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Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan Brands Israel Violence As "State Terrorism"
From Reuters:
Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan on Monday accused Israel of state terrorism after Israeli marines stormed a Turkish aid ship bound for Gaza.
"This action, totally contrary to the principles of international law, is inhumane state terrorism. Nobody should think we will keep quiet in the face of this," Erdogan told reporters from Chile, where he was cutting short an official visit to Latin America to deal with the crisis.
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well well, could this be the spark that ignites WW3?
WW3 has been going on for awhile now.
Son; by reading your comments; you are the one that makes most sense today.
+1000000000
wake up Neo...
WW3 has been going on since 2001......rea the following para
"""The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time"....
u can find the whole letter written in 1871 here:
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
I read the Pike letters some years ago and ..... goddamn are they a forgery or are they a forgery. Linguistic constructs that were used in the letters [to denote various structures and action] are not current to the time when said letters were supposedly written. If you observe the chronological range and the content of the letters it is fairly obvious that the "Pike letters" were written ex post factis, probably by some of the members of his lodge, or maybe just as fiction to serve as an argumentative reference. All in all, the letters are forgeries; and bad one at that.
may be we will never know whether the letters are real or fake ....but what i surely believe that Humanity has been the victim of a "Ruthless and Monolithic CONSPIRACY" as JFK put it....in 1961
We are not victims of anything. We create our own troubles.
+1,000
yeah maybe the protocols are a forgery too but it doesn't seem to be stopping them from using it as a game plan anyway.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm
....exactly same things happening in the world as written down in a forged document ....Wow....i dont think so
Dan Rather comes to mind.
I am always talking about the percieved war
This is fucking nuts. We had it telegraphed several days ago. Israel was boxed in. WTF else are they supposed to do? Satan is a master of disguise: Recall who crossed the line in the sand.
The set-up is so obvious.
Why? I've never comprehended animosity toward Israel. If you can make a coherent case, then I am a reason bound mind. What I perceive however is that the Satanic left is playing deadly games.
Explain why I'm wrong?
The zionism!/joooos! knee jerk nutters here are not going to explain why you are wrong.
So far, all I've heard back is that I'm stooopid. Soooo stoopid. HA! HA! HA! and the like. No argument. No reason why they ally themselves with ignorant savages against the one exemplary modern democratic state in the region. The only one where anyone of any religion or gender or um, orientation, can be a citizen, vote, hold office, do business etc on an equal footing. No, for the nutters, Isreal is a fascist @#$*W@ apartheid state bent on evil.
Palestine was stolen by the Balfour Declaration of 1917 and given to the jews as their homeland.
Text of the declaration
The declaration, a typed letter signed in ink by Balfour, reads as follows:
Foreign Office,
November 2nd, 1917.
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country".
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely
Arthur James Balfour
Balfour Declaration II: Russia and China today announced that the lands of England and America will be given to all Arabs as they need a homeland.
Satan is an SS18. One of which is sufficient to utterly remove Israel from the face of the earth.
Just sayin'.
How would Turkey feel if "compassionate" Greeks and their humanitarian friends chartered some nice yachts and sailed into Turkish waters armed and dangerous to liberate their cousins on Imbros and Istanbul ? They would be dispatched by F16's quicker than you could say Galatasaray 3 Olympiakos 0
This flotilla had objectives other than purely altruistic motives. The organisers and their backers were itching for a confrontation. The Israelis were prepared. National sovereignty and maritime borders must be respected. None of the Arab nations batted an eyelid for years over the barrage of rockets falling on the south of Israel. In fact it was more like "Nudge, nudge, wink, wink" in the souks and alleyways of Damascus, Cairo, Beirut et.al. There are a lot of mixed messages coming out of Turkey over the last twelve months. It can be a big player in the Middle East peace game if it plays its shesh-besh correctly. Some recalibration needs to occur pronto.
There will be no Middle East peace until the end of time.
According to Bernard Lewis, The Jews bought the land from the Arab land owners over time.The Balfour Declaration and later the UN made it clear that the new Jewish State could not be had at the expense of the Arabs. So, the Jews continued to buy land from Arab land owners. The workers of those lands felt betrayed, and indeed the old Arab land owners often kept the deals secret until done. These workers had worked the land for generations and were heart broken that they would no longer be able to work it. Some rebelled and some continue to rebel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1917
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine
According to Edward Said, Westerners simply do not understand the culture and the bond to the land the indigenous workers had. Moreover, just because you own the land does not mean you govern it.
After WWI, the British governed it since the former governors of the last 400 years, the Ottoman Empire (Turks) had been allies of Nazi Germany. Britain had made a deal with King Faisal to let him be King of all Arabs for helping out against the Turks. King Faisal and Chaim Weizmann, head of the World Zionist Organisation, signed an agreement for Arab-Jewish cooperation. Under the agreement, Faisal accepts the Balfour Declaration on the "establishment in Palestine of a National Home for the Jewish People" and pledges to "encourage and stimulate immigration of Jews into Palestine on a large scale." In return the rights of Arabs in Palestine will be protected.
However, under a final clause written by Faisal, the agreement is only binding if the Arabs obtain their independence according to the terms agreed during the war. And, the terms were not met, King Faisal was not accepted as king by the other Arabs.
http://www.moreorless.au.com/heroes/faisal.html
Nonetheless,by the Balfour Declaration, the British conveyed the legal right to govern to the new Jewish State, ratified by the UN. There is no better description in how unpopular this was to Transjordan than by King Hussein’s grandfather King Abdullah of Jordan.
http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/kabd_eng.html
So, Israel has property right law and spoils of war law going for it. Palestinians have cultural and moral rights going for it. Most observers acknowledge the need for a two state solution, which ironically, was the original idea, Transjordan became Jordan for the Arabs and Palestine for the Jews. It does not appear to be working.
This is not True. Ottoman Turks have been allies with Germany in WW-I.
But in WW-II New Turkish Republic never joined the war despite numerous pressures by the Germany and stayed neutral and never ever supported Hitler.
You are correct, my bad. All of this original deal making was surrounding WWI. The Ottoman Empire joined the Central Powers to form the Triple Alliance.
Thank you for the correction.
correction:
The Ottoman Empire had been allies of the Central Powers to form the Triple Alliance during WWI.
NATO is saying "Fuck You" to Israel. Good luck with Iran, you fools.
NATO? I see Turkey (ie: The pot) calling the kettle black.
The protesters understood well the political capital of being attacked -- and came ready for a fight.
By paying attention to this "story", we are all manipulated sheep.
Israel is completing its own isolation. Just as the dot gov here in U.S. can be counted on through its current and future excesses to do the resistance's recruiting, Israel is putting the finishing touches on the case for cutting itself off from the international community. It is too easy to see, right or wrong, an International Red Cross aid convoy headed for the Warsaw Ghetto, only to be surrounded, attacked and hijacked by the Wehrmacht or the SS. Israel was presented with an opportunity to fail in a big and public manner, and it has obliged.
It's almost unimaginably stupid, and it seems to indicate a country that has gone mad with paranoia. The fact that shills come here to defend it just confirms this. People: Think, for crying out loud. Apartheid, brutally enforced, is apartheid. Think about an entire culture whose young people genuinely believe that the best use they can make of their young lives is to strap on explosives and blow themselves up. Think about what conditions must be like for them. Think.
I'd say "Israel must be isolated" but it's already happening.
Don't forget what happened at Davos:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/watch-turkey-pm-storms-off-stage-over-peres-remarks-on-gaza-1.267018
Relations aren't exactly stellar and this tragic incident will not help.
Obama still on VACA!
Obama does not run the show anyway. His handlers are still busy busy busy... Obama will be back soon from holiday and say, "So have you guys made up my mind, yet?"
Hell no!
He will say "REPORTING FOR DUTY. SIRS!!"
I mainly post pics today in response to this whole Israel thing. 1 picture =1000 words; and given that I'm not eloquent as it is making my point is so much easier this way.
this is fun....can u explain a bit how to post a picture here...
don't do it
Frigging priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+10000000......
Bravo Cheekster!!! x
If this picture is supposed to express your mindset, it certainly says more than 1000 words.
I'm not surprised, though, that in a blog full with hyperbole and conspiracy theory antisemitic statements are greeted with welcome as well. It fits.
+1. It just goes to show that people can be very smart, very gullible and very stupid, all at the same time.
Any reasonable challenge to Israeli policy/action = anti-semitism.
Fuck that.
Israel behaves like a coward toady w/ their american bodyguard in lockstep behind them.
One of these day, that bodyguard will be absent, and Isreal will have to grapple with real - not imagined - anti-semitism.
Love Lieberman's tie !
luv the pix..tnx Cheeky..
Wow!
Classique!
Awesome:))
This ought to turn out well........;-(
I wonder if those doing Gods work at 33 Liberty will use some downside market action for geopolitical leverage. Playing domestic politics must be boring for those thrill seekers under Lloyd by now. Im sure a member of the Rothschild clan is pulling a string somewhere in conjunction with this right now.
Turkey has every right to retaliate against Israel.
One nuke should clear things out.
It should clear it up yes, but those israeli cats have one more bad ass air force..This is going to get very interesting..
why junk it, fucktards?
Don't like the truth?
What's the truth? That those were 'peace activists'? LOL.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool
I'll never understand why the leaders of America insist on supporting the terrorists overseas (Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc). If the crazies in other parts of the world want to fight, let them do it on their own terms, with their own money and munitions. Fuck em.
Higgins: It's simple economics. Today it's oil, right? In ten or fifteen years, food. Plutonium. Maybe even sooner. Now, what do you think the people are gonna want us to do then?
Joe Turner: Ask them?
Higgins: Not now - then! Ask 'em when they're running out. Ask 'em when there's no heat in their homes and they're cold. Ask 'em when their engines stop. Ask 'em when people who have never known hunger start going hungry. You wanna know something? They won't want us to ask 'em. They'll just want us to get it for 'em!
(Three Days of the Condor)
Lubna Marsawa, Free Gaza’s organizer on the Turkish passenger boat said in outrage, “Very few times in history has a flotilla delivering humanitarian goods been welcomed by military war ships.”
This is a call to the world from the people on the boats. “We are a civilian people doing what our governments have refused to do, challenge Israel’s right to collectively punish 1.5 million Palestinians in Gaza by blockading their right to their own sea. This flotilla is bringing construction and educational supplies the people of Gaza and are being met by Israeli warships.”
Contact: Huwaida Arraf on board the Challenger 0088 216 5207 2093 Ewa Jasciewica on board the Challenger 0088 163 184 7926 Greta Berlin 00 357 99 18 72 75 Mary Hughes 00 357 96 38 38 09 ‘
http://www.juancole.com/
Can anyone even count the number of times arms have been smuggled into Gaza through humanitarian aid shipments?
Seriously people, if you think that Israel's security precautions are baseless, you're willfully ignoring history.
Mongo
We can only hope.
Carlin 'splains it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKboodmEHTQ
Distraction...re-direct attention away from Prize...this is BAD....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU12KW-XyZE
Here's proof of what really happened!!!
I wonder how the US double standards PR machine is gunna spin this.
N Korea blow up a ship - starve the shit out of them
Israel - well, they are afraid of you muslim types, so it's kinda ok
It's not up to the US on the NK issue, that's China's call...
Maybe if they stopped launching rockets over Gaza....
"The Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity"
That's it? That's the limpest dick shit you can scrap up for an alleged civilized country slowly killing people that have the nerve to not want to give up their land freely?
How the fuck is that simple minded shit any different from saying "Maybe if they (American Indians) stopped the raiding parties into white settlements..."
Zionist cretin.
"Their land"? You're kidding, right. News Flash for everyone...Palestine (the country) already exists...it's called Jordan. Gaza belongs to Israel.
Douche bag.
Expect the US press to report the valliant Israel heros intercepting armenments sneaking into the hands of terrorists.
may be they wont report it at all....its much easier that way....n the americans will never find out
Nah, this is a convenient excuse to cut Israel loose.
Eh, who am I kidding, the sitting president wants the lobby money too much.
But, really, I have to question how much money that lobby has left to give? It's always been a little stupid (long term) for a minority to bribe the Federal government so egregiously.
An infinite amount, as long as we keep sending them foreign aide. Undoubtedly, a certain percentage of that foreign aide is channeled back to the lobbyists. So basically, American tax payers give money to Israel, AND they pay Israeli lobbyists to lobby on Israel's behalf to take more money from them.
Oh the American sheeple. Can anyone say "Bahaha...."
Those four subs that left NK a few days ago. What could possibly be their cargo & destination?
If Kim Jong is on his deathbed and simply concerned with his place in history there are any number of potential concerns regarding a man who does not expect to live to see 2011.
1. The oil leak could have given him a blueprint for U.S. economic destruction and any number of deep drillers could be targeted.
2. Attempting to sit offshore of major U.S. cities or Tokyo with nuclear short range missiles or even transforming the subs into a nuclear bomb itself and getting close enough to New York/Washington/London & Tokyo.
3. Completely scare tactics meant to shakedown the nations of the world for more cash so Kim Jong can continue to drink his Hennessey in his underwear along with assuring his son is recognized by the globe as his successor.
i am not an antisemite but i fucking hate Israel
Spent much time there, have you?
no but the bloodthirsty pigs their people vote for are quite convincing
Feel the hatred. Feel it.
This was on the drawing table centuries ago:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm
More turkey double speak. Where is Ataturk when we need him??
"Was he no buried with the Armenians we did kill?"
Oppps!!
Anybody remember the Israeli's strafing and torpedoing the shit out of the USS Liberty for HOURS? Then claiming they had 'no idea' it was a US ship? And US politicos covering it up and silencing the crew? This shit is never ending. Israel and its bankster nobility runs the world. "Mr. President? It's Mr. Rothschild on the phone and boy does he sound angry."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
How quickly you all forget.
Specially on this day.
__________
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
____
"The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli jet fighter planes and motor torpedo boats, on June 8, 1967, during the ongoing Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and a civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.[1]"
I would have thought someone remembered this.
My apologies to Mr. Anonymous.
I has not refreshed the page before posting.
I would say: That's all right... it needs to be emphasized, (especially today..)
I find it hard to believe anyone would 'junk' this post..
Beyond words...
Some do remember. The point is, the US government didn't give a damn about those dead American sailors, not when it came to upsetting the Zionists, what do you think they're gonna do about a few dead Turks? Hey, you wanna make an omelette (or appease your masters), what's a few broken eggs?
International waters, you say?
Nixon defense applies: it's not a crime if Israel does it.
May the LORD of Hosts bless the IDF.
Why would he do that? The final destruction of the Temple in AD70(ish) showed that they were no longer His people. (His blood be upon our heads etc)
Ah the fireworks this will bring!
Bring your picnic chairs, binoculars and cameras, boys and girls!
This will be a fun show to watch.
dummy post
As I write this piece the scale of the Israeli lethal slaughter at sea is yet to be clear. However we already know that at around 4am Gaza time, hundreds of IDF commandos stormed the Free Gaza international humanitarian fleet. We learn from the Arab press that at least 16 peace activists have been murdered and more than 50 were injured. Once again it is devastatingly obvious that Israel is not trying to hide its true nature: an inhuman murderous collective fuelled by a psychosis and driven by paranoia.
For days the Israeli government prepared the Israeli society for the massacre at sea. It said that the Flotilla carried weapons, it had ‘terrorists’ on board. Only yesterday evening it occurred to me that this Israeli malicious media spin was there to prepare the Israeli public for a full scale Israeli deadly military operation in international waters. Make no mistake. If I knew exactly where Israel was heading and the possible
consequences, the Israeli cabinet and military elite were fully aware of it all the way along. What happened yesterday wasn’t just a pirate terrorist attack. It was actually murder in broad day light even though it happened in the dark.
Yesterday at 10 pm I contacted Free Gaza and shared with them everything I knew. I obviously grasped that hundreds of peace activists most of them elders, had very little chance against the Israeli killing machine. I was praying all night for our brothers and sisters. At 5am GMT the news broke to the world. In international waters Israel raided an innocent international convoy of boats carrying cement, paper and medical aid to the besieged Gazans. The Israelis were using live ammunition murdering and injuring everything around them.
Today we will see demonstrations around the world, we will see many events mourning our dead. We may even see some of Israel’s friends ‘posturing’ against the slaughter. Clearly this is not enough.
The massacre that took place yesterday was a premeditated Israeli operation. Israel wanted blood because it believes that its ‘power of deterrence’ expands with the more dead it leaves behind. The Israeli decision to use hundreds of commando soldiers against civilians was taken by the Israeli cabinet together with the Israeli top military commanders. What we saw yesterday wasn’t just a failure on the ground. It was actually an institutional failure of a morbid society that a long time ago lost touch with humanity.
It is no secret that Palestinians are living in a siege for years. But it is now down to the nations to move on and mount the ultimate pressure on Israel and its citizens. Since the massacre yesterday was committed by a popular army that followed instructions given by a ‘democratically elected’ government, from now on, every Israeli should be considered as a suspicious war criminal unless proved different.
Considering the fact that Israel stormed naval vessels sailing under Irish, Turkish and Greek flags. Both NATO members and EU countries must immediately cease their relationships with Israel and close their airspace to Israeli airplanes.
Considering yesterday’s news about Israeli nuclear submarines being stationed in the Gulf, the world must react quickly and severely. Israel is now officially mad and deadly. The Jewish State is not just careless about human life, as we have been following the Israeli press campaign leading to the slaughter, Israel actually seeks pleasure in inflicting pain and devastation on others.
Excactly when did Germany ever build nuclear submarines? They build diesel-electric variants which have been exported to Israel and other countries:
http://www.nti.org/db/submarines/germany/export.html
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/todays-special-turkey-sub-rfi-02088/
I would like to see anyone get confirmation from Israel that said submarines are equipped with "nuclear missiles".
The World Trade Center Attacks were a massacre.
This boating altercation had a lost of life equivalent to about one Palestinian blowing him/herself up on a bus in Jeruselum. Those bombs are typically studded with nails, shot, and other piercing objects, themselves covered in dirt, feces, and various poisions for maximum killing, maiming and infection.
Not that any of it is good. Heck Obama let Navy Seal Snipers pick off three "pirates" not long into office, and routinely has the Predator Drones shoot missiles into all sorts of villages and gatherings in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
But pick on the Jews, it's the easy thing to do.
I'm sorry, but I can't resist:
Shut your Yap, Yip!!!
State sponsored terrorism by Israel.... NEVER. The nation has been conducting it since the 1930's with the aid of the Stern Gang and Irgun, the pre-eminent terrorist factions of their day, so why stop now.
Of course though the boats were full of "al-Qaeda" members, and an al-Qaeda Nobel Laureate.
For those that support Zionism to the core without reproach, I hope they bankrupt your nations... oops too late. I wonder what all the Christian Zionist evangelicals will say when their flocks ask them why they're a bankrupt 3rd World country, especially having supported Israel for so long without question??
Optimistic Israelis learn English; pessimistic Israelis learn Arabic and realistic Israelis learn how to swim. Time to short Apartheid Palestine.
I'm amazed at the defenders of the muslim barbarians. Israel is the gate, it falls, the West burns. Millions die.
That is absurd. Israel is a strip of land in the Middle East. It means nothing to the West. It didn't 1,000 years ago, and it won't 1,000 years from now. Nothing but idiots fighting over desert and killing each other over their respective Gods.
Jesus Tyler what is it with you and Israel? How many stories about the Israelis boarding a stupid boat are you going to publish in a day? There a 3 young Americans starving to death in an Iranian jail as we speak. Where are their three stories? How about Iran's made dash to make nuclear weapons? North Koreas threatening to overrun South Korea and the 40,000 US solders stationed there?
Between this story and your obsession with Goldman Sachs I'm starting to think you're anti-Semetic. Do you have any idea how may public and private and government players there are in the world of internation finance that function similarly to Goldman Sachs?
Wake up and smell the coffee man.
And did you shed a tear for the sailors' of the U.S.S Liberty today?