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How could they forget "I was on unemployment but the program ended".....
I will spread it...fantastic!! people understand it finally and hopefully...what a wet fart rally today!
Does poker count as a job?
Answer: Only if you win.
My kids are going to love this. Vampire Squid, cartoons... No better way to teach economics.
BLS - Bureau of Lickers and Suckers
BLS is wrong. Real info here: http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data
If you just graduated from college or high school and can't find a job, what does that make you?
It makes you a jobless felon (if the health care bill passes).
Which in turn makes you desparate, pissed off, and without much to lose.
The extent of unemployment among recent graduates is not widely realized outside of, well, recent graduates. Same goes for the extent of recent firearm ownership.
This is Unf"" believable. So hillarious It made my day and I am not even looking for a job...
Tyler, on another note - could you throw up another Intraday Index px w/ volume chart for today? Very telling.
It was already headed for the highest volume in the last month, so there's no way it could stay red into the close... Look how little it took to gun it up for final reporting.
As always private enterprise has to lead the way.
Thx Mr. Biderman for the truth.
Hope & change & accountability & bullshit.
Throwing the sledgehammer
the most encouraging thing from this to me is that mint.com put this together. moral of the story: its now becoming profitable to tell the truth about what is going on in the economy. if only we could begin making it unprofitable for politicians to lie to us about the economy then we'd really be getting somewhere.
Retail needed to hire about 80.000 people for their biggest earning
season of the year (after they had fired a lot more this year and they
Once the holiday shopping is over... THANK YOU, AND GOODBYE!
This and the fact that it's just not done to fire people during the
newyear period will give that number a double whammy.
Lets hope gold drops a bit more, and step into sprinters on gold
starting the end of jan.
I think the holiday shopping is pretty much over now...
What's so different this time compared to what's been going on during the Summer with regard to the BLS and their amazing numerical prestidigitation?
The "L" in BLS is a little redundant.
you know how false these numbers are?
earlier today, even cnbc dot com had a headling that said
"Jobs Number: Are they almost too good to be true"
honestly, if there was ever a government agency jumping the phucking shark, this has got to be it.
perhaps bernanke might want to check back on his history to read about what happens when markets are grossly manipulated and mr. efficient market finds out.
and, he will.
and, the dems will blame the repubs.
and, the repubs will blame the dems.
and, the middle class will get phucked again.
and, someone will take home all the money.....
I think many here are missing the point; of course the numbers are fake. But like non-repesentational art, it isn't about the substance, it's about the impression.
And even the impression is false, since those trading on either side of the data simply care not a whit as to the foundation.
Doesn't anyone @ZH get it? If everyone wants to believe, even if their belief is disbelief, then what is to stop them from believing? Who cares if we exist in a hall of mirrors if you know you exist in a hall of mirrors?
This whole notion of efficient markets & effective capital allocation really needs to find its place back in the dorm rooms. The reality is that in a world governed by neo-Keynesian functional finance, substance doesn't matter!
Government fiat will direct capital flows to those sectors by which it has been identified to create the greatest employment. If there are no alternative investment mechanisms, how do you escape? Answer: you don't. You just harp about it at ZH.
Ah yes........an excellent primer on Fabian Socialism. It is here, the Fabians have prevailed.
Can someone post the official numbers from shadowstats? I keep on hearing about some BS number put out by a rogue agency.
Benjamin Disraeli once said there are three types of lies:
Lies, Damned Lies, and BLS Statistics.
I don't know how TrimTabs adjusts the tax receipts data to come up with its figures, but I am suspect of any tax-based figures. I've been a tax jock for ten years and there are too many variables to adjust for in income tax receipts. For example, companies usually pay the employer 401k match in October - this is taxable to the employee so it boosts October receipts with a drop in November. Also, people who make estimated tax payments get the preliminary version of TurboTax in October and can use it to estimate and adjust their estimated taxes for the remainder of the year. I doubt you can accurately adjust out just these two variables and make any clear job loss estimate from tax receipts.
this is brilliant...too perfect not to share. go mint.com!
Lying and Manipulating numbers is exactly what the USSR did, telling everyone how great things were and devaluing their currency up until the day they collapsed...It is this administrations official policy to lie to the American people. they call it Behavioral Economics...
How Obama Is Using the Science of Change –
Time Magazine - http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1889153,00.html
Using Psychology to Save You from Yourselfhttp://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104803094
Behavioral Economics and Obama http://econ4obama.blogspot.com/2008/05/behavioral-economics-and-obama.html
Sunstein to Bring Law & Behavioral Economics to Washingtonhttp://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/01/08/sunstein-to-bring-law-behavioral-economics-to-washington/
"Behavioral economics and Obama" - HAH !!!!!!!!!!! That's like saying Keanu Reeves and Academy Award!
The concept behind behavioral economics is to create incentives for the individual through rewarding economically positive and productive actions, something that this administration does everything but. We all talk about how it transpires in the financial industry on the pages here at ZH, but lets put it in the context of health care. Reform is useless if new policies do not align incentives towards improving the health of the individual, and the economic consequences will be horrific should when that component fails to be included in the final bill.
Here’s a perspective from someone who GETS it:
The reason there's a divergence probably has something to do with this:
"TrimTabs employment analysis, which uses real-time daily income tax deposits from all U.S. taxpayers to compute employment growth, estimated that the U.S. economy shed 255,000 jobs in November."
Their silly little process actually counts the number of people who stop getting income. Our ingenious statistical engineers in the BBSS, I mean BLS, only count how many people have been looking for jobs in recent times and how many people actually have jobs.
The notion that it somehow matters how many people have stopped collecting any form of income aside from tax-exempt welfare is ridiculous.
Biderman isn't the only one who smells a rat. I could almost see Rosie saying to himself "I'm so fucking glad I'm Canadien, eh?" today as I read his letter
As Mish said today, "the Birth/Death numbers (of businesses) remain in deep outer space.
“At this point in the cycle birth death numbers should have been massively contracting for months. The BLS is going to keep adding jobs through the entire recession in a complete display of incompetence.” (From: Jobs Contract 23rd Straight Month; Unemployment Rate Drop to 10.0%)
also from Mish today:
Small Business Owner Confidence Plunges
Although the Fed and most economic forecasters are all looking ahead to the recovery, small business owners do not seem convinced. Please consider Economic Confidence Plunges; Low Expectations for the Holidays.
Economic confidence among America's small business owners plummeted in November, as more owners cited serious concerns about cash flow and saw economic conditions for their own businesses getting worse. The Discover Small Business Watch index fell 12 points in November to 76.5 from 88.5 in October.
· The mood of small business owners generally has soured in November for three straight years, as economic confidence dropped from October to November in 2007 and 2008. The November 2008 index of 67.5 is the low point for the Watch since it started in August 2006.
· 52 percent of owners say they have experienced cash flow issues in the past 90 days, up from 44 percent in October. Forty-one percent of owners say they have not experienced cash flow issues, which is the lowest response in this category since the Watch began. The remaining 6 percent said they weren't sure.
· 53 percent of small business owners see conditions getting worse in the next six months, up from 43 percent in October; while 19 percent report that conditions are improving, a sharp decline from 29 percent in October; 23 percent see conditions as the same, and 5 percent weren't sure.
· 62 percent of small business owners rate the economy as poor, an increase from 55 percent in October; 30 percent rate it as fair, and 8 percent say it is good or excellent.
· 53 percent of small business owners think the overall economy is getting worse, up from 44 percent in October but still significantly lower than the 69 percent of owners who felt that way in February 2009, the last time the Watch index was this low. For November; 28 percent say the economy is getting better, down from 35 percent in October; 16 percent see it staying the same, and 3 percent are not sure.
A majority of small business owners think the economy is getting worse, not better. And if small businesses are not confident, then they are not hiring.
Odds are increasing that Congress will need to pass yet another stimulus package but if so, it will have even less effect than previous ones.
Every stimulus effort shifts demand forward. After enough shifting forward, demand drops to zero.
Mike "Mish" Shedlockhttp://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot
"Throughout the year the animals worked even harder than they had worked in the previous year. To rebuild the windmill, with walls twice as thick as before, and to finish it by the appointed date, together with the regular work of the farm, was a tremendous labour. There were times when it seemed to the animals that they worked longer hours and fed no better than they had done in Jones’s day. On Sunday mornings Squealer, holding down a long strip of paper with his trotter, would read out to them lists of figures proving that the production of every class of foodstuff had increased by two hundred per cent, three hundred per cent, or five hundred per cent, as the case might be. The animals saw no reason to disbelieve him, especially as they could no longer remember very clearly what conditions had been like before the Rebellion. All the same, there were days when they felt that they would sooner have had less figures and more food." - Animal Farm, Chapter 8, Paragraph 2
Well does that not ring a bell? Suggested weekend reading is Animal Farm. I am reading it to my 7 year old and even he is drawing a "WTF" though story with the dissemination of misinformation.
I know it always sounds like carping, but we must keep up the pressure until the sunlight dries up this Bankster and Political slug.
The real solution? Bring back Soylent Green!
What was that saying again? Perception is everything?
BLS doesnt lie only to US citizens ,but to the whole world.
From my perspective, the aim of this new manipulation is to make the US$ temporarly rise : The Obama/Geithner gang are afraid about a too weak US$ for many reasons (Japan/chian could sell their worthless Treasuries, inflation could explode etc).I fully agree with the posts here that its all about perception.
I LOVE THAT VIDEO!
Talking about the psychology of it all...here's a great piece:
Very telling .....Thank You ZH!!! You made my day!!!
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