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Treasury Free Fall

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One entertaining side effect of soon paying $4.00 for gas again while housing prices keep crashing is that bond prices will soon be very amusing. But no worries, at least that paper profit in the 401(k) which the baby boomers will soon need to start extracting is up for the day - Bernanke's Friday mission - accomplised. In the meantime, better get a whole lot of those OMO actions ready on deck.

hat tip J Bravo




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Fri, 08/07/2009 - 10:59 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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what the fuck ( looking and the first capture)

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 17:42 | Link to Comment Apocalypse Now
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:01 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Dollar seems to have benefited significantly from this little 'transaction'.   Back above 78 which I suppose is somewhat critical level to prevent  drop to 72.

 

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:05 | Link to Comment Sancho Ponzi
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:25 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Ah thanks.  I'm a big fan of Dr Jim Willie, it's always a nice surprise to see him release a new public article.  Time to get coffee to sit down and enjoy a good read.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:09 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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This bit was interesting:

"The [Treasury] auctions have continued, but their schedule is very frightening since the volume for given days and weeks equals what was once volume for an entire month one year ago. The press networks tell of successful funding for the bonds, even though additional needs are required to keep the stock market afloat. Two deceptions here occur. First, by means of USDollar Swap Facilities, the USDept Treasury is handing money to friendly foreign central banks in order to purchase USTreasurys in hidden or custodial accounts, all indirect bidders. Without them, the auctions would fail miserably. Second, the bid-to-cover ratio is reported in a manner that includes the official primary bond dealers. They, however, are obligated to bid on all auctions. So the 1.92 bid/cover seen last week was an actual failure, since only 92% of bids occurred outside the primary dealers who hustle to unload their inventory. More double counting comes, now that Toronto Dominion and Royal Bank (both of Canada) as well as Nomura (of Japan) join the primary bond dealer ranks. This road leads to staggering hidden monetization of USTreasurys and outright auction failures, BOTH, with severe damage done to the USDollar confidence and reputation."

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:00 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:03 | Link to Comment Oso
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I am literally fighting running gun battles with Bulls in the office here.  How can anyone reconcile the yield surge with a recovery when 40-100% of the economy is being supported by govt borrowing and the "hope" of continued refi...??

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:00 | Link to Comment aldousd
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Just don't let the "ones who got us into this mess do a lot of talking."

Obama's words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jifjRVLVjzA&feature=player_embedded

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 13:01 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:03 | Link to Comment lsbumblebee
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Funny how the Yen blew past 97 this morning. Prop the dollar up and smash gold. Nice work fellas!

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:09 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:13 | Link to Comment lsbumblebee
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You're right. Over the past week or so there appears to be a big time buyer at the dips.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:18 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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Paulson ( the other one )

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:31 | Link to Comment Arm
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Yeah.  He has to protect his interest in AngloGold Ashanti.  If gold drops he suddenly has to liquidate $1.3B in illiquid stock.  Not the best decision from a hedgie

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:42 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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that and the fact that he bought 4 billion worth of gold and gold derivatives in April, and has said that he will make his position larger on a monthly basis. And as far as i know he put another 2 bil since then into gold and gold derivatives. But i don't think its a crazy move, its a long term strategy and he has apparently valued gold as cheap and decided to get ape shit and buy, because we all know inflation is coming sooner or later

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 17:47 | Link to Comment Apocalypse Now
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I see gold as a currency and one that will survive when we run out of paper.  It diversifies risk from hyper-inflation and deflation that would impact currencies.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 17:54 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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true that AP .... I'm lucky enough to be located near the factory they melt the stuff and the guy who owns the business is a long time friend, i can get an early signal when the new shipment in arriving ... i buy every couple of months a mid-size amount of gold, and even though i don't hold dollars it makes me sleep peacefully at nigh ...

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:36 | Link to Comment curbyourrisk
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GOLD is a store of VALUE.   Not an investment hedge.  It is a hedge....period.  No up..no down.  You want something that moves with the dollar...play OIL

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:44 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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ditto BenClown .... and the Boys at JPM and SAC know that very well ...

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:20 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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I think gold has held up well so far.  Didn't notice the yen though -- thanks.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:17 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Oh, yeah, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  It's just all so funny.  Like your raging herpes outbreak.  So funny.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Sancho Ponzi
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If you're looking for tips on how to line your pockets with coin, you've come to the wrong site

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:20 | Link to Comment mule65
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How so?  My SPY's and IWM's are rocketing knowing the Fed won't let them fall.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:04 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 17:50 | Link to Comment Apocalypse Now
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We're at DefCon 5 in terms of the economy, financial systems, and the market.

Make sure you have a bunker somewhere - remember, duck & cover.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:18 | Link to Comment Oso
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the kool-aid you drink cracks me up.  what did you say in Oct 2007? same thing i bet, "all is good.  all is well.  la di da. Im a sheep, bah bah bah". 

 

what exactly do you think is going on in the world?  this is not a business cycle recession.  take one look at estonia/lithuania/latvia and that alone should scare the sh*t out of you. 

this is not a test.  this is real.  you stay long.  and try not to sh*t yourself on the way down.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:27 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:57 | Link to Comment Art Vandelay
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MRIs?  Bears have been hoarding Magnetic Resonance Imaging machines? 

Does this have anything to do with health care reform?

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:13 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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period between sep. 09 and dec. 21st 2012

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:00 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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Q2 2010 then I get your 2 year supply of MRIs

 

WTF is wrong with you, medical equipment is not a hedge

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:10 | Link to Comment Sancho Ponzi
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OT: Transportation stocks getting a massive pump today

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:22 | Link to Comment Steak
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I has theory.  In the likely scenario over the next 4 weeks, the Fed sends strong signals it will not ease for any forseeable future and Japan will be signaling it will tighten within a year or so.  If those are the signals sent to the market then its game on for the dollar carry trade.  And if the dollar carry trade picks up the treasury complex will likely be sold off something fierce to fund it.

Or maybe not, but it makes sense to me.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:22 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Japan has elections coming up in about 37 days or so, it looks like the ruling party for the past 50+ years might get thrown out.  If they do, the opposition party has promised (who knows if they keep this)  to issue USD credit in yen denominated bonds.  

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:30 | Link to Comment Steak
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The natural trade would be to sell the dollar and buy the yen, yes?

And a random nugget about the elecion...it would seem the New Komeito Party would be inclined to join a coalition with the DPJ, so a push falls in the DPJ's favor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Komeito

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:11 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Thanks.  

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 18:08 | Link to Comment Apocalypse Now
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The US would just have a conversation with the new party.  Talk softly and carry a big HAARP.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:21 | Link to Comment mdtrader
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S&P's hit 1014, which is the 38.2% Fib of the whole bear market move lower 1576-666

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:26 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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nothing out of the ordinary, when you compare the past bear market rallies ( which  hate to do) but so far this depression is nothing out of the ordinary. I wouldn't be surprised if the snp hits 1200-1250 range before the big retracement ( i will ad some charts later ti validate my point )

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:28 | Link to Comment mdtrader
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Could do. Nasdaq 100 has already done a 50% Fib at 1628 2239-1018.

If the bulls are going to fail, then this is place for it to happen, if not, then it's off to the races again.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:49 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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they are not gonna let it go down more than 5 %. It would crush any chance the present Congress line-up has for re-election and would kill all of Barry's plans ...  heck, they might be crazy enough to push the Dow to 10 000,snp to 1300, and NASDAQ to 2300 and just trade it sideways for the whole 2010 and drop all of it like a rock in the fall of 2010 after the political climate stabilizes ... not an impossible thing to do ...

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:59 | Link to Comment mdtrader
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Not convinced, too many external influences over which they have no control, which could throw spanners in the works.

I just think Wall Street is doing what it always does, acting like idiots. The same people that were panic selling out at 666 are the same people who are panic buying in at 1014. Somewhere in the middle is probably about right.

Interesting that the Nasdaq 100 hasn't made a new rally high today, well not yet anyway.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:05 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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true; March was oversold and August is overbought .. i think snp has a fair value somewhere around 770-810 range ... but i would disagree with that there is to much external influences ... if you watch all those big, and mid up days the volume was anemic; and those sell day when you had +250 down days on the DOW the volume was pretty strong. and after 5 months of computer trading i don't think there is much non-institutional money in the market ...mostly puters trading among themselves ( 70%) ... and i would say it is manageable ... if the dump was meant to happen it would happen when the dow hit 9000 mark ....

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:22 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:50 | Link to Comment Steak
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I dunno, I think bears have it with that FOMC announcement.  If Bubbles Ben announces the end of QE then a big buyer exits and the market swoons.  If Bubbles instead extends QE then we're likely to get the same as the UK...some buying that doesn't break any resistance on the way up and even LESS foreign interest than before.  Either way its just this guy's opinion that shortly 3.99 will be the support, not resistance.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/5983387/Gilt-prices-soar-after-Bank-of-England-extends-money-printing-plan.html 

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:27 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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check your e-mail

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:28 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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Me... Y? U got some time on your hands?

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:32 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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You have to blow Bernanke at the next FOMC meeting.   We operate on a system of escalating dares.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:31 | Link to Comment e1even1
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it took a couple days for me. patience grasshopper.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:33 | Link to Comment My cognitive di...
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Ground control. The US dollar has lift off.

Unbelievable. 

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:50 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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hopium/green shoot fuel mix ..

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:39 | Link to Comment My cognitive di...
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hahaha...good one, ya Cheeky Bastard.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:35 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 11:50 | Link to Comment BustaKeaton
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America Sellout...

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:00 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:04 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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thanks for pointing out. It fits perfectly with the theory that Europe and Asia are starting to realize they are behind the curve in their own currency destruction.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 16:30 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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It is a race to the nirvana of creative self destruction...

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:12 | Link to Comment lsbumblebee
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You call that "strength?" The boys are just buying some time so they can get out of Dodge before the posse wakes up.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:26 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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If USD taking a gasp of air above 78 constitutes "USD strength" I just might spit out the coffee out onto the screen.

 

*Nevermind* the

1) MACD crossover (50week / 20week) ,

2) Persistent (>6 months) weakness in RSI yet not oversold

2) the deteriorating global geopolitical situation (Pakistan, Georgia, etc),

3) negative current account deficit,

4) negative trade deficit,

5) zero percent interest rates (lets play Axel Merk's favourite game "Calculate the differential"!)

6) silent failed Treasury auction (1.92bid/cover) the other day, so that gives us

 

A) atrocious technicals  and B) atrocious fundamentals.

Yeah of course the dollar could reverse and rally hard -- because the big boys like to game the serfs  -- but afaict the indictators say dollar will continue to puke from last night's credit bender  unless  the doctors administer IV fluids.

 

 

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:25 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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It's called "beggar thy neighbor".

I don't understand the obsession with the strength of one fiat currency against another either.  They are all trying to debase their currency.  The Brits in a suprise (to some) announcement increase their debasement.  The Canadians are freaking out that their dollar is so strong.  The Japanese...nothing needs to be said there.  Chinese?  Currency debasement is institutionalized there.

It's a crazy, unstable system that won't last.  In the interim worry about the cost of real things, like oil and other commodities.  That's the only way to preserve your wealth.

 

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:37 | Link to Comment ex ante
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i told you guys the dollar was preparing to reverse on Wed when everyone was eyeing the trapdoor (remember RSI was diverging?)  DXY is going to par

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:42 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Par with GBP or with EUR?  And what's your timeline?

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 13:08 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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hahahaha ... awesome ..

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:37 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:44 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Read what I wrote -- I said "of course the dollar could reverse and rally hard."  We are living in a command economy.   If you can trade it , more power to you, but don't misrepresent my position.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:51 | Link to Comment Gwaihir
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What makes you so sure the dollar is weaker than the Euro?

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 13:09 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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I'm not sure -- just from a technical and fundamental perspective I believe the dollar is in trouble, unless there is intervention or an 'external event'. The Chinese have been vocal lately in their displeasure with the US financial management. (Remember Geithner getting laughed at by the Chinese students when he told them their investment was safe?)  In terms of Europe, I agree that's coming apart at the seams too. The Club Med vs. Germany divergence persists. Eastern Europe is also in trouble from what I understand (Latvia, Hungary, etc) -- and just got  a call during lunch from a friend who was explaining he sees possible market and currency weakness in Turkey, etc this could spill over into the Euro and benefit the dollar.

Fri, 08/07/2009 - 12:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 13:02 | Link to Comment RagnarDanneskjold
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I like that the bulls are getting bold. I feel better about the puts I picked up.

This week Prechter called for a stock market top in the near future, major U.S. dollar bottom and multi-year dollar rally. He seems to be pretty accurate these days.

 

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