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Toxicologists: Corexit “Ruptures Red Blood Cells, Causes Internal Bleeding”, "Allows Crude Oil To Penetrate “Into The Cells” and “Every Organ System"
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As I have previously noted,
Corexit is toxic, is less effective than other dispersants, and is
actually worsening the damage
caused by the oil spill.
Now, two toxicologists are saying that
Corexit is much more harmful to
human health and marine life than we've been told.
Specifically
Gulf toxicologist Dr. Susan Shaw - Founder and Director of the Marine
Environmental Research Institute - dove
into the oil spill to examine the chemicals present.
Dr.
Shaw told CNN:
If I can tell you what
happens — because I was in the oil
— to people…
Shrimpers throwing their nets into water… [then]
water from the nets splashed on his skin. …
[He experienced a]
headache that lasted 3 weeks… heart palpitations… muscle spasms… bleeding
from the rectum…
And that’s what that Corexit does, it ruptures
red blood cells, causes internal bleeding, and liver
and kidney damage. …
This stuff is so toxic
combined… not the oil or dispersants alone. …
Very,
very toxic and goes right through skin.
***
The
reason this is so toxic is because of these solvents [from dispersant] that penetrate
the skin of anything that’s going through the dispersed oil takes
the oil into the cells — takes the oil into the
organs… and this stuff is toxic to every organ system in the
body. …
Similarly,
marine biologist and toxicologist Dr. Chris Pincetich - who has an
extensive background in testing the affects of chemicals on fish - says
that Corexit disrupts cell membranes.
He also explains that EPA
toxicity testing for Corexit is woefully inadequate, since EPA testing
for mortality usually only requires a 96-hour
time frame. His doctoral research found that fish that were alive at 96
hours after exposure to pesticide were dead at two weeks, so the
chemicals were considered non-lethal
for the purposes of the test.
Drs.
Shaw and Pincetich are wildlife conservationists. But even industry
scientists working for Exxon
and the manufacturer
of Corexit itself admit that the stuff is toxic.
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still, looking for evidence, hard facts...drop your science on me as what you are slinging is counter intuitive...
Clinteastwood
Are you actually claiming that any other source of national Education other than the US is questionable?
i know where you could go to get your ass kicked.
Clinteastwood (why cant you just be your pathetic self and not drag Clint into this)
"The spill is an all natural phenomenon."
Let's get something straight here, this is no spill it is a Gusher. Spill meaning a fixed quantity has lost containment and is being cleaned up. VS An Oil undersea Unmitigated Gusher, which is an open ended Artesian flowing well with numerous open sea floor seepages.
As for the "Lighten up" comment I think you should come on down to south Louisiana where this hell is unfolding, and let you bob for some corexit apples and comment on the culinary experience.
Are you Human Clint?, do you have any common decency and respect for what has happened here? Sitting where you are must seem very safe right now....far away from this carnage.
Are you so sure you will not be affected? Perhaps your so inhumane you have lost the ability to care. I don't know you.... but hopefully if it was your home and place you love was being destroyed I would have some compassion and comfort for your situation.
Unless your doing this for money, meaning to post counter/psyOp data to keep the public firmly at the FIFA Cup.
You are becomming as big a blabbering idiot as Matt Simmons.
Hey dummies. You missed/ignored the main point; i.e., ask the people around Prince William Sound (Remember...duh....the Exxon Valdez spill?) about all the do-gooders who "cleaned up" the beaches. No never mind, I know you don't really wanna know.
Crustaceans (shrimp/lobster) EAT OIL.
I'll predict the Gulf fisheries will rebound as if they had been massively fertilized. OIL IS A NATURAL PRODUCT.
dummies
Clint, you've got a good point there, yes, oil is a fertilizer, but fertilizer is deadly...if too much is applied...natural seeps are a natural phenomenon, gushing bore holes are not.
So how is it working for BP?
hey mouth... shut the hell up.
In my opinion, we are confronted here with something of a situation. Otherwise, I would not have presumed to take up your time. Once again, it concerns the case of Jonathan E. We know we don't want anything extraordinary to happen to Jonathan. We've already agreeed on that. No accidents, nothing unnatural. The game was created to demonstrate the futility of individual effort. And the game must do its work. The Energy Corporation has done all it can, and if a champion defeats the meaning for which the game was designed, then he must lose. I hope you agree with my reasoning.
Why do you guys insist on using provocative pictures in your profiles. It just makes you look like a testosterone charged junior high kid. It takes away from your message IMO. Grow up...
What's provocative?? I see a candle stick....oh wait....Iget it.
Dogit... now my prior post regarding rollerball is so lame.
Nahh
I agree.
I changed too.
@Muir
This avatar is life-affirming and good. It lowers my blood pressure. You have done well, my friend. Please post more often. Every thread, please.
@ cursive - It's form over substance, hypocrite.
Cursive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puloVmhe_iU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Zh7NgWS0k
And then came the rains.
San Francisco Chronicle: Leaked Corexit Information
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/98/069/San_Francisco_Chronicle:_Leaked_Co...
www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ybenjamin/detail??blogid=150&entry_id=67412
Can anyone living in Alabama confirm heavy oil on the coast. A buddy drove from Fl to Galveston reported heavy oil.
If you knew ahead of time that this was going to happen, a fortune could be made in derivatives on business, commercial real estate, residential real estate, positions in the etf's short, and probably dozens of other ways. The big money is not going to be made in the dispersants or the clean-up.
The big money to be made will be made from bankrupting the south, I'd suspect from the real estate and business collapse. Maybe shortages and arbitrage on food, water, loaning money to desperate people and businesses.
Must think more along these lines. The people you're dealing with would like to see a few million desperate families and businesses, that will be willing to sell everything they have to move their families, and or buy a months worth of groceries.
When everyone else is broke and they're the only ones with cash. A massive finishing blow to the American middle-class, and consolidation of power in the hands of a few who can leave with all their wealth to a country they control, that has a strong military, and nuclear weapons, to protect their ill-gotten gains.
Notice how this matches up with eliminating extended unemployment benefits, talk of reducing spending by governments, talk of cutting social security.
I can see them offering to buy up all the water infrastructure around the U.S. knowing Corexit will "poisen the wells".
As one of the characters said in Scar-Face, "never underestimate the other guys greed".
there are people that would squander billions of peoples dollars if it meant they could pocket $10k for nothing...they are the same kinda of people the traded slaves etc...its sad and infuriating, I can understand someone barely making it doing something sort of bad or harmful for money, but when people who are already well-off will ruin our environment, start a war, torture people, take billions of taxpayer money (dictators, elite inside business people etc...) just so they can have a bit more money and power, I have a hard time of thinking of them as people...devil incarnate more like...
CustomersMan
"The big money to be made will be made from bankrupting the south"
"Must think more along these lines...
"As one of the characters said in Scar-Face, 'never underestimate the other guys greed.'"
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Mr. Broker (Customer's Man)
I must say I admire your industriousness.
P.A. Announcer: [before the start of the New York game] Your attention please... Rule changes for tonight's World Championship Game: No substitutions, no penalties... and no time limit!
I saw this in a movie once, called Rollerball (1975 version). At the time I thought it was leftist, antibusiness dribble. My, how the times can change your opinion.
You have been on top of this mess since the beginning. Thank you.
You're right ... those fishermen, shrimpers, small businesses, tourist businesses, and oil workers (not working for BP) in the Gulf are a bunch of commie lefties ...
Some of them seem pretty clever at milking BP. Not communist at all. Why would you write that about them? They employ all those deck hands and two trawlers in addition to the costs of the barge.
Oil-skimming barge built near Slidell getting good reviews
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/07/oil-skimming_barge_built_near.html
"It's been a great success," said St. Tammany Parish President Kevin Davis, who credited the barge with helping reduce the number of tarballs reaching shore in the past week. We're so excited about the barge that we're trying to get it in use 24 hours a day."
snip
Two fishing boats drag a V-shaped boomline to funnel oily water and tarballs into an opening at the front of the trailing barge.
Crew members use scoop nets to remove the globs of oil, averaging about 10 pounds of tarballs a day.
"That might not sound like a lot, but we're catching everything we see out there," Killian said. "It's not like they're getting past us."
snip
"There was no blueprint; not even a drawing on a napkin," Killian said. "It went straight from his head to being built on the ground."
Construction took nearly a month and cost about $1 million, he said.
"It was an old-country-boy approach," said Killian, who named the barge "Miss Charlotte" after his wife. "We had welders and fitters pitching in with ideas about how to make it work."
What could be better. He spends a million, names it for his wife, gets work for his family's trawlers, collects 10 lbs of tar balls, bills BP for all of the BS.
obvious troll, whoever is paying you should get their money back
Why don't you drive down to Alabama, go for a swim, and report back to us?
While you're there, please be sure to consume as much fish and shrimp as you can eat.
Perhaps the toxic nature and danger of corexit was the reason the UK banned it.
Augustus= less than human. You disgust me. Junked you.
I can only TRY to educate you. Granite is hard to frac.
Augustus the Pagan anonymous,
You are a pathetic excuse for a human, that I am certain of.
Tell me which do you enjoy more for the 30 pieces of silver you have taken to betray your your own kind; Just the thrill of lying and leading people astray or is it a bigger rush knowing that you lead people astray from the ultimate truth.
Tree,
The corn cobs you use for ass wipes have brought infections which have passed to your brain. I'm really fearful for you and hope you soon seek treatment at the nearest BP medical facility. They know how to dispose of hazardous waste. Best thing - they won't tell your family about it.
You and Geo Wash will love this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEm6OJ43OGY
Bakersfield Vortex Plan - it uses an Einstein solution and a Tesla solution
get rid of bp, trade the remaining oil for the debt they owe.
vortex the oil back using nuclear powered aircraft carriers
this plan was submitted to Barack Obama two months ago who refused to use it for what reasons are unknown he did email me. Note his grandfather was a british cook watch his berlin wall speach. he has no intent to rid bp but rather to help them at the cost of our Nation.
Augustus, given that even Exxon scientists say that Corexit has some toxicity, that Corexit was used in the response to the Exxon Valdez oil spill, and almost all of the cleanup crew working on the Exxon Valdez oil spill are now dead, with the average life expectancy for an Exxon Valdez oil spill worker being around 51 years, 26.9 fewer years than the average American, are you sure you want to go down that road?
Geo Wash,
Is there a substance you can name which is not harmful is sufficient quantity? Iron? Nitrogen? Copper? Belly button lint?
The (unsourced) claim about almost all exxon valdez workers being dead is pure unadulturated crap. The fact that "some blonde woman" gets on CNN and makes unsubstantiated claims, and then YOU GW point to it as a source OF FACT, while RAILING AGAINST the mainstream media (hint CNN is the mainstream media) ..... this whole scenario is like a scene right out of Idiocracy or something.
CNN blonde is referring to testimony of Dr. Riki Ott, who was involved with Exxon Valdez and is a marine toxicologist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbS8uHJUUJM&feature=PlayList&p=172C6D317E...
Here are some MSM appearances by Dr. Ott:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riki-ott/human-health-tragedy-in-t_b_58265...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsYg8Vgo1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wrQCY76fps
Trout - thank you for providing sources. I watched/read each one. In none of the sources you provided did I find her assertion that almost all of the cleanup crew working on the Exxon Valdez oil spill are now dead.
GW, can we expect you to make a correction?
You're right, Dr. Ott said that "a lot" of the Exxon Valdez workers are now dead, but not "most are dead".
But she did say 100% are disabled. Not good news for BP Gulf workers...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbS8uHJUUJM&feature=PlayList&p=172C6D317E...
I think she said she had personally knowledge of 6700 or so Exxon Valdez cleanup workers with respiratory health issues, and of those 6700, "a lot" of them are dead. So the number of dead (alot) would be a subset of the 6700, not a subset of the entire workforce.
I took this to mean that of the 6700 or so workers that she had personal knowledge of, some of them were 100% disabled.
Here is what she said in a letter to Waxman in 2007: "... and it is likely literally thousands (est. 3,000 from Yalesurvey, p. 164) are suffering chronic health problems stemming from the EVOS cleanup." http://www.rikiott.com/pdf/Waxman_2007.pdf
So not sure how many dead she is claiming but it would appear that she has certainly not claimed that almost all of the EVOS workforce is dead.
Where is this "testimony" that you speak of. You linked only a blog article and a few on-camera interviews. I ask because I wonder where the life expectancy of 51 years came from. Did the blonde gal on CNN dream that one up all be herself?
GW - still waiting on a correction.
goebbels talking to hitler in the underworld: "damnnnnn... they're good!"
Stalin to Lenin: "It took us how long to kill our first 50 million? They're attempting it in one election cycle?"
+1 George
If you live within 200 miles of the Gulf Coastline (like I do, Baton Rouge is my hometown) please take the time to educate yourself and plan for your safety as this is not going to stop! My heart tears apart knowing that this is occurring in my home, places I have countless memories of and several hundreds of wonderful pictures of Offshore and coastal fishing family events that will Never be the same because of greed and hubris. We are not LITTLE PEOPLE Hayward! May God the Lord of host have mercy on your wretched soul.
There will come a time if this continues and I believe it will, to have to decide if and when to leave. Thanks for letting me vent (all posters here at ZH and George Washington who has been diligent without wavering in keeping this issue at the front where it needs to be), but it is truly time to protect our families from this apocalypse.
"To Thine Own self Be TRUE"
How will the oil underneath the surface ever be captured?
More importantly, how long until we (collectively) get off our asses and start doing, instead of typing? Something tells me it will be far too late by the time we act.
I live in Thailand so far way from this disaster but is there any truth to the rumour that they were spraying this chemical at night time ?
Also what about the rumours the sea floor was weak and underneath there is a huge reservoir of methane – is this still being discussed ? And what happens if the relief wells don’t work ?
I cannot report on any night time spraying. If it did occur, it would have been offshore.
Sure there is a resevoir with methane in it. That is where natural gas is found, in an underground reservoir. This one is fairly small. The reservoir is made up of solid rock with some small porosity. that is what all oil and gas is produced from.
I have already engaged the enemy. I'm already in hand-to-hand combat with the mayor of my little town. His pussy ass may not lose, but I guarantee that son of a bitch is gonna bleed heavy before I'm done with his pathetic ass. Holler at me when you're ready to march on Washington. Until then, I'll be cracking the bastards down this way. One bastard at a time, IS, one bastard at a time.
There's 535 of them. Better roll up your sleeves and get to work.
There's 535 of them. Better roll up your sleeves and get to work.