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Today's Flash Crash: From $6.90 To $0.09 In Two Seconds
Thanks to Nanex we once again get a reminder that not only is the economy broken, something which becomes painfully clear each and every time the monetary and fiscal stimulus are about to get yanked, like right now, but that our stock markets continue to be the butt of all algorithmic jokes. Today's punchline: Bitauto Holdings, which traded from $6.90 to $0.09 in two seconds. And lest one thinks this was a fat finger, the total number of trades canceled subsequently by the NYSE and Nasdaq was 22,900 shares. SkyNet strikes again.
View 1 - Trade and Quote Prices:
View 2 - Trade and Quote Prices and Sizes:
And the tens of thousands of cancellations:
;ts|t|Symbol|Listed Exg|Reporting Exg|Date|Seq #|Exg Time|Price|Size|TCondition|
09:33:06|eBITA|NYSE|BATS|Cancel;Busted;|4280|1|0.12000|100|
09:33:06|eBITA|NYSE|BATS|Cancel;Busted;|4281|1|0.12000|900|
09:33:06|eBITA|NYSE|BATS|Cancel;Busted;|4253|1|0.10000|200|
09:33:06|eBITA|NYSE|BATS|Cancel;Busted;|4263|1|0.10000|100|
09:33:06|eBITA|NYSE|BATS|Cancel;Busted;|4231|1|0.09000|100|
09:37:26|eBITA|NYSE|EDGX|Cancel;Busted;|4233|1|0.09000|100|
09:37:26|eBITA|NYSE|EDGX|Cancel;Busted;|4254|1|0.10000|200|
09:37:26|eBITA|NYSE|EDGX|Cancel;Busted;|4265|1|0.10000|100|
09:37:26|eBITA|NYSE|EDGX|Cancel;Busted;|4283|1|0.12000|900|
09:37:26|eBITA|NYSE|EDGX|Cancel;Busted;|4282|1|0.12000|100|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4216|1|6.12000|200|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4217|1|6.03000|300|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4218|1|5.86000|700|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4219|1|5.74000|900|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4220|1|5.71000|1000|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4221|1|5.71000|200|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4222|1|5.62000|800|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4224|1|5.62000|600|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4225|1|5.17000|1900|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4226|1|5.17000|100|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4227|1|5.17000|100|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4229|1|0.09000|800|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4230|1|0.09000|200|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4234|1|0.09000|800|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4235|1|0.09000|200|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4237|1|0.09000|200|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4238|1|0.09000|100|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4239|1|0.09000|600|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4240|1|0.10000|800|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4241|1|0.10000|200|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4243|1|0.10000|400|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4245|1|0.09000|800|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4246|1|0.09000|200|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4247|1|0.09000|400|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4249|1|0.09000|800|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4250|1|0.09000|200|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4251|1|0.09000|400|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4256|1|0.11000|800|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4257|1|0.11000|200|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4258|1|0.11000|400|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4260|1|0.12000|800|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4261|1|0.12000|200|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4262|1|0.12000|400|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4267|1|0.12000|800|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4268|1|0.12000|200|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4269|1|0.12000|400|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4273|1|0.09000|800|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4274|1|0.09000|200|
09:47:40|eBITA|NYSE|NQEX|Cancel;Busted;|4277|1|0.12000|1000|
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They would not continue to do it if they had to stand
why play the game if there is a chance you might lose?
Game? It is not a game... Banksters win rate = 100% Punters win rate = 0%
Nero used to act very un-emperor-like by competing in some of the games. Amazingly, he never lost.
Has everyone here seen the Backlight documentary on quants? A must see:
http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2010/10/wall-street-is-googled.html
No kidding.
Turk and Boehringer talk AU
When does this happen to the ES and the Russell 2000? I want to put in my bids right away. Maybe I can escape being busted.
Imagine a world without the festering corrupt dung that is the U.S. 'markets' opening daily... or, better still, without the U.S. existing at all. Bliss.
In god we trust.
What have you ever contributed to the world... aside from your perpetual cynicism?
You are real brave making such bold comments from behind a keyboard.
Pot meet kettle, please notice you both have the same coloration.
<<< Pot meet kettle >>>
I didn't call for the end of a nation. The cynic did.
<<< the same coloration >>>
Don't judge a person by their avatar.
Hypocrisy is always good for a laugh.
HAHAHAHAH.
Notice he didn't call for the end of a nation, he just speculated that it would be nice to not have the most manipulative nation on the planet around.
<<< Hypocrisy is always good for a laugh. >>>
Glad you are keeping yourself amused, but I am not gulty of hypocrisy here, comrade.
<<< Notice he didn't call for the end of a nation, he just speculated that it would be nice... >>>
It would be nice if you had something intelligent to say.
Yawn!
on Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:48
#1335349
Why are so many ZH readers referencing commentary from CNBC? Who cares what is said on that sorry excuse for a financial news program? Here is some free advice:
Turn that excrement off!
by John Law Lives
on Wed, 06/01/2011 - 14:03
#1329599
This fool says that we are on the verge of a "great, great depression" but that investors shouldn't sell stocks...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/43236764
Brilliant advice...
I should really follow your advice, you add so much consistency to topics yourself. Thanks for the tip.
1. CNBC does a poor job reporting economic news (imo). I advised ZH followers not to waste their time watching it.
2. The article I referenced was something I came across on the Yahoo! Finance home page. I also stated in the same thread that I was being sarcastic, as I believe the article I referenced was offering people some bad advice. You conveniently omitted the reference:
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by John Law Lives
on Wed, 06/01/2011 - 15:11
#1329823
I was being sarcastic re. his brilliant advice. Unless there is QE3, I think the stock market will fester.
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fuu, you've got nothing. Stay in the minor leagues where you belong. You are lulling me to sleep. Yawn. Zzzzzzzzzzz...
Well the last POMO is next Thursday June 9th. That is when the real fun begins!
Actually it is the last publicly scheduled POMO. They usually come out with the next list (in this case for the remaining 3 weeks) a day or so before the end of the last list. And even when QE 2.0 ends on June 30, the Fed will still maintain it's balance sheet meaning they will continue to use interest and principal payments received to purchase more Treasuries.
Not saying it is 'enough', just sayin'.
Why has the dollar tanked? Just people realizing it's a shit currency? The Greek news hasn't been really great, nothing has changed since this morning.
Because the stock market's been rising...ermm, is that right?
DavidC
Oooo, negative divergence...
Duplicate post...my bad
Dear NYSE, CFTC, SEC, NASDAQ, et. al
At last check, in order for a trade to occur there has to be a buyer and seller that come to an agreement, much like a contractual agreement. So these trades still stand.
Signed
All Rational People
That statement is false: There were no bidders, hence the fall to level where there were bbidders, or the stub bid, in this case.
*dup*
Why bother to put in a bid? You either pay too much or the trade gets busted.
Just another example in a long string of fine examples of how trading of securities for short term profit assists in price discovery.
That is exactly what I believe--the "regular" market is like the Matrix and every once in awhlie, due to the nature of computers, a tiny glimpse of our true reality seeps through. Skynet, indeed!
Would appreciate a post on Hatzius's reaction to the employment report today.
Probably just like all the rest of them, befuddled, back-peddling spin.
You know, they fine dumbasses who accidently call 911. You'd think they'd have something similar for shutting down a stock, or an exchange.
But nope, Nester gets a free pass because he only follows the three laws.
1. Parse the Chairsatan/News
2. Parse momentum
3. BUY BUY BUY or SELL SELL SELL
It can't hurt you, see, it's got the protection of the three laws. It can never disobey them.
>You know, they fine dumbasses who accidently call 911. You'd think they'd have something similar for shutting down a stock, or an exchange.
There is no need to have an explicit fine.
For the crime of valuing stocks incorrectly, the market already has a punishment: financial losses. Just leave the exchange open and let the chips fall where they may. Soon enough these people and their crazy algorithms will be put in a position where they can't hurt anyone with their bad decisions.
Let the algos fail? Are you crazy? If not for them, why there wouldn't even be a market.
/sarc
Why do the exchanges reverse trades that were done fair and square? Why do they suspend trading in certain stocks?
Is it some kind of government intervention that forces them to do it? Or are they doing it freely and competing with other exchanges on the market in order to please their big stock-trading customers? Or is it to please their listed companies?
If the exchanges are freely competing then you can try to choose an exchange that has fair rules and doesn't pull these shenanigans. Which exchanges stand above their peers as doing the least interfering with validly executed trades?
Stealth QE3 - already with us - if you cant be the demand - then create demand - Yellen?? - commodity and equity takedown coming to a movie near you soon. Deflation hits the new new thing.
And you want me to "invest for the long term". Sure, no problem. This market is not happy. Where is the head inmate when we need him.
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This is all they got left. Destroy the dollar and ramp up equities. The worse the company the better. Markets are dead, real economies are dead, only surreal bankster dominated parallel paper world is flourishing.
06-03 12:43: AUD/USD and NZD/USD move higher as the USD-Index weakens and risk-appetite gathers pace; AUD/USD prints session high at 1.0748One of these days some algos are going to go all stuxnet on them and they won't be able to patch it up with a quick wink and a nod.
The surprising thing is that it hasn't happened already. Which, even more surprisingly implies there are still some controls in place that actually work to contain the damage. Of course, they are designed to prevent yesterday's known problems, while every tomorrow brings new unknowns into the equation.
In a battle of complexity (high energy state) vs. entropy (lower energy state), entropy wins every time (on a long enough time line). And if you continually compress time with faster and faster computing resources, it can all go *poof* in an instant. In the coming future, two seconds will seem like infinity to these algos.
These flash crashes remind me of the scene from The Matrix, where Neo sees the cat twice – glitch in the system.
Huge red flag.
"Ginslinger"? Did you get banned as "Gunslinger"?
it's Hamy.
Robotrader did you own this? Wait what am I saying, of course you didnt, its crashed. You only own things that closed up.
Can someone explain the significance of the 22900 number? Do 23000 shares represent some significant threshold?
Apologies, I'm on the beach in Mexico enjoying the profits from my DIA and silver puts!
Every time my GPS voice says something like, “right turn in 24ft when I’m travelling at 35 mph; or when it routes me through some alley behind a biker bar and past the loading docks instead of taking a boulevard, just to shorten my travel distance by ¼ mile, or when some high frequency trading computer sells a $40 stock for two cents, I realize just how dumb smart technology really is.
Really?? Bitauto??
Call me when this hits a company anyone actually trades. This pos reverse takeover averages 50,000 a day on a big day. Every time I see this story it is about some obscure ticker I've never heard of. Yeah it's a problem but not a big one any more. The HFT's have slunk away having realised the pool aint big enough when all you're doing is stealing food from the other piranha's. I trade every day and I haven't seen anything that makes my life particularly unpredictable.
Either the market is so manipulated that other algorithms are messing up and doing weird things. Or people and organizations are doing this in order to try to make a fast profit.
I am setting orders on every no micro US listed stock at $0.10...
Fuck Skynet
http://nationaleconomist.blogspot.com/
and FUCK robots, John Connor shall prevail
Sue after the 10th cancel imho