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Tokyo Runs Out Of Bottled Water
While the broader population continues to read stories of a stoic Tokyo population, casually taking each day of deteriorating news from Fukushima in stride, the reality is far from what is being represented. The latest escalation: Tokyo is running out of bottle water, now that the government disclosed (with a two week delay), that drinking water is irradiated. From Reuters: "Many shops in Japan's capital ran out of bottled water on Thursday after a warning of radiation danger for babies from a damaged nuclear plant where engineers are battling the world's worst atomic crisis since Chernobyl." And if the government appears to be on the verge of losing control (and no city of 13 million can operate without water, no matter how bullish Douche Bank's chief strategist sounds on CNBC) after disclosing this one factoid, what happens when the true extent of the secondary effects from Fukushima are made public: "The government urged residents not to panic and hoard bottled water -- but many shops quickly sold out."If this is long term, I think we have a lot to worry about," said Riku Kato, father of a one-year-old baby." Perhaps it is time for Malcolm Gladwell to do a tipping point analysis of herding mentality, vis-a-vis a decision to participate in a mass urban exodus. Which brings up tonight's $64k question: is Snake Plissken too old for the "Escape from Tokyo" sequel.
From Reuters:
Nearly two weeks after the earthquake and tsunami that battered the Fukushima complex and devastated northeast Japan, Tokyo's 13 million people were told not to give infants tap water where contamination twice the safety level was detected.
Radiation levels above safety norms have also been found in milk and vegetables from the area around Fukushima, 250 km (150 miles) north of Tokyo.
The United States, Hong Kong and Australia have restricted food and milk imports from the zone, while Canada became the latest among numerous nations to tighten screening.
Radiation particles have been found as far away as Iceland, though Japan insists levels are still not dangerous to adults.
Jim Smith, of Britain's University of Portsmouth, said the finding of 210 becquerels of radioactive iodine -- more than twice the recommended limit -- at a Tokyo water purifier should not be cause for panic.
"The recommendation that infants are not given tap water is a sensible precaution. But it should be emphasized that the limit is set at a low level to ensure that consumption at that level is safe over a fairly long period of time," he said.
"This means that consumption of small amounts of tap water - a few liters, say - at twice the recommended limit would not present a significant health risk."
Yet some lobby groups are disputing this, suggesting that risks are being under-played.
Physicians for Social Responsibility, a U.S. anti-nuclear group, called for a stricter ban on sales of exposed food.
"There is no safe level of radionuclide exposure, whether from food, water or other sources. Period," said physician Jeff Patterson, a former president of the group.
Luckily, Tokyo is not a ghost city. Yet
Some locals and members of Tokyo's large expatriate population left the city right after the earthquake and tsunami.
The capital's streets remain unusually quiet and edgy.
"It's not just the radiation in water. I'm worried about aftershocks and it's possible that things could go bad at the nuclear plant," an office worker who only identified himself by his last name Yamaguchi said outside one shop that had run out of water bottles.
How long the tenuous status quo persists depends entirely on just how long the Japanese government belileves that a 10K Nikkei is more important than possible long-term (and lethal) radiation related aftereffects affecting its citizens.
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"is Snake Plissken too old for the "Escape from Tokyo" sequel?"
Fucking classic.
A Snake Plissken reference is what makes ZH so f-ckin great!
I heard Snake was dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed6Yr81jZ6g
NEWS ADVISORY: Radiation 10,000 times normal level in water where nuke plant workers irradiated
-Kyodo News
next Kyodo News ticker line :
N.Y. stocks advance on optimism about U.S. economyIt's okay. Just don't hoard the bottled water.
and just don't try to go to turks.bastards
http://www.suntci.com/index.php?p=story&id=1557
I'll sell you a 1 liter bottle of Vittel for 50 oz of SILVER! ;)
In EFNY Snake takes in an Ingram M10 with sound suppressor, a bad ass weapon, reliable and deadly. Better known as the MAC-10. Good choice Snake.
Mac-10 is a 9mm isn't it?
Seen the new smith and wesson 9mm machine pistol/gun?
The MAC-10 was made in 2 versions, 45ACP and 9mm.
All you need to know here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC-10
My brother owns one in .45 ACP, with original suppressor rebuilt to remove the wipes. These things don't just look cool; they're extremely controllable given the cyclic rate, with virtually no muzzle rise compared to an unsuppressed M10, M11, or Mini-UZI. The only drawback is that the 30-round magazines are empty in no time-- a speed loader tool is essential.
MAC-10 POS, get a real gun MP-5
Snake Plissken: I don't give a f$ck about your war... or your president. ...
I love that movie, perfect anti-hero
no, I'm not dead!
nope....he's hiding with tupac
this news should bring the DOW up some, no?
http://jack-plissken.blogspot.com/2010/08/life-and-times-of-snake-plissken-not.html
Still, the first place for most contaminated area in the Western Hemisphere goes to the United States of America:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,752944,00.html
America was proud of Hanford. As a way of thanking them for their daily sacrifice, the employees and contractors at Hanford got little lapel pins in the shape of a mushroom cloud. D'Antonia recounts how the mushroom cloud was also the mascot of Richland's high school football team, the Bombers, and how there were local businesses called Atomic Bowling, Atomic Foods and Atomic Lawn Care.
But, today, that pride has turned into horror. The farmers in the area and people in Richland and the two neighboring towns, Pasco and Kennewick -- known collectively as the Tri-Cities -- are among the most highly radiated humans on earth.
My uncle lived in Pasco in the 1960's. Died from cancer in the mid 1980's. Wife and kids don't seem to be affected tho.
Wiki's take on Hanford: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site
Access to Zerohedge is now being blocked from Germany. You can only access it via a Proxy.
Merkel is Blythe's godmother
Are you being sarcastic?
You're talking nonsense man...
Access to Zerohedge is NOT being blocked from Germany.
same problem in Holland. Got a message that the site is unavailable due to tchnical issues.
Must have been a technical glitch in Telekom's routers, or Schäuble installing another Bundestrojaner.
There's only one way to solve this: Increase the legal limit of radioiodine for infants.
Retroactively as well in case some already drank some.
The USA can now be the largest exporter of drinkable water. Oh wait it all polluted. At least it doesn't glow.
Yet another reason to bomb Libya. They've got an aquifer to die for.
You haven't been there, don't know anything about water quality from Libyan desert aquifer, right?
Bomb The F--king Desert!
Brazil my friend, Brazil! They have a sick amount of freshwater reserves. China has already started the play to import some of the thirstier crops from them. China is in all sorts of water problems. Biggest problem I think they have. US will have problems with the Midwest drying up. Was a good run, should be refilled in million years or so, so bounce back faster then some Japanese real estate.
That's why EVERYONE should have a 1-month supply of bottled water on hand. At 1 gallon per day per person, that's 120 gallons for a household of four.
That's 24 5-gallon carboys.
Just get a couple of 55 gallon drums.
You can't keep that sanitary for long enough. I prefer boxes full of individual serving-sized sealed plastic water packets. You have to exchange more FRNs for them, but I figure if I ever need them I won't give a shit about FRNs anymore.
If you can keep the water in the dark in a non-reactive container, it will be fine.
If the Japanese gov't asked people to store the tap water for a month, the 'hot' iodine would decay to 1/16 of original levels. Too bad they seem to have lost credibility with too many people.
How is storing water for the decay period going to help them when they need to drink now? They'll be dead in a week if they don't have anything to drink now.
Yeah try explaining to baby that it needs to wait a month for the nuclear iodine to decay to a safe level. lol
Store it in the dark. Rotate it. And for really big supplies, treat with plain household bleach.
Just google a few keywords. Not so difficult to get a handle on.
See but I'm a lazy prepper. Therefore, packets.
Yes, sodium hypochlorite (bleach) will kill any living organism given sufficient quantity. It won't help you with the radioisotope problem, though.
Just sayin'.
I personally have two 55 gallon drums for water storage. I use Purogene to keep the water safe for consumption for longer periods. But yes, you have to rotate it out periodically. However, you should do that with bottled water as well.
i would run out of water all the time. i would just fill up my two bath tubs with water, for days at a time. no shit it is a great storage for water.
for anyone who didnt read the story out of japan....they were limiting bottled water to (3) 8 oz. bottles of water a day for registered infants under one year old as they only had 240k bottles a day at this size
government that is...as the publicly available stuff is/was all sold out
the thing going unmentioned ,is that they need on the order of 100 million 12oz. bottles a day if they are going to have everyone drinking bottled water
in one month of tainted tap water you will have a toxic effect in an adult
thems the facts folks
Water is for infant formula. First two years usually.
Let them drink Perrier.
Better yet, sake!!!
touche my friend, touche.
p.s. Ideally the people would water (sake) board the executives of the plant at their leisure for weeks on end.
If tokyo ends up a ghost town - Yen will be worthless . Property inflation as japanese head to other areas where it is safe in the country will explode . This is going to get ugly
Those unused cities in china are looking mighty inviting right about now. The Trail of Tears 2.0 should be an interesting watch.
Bringing Chinese and Japanese together - now that sounds like a plan...for destruction.
Yeah. It's gonna take another generation or two to get over that whole invasion, Unit 731, Rape of Nanking, etc...thing.
Not likely that the Chinese will open their unused cities to the Japanese.
Remember the "rape of Nanking"? The Chinese still do !
Yep old Nan King lived over on Applewood, by the EZ Mart. She got raped real good, as I recall.
I refuse to leave my taped up house until they fix this!! Keep sending checks and slide em under the front door
How do you cash the checks?
direct deposit
Take a pic with iPhone/iPad using the JPMorgue app /barf
Let them drink Ipads.
Market got bored with all the bad news in Japan. Took to long to fix just ignore.
who cares.
Snake Plissken? I thought he was dead?
Brain: Swear to God Snake, I thought you were dead...
Snake Plissken: Yeah, you and everybody else!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082340/quotes
Radiation and plumbing just dont mix...........no more hunting glowing dolphins for Japan............although they will be easier to spot.............bwhahahhahhahhaha
Yes, Snake Plissken is too old...His daughter, on the other hand, is just perfectly lovely.
Ugh, that is terrible. Call be crazy, but GTFO! If I'm in a place and the water is irradiated, I'm leaving. But I'm just one guy and not Japanese.
He who panics first, panics best.
the last train out of town is never filled with happy people.
No, because that train will be carrying the sick and dying.
I've actually worked with radioactive material. I can tell you it's Always very messy. Even under ideal, controlled conditions in a laboratory, and under paranoid multi-tiered levels of monitoring and testing for contamination there's always a problem that needs to be cleaned up.
Don't worry, Grandpa Warren will supply Japan with Coke-Cola. What flavor do you want?
Fucking Nippon is going to be a complete no-go zone before
this clusterfuck is over...
AC
SAR 101
Weeks without food, days without water, minutes without air. Times how many millions of people? Whew baby.
I wonder how its working out for all those people in the 20km-30km zone that were advised not to evacuate but to stay indoors. Must be running low on supplies by now. Anyone with kids would have gone stir-crazy by now. Time for a visit to Grandma in Osaka.
!2 days and they have rad in water?
What if they never tested it before and say wow, this is shit?
Houston report rad in their water months ago. The story seems to have died, Written off as a nothing burger.
Go long cancer.
Bring back Snake
21st Century Intelligence Test.
Your government has just announced that the tap water in your local municipality (of 36 million) has been poisoned due to a radiation leak at a nearby nuclear power plant. This level is unsafe for infants, and possibly other living organisms which are made from infants. You should:
a) Go buy bottled water.
b) Wait for the Ministry of Thermal Redaction to raise the safe limit to levels in excess of the current taint.
c) LEAVE TOWN NOW BEFORE THE PANIC DRIVEN WAVE OF IRADIATED CANNIBALISM AND GENERAL MAYHEM BEGINS.
d) BTFD
e) Read Zero Hedge until your eyeballs bleed, then peek out the window to see if it's safe.
Best post of all time on ZH.
+250 Millisieverts
when are they gonna add a thumbs up button or something for posts like that?
+1
JQP, I agree. "+1" just doesn't communicate my approval as much as a thumbs up would.
C and D, of course... However the 600+ gallons of potable water we have stored on our premises would sure ease our minds and buy us some time.
Preparation now = Less stress later.
Bugging in rather than bugging out under conditions like this might be the Wrong Thing to do.
All it takes is a stiff wind and a late warning.
NASA has a water purification unit made from the precious that takes radiation from water. The preciouses utility be vast and has yet to come close to it's highest and best use.
The "precious" WTF is the precious!!!!!!!!!!!
Rings.
I wonder if a gift set of mildly radioactive sake from the Fukushima region packaged with serving vessels made of vaseline glass would command a premium on e-bay?
Snake Plissken , lol!
The estimated toll of dead or missing in Japan is ~27,000:
http://www.skynews.com.au/world/article.aspx?id=593083
It is beyond f'ing morbid that Keynesian a-holes would try to put a positive spin economic on this unfolding disaster.
Wait till they spin the economic advantages of having a generation of young people being harmed by radiation.
Can already hear Kudlow. "All this childhood leukemia will create a huge demand for doctors!"
What an opportunity. You know we should really try to have these natural/nuclear disasters more often, the economy needs saving!
Yup, plus drug companies, hospice care companies, etc.
Pure broken-windows-theory-bullshit.
The groupthink that is going on re. Keynesian economics & Central Planning reminds me of the climate when G. W. Bush and the neo-cons were banging the drums for war in Iraq back in 2002. The neo-cons were putting out every bit of spin they could to justify a war. I remember that a-hole, Don Rumsfeld, squawking about how the the oil revenues in Iraq could largely cover the cost of the war, and that the number of US troops required on the ground in Iraq did not need to be nearly as many as were ultimately deployed. Gee, how did that turn out? I also remember that people who spoke out against the idea of war in Iraq back then were shouted down.
This Keynesian BS is going to end in disaster. All the reasons for rioting in MENA (e.g. surging food prices and huge wealth inequality) still exist, and unlike Saudi Arabia with its billions of $$$ to give away in handouts, many of those nations are strapped. Surging food and energy prices are hurting far more people than they are helping. No way this ends well.
Anybody know if activated carbon filter's this crap?
No idea but Google says this:
James Currier, chief executive officer at Sionix Corp., talks about damage done by Japan's earthquake to the country's infrastructure and the company's water-treatment systems. He says Sionix Water Systems Can Filter Radiation.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhokhd_currier-says-sionix-water-systems-can-filter-radiation_news
Time is the only effective filter for radioactive material. Lead will shield you, but lead aprons aren't much fun to wear, but over time they could reduce the obesity problems of 1st world nations.
Activated charcoal is great for removing organics and aromatic solvents, but distillation would have a better chance of removing radioactive iodine, since presumably the iodine would have a different boiling temp. Still that means either the iodine evaporates into the air or remains in the boiling kettle as sediment.
Humans are mostly water no matter how much we pretend to be unique, top of the food chain masters of the universe, we are water bags with legs. Since we are mostly water, it makes a great deal of sense to try to drink very clean water. You are what you drink even more than you are what you eat.
Purity of essence, Mandrake.
University research departments are using neutron beams to take "xrays" through lead - because neutrons penetrate lead.
New Desalination Process Developed Using Carbon Nanotubes
A faster, better and cheaper desalination process enhanced by carbon nanotubes has been developed by NJIT Professor Somenath Mitra. The process creates a unique new architecture for the membrane distillation process by immobilizing carbon nanotubes in the membrane pores
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110314140632.htm
CVV, bitchez! :-)
This is disturbing on many levels. I don't care where you live, if you haven't prepped by now, you are a dumb ass.
Gods sake snake don't do it!
Stocks aren't powered by water, so who cares.....
BUY BUY BUY!
Water is the new oil...
Pfft, well you can't eat water.
You could if water was made from ipads!
Therefore water is in a bubble.
I wonder if you can see radioactive piss at night?
Keeps the toilet rim and surrounding floor cleaner...
AC
Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water.
I know only one dialogue from "Escape from New York":
A bum in rags in the enclosed prison camp in downtown N.Y.C. wearing the President's tracking device around his handwrist:
Snake: Are you the president ?
Bum, mumbling through his dirty beard:
When I put this thing on, I knew that I am the president !
I guess the next bullish indicator will be when the piles of houses and cars from the tsunami get hit by lightning and start burning.
Would distilling the water help?
Probably depends on the size and properties of the specific particles contaminating it. But I'm no chemist (I can mix a mean cocktail though).
Straight Kentucky bourbon for me.
Knob Creek makes for a great Sazerac
Distilled.
History is not without irony: Japan's third nuclear contamination was self-induced.
On the bright side, no need to worry about birth-control when you nads get rads
Not really helping Japan. Think they got the low # of kids thing down pat.
Ok Jim boy lets see you give your kids some of that water or maybe Kudlow he probaly has some grand spawn. Its easy to say that waters ok when your kids are not drinking it.
Berkeley MIT Cambridge Harwell ... Portsmouth?
So there is a recommended amount of radiation for your drinking water? Who knew?
Jim Smith, of Britain's University of Portsmouth, said the finding of 210 becquerels of radioactive iodine -- more than twice the recommended limit -- at a Tokyo water purifier should not be cause for panic.
as he takes a sip of Evian (live young) from a bottle............
Oh' the Irony !
I'm so sorry for the Japanese people.
Hopefully someone is sending a big ship full of bottled water over there.
Yes, one can't imagine, especially if one has children. It's bad enough when we have the odd power outage for half an hour, what with worrying about the cold and whether the local shops have the same outage. It is truly awful.
Maybe Kevin Costner can bring his machine and save the Japanese people.
Maybe the Japs can sell the "come watch our neutron beams"
similar to Alaska's northern lights ads for tourism...
AC
Fukushima fun park, radioactive water slide, heavy water hot tub, boronated mud bath. Complete tanning salon, skin tightening, rejuvenating vacation paradise and spa.
buzz,
The "skin tightening" one got me !
Sounds like a wonderful alternative to chemotherapy. An amusement park for terminal cancer patients.The marketing slogan could be something like:
"Come visit Fukushima Fun Park. If the cancer doesn't kill you, the radiation will."
is that you, cheeky?
As I stated a few days ago, when they govt. in Japan can't lie anymore and when they can't hide the damage and radiation anymore, their will be a massive exodus out of Tokyo if not western Japan. The Japanese biosphere is getting contaminated every hour and it's increasing exponentially. The soil, the plants crops and animals, the milk and the water (water from the tap in Tokyo is irradiated). Whats not being said is this radiation WON'T LEAVE or dissipate from these places. So for instance the water is irradiated in the pipes, that means the pipes are irradiated and also the aquafer or whatever water table they are getting the water is irradiated. What happens when Plutonium or uranium or cesium gets into the systems (which I'm willing to bet has already happened), How do you replace thousands of miles of piping or replace the water in your environment or knowing that large chunks of farming land to the north is becoming unusable.
They are in a world of hurt, and they may be stoic now but eventually they will lose it.
Video: Already greater surface contamination at 40 kilometers from Fukushima than 'hot spots' at Chernobyl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kgwd_9HyME
Fuckushima amusement park-that is hilarious.
No black or white smoke emitting from any of the fun towers today yet?
AC
If you're willing to pay about $2.60 for a 500 ml (16oz) bottle, Amazon Japan can still deliver it to people in Tokyo. It could, yesterday. I don't know today.
http://japantoday.com/category/national/view/cause-of-yellow-rain-found-...
Uh huh.
Pollen? What in winter, when all the fields on the east coast are ruined too. Pollen by backside. It's probably sulpher or summit nasty.
Strontium can have a yellowish appearance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strontium
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Nothing on the news today about this....Japan is so yesterday....they were so happy that BB did well....met estimates...sales only fell 5% per store....market goes up on this....only 380,000 new unemployed this week....several auto plants to shut down because of parts..irradiated parts now...from Japan....and gold and silver took a nose dive...LOL....I gotta drink..this is to unreal
Seriously, what is wrong with you people? I honestly can't believe some of the comments I'm reading. These people are running out of water and you're making jokes. I love this site and follow it religioulsy, rarely comment but so appreciate the knowledge that I get from it. C'mon guys/gals, this is really not the time for jokes. This is sad beyond belief. I can't believe the comments I'm reading.
I know what you mean and I think it's a reflection of the wiser who have seen every scenario possible for an extended mating of the swans. Yesterday, a "bubble headed bleach blonde" said that the Japanese govt. said all the readings were safe now." No one followed up on the story of the aging scientist who admitted complicity and the govt gave him another couple of Seiko's and told him not to worry. That amounted to a "Duke beats Joliet Junior College headline the first week of the season. We should insist that every town in the country build a statue to Walter Cronkite. Now the closing line is "And that's the way we told you it was"
It's known as "dark humor". It is a way for many humans to reconcile with extreme stress or emotionally upsetting information or activity.
I hope you never have to witness a group of emergency responders talking amongst themselves after a mass casualty incident. You would likely be very offended.
I work for a branch of the the division of emergency management. While I've not witnessed mas casualty (thank goodness), I have witnessed things that most folks would have nightmares about, myself included. I guess that's why it's even more upsetting to me that folks are laughing and making jokes about human beings having no water. I deal with emergency responders all day long in my line of work. I would reitterate, this is not the time for jokes. These people need water.
Feel free to send them some!
It's clearly a joke to many people. People like Karl Denninger's been poo-pooing the reports as scare-mongering, just when Japanese are slowly waking up to the fact that they've been lied to by the government.
http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=182886
I think I'll strike his site from my blog.
You're just now realizing KD is a complete dickhead?