same thing (land lines instead of cell phones). Concerning Iran, the global economy weak, and oil demand low, the risk of spot shortages is offset somewhat. the timing of the Iran event may therefore be pushed up to take advantage of the situation, also the US and global deficit hawks will put pressure on military spending. Rather than service out those extra soldiers, they could throw them into the cauldron for one last bloody confrontation.
one has to wonder if the whole McChrystal dustup was a front to put Petraeus in charge,ahead of the pincer movement against Iran (troops from both sides of Iran's borders can invade that country).
Dropping a few thousand conventional bombs on Iran is by definition a bombing not an invasion. The present US military is incapable of a deep thrust into Iran unless it suddenly grew in size. There would also need to be a a lot of equipment and supplies moved near the point of entry.
A quick thrust into the south eastern oil fields of Iran could be accomplished but it would not threaten the Iranian leadership. It would also leave the supply lines and flanks of the American advance exposed. Over 1 million Iranians live inside Iraq. The Iraqi Shia in Basra and the Iranians would have a field day attacking the resupply trucks and tankers. The huge oil terminals of the Saudis and Kuwaitis would be fair game for an Iranian missile attack. $200 oil would bring the world down on the heads of the US and Israelis.
there's no military force better than ours, against organized forces on an open battlefield. a few tactical nukes, knock out the power grid, and the whole thing would be over in a few days. the real problem is occupying the running the country. I suggest they learned something from this, and withdraw from the battlefield once the goal of regime change is accomplished. certainly it would throw Iran into chaosic nightmare, but the MSM wouldn't be there to report, the cellphone towers would be off. In a few weeks they would probably hve a provisional government.
not saying this is what they should do, but they learned something in Iraq probably, and Iran has none of the sectarian problems.
The Iraq war success was made possible by 3/4 of the Iraqi army being made up of Shia and Kurds who wanted Saddam out. You think the Iranian army is going to stay home?
in word, yes. we will destroy the vital infrastructure, and the command and control in a few days. the rival factions are not yet, or perhaps poorly formed. and despite their advanced soviet made weaponry, the Russians will probably share the codes to their ECM. Phase one would probably be the destruction of anti-aircraft positions, especially those near the Gulf. That would be the prudent way to proceed. Take some time, and build a UN consensus. Now that China and Russia have backed out, they could just go all in.
A scenario:
1) Israel waits for some other big news (Gulf hurricane for example)
2) They bomb and launch their sub missiles, the targets I would go for would be the Ayatollahs in Qom (and shut The Hole where their 12th Imam is supposed to come out), their refinery in Esfahan (produces 50% of Iran's gasoline), bomb any rail bridges near their northen frontiers (so no gasoline comes via rail) and of course the nuclear targets. After taking out the anti-aircraft sites.
3) Iran gets to walk everywhere instead of ride.
4) No need for ground war (US invasion of Iran). If Iran strikes out at us or the Gulf Arab states, well just turn up the temperarture a bit more on the Maroon Ahmadinnerjackets some more.
and this is not to advocate the position, but it's too f**king easy, easy to make it look a lot harder than it is, easy to keep expectations low, and deliver at least a crushing blow to the regime, and easy to piggyback on the preemptive war, 1% solution, of the NeoCons and Dick Cheney. easier than Iraq, (after all we own the country next door now) far too easy. and there are of course a lot of young fighting men and women ready to put their gamer console, their unemployment check, and join the fight. In the final outcome if you lose the vote of the 5% of the population you conscript, but you gain 10% on the rest you can even get reelected.
If we own Iraq, why did they give their best oil concession to BP and the Chinese?
It it were so easy, we would have bombed Iran in 1979.
and who has the troops on the ground, and the bases, and control of the country the infrastructure and the political regime. just follow the power
The Iranians are not fools. They are not going to fight us conventionally. They know they will need to ride out any attack. The US is going to rue the day it turned on the majority Pashtun in Afghanistan and installed a Persian controlled government in Iraq. These decisions will return to haunt the Neocons.
The non-Persian Shia in SE Iraq could be promised their own semi-autonomous state-within-a-state as part of Iraq (similar to the Kurdish situation) if they assist instead of fight. You have to realize that the Iranian oilfields are run mostly by non-Persian Shia who are also looked down upon somewhat in Iran by the Persian majority. One Pentagon recommendation early in the Iraq invasion, recommended carving Iraq into 3 states - Kurdish (north), Sunni (west), Shia (east). The Pentagon argued, probably correctly, that freeing the Kurds and the non-Persian Shia in SE Iraq would place double pressure on Iran without involving a single US soldier. All we would have to do is sell arms to the new Shia state and the new Kurdish state. The Iraqi Kurds have long made noises about freeing their Kurdish brethren from Iranian rule in the northwestern parts of Iran and likewise there is potential for another ethnic state forming around the non-Persian Shia in SE Iraq and western Iran, which coincidentally, is where the vast majority of Iran's oil fields are.
Such a move would be harder today as the push is on for a merged Iraqi single state yet some concessions could be made to entice the non-Persian Shia into fighting Iran.
Now I am not suggesting that such a strategy would work but that's the logic that I've heard presented by friends still on active duty about one way to attack the "Iranian problem" without directly involving US troops.
The Iranian Arabs living in the south east are a small minority. If they think the US can keep them safe from future reprisal they are fools. They already got spanked and a few leaders hung. The Arabs living in Iran are no more united than the Kurds in Iraq. These guys need to look what happened to collaborators when the US booked it out of Vietnam. Payback is going to be a bitch. As usual, thousands will end up living in the US. Detroit baby. It will rise again.
Seems HW encouraged the Kurds to revolt at
the end of the Persian Gulf War and his former business
partner mowed them down with no support from US...
It was even better than that. A few of the Kurdish clans aligned themselves with Saddam in 1996 and joined the Iraqi army in the rout. Seems the bigger Kurdish clan led by Talibani was aligned with Iran and had attacked both the rival Kurds and the Iraqis.
These clans have been left out in the cold by the US and the stooge Talibani who the US installed as President of Iraq. Payback is going to be a bitch.
The Sunni, Turkmen and multiple Kurdish clans are waiting to exact revenge on Talibani and his clan. This is the real reason Talibani wants US troops to move to northern Iraq. And Talibani still is being provided arms and money by the Iranians. Going to be an interesting decade coming up.
The new way to fight a war. The Neocons and Ziofascists are getting their clock cleaned by countries smart enough to know colonialism is dead. The IMF and the world bank are being made redundant by the Chinese and other developing sountries. The IMF will be stuck bailing out the failed European economies. So sorry these broke countries have no resources to pay back the loans. I guess white slavery will need to make a comepback. Polish Ho's anyone?
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1999275,00.html
Internet Tough Guy -
I'm not that smart so could you explain to me why they would want to knock the price of gold and oil down if we are going to war? How much is "good and hard"?
I'm short Iran
I'm double short the profunds index. Try that.
Arch Crawford is a charlatan and only talks nonsense. In the last 3-4 years Art Cashin has written in his daily reports about countless warnings from Crawford that a major catastrophe/market crash/cataclysmic event was about to happen within 2-3 weeks. Guess what, nothing of consequence ever happened, not once. snip
Speaking of nonsense LDT, know AC and you obviously don't.
According to you Art Cashin @ UBS did him a disservice.
Actually, the only time I saw Art allude to AC was April 26 top, duh.
AC supported himself many decades trading gold.
He was Bob Farrell's primary assistant at Merrill.
Before that he worked the Phoenix Program.
His clients from all over the world pay him tens
of thousands to keep them on the right side of the market.
Look it up before you post trash talk...
MABUS will soon die and TSWHTF.
TRR Brilliant Report by someone close to Power Elite striving to understand them.
We can just follow their giant footsteps in the markets...
Incidental now, but the Trilateral commission (tripartition commission) was incorporated the same day we choppered out the last remenants of our army in Viet Nam. Japan, Europe and the U.S. The partition of S.E. Asia. Milestones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIO-4v8qpYc&feature=player_embedded
Declaration of war on Iran days away. Only 11 had the balls to stand up against the sanctions.