True Finns Timo Soini Issues Statement: "Why I Won't Support More Bailouts"

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Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:05 | 1254923 silvertrain
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The Tea Party goes global..

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:12 | 1254941 topcallingtroll
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It was inevitable.

The tea party movement will be the great revolutionary event of the 21st century.

They really insist on cutting government spending. They so far have not been co-opted yet.

International tea partiers of the world unite!

We will call ourselves tobblies. ( might be a bit arcane)

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:16 | 1254949 cossack55
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The Finns may have to go with "Vodka Party", sounds like more fun anyway. 

I hope this cat stays out of hot tubs, risky since they are so popular there.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:45 | 1255015 Michael Victory
Mon, 05/09/2011 - 11:27 | 1255601 Ahmeexnal
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Funland is the next NATO no-fly zone. When Sarkozy and Merkel send the troops to take over that rouge nation, they will comply.

Timo will change his name to Timmy.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:44 | 1255944 ivars
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In that rogue nation, every family has guns-32 per 100 residents. Similar style army to Swiss. So be careful.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:50 | 1255041 Sudden Debt
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The proposition makes to much sense. Vodka or not, even the most drunk Euro Parlement Councel Dictator won't agree with it.

There aren't enough bribed into this "idea"!




Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:55 | 1255053 Oh regional Indian
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Coss, VodPar sounds good, but the bigger question should be, are we seeing EU stress along Viking/Non-viking lines too? Or is it Nordic vs. the rest? They do have the best oil, ladies and sense of themselves in all of the EU.

I see that rift (iceland, Finland to begin) as an interesting side-light. Because the way the world is going, they are going to be the new tropical paradisos' in Europe.

Finland. Sounds aquatic to me.


Mon, 05/09/2011 - 14:39 | 1256352 TheFourthStooge-ing
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We've got one that can see.


Mon, 05/09/2011 - 18:32 | 1257208 morkov
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Mon, 05/09/2011 - 10:14 | 1255296 Dr. Impossible
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"We will call ourselves tobblies. ( might be a bit arcane)"

..can't we call ourselves something more modern like ...."The Cockney Rebels" or something?


Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:19 | 1254951 Calvin Jones an...
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What Tea Partiers are advocating the TBTF's like Goldman Sux be allowed to fail?  I haven't heard it.  And I don't mean the Ron Paul people.  I mean the corporate astroturf types.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:25 | 1254963 Jim in MN
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Indeed, tell me a set of publically stated positions from any Tea Party source that would be inconvenient for Koch Industries, Halliburton or their other paymasters.

You won't be able to because it doesn't exist.

If a 'True Americanskis' party is to start, it will have to go after corporate corruption and the uberelite up front.  TP is EPIC FAIL to date.  Pure divide and conquer for the serfs.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:47 | 1255029 cossack55
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As usual, Jim, you are too right.  The Tea Party was so quickly and pervasively corrupted, they should use the methodology as an example in Ivy League schools for years to come.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:43 | 1255009 jplotinus
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I agree. The Tea Party has, to my knowledge, said little or nothing about TBTF bank bailouts. Generally, the TP claim is that "your health is your problem," seeing social spending as something that they, as rugged individualists, would prefer not to have as a parft of their desired social fabric. But, as to banks, the main thrust of the TP opposition seems to be towards assistance being given to community banks to the tune of $30billion.

Resucing community banks (i.e., those that actually provide banking services to local communities and that do not have a free pass to Fed printed money) has the TP in an uproar.

Rescuing TBTF banks and cutting the gargantuan spending on militarism do not appear to be TP priorities. 

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 09:23 | 1255158 Robert Neville
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I have attended Tea Party rallies since 2009 and the bailouts and crony capitalism are always a hot topic. The has Tea Party has no national leaders and no true organisation. Anyone who claims to speak for us is a pretender. You are correct that most of us are individualists but we detest having our money stolen by government for any reason, not just health care. I have always been opposed to the actions taken in the middle east and I would like to see us pull our military out all foreign countries unless they are willing to pay for the cost of us being there. The media has done it's best to portray us as a bunch of redneck racists that are opposed to government health care, but nothing could be further from the truth.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:41 | 1255013 BobPaulson
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You're kidding right? The Tea Party is a way of the TBTF banks to coopt the rage and make them think they're doing something when they are not.

Tempest in a Teapot.

Monumental fail.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:52 | 1255034 cossack55
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More like Tampon in a Teapot.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:43 | 1255021 Azannoth
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Don't equate a far-right religious movement in the USA with clear thinking people of Europe

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:53 | 1255039 cossack55
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Or with clear thinking people anywhere.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 09:30 | 1255172 Robert Neville
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You are not thinking clearly if you think the Tea Party is a religious organization. Try Attending a rally instead of forming your opinion from articles in leftist rags.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:48 | 1255026 aint no fortuna...
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that doesn't sound like the tea party - it sounds like good old plain common sense to me... pure, unarguable logic. Oh, but wait... bankers and paid off politicians don't like logic or common sense.

This guy ought to be chairman of the FRB.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 09:52 | 1255239 caconhma
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"The Tea Party " is a zionist ass-kissing and Rothschild criminal family POS.

Palin, a great political blabbermouth as a party leaders? You must be an imbecile.

The Tea Party leaders will sell people for few free tea cups and donuts.

America deserves better than few slimy assholes masquerading as people representatives. Paying less taxes and fighting more and more no-win wars? This fucking calculus does not add up!

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:47 | 1255948 ivars
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You already have the best of the best. THE obama.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 23:37 | 1257998 Papasmurf
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The snake has to heads.  One eats you faster.  The other head eats you slower.  It's the same snake.  Now we have the snake the promised less blood and murder, so we got more.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:39 | 1262590 Thunder_Downunder
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"Tea Party Goes Global"


Oh.. right. So they're a socialist democratic party now are they? 


Forgive my ignorance, but I thought they were a confused milling of disenfranchised replublicans...


I'm not entirely sure it would be possible for a blue blooded American politician to understand moderate social democratic politics...

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:11 | 1254932 hugovanderbubble
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Just in Europe?


and in US? Japanese BankS?


US muni bonds are whole in default WHOLE.....

UK internals are crappy figures cooked just for Olympic Games,

Whole World needs mega deflation to restart the system.


Come on, what a biased article.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:13 | 1254939 youngman
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Hear Hear.....this guy is spot on.....I wonder if he has a USA long form birth certificate to run for President here...on the other hand..he does not need one now....I want to buy something Finish...what do they sell that I can buy to help them out..????

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:14 | 1254946 cossack55
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I'll be buying a 3' x 5' Finnish flag to fly under the 4' x 6' Iceland flag that has replaced the Bennington flag I used to fly.  I can no longer identify even 13 states worthy of the title.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:14 | 1254947 topcallingtroll
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Vodka. I cant remember the brand.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:18 | 1254954 FubarNation
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That would be Finlandia.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:27 | 1254970 Jim in MN
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The cognac they drink is called Monopole because the state alcohol monopoly just takes whatever they can buy from abroad and lets it mix in the shipping tanks.

Charming and quite good.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:18 | 1254953 Frein
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Some choices:

1) You can buy a Nokia phone while the HQ still remains in Finland.

2) Buy a Finnish video game like Angry Birds to whatever tech gadget you have, Alan Wake for the 360 or Trine for PC/Mac/PS3.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:23 | 1254959 augie
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what he said.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:49 | 1255035 Quintus
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Nokia cellphones?

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:13 | 1254940 breezer1
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some sanity at last .

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:22 | 1254965 Ivanovich
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+1 * 4^25

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:18 | 1254948 anony
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Only one impossibly, insurmountable problem:  The assumption that the 'growth-oriented' policies will materialize.

The one Essential fact that is either purposely ignored, ignorantly overlooked, or sinister in that a few are aware of it and will not speak out is this---

OVERPOPULATION in the context of too few----- by a couple billion or more---JOBS to do and that ----in the context of what needs to get done and isn't for lack of properly trained human beans----need to get done.

Without that absolutely being divined, created, or mandated the only choice any government has to is to spread the pain over as many people as possible until such time as industries manifest themselves that will use up the available surplus humans that must eat, drink, be amused lest they resort to crime, and reproduce yet more humans.

Likely the elite know this.  They live in an entirely different universe, since their necessities have been met for many generations to come.  The government Hacks they hire know it but any one of them that says it, is likely out of a job if not recalled.

Malthus in a  perverted way was right.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:18 | 1254955 cossack55
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I would assert that Malthus and Darwin were both right in a perverted way, that is, if you define perverted as reality.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:19 | 1254960 anony
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I do.


Mon, 05/09/2011 - 09:05 | 1255098 LawsofPhysics
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I agree, the elite have long recognized that "humanity" as a whole will never live within its means with regard to the laws of physics and Nature.  Feed the masses propaganda and religious bullshit because they can not handle the truth.  The elite live in a different world where they protect each other and their offspring (in so much as they can) for generations to come via a co-opted government.  So if the "average" citizen is being set up for failure, the solution seems perfectly clear, do not be average.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 09:01 | 1255077 newworldorder
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I am convinced this is the great "fear" among the worlds ruling elite - overpopulation and what to do (if anything) about it. Not so much from a caring perspective, but from the concept of retaining their wealth and power over the great unwashed.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 10:12 | 1255285 BigJim
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You're suffering from the 'lump of labour' fallacy. Look around you - there's no end of things to be done, the problem is that the additional government-inflicted deadweight costs make it uneconomic to hire people to do it.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:16 | 1254950 ivars
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Great stuff. Wonder when some other real economies get such guys at power? Now too long to wait. The USA?

My bet was 2012, but perhaps only 2016, and in more dramatic form.


Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:20 | 1254952 bigdawg
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"This Europe, this vision, was one that offered the people of Finland and all of Europe the gift of peace founded on democracy, freedom, justice and subsidiarity. This is a Europe worth having, so it is with great distress that I see this project being put in jeopardy by a political elite who would sacrifice the interests of Europe's ordinary people in order to protect certain corporate interests."

Wasn't this the plan of the elites all along?

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:28 | 1254972 digalert
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Sounds fine and dandy, but then again, talk is cheap. Until I see some "major" aka TBTF failures and some bankster perp walks, I call Mr. Soini's statement BS.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:51 | 1255046 Quintus
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Jeez.  Give the guy a chance - he's not even in power yet.  Coalition negotiations are still ongoing AFAIK.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 09:04 | 1255091 newworldorder
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Any bets on when we will hear or read something similar and worded this bluntly from an American politician?


Mon, 05/09/2011 - 11:08 | 1255509 Alex Kintner
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Bernie Sanders has been railing against the Banksters for years. He and a literal handful of others. But there aren't enough 'un-bought' congress critters to do any good.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:48 | 1255953 pasttense
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Finnland has a population of 5 and a half million--out of a European Union population of 500 million. So how influential can he be?

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