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Toyota President Acknowledges Defeat, Says Company "Grasping For Salvation"

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In a rare example of corporate accountability and humility, the president of Toyota, arguably the best run auto company in the world, Akio Toyoda, had some very harsh words for not just his company's recent decline, which he characterized as "grasping for salvation", but for his own failure at prevent this collapse. One wonders when Mr. Toyoda's American counterparts, whose own failures are orders of magnitude worse, will do admit even a minor fraction of comparable culpability.

As Autoweek reports:

The world's largest car company was once targeting annual sales of 10 million vehicles but now expects sales of 7.3 million this year, down from 8.97 million in 2008, Toyoda said today at a news conference.

Citing the five stages of corporate decline outlined by Jim Collins, author of How the Mighty Fall, the Toyota chief warned that his company has slumped to stage four, which Collins calls “grasping for salvation.”

“We are grasping for salvation,” Toyoda said, adding that the company already has spiraled through the first three stages: (1) hubris born of success, (2) undisciplined pursuit of more and (3) denial of risk and peril. His self-admonitions echoed the apologies commonly made by Japanese executives who take responsibility for financial turmoil or corporate scandal.

“Toyota has become too big and distant from its customers,” the grandson of the automaker's founder said as he prepares for a second-straight year of substantial financial and unit-sale decreases.

What is shocking is the humility in Toyoda's confession: while Toyota is nowhere near Jim Collins' Fifth stage "Capitulation to irrelevant or death", this is precisely the circle of hell in which the Detroit 3 find themselves yet continue deluding themselves that they provide relevant, innovative products. Ironically, these same American companies never cared to admit as they were spiraling out of control through the first four stage either, and now it is far too late for redemption. And compliments of a subsidy-happy and union-friendly administration, US auto makers will continue their perpetual state of denial, long after Toyota has been reduced to a shadow of its former self, despite having an incomparably better business model.

And as to why not just subsidies, but a Bernanke-mandated policy of trade isolationism, simply for the sake of pumping up a Ponzi stock market, will be the ultimate reason for capitalism's downfall, as otherwise efficient companies are unable to compete in a world market supported by a flounder reserve currency, this is what the Toyota president had to say:

Toyoda called the current dollar-yen rate "very tough," saying the weak U.S. currency made it difficult to return to profit on an unconsolidated level.

If anyone thinks Toyota is alone in its plight of taking on the Fed's printing presses head on (even as Japan's finance minister inexplicably is for a strong Yen policy and thus suicidal to his country's trade balance), you are wrong. As America is a major net global importer (or has been until Bernanke decided to kill the dollar), all who wish to sell their wares to the US consumer are at a significant disadvantage as they have to cut prices, thus eating into profit margins and bottom line earnings.

Will things change? No. After all Obama needs to subsidize every single dead or dying industry in order to spend the billions of dollars that the Chairman has printed. Expect numerous such dislocations in all aspects of the US economy. Ironically, even Toyoda is against an ongoing tidal wave of endless government subsidies:

Toyoda said he would welcome an unlikely extension of Japan's cash-for-clunkers program beyond March, while adding it would not be prudent to keep depending on the government for help.

Unfortunately, at this point in the life cycle of American capitalism, "depending on the government for help" is the only thing the shattered business world of a formerly great country can rely on.

h/t Dvolatility




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Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Hondo
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Well, this is good medicine.  The US has had to deal with the same aspect for years while the Yen declined vs the dollar (manufactured by Japanese intervention) so now let the Japanese company become more efficient or move production to............the next cheapest country.........or even the US if the $$ declines against most world currencies.

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 20:34 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 10/04/2009 - 03:19 | Link to Comment Arm
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You are an idiot.  Toyota has extremely diversified manufacturing operations throughout the world.  It is great not because the yen was declining, but rather because it can produce a car at a third of the price of US companies.  

Sun, 10/04/2009 - 23:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Silly Japanese haven't yet learned to be accomplished liars like we Americans.

Never admit defeat. You are simply marshaling resources for the next assault.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:36 | Link to Comment curbyourrisk
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Work for a Japanese company here in the US..... They are all bitching.  Sometimes it makes me feel good to know the pain is not ours alone!

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:35 | Link to Comment Mannwich
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Accountability and humility by a U.S. corporate exec?  Surely you must be kidding? 

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:35 | Link to Comment SDRII
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japan's largest trading partner is China - that is where the growth is. Japan may be signaling that it intends to absorb some serious pain in hopes of finally breaking its addiction. use the stonger yen to horde in the material deficient country

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:37 | Link to Comment Daedal
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Shout out to Ken Lewis.

Japanese have honor, accountability, and humility. Here's a slightly dated ~1 year old, but very timely example of a Japanese CEO:

http://www.glenntilton.com/newsarticles/2008/11/6/japan-airlines-ceo-slashes-his-pay-below-that-of-pilots-cnn.html

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:41 | Link to Comment suteibu
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The Japanese have a culture that many see as a weakness.  I disagree.  Such humility displayed by Toyoda is a reach back to that culture.  It preceeds introspection.  The Japanese will pull together as a culture and survive.  The US, declining without a strong culture to fall back on, will be like a sinking ship.  And, as this administration and the Fed drill more holes in the bottom to let all the water out, the rats will start abandoning ship.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:50 | Link to Comment Assetman
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Oh, we do have a strong culture-- it's based on winning at all costs. 

Unfortunately, it's been primarily fraud and deceit that has been making the ends meet over the last decade or so.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:53 | Link to Comment suteibu
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Well, exactly.  Japan's biggest problem over the last two decades may be their desire to be more like the US.  Perhaps this crisis will show them the errors of such envy.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:56 | Link to Comment curbyourrisk
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Well.....our biggest problem right now is we are acting like them.  QE first and rising taxes next.

 

Great.....does this mean 2 lost decades for us too?

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:35 | Link to Comment Humble Gentleman
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It is likely that it will be worse for us, because of our massive economic imbalances.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:44 | Link to Comment suteibu
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Quite so.  When the Japanese turned on their printing presses, the people saved money.  On top of that, there was little consumer debt to begin with.  We are in way over our heads for many reasons to hope that we fare as well in the foreseeable future as Japan has for the last two decades.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 17:54 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 18:59 | Link to Comment snorkeler
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Exactly, if you can't win honestly then cheat. It permeates our entire society from athletes that cheat to our exalted celebrity entertainers who cheat on their wives, cheat on their taxes etc. etc. etc.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Divided States ...
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Cant wait to hear Bob Piss-on-me Pisani make the case that the bulls came back to salvage another day.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 18:10 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:48 | Link to Comment Mos
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I especially love the new GM commericals with that old geezer chairman of theirs.  What's his line? Oh yes,  "car for car when compared to the competition, we win, simple as that."  lol....

full commercial here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0te5pU_3qk

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:02 | Link to Comment Sancho Ponzi
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Government Motors

After we 'saved' GM, remember that commercial with the hottie pushing Buicks? I literally couldn't stop laughing. Do they know anything about marketing and demographics? 

 

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 19:02 | Link to Comment snorkeler
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Those commercials are sad because they are so stupid.

He needs his mouth washed out with Absorbine Jr.

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 08:53 | Link to Comment sethstorm
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As long as General Motors is one of the two remaining manufacturers of actual cars vs glorified golfcarts and exotic showpieces.

I drive a car from one of GM's other abandoned brands and I'm not ashamed of driving it or owning it.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:47 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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(1) hubris born of success, (2) undisciplined pursuit of more and (3) denial of risk and peril.

Hmmm... where have I seen these 3 before...

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:53 | Link to Comment trader1
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day-trading...it's for losers, ya know

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:57 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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With a puny 50 point drop in S&P, many bears are already sounding like the above.

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 00:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Firecracker-Report
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And Ford CEO Alan Mulally is touting a V-shaped recovery (38% growth by 2011) in the U.S. car market. Enclosed is a link to our report on why his Thesis is WRONG. The U.S. car market is in a terrible funk from which it is not going to recover in a long time to come.

http://firecracker-report.blogspot.com/2009/09/why-ford-ceos-us-car-market-in-v-shaped.html

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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Man, if Toyota is in stage four, US auto companies are probably in stage 10.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:05 | Link to Comment trader1
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as an american ex-pat living overseas, i wouldn't count out america as defeated...especially it's culture. 

the fate of america rests in its citizenry.  there are some great americans out there that see the big picture and are raising their voices.  it only takes a few to instill the vision, along with the execution, in order to make great change for the better.

 

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:06 | Link to Comment SV
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As much as I share your appreciation of the nature of our country, it's citizenry are mindless zombies right now, with a good case of denial.  Even the most simple conversations I attempt to have with people on these subjects have most of them looking at me like I'm speaking Esperanto.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:16 | Link to Comment trader1
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like the great george michael once said, you gotta have faith...

but, it is tough to have these talks with people.  but, you'd be surprised that you'll find the same difficulties in many other places around the world. 

 

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 16:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 17:28 | Link to Comment trader1
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touché!

"ya gotta believe!" -tug mcgraw

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:18 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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 i wouldn't count out america as defeated...especially it's culture. 

 

can you please tell me, where is this, so called American culture; in its centennial warmongering; its blatant seizure of the globe via its army bases; half a century of global warfare ( [ Korea, Iraq ( Iran maybe ) ] ); threatening the world IF the dollar loses its reserve status. Oh, but if you mean culture, as culture; im not sure Jerry Lewis and Brittney Spears classify as culture. ( Again no offence; but this is how it is; i mean why bullshit one another ). America HAD culture 50 yrs ago, but lost it when it stopped being a country and began being a marketplace ...

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:25 | Link to Comment suteibu
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What he said.

 

I will add, Cheeky, that your last sentence explains the first one.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:50 | Link to Comment pigpen
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Cheeky, let me know where to send the residuals for my t-shirt sales with your quote

America HAD culture 50 yrs ago, but lost it when it stopped being a country and began being a marketplace ...

This is going to be a big seller.

Cheers,

Pigpen

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:57 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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LOL pigpen ; no need to; you can keep it all; im pretty much settled as it is ...

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:59 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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and that also dried up a year ago; now the main export is $-hit ...

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 16:11 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Bob Dobbs
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You know, 60 years ago people stopped dying of consumption.  They've started again!

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 05:12 | Link to Comment trader1
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try weapons/aircraft

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 16:05 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 17:08 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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from where i come from; that doesnt constitute as culture; pop-culture maybe; but not culture. Culture is; well let wikipedia tell you what Culture is...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture ( this is more of a interdisciplinary article, but you wil et what im trying to tell you ). Mozart is culture; Bach is culture, Michelangelo is culture, Mallarme is culture ( just to name a few out of  1000s ); Elvis; he was a musician who was limb. Well maybe your definition of culture is Anglo-Saxon, while mine is more of a Continental; so we might not agree based on paradigms of our definition; but consensually; i think Anglo-Saxon paradigm ( with a few exceptions of course ) does not suit me, or most, in their view on what a Culture is. 

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 18:36 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 10/03/2009 - 05:21 | Link to Comment trader1
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good point.

never understimate the time value of "culture"

 

 

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 05:19 | Link to Comment trader1
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where do you come from cheeky? 

the way you write sounds elitist and holier than thou...i can understand if that's in error if english is not your native tongue.  but, it seems your only beef is that you just dislike anglo-saxon culture.  and just because "it doesn't suit you" or your definition of what a culture is, doesn't make it any less of a culture.  it's different, and that's all.

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 05:55 | Link to Comment Gwaihir
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The difference is that (generalization here) Americans are self-referential to an homogeneous culture. Immigrants adopt to it. In Europe you cross borders and you change cultures. Europeans have therefore to be much more cultural-aware and complex than Americans. Learning at least one foreign language is a first step on that road. This is an observation, not a judgement on any culture.

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 09:27 | Link to Comment trader1
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if you look at american history closely, you will notice that immigrants have defined american culture.  perhaps in a post 9/11 world, that has changed, but it's too early to decide that moot point. 

(as a sidenote, two (european) immigrants that are distinguishable for defining the (perhaps negative) perceptions of american "culture" and foreign policy of the last 40+ years are none other than henry kissinger and zbigniew brzezinski)

your observation is fair, but i wouldn't say that europeans go much further than americans in being culturally-aware and complex.  they are forced to by their own history and geography and need for international trade.  there are quite a number of europeans that remain ignorant (just as many other people around the world), only speak one language (" "), and are racists (" ").

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 09:01 | Link to Comment trader1
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cheeky, i find it perfectly fitting that you have to reference wikipedia for a definition of culture.  if you would have read the wikipedia article, then you would realize that you contradict yourself.  but i digress....why can't you explain in your own words what culture really is?

well, you try...but your attempt at citing some dead (albeit great) musicians and artists as examples of culture fall far short of what culture is really all about.  at least in my humble opinion.

but, the only point you have proven is that there are different threads interwoven into the much broader tapestry of culture.  pop and "non-pop"...

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 09:32 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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 but i digress....why can't you explain in your own words what culture really is?

 

a) i dont have a semester worth of time

b) you dont have the necessary pre-knowledge ( i suppose ) 

c) i do not own ZH and cant write a 10000 page response to your question

d) you can not simplify the answer to the question " What is culture ? "

e) oversimplification is deterioration of the subject

f) you oversimplified your response to my original post

g) the term can relate to the vast area of phenomena 

i) some things i find a priori and take them as universally known ( because i do not know what the quantity of those who know them is, so i find them universal )

Oh; and there is no " holier than thou " attitude here my friend; just a 0 tolerance policy towards making thing simple just so they could suit a simple mind ( no offence ).

 

But if you want a draft of what a culture is it can be summarized this way; A set of events which constitute the present state. (i know i painted it wide; but you can pretty much go on from here )

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 11:26 | Link to Comment trader1
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i call your ad-hominem...and i raise you.

you succeeded in wasting my time with 11 lines of text that say nothing other than that you are a presumptuous twit. (offense intended)

and besides, you are the guilty party of over-simplification by listing mozart, bach, etc as "culture".  plus, a lot of your comments that i've read for several months now are quite simplified (and derogatory).  and simplified is fine, because the world is only as complex as you make it. 

your closing says much more about your mindset, which is not off the mark, but yes it's way too wide as you point out.  you've succeeded admirably in summarizing history, of which culture is a sub-category. 

perhaps clarifying where you come from -- as you yourself initially highlighted as the basis for your perception of culture and on which you have been questioned -- would better give the community an understanding into how you view culture the way you do.

notwithstanding your answer, i'm satisfied with ending the culture debate here.  you've proven what i intended to demonstrate.

 

 

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 21:01 | Link to Comment snorkeler
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Great list 86934. All huge influences on me. I was born in 1959.  Name someone born after that year. Or for that matter, after 1969.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Bob Dobbs
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You be so right on with that rap man.  Hell, I don't even see kids playing outside anymore.  We done replaced our birthright with a credit card.  Shee it!

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 18:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 19:07 | Link to Comment snorkeler
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American culture?  WTF?

If anything looks good at all:  buy it, corrupt it, package it, market the fuck out of it, ram it down everyone's throat.

Repeat above over and over until extinction.

 

 

 

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 19:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 10/03/2009 - 08:49 | Link to Comment trader1
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american culture is no doubt anglo-saxon at its core, but also a collage of other immigrant communities primarily characterized as monotheistic, capitalistic, materialistic, and individualistic - and also defined by a penchant for risk-taking.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 14:59 | Link to Comment SteveNYC
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A lesson that should be taught to US CEO's:

 

1) Humility

2) Honesty

3) Honor

 

Instead, we get lies, bigger lies, bigger frauds, more lies, additional lies, cover-up lies, lies of embelishment.......the list goes on.

The USA has a very hard time facing reality. Most of her citizens are simply ill-prepared.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:19 | Link to Comment trader1
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it's a lesson that should be taught to everyone, irregardless if you're a CEO.  and, it's up to good parents/family and/or good community role models to teach these lessons. 

character is developed at such a young age (16-18 and younger) that it hardly makes a difference in the mindset and behavior of much older individuals (barring some traumatic life-changing experience or awakening).

this is not just about the USA. 

most people in america just have no idea what's going on overseas or what's being reported in foreign news to comprehend that america isn't alone in this plight.  it's a world-wide problem.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:14 | Link to Comment etrader
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Looks like Toyota will pull its F1 race team.

 

 

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:24 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:49 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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tell me something i don't know ( there is a rumor going round the paddock in Suzuka that Hamilton might leave Macca if Kimi signs the deal with them and if Merc buys into Brawn; now thats a shocker )

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 19:51 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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Yes indeed, lots of rumors. I even heard that Toyota was looking at Jenson Button. They say its a buyer's market so anything can happen.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:24 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
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FYI Julian Robertson currently on Bloomberg TV

 

from curve steepeners to curve caps

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:29 | Link to Comment glenlloyd
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I'm waiting for production of the new GM Trabant to commence!

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 16:55 | Link to Comment anynonmous
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edit

 

 

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:44 | Link to Comment Harbourcity
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Citing the five stages of corporate decline outlined by Jim Collins, author of How the Mighty Fall, the Toyota chief warned that his company has slumped to stage four, which Collins calls “grasping for salvation.”

“We are grasping for salvation,” Toyoda said, adding that the company already has spiraled through the first three stages: (1) hubris born of success, (2) undisciplined pursuit of more and (3) denial of risk and peril.

 

Better the fourth stage of corporate decline than the fourth stage of cancer.  Which one applies to the US?

 

 

 


Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:50 | Link to Comment Dixie Normous
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Post error

 

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 16:07 | Link to Comment desk-jockey
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might be time to buy a Toyota instead of a Ford....

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 16:59 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 18:42 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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Please forward to our friends at Toyota.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2149855_perform-seppuku-harikari.html

Also wouldn't hurt if folks at the Fed took a peek.

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 19:11 | Link to Comment snorkeler
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The Fed!!???!!!  the incurably arrogant must be removed forcibly.  Seppuku is not in their line at all.  

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 21:04 | Link to Comment ozziindaus
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When american leaders fail, they perform Bukaki on their citizens

Fri, 10/02/2009 - 19:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 23:41 | Link to Comment brown_hornet
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Toyota-great company to buy from and to work for.

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 08:03 | Link to Comment Bob Dobbs
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Toyota makes nice cars.  Of course the basic model of any automobile is its best representative.  All the more advanced cars are made from the basics.  Toyota cars are easily repaired.  The dealers are low keyed, and give good service.  I usually ask for a specific type of vehicle.  I has to be cheap and easy to repair; they never try to talk me out of what I want.  I drive the car I buy 'til it has 275 -300k, repairing it myself.  I do buy the parts from Toyota. 

 

I'd gladly do the same with a GM or Ford.  I understand that their cars used to be like that.  But not since I have been driving.  That's forty years next year.

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 08:05 | Link to Comment Bob Dobbs
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Oh, by the way.  I became my own mechanic by having to repair an American car.  You see, it broke so often that I was always fixing it.

Sat, 10/03/2009 - 01:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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