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Two Of Three Power Systems Out At TEPCO Onagawa Plant

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More bad news for TEPCO. Just out from NHK: Two of three power systems out at TEPCO Onagawa plant. Hopefully this means the plant still has power. More as we see it.

File:Onagawa Nuclear Power Plant.jpg

From Wikipedia:

The Onagawa Nuclear Power Plant is a nuclear power plant located on a 1,730,000 m2 (432 acres) site[1] in Onagawa in the Oshika District and Ishinomaki city, Miyagi Prefecture, Japan. It is managed by the Tohoku Electric Power Company. It was the most quickly constructed nuclear power plant in the world.[citation needed]

The Onagawa-3 unit was used as a prototype for the Higashidori Nuclear Power Plant.[citation needed]

The plant conforms fully to ISO 14001,
a set of international environmental management standards. The plant's
waste heat water leaves 7 degrees Celsius higher than it came in and is
released 10 meters under the surface of the water, in order to reduce
adverse effects on the environment.[citation needed]

All the reactors were constructed by Toshiba.[2]

Unit 1

Since November 11, 2006 this unit has been shut down due to the result of a test.[citation needed]

Unit 2

  • May 2006 it was confirmed that a pipe was leaking due to debris damage.
  • June 7, 2006 Difficulties with pressure control prompted further inspections.
  • July 7, 2006 METI and the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency determined that the plant's performance was not satisfactory.[citation needed]

Unit 3

  • July 7, 2006 Due to pipe integrity concerns the reactor was shut down.
  • November 25, 2006 Following repairs the reactor was restarted.
  • March 11, 2011 2011 T?hoku earthquake damaged the turbines after a fire broke out and was shut down.
 


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Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:26 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Ain't bad, bitchezzz!!!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:31 | Link to Comment Clueless Economist
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We need to send a few thousand Keynsian Economists to help out Japan.  Doing things like cleaning up the reactors and manning the beaches watching for radioactive tsunamis.

Just keep them away from economic decisions.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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peachy, just fuckin peachy...

I wonder if it will blow up before or after sunset...

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 20:13 | Link to Comment AnonymousAnarchist
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Looks like something already blew up.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:33 | Link to Comment SmittyinLA
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They can stuff them in those leaky cracks too.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:01 | Link to Comment NYPoke
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Obviously, the solution to a leaking core at a nuclear reactor is to create more uranium.  More uranium will produce more heat.  More heat will produce more electricity.  You can use the extra electricity to cool the damaged reactor.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 16:48 | Link to Comment spdrdr
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Alternatively, you can extrapolate the odds of a tsunami in your risk analysis. A  sufficiently large earthquake to rupture a containment chamber or used rod pool will cause a tsunami of such magnitude as to cool the fuel exposed.

See?  No problem!

 

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:44 | Link to Comment covert
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proof over and over that the japs are incompetant!

http://covert2.wordpress.com

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:01 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Nah, no way. I'm not having that, the Japs, no way.

They build Toyota's and they're supremely reliable.

I know a guy who had one once...

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:05 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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surely they can find some power in a power station for christ's sake...

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:15 | Link to Comment MSimon
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It is worse. Few Deaths From Chernobyl is a lie.

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2011/04/lies-of-chernobyl.html

Japan is riding a similar trajectory.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:17 | Link to Comment kinetik
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Not according to Monbiot.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:26 | Link to Comment roymunnson
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no worries I'm sure they have at least 30 minutes of battery power.

 

Its just a nuclear power plant... relax

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:37 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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The fastest one ever built, to boot!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:02 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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battery power, do you mean AAA's?

I thought that was just their Fitch and Moody's rating....

Silly me...

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:28 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Shiit

Maybe it's time for Japan to throw in the towel on the nuke plants

Enough is enough

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:28 | Link to Comment jus_lite_reading
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one is working... say its enough for now! WHOA!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:37 | Link to Comment Drag Racer
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NHK just reported the 2 lines that went down were not in use as the plant has been shut down since the big quake.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:29 | Link to Comment kengland
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What's the bid deal? Market to close green. That's all I care about. Humans? what humans

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:31 | Link to Comment Robot Traders Mom
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Engineers now evacuated means the threat of a tsunami is more dangerous to them than the radiation...

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:33 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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I just looked at it in Google Earth, and luckily there is a finger of land in between the plant and the epicenters of the two quakes, which were about 12.5 and 30 mi. away.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 22:45 | Link to Comment Diogenes
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Engineers now evacuated, you mean in their pants?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:32 | Link to Comment sabra1
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Veracruz, Mexico had a 6.5 couple of hours ago!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:34 | Link to Comment Cdad
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Don't worry!  Tyler Mathisen and Scott Wapner have assured everyone that everything is fine.  "All clear."  

And if they are wrong, everyone knows that all E. Burnett has to do is come on and be adorable, and PEs everywhere will be saved.  

For those of you still confused, please listen to Sharon Eperson, whose response to all this earthquake nonsense is to simply direct your attention to the Middle East.  Apparently, she believes this is more comforting for morons who have bought stock from bankers and brokers who are bordering on declaring their undying love to Ben Bernanke and his New American Marxist/Banker party.  Stick with the bankers, boys!  They will always lead YOU to prosperity.

[/sarc off....Oh and...Fuck you, Gordon Charlop!  Fucking ass clown!  And fuck you Steve Liesman, as well!]

We now resume your regularly scheduled Marxist TV programing.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:34 | Link to Comment Paul Bogdanich
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I understand that it is Zero Hedge's job to be, shall we say, ever vigilant but this is too much.  I they lost yet another complex as the result of a relatively minor (compared to the main quaake) follow on earthquake the industry could kiss itself goodbye as that would basically show that the plants are not safe.   

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:10 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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I believe they already have...

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:34 | Link to Comment Paul Bogdanich
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I understand that it is Zero Hedge's job to be, shall we say, ever vigilant but this is too much.  I they lost yet another complex as the result of a relatively minor (compared to the main quaake) follow on earthquake the industry could kiss itself goodbye as that would basically show that the plants are not safe.   

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:34 | Link to Comment Broder_Tuck
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of course very bullish, there could have been more plants experiencing problems.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:33 | Link to Comment virgilcaine
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Nitemare nuclear island!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:11 | Link to Comment FIAT_FixItAgainTony
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agreed virgil.  the problems there also affect everyone in some way even though they do not live there or near there.  what a custerfuk!

btw nice avatar.  i hadn't noticed the resemblance before!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:33 | Link to Comment bonddude
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"I fell into a burnin' ring of fire..."

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:35 | Link to Comment ss123
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There was, I believe, a USGS guy that said right after the 9.0 hit that there was _guarenteed_ to be a 7+ magnitude within a couple weeks.

Looks like he was right.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Clueless Economist
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Hey pal, we economists get it right once in awhile, yet we get no praise.

I love Lord Keynes

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:27 | Link to Comment MSimon
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:09 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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I predict it will either rain or go dark tonight...

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:36 | Link to Comment TheEternalTriangle
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Err, what you linked shows the first two units were shut down in 2006?

They did have to also shut down the last unit straight after the earthquake but nothing in there about there having been issues with the shutdown itself?

Yeah that they had to shut down all three 5 years ago due to failed inspections, security concerns and mishaps shows up how TEPCO isn't the most competent operator out there. Nothing quoted shows an immediate crisis.

I'm more worried about the latest earthquake making Fukushima Daichii even more unstable.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Cdad
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EternalTriangle,

Please direct your attention to the unicorns out in the field.  You'll feel better.  Then you can buy some Lulu Lemon and the world will be right again.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.  After all, valuations, by any historical metric, are cheap.  And we all know the economic power of self-involved American yoga queens.  More powerful than fission...I think we can all agree.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:49 | Link to Comment MSimon
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More like:

If you are not part of the solution you are smarter than the average bear.

 

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:58 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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They did have to also shut down the last unit straight after the earthquake but nothing in there about there having been issues with the shutdown itself?

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'Cold Shutdown' at Onagawa from previous event (EQ and TS) was uneventful (i.e. successfully accomplished), therefore, no 'bleeding' headlines like for Fukushima I ... Fukushima I experienced a 'station blackout' event as a result of the Tsunami and resulted in the catastrophe currently playing out there ...

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Dagny Taggart
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TEPCO says no irregularities at Fukushima plant (per Reuters) ...lost in translation?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:48 | Link to Comment Note to self
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I would guess the Japanese spokesman chose a different word than "irregularities", tending to avoid that complex of mixture of "r"s and "l"s.  But still - nothing unsual except secret, random, exposed re-criticality events.  

This exhibit is closed.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:48 | Link to Comment A Man without Q...
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no irregularities is the Japanese equivalent for SNAFU...

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Ruffcut
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So how much of their power generation is offline?

The country can't rebuild without consistent power.

Is korea going to run an extension cord to get them back into the mix?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:55 | Link to Comment Drag Racer
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you also need to take into account thier demand is down as well. Several cities are just gone. But from what I have seen/read, Tepco is 15% undersupplied at the moment.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:50 | Link to Comment TheEternalTriangle
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Yup, things are just not looking good business wise. Rolling blackout are having a big effect and the government is asking industry to cut its electricity use by 25%. Not easy...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870328090457624668294829413...

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/05/japan.blackout.blues/

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:37 | Link to Comment Fantasy Planet
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Da Pain!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:23 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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That's right, little Tattoo.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:38 | Link to Comment ss123
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CNBC Headline: Japan's Earthquake Downgraded to 7.1; Markets Recover Slightly (Click for More)

 

Looks like this was better than expected.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:42 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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By the time the headline hit, the markets were lower heh.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:55 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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By the time the headline hit, the markets were lower heh.

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To be that good, you have to front run the USGS ...

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:49 | Link to Comment MSimon
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BTFD

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:01 | Link to Comment tinsmith
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BTT = Buy The Tremors

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Josh Randall
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Liesman's lunch is more important than this, don't let bad news stand between a man and his Shoney's buffet

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:49 | Link to Comment digitlman
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Good news! Sure, a lot of people were probably killed, but the market is going back up! Huzzah!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:39 | Link to Comment Tell me lies
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My God, what did these people do to deserve this! Nothing like kicking a dog when their down!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:42 | Link to Comment ss123
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Pure physics. That's all.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:48 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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There was that Rape of Nanking thing...

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

...but I don't believe in karma.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:48 | Link to Comment Tell me lies
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Just saying that the ring of fire is blow torching this place.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:46 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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Built nuclear reactors next to the ocean on an active fault line, failed to have adequate back-up plans to eliminate or even materially alleviate damage to the reactors, and allowed both private companies and the government enough leeway to control information relating to the health and welfare of the citizenry?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:55 | Link to Comment LFMayor
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They've come a long way, haven't they?  Just think, 60 or so years ago these servile people were worshipping a man they'd never seen as a deity and willingly immolating themselves in a futile struggle.

Now they produce the best vomit pron to be had.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:28 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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tubgirl and yatta ftw.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:22 | Link to Comment Muir
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"My God, what did these people do to deserve this! Nothing like kicking a dog when their down!"

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Deserve's got nothin' to do with it. [aims gun] 

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On the other hand, just in case you were not joking and are educationally challenged, I suggest you give a cursory look at Japanese atrocities against US soldiers, Chinese citizens and just about everyone else.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:35 | Link to Comment Tell me lies
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You are a stupid F=ck. And no i was not joking, just trying to be human. You want to talk about atrocities then spell them all out and not parse the ones you like asshole. Must be a Fox newser. I'm sure you heard of the the A bombs we dumped on that country and I'm sure you heard of Pol Pot and Stalin also. Let me throw in a little Hitler too.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Muir
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You poor, poor, dear.

Here is how you do it.

type "google" in your browser.

This is a search engine.

It looks up stuff.

Next.

Under "search" type wiki.

This is an Internet encyclopedia (a sort of collection of articles)

Next.

Type "Japanese" and "atrocities."

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Most important: do not be discouraged, I'm sure you'll get the hang of it!

Good luck!

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:59 | Link to Comment Tell me lies
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Sorry teacher I just did atricities in general. is that ok? Was I just supposed to do Jap ones.............. and they deserve it because what?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Muir
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#1145632

Deserve's got nothin' to do with it. [aims gun] 

 

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you can google that too.

(I know you can)

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 17:59 | Link to Comment h3m1ngw4y
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dumb as hell. nobody deserves this. and even dumber, because you dont realize this

affects your life soon enough. OMG

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:02 | Link to Comment Tell me lies
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Sorry teacher I just did atricities in general. is that ok? Was I just supposed to do Jap ones.............. and they deserve it because what?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:32 | Link to Comment junkacc
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So when will the US get its comuppance for Native American genocide?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:04 | Link to Comment DrLamer
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Computer/robot idolatry.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:46 | Link to Comment kito
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public service announcement. im a fairly new reader to this site. i have already found it to be indispensible. i find myself hooked! i also just donated. so to everyone who uses this site but hasnt shelled out a couple of bucks, please do so to ensure the truth remains available to us. remember this isnt npr, the gov't is not paying the tab

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:02 | Link to Comment Ms. Erable
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I tried to donate, but silver Eagles won't fit in my CD drive. Wanted to donate something of actual value to keep the site going, you see...

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:24 | Link to Comment Muir
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Well I'm not new to the site.

And I suggest that you keep your views on NPR to yourself and spare us.

And yes, I did buy a t-shirt.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:27 | Link to Comment Bad Asset
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i click on ads daily.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:52 | Link to Comment MSimon
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I'm a little light in the wallet but I have a moderately popular www site so I give links.

 

How popular? Type  M. Simon into Google.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:47 | Link to Comment dogismyth
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Northern Japan will be underwater some day soon.  You think we have problems now....just wait when the peripheral shelf collapses. 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:22 | Link to Comment Herman Strandsc...
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Richard Branson is winning the race to the bottom of the oceans.

http://www.virginoceanic.com/ 

Beaches.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:54 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Tohoku Electric, not TEPCO :*)

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 16:05 | Link to Comment Commander Cody
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You must be in the biz Jim.  I see facts from you and not speculation, innuendo or plain bullshit.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 16:08 | Link to Comment Commander Cody
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Oh, by the way: Tyler, are you going to correct the title or what?  Bueller?  Bueller?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:56 | Link to Comment Herman Strandsc...
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I cannot believe how the Japanese could build nuclear plants upon a seismic zone. They've known about earthquakes for years and that is why they have those rice paper walls in their homes-for safety. So if they fall over they don't hurt much. Apparently.

It's like building an asthma clinic on top of an active volcano!

herman Strand Schnecke.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:58 | Link to Comment LFMayor
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probably because they've got no fucking land that's not in a seismic zone. They were working to correct that midway through the last century, but then this thing called Midway happened and it all fell through.

Anyway, the ROI was too great.  What are people risked when compared to the almighty dollar, or yen?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:08 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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But did they have to put it next to the ocean? In the land that invented the word tsunami?

Fucking idiots. No wonder they lost ww2. Their codes were easy to break too. I guess this is what happens when you think you are superior to all other races. You overestimate your capabilities.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:15 | Link to Comment LFMayor
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you won't be talking that blasphemous shit when Space Battleship Yamato warms up the wave undulation gun on your punk ass. /sarc off.

I'm dating myself but the old school anime was the bomb.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 22:11 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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We need Astro Boy, like yesterday even!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:35 | Link to Comment TheEternalTriangle
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Well, they're built next to the ocean for the same reason Nuclear Plants elsewhere are built next to large bodies of water. They need to be for cooling purposes. Still doesn't make it very sensible in a Tsunami prone earthquake zone but considering their situation their options were limited.

We all know what happened the last time Japan tried to secure it's own supply of fossile fuel US style...

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 18:01 | Link to Comment h3m1ngw4y
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lol how funny. like you overestimate your capabilities of logic at the moment.

which country exactly overestimates its capabilities at the moment. sure not the japanese. perhaps the states? who exactly is the idiot now?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:54 | Link to Comment New American Re...
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My left handed little brother rather astutely pointed out that while all corners of the Pacific Rim have experienced major earthquakes in the last year, the North American Continent has been given a pass,... at least until this morning when Mexico City got a little ride.   

The obvious point being is that having witnessed everything else shift, its logically our turn.

Seat belt, batteries, water, C-rations, silver: check, check, check, check, CHECK.

In the immortal words of "W", "Bring it on!"

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:03 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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You, my good man, are guilty of gambler's fallacy.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:51 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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like that big titted blonde in the sparkling dress rolled 11, three times in a row...  SHE HAS TO ROLL SOMETHING DIFFERENT THIS TIME!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:55 | Link to Comment nkktwotwozero
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Not TEPCO -- Tohoku Electric Power --

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:56 | Link to Comment SRSrocco
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Unfortunately Japan's back is broken.  This makes a bad situation worse.  According to Mike Ruppert on Collapsenet, Japan has lost upwards of 19 gigawatts of electricity.

The breakdown in the global supply chain system will pick up speed in the next several weeks.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:09 | Link to Comment Herman Strandsc...
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I read in the media that Nissan in UK have stopped and so Toyota and Honda in Uk also have supply issues from back home in Japan.

I always thought they got their electric locally?

Anyway, it's not good.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:04 | Link to Comment dogismyth
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But of course we will rally, because we are not affiliated in any way with Japan and the tenet of global business has been a lie.  At least until we get to the point where the big money can dump their shares.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:29 | Link to Comment Larry Darrell
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" At least until we get to the point where the big money can dump their shares."

 

That's the real beauty of watching this fraudulent POS they call a "market."

They've been trying to find bagholders, but they can't.  Most people have zero money left to purchase so they can dump their shares, and the ones that do have figured out that the game is rigged.  So they CAN'T dump their shares.

It's fucking hilarious to watch if you have nothing at stake in their paper ponzi wonderland.

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 22:14 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Yup, munch some popcorn while waiting for the HFT robots ti figure out improved ways to yank everyone's chain(s)!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:03 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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Where is the real Harry Wanger?

I miss him.

I want to have his baby.

Come back, Harry!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:06 | Link to Comment TSA gropee
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EPA to up PAG limits for allowable exposure levels. Interesting timing.

http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=1325

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:05 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
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The Japanese can't catch a break, poor bastards. Unfortunately, they seem afflicted with the same non-leadership disease as the rest of the people.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:06 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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Gojira! Gojira!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:10 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Tsunami warning lifted.  Haven't seen any waves on TV.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:11 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Power outage at nuclear reprocessing facility elsewhere in region.  Emergency power from backup generation.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:22 | Link to Comment mick_richfield
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Um...that's not good.  I believe I heard about that facility earlier in the crisis, and there was a large amount of spent fuel there.   Like ... similar to Fuku.  3000 tons? 

Is it Rokkasho?

 

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:11 | Link to Comment solidsteele
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YOU WILL BUY OIL, YOU WILL BUY COAL - Lather Rinse Repeat!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:27 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:12 | Link to Comment Eureka Springs
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DOn't worry, hundreds of talking heads will soon assure you how safe nuclear disasters are... and will not remind you over a 100 million Americans live within 50 miles of a nuke plant... Many of which are in any number of dangerous situations, including on or near major fault lines.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:43 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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47 mi. myself. Upwind 98% of the time.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:15 | Link to Comment ivars
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I predicted this quake, perhaps more to come, here, on March 27th:

http://saposjoint.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=1245&start=1040#p31381

It can also be just a forteshock for few more powerful quakes within a week ( M7-8,5)

 

 

 

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 16:40 | Link to Comment anonnn
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You talkin' Nibiru and ELEnin?...trumps Fukushima.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:14 | Link to Comment brian downunder
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After reading about the Tofu Electric companys handling of the Fuckyousushi plant, you come to the conclusion that the Japs must be pretty stupid to let this even happen.

And then I read about Californias Diablo Canyon Project - OMG.

check it out here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_Canyon_Power_Plant

Are there really that many stupid people?

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Matte_Black
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The answer is yes. For many, the most stunning revelelation that emerges when they begin to study the systemic collapse now taking place is just how fucking stupid all the 'smart' guys turned out to be.

They aren't just evil, greedy, narcissistic - they are fucking stupid.

Go figure. 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:16 | Link to Comment Pappa
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Just print some money to get rid off that radioactivity. Maybe tons of paper money help protecting against gamma rays?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:19 | Link to Comment solidsteele
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Did you know that prairie dogs are capable of producing geothermal vacuum

systems that pose no threat to their societies.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:34 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Did you know that humans are capable of producing lead delivery systems that pose a real threat to prairie dogs' societies?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw1X-oy1ZSY

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Matte_Black
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Did you know the Fed is capable of producing paper delivery systems capable of exponentially increasing the sales and proliferation of lead delivery systems?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:42 | Link to Comment 252sparky
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So I can press my junk into a prairie dog hole and be rewarded?

That's innovation.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 22:16 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Careful there, pardner!  Prairie Dogs are rodents (and they have sharp claws too!)

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:30 | Link to Comment Janeroo
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Onagawa Nuclear Power Station

 

INTERESTING COUNTERMEASURES:

 

Cooling seawater, after passing through the main condenser, is discharged into the sea as thermal effluents about 7°C warmer than ambient water at the outlet. An underwater outlet, about 10 meters below the surface, is used for discharging thermal effluents to reduce their influence on the ecosystem of the neighboring sea area.

 

http://www.tohoku-epco.co.jp/electr/genshi/npi/onag-e.htm

 

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:50 | Link to Comment franzpick
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The remote-operated 72' German-made Putzmeister concrete crane from the U.S. MOX field in S. Carolina  is scheduled to leave Atlanta tomorrow Friday aboard an Antonov 225 for Tokyo, with 4 other 60'+ pumpers arriving at Fukushima from other locations.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-02/world/japan.nuclear.cement.pumper_1_putzmeister-new-pumps-savannah-river?_s=PM:WORLD

The crane must not be radioactive or the Antonov would not have been allowed to make the flight.  Other equipment used in nuclear disaster sites, like these Russian aircraft, ships and machinery contaminated in the Chernobyl coverup, made one-way trips to boneyards like these:

http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/14633 and

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&om=1&ie=UTF8&ll=51.284333,30.213743&spn=0.003255,0.009248&z=17

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:11 | Link to Comment Note to self
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"Putzmeister".  Ya just can' make this shit up.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 17:00 | Link to Comment Broker NotBroke
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my thoughts as well...are they serious?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:44 | Link to Comment DrLamer
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True.

I lived in Kiev in April 1986, and I have once visited Chernobyl within a month after The Event. I personally have seen those "boneyards" (actually there are at least a dosen of them). I have to say that the view of those huge silent "boneyards" with dumped beast cars and choppers was the most impressive from all I have seen in Chernobyl.

The pics (photos are not so impressive as live view):

http://www.foxbat.ru/maks/chernobil/chernobil_1.htm

http://www.foxbat.ru/maks/chernobil/chernobil_2.htm

http://pripyat.com/ru/photo_gallery/chernobyl/5/1631.html

http://smotra.ru/users/maxim_dtm/blog/63489/

http://altfast.ru/1000034619-kladbishhe-texniki-v-chernobyle.html

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:45 | Link to Comment whoopsing
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it's a one way ticket for that machine, now they need about another hundred or so ,plus material to feed them (after cooling operation's) I dunno

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 16:44 | Link to Comment anonnn
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72 meters...?! =>200"...and truck-mounted portable, to boot.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:25 | Link to Comment bartenbach98
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Dunno why we're all worried, just add water! The Gov guy says so:"...dilution (Pacific) will ensure no health hazard!

Too much alcohol? - just add water! Too much airborne - wind'll take care of it!

Lets dilute everything!

PS: Anyone know what makes Bull**** taste ok?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:31 | Link to Comment Incubus
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Anyone know what makes Bull**** taste ok?

dilute it in water?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 15:42 | Link to Comment primalplasma
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Jalepenos.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:51 | Link to Comment Lapri
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But wait, there's more. Other nuke plants are down in Tohoku, because of the aftershock. The scariest, to me, is the reprocessing plant in Aomori, with capacity of 800 tons of uranium. It's been stopped.

for more, see my blog;

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/04/m71-or-74-aftershock-and-status-of-nu...

and

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/04/m71-earthquake-off-sendai-japan-at.html

I put the links to the other power plants info (wiki).

 

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 16:33 | Link to Comment davepowers
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I really appreciate having your blog around for constantly updated info in a largely info free zone of modern media.

Thanks!

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:08 | Link to Comment Youri Carma
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Two 7.4 Japan Earthquakes April 7 2011 with a STRANGE BLUE FLASH Tsunami warning http://youtu.be/YF-8dqwxAHw

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 17:15 | Link to Comment primalplasma
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I saw that flash. What the hell was that?!? It looked like some sort of explosion or something. Almost like the nuclear explosion that the Predator monster set off on Arnold Schwarzenneger at the end of Predator.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 22:14 | Link to Comment Element
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Sshhh! ... that was HAARP ... /sarc <wink>

 

Earthquake lights are a well known and widely reported phenomena (which was treated sceptically for a long time). When you squeeze or stress crystals electrons come out of them as the imparted energy turns into electrons.

All rocks are 100% crystals of minerals.

Shake them or squeeze them, or directionally stress them, and electrons come out proportional to the imparted energy.

Do it to enough of them, at night, and you >may< see electrical discharge flashing - earthquake lights.

This has been replicated in lab experiment via firing projectiles at rocks to shock them (make micro quake waves in them), to record their electrical flash emissions.

And as it turned out, they sparkle and glow when you do that.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:46 | Link to Comment benburnyanki
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shit they could just whip a goddamn tesla coil on top of any high tower and presto and fiddlesticks , they would have them 1 terawatt of power, but noooooooooo JPMoron sued Tesla and he lost the plans to the CIA in 1943...

Tesla had given us free electricity. 5 terawatt Hours per hour of pure electricity is floating right over our heads and we use exactly Zero Hedge fucking Watts of it? ARE WE ALL STUPID FUKIN SHEEP FOR LETTING THE EXPERTS TELL US IF WE USE FREE ELECTRICITY IT MIGHT KILL US?

There are 16,000,000 or 1.6 X 10^7 lightning bolts hitting ground a year on planet.

The APP or Average Peak Power of a single lightning bolt is 1 Terawatt or 10^12 Watts = 1,000,000,000,000 Watts but since a bolt takes 1 second we just round this to 1 Terawatt second as power is measured in watt hours.

So we multiply Watts Seconds X Strikes per year to get total Watt Seconds per year which is:

(1.6 X 10^7) X (1 X 10^12) = 1.6 X 10^19 = 16,000,000,000,000,000,000 watt seconds per year.

Now we divide number of seonds in hour into annual watt seconds to get annual watt hours:

(1.6 X 10^19) / (3.6 X 10^2) = 4.4 X 10^16 = 44,000,000,000,000,000 annual watt hours

Then we get hours in a year which is 24 X 365 = 8760.

Now divide annual watt hours by hours per year to get watts hours per hour:

(4.4 X 10^16) / (8.760 X 10^3) = 5 X 10^12 = 5,000,000,000,000 Watt Hours Per Hour or 5 Terawatt Hours per Hour of potential power.

The entire electric generation of the planet earth is only around 10+ terawatt hours and I just showed we got lightning running at idle at no load burning 5 terawatt hours per hour. If we load the thing we may even reduce dangerous lightning strikes that kills people right and left and maybe get 20 tera watt hours per hour out of her captain.

Every single major Industrial Revolution cornerstone in Electricity and Magnetism was invented by Tesla:

  1. AC Electricity Tesla Invented to Tom Edison's horror and arguement since it made Edison look like a hobbiest.
  2. Brushless Electric Motors. Edison only had US powered on DC brushed motors that always needed new brushes. Oh and DC cannot be sent more than one mile by wire before it looses all power!!!
  3. Radio. No Marconi was sued and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Tesla Invented THE RADIO!!!
  4. FREE ELECTRICITY: Tesla had a huge tower and a big copper coil on it that could pull electricity out of thin air. It blew the westinghouse generators at the main power co's gen houses. Tesla had to go rewind all the copper in the gens. But since Tesla invented the AC gens in the first place, he had little trouble complying.
  5. NEON Lights
  6. RADAR
  7. Vacuume Tubes
  8. TV Tubes
  9. ROBOTS
  10. and 'drum roll' the infamous Number Ten is actually his most important: THE TESLA COIL!!!!!! HELL EVERY CAR IN THE WORLD USES HIS TESLA COIL TO FIRE THE PLUGS. Except of course for a diesel which only uses a glow plug and only at startup until diesel ignition occurs due merely to heat and compression mixed with of course fuel and oxygen.

MOST DANGEROUS EXPERTS EVER ARE LAWwomen. FBI is full of 'EXPERTS' that will save you from any crime some CIA Coke Toten Black Boy might be pullin, but the Rusky Mafiya scares the chickenshit pigs so much they run from the fuckers, or even scarier, do dirtywork for the fukers personally. Who gonna pull over a cop car runnin dope?

book link: http://robert-friedman-red-mafiya.blogspot.com/

lets see this proves amazon.com,ebay.com,google.com and facebook.com is run by Jew Mafiya if this book had to be given away.

What is real scarey, is how fukin worthless this proves all the NSA wiretapping our asses has been for the last 30 years. This kinda even implicates the USA intel agencies as being in on the take maybe by kikbaks and so the USAF can corner the Afghan heroin runs without gettin kilt by Mafiya. nsa must be usin wiretaps to get ones who see what they a doin' eh? We used to call this the fookin Stasi but now NSA=Stasi. How's that for an equasion fukin Einstein?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 19:12 | Link to Comment Clycntct
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Good stuff!

I see the junk and think an agent didn't like to be exposed.

NSA=Stasi

Or maybe Jack Welch didn't like the thought of free electricity and put a minus energy on you.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:21 | Link to Comment Incubus
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Won't be another repeat of Fukushima. 

I'm sure there's been considerable numbers of 7.0+ earthquakes since these plants have been built. 

So, this is a nonevent. 

If you want to make is a real disaster event, go stir up some tsunamis out in the pacific.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 14:56 | Link to Comment Stormdancer
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I sure hope your optimism proves warranted. 

Fukushima is about 105km from the epicenter of this latest quake.

The quake is of similar magnitude to the 1989 Loma Prieta quake in California

About 100km from the epicenter of the Loma Prieta quake, the tremblor still had enough energy to collapse the Bay Bridge, killing several.

One ZeroHedge observer has already commented on the likely fate of the Putzmeister concrete pump sitting beside reactor four with it's boom extended 70 meters in the air.  I suspect that is now a twisted mass of scrap metal, with implications for the future of the SFP in reactor 4.

There are masses of weakened remnants of previous explosions hanging above two of the Fukushima reactors.  Well, probably not quite as much now.

We've had so many major quakes lately a 7.1 is beginning to sound a bit routine....but it's not.  That's a MAJOR quake.

 

As I said, I hope your optimism proves valid.  I don't share it.  Time will tell.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 21:20 | Link to Comment Element
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Pour 100 toothpicks (fuel and control rods) into a tumbler glass then half-fill glass with icecream, and pour 1cm or honey and 1cm of custard on top of this. Cover with cling-wrap and seal with rubber band

Let ice-cream melt ~50%

shake well for 30 seconds

Then allow to sit for an hour.

See the problem now?

If the reactor fuel was not already severely damaged, then yes, a 7.4 Mag quake would probably not have been a problem.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 15:04 | Link to Comment Lapri
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Rokkasho Reprecessing Plant in Aomori, with power shut down after the aftershock and operating on emergency diesel generators, has 3,258 tons of spent fuel on site.

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/04/more-on-rokkasho-reprocessing-plant-i...

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 15:59 | Link to Comment Stormdancer
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Lapri I wanted to take a moment to express my appreciation for the work you're doing on that blog.

Translating those Japanese language reports must be a bit time consuming, but you're providing both information and insight I haven't seen anywhere else.

EX-SKF has become a regular stop for me.

 

Domo Arigato :)  (If the spelling is wrong...please hear my heart :))

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 15:09 | Link to Comment bamf1411
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Having built Hanford #2 and worked at #1 and #3, FFTF (Fast Flux Test Facility) FMEF (Flux Metal Examination Facility), 100N, Trojan and a few others, the factors that can kill us all can easily overcome any safety precaution in this entire industry.  The land mass that is japan is begging for a complete annihilation of itself.  Absolute idiocy.  If this isn't a common sense warning to any idiot with half a brain, I don't know what is.  If anything can go wrong it will, if the weakest link in the chain with enough stress is pulled it will break.  I keep wondering when are the citizens of this planet gonna kill all the politicians?  I guess the answer is when there is nothing left to eat.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 15:21 | Link to Comment bamf1411
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Having built Hanford #2, and having worked on a few others, with all the things that go wrong any idiot with half a brain and no vested interest of course, would shove his head where the sun don't shine before building the most dangerous complicated technology on the most unstable island in the world.  If any thing can go wrong it will, it has. I know that I want informed bankers, accountants, attorney's, politicians etc., who have no technical background, no military background, and have spent most of their lives soaking mommy and daddy's bank account for their superior college education, running the country and the war machine. I keep wondering when the joe the plumber types, well maybe not them, but when are the citizens of the western world going to rise up and kill all the politicians, maybe the answer is when there is nothing left to eat.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 15:57 | Link to Comment Stormdancer
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Sunrise at Fukushima in about a half an hour.  We'll see how quickly we get pictures to compare ....should be an interesting exercise.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 15:58 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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NHK news top of the hour...let's see if anything is nailed down.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 16:09 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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NHK: Still reporting 7.4 magnitude, despite USGS and MSM downgrade.

No tsunami observed.

Uninterrupted cooling and nitrogen injection ops at Daiichi.

Onagawa nuclear plant; no new information since 12:55 AM Japan time.

Another plant is on backup power; operator is also Tohoku Electric; 'trying' to cool spent fuel pool with generators.  That info also 3-4 hours old.

Reprocessing plant not mentioned, yet.

Coast Guard has reported a change in sea level and coastal areas are still to be avoided.  With blackouts, gas leaks, fires and water main breaks, people should stay where they are if they are in safe location.

So, not much new info since the hour of the tremor.  Guess daylight will tell.  Fukushima webcam turns on in pre-dawn light so their 0500 local shot is up:

http://www.mmnews.de/index.php/etc/7479-webcam-fukushima

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 16:34 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Big article on 'flyjins' in Asahi Shimbun as Japanese/expat members of the global elite quietly flee to Hong Kong.

http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201104060141.html

"In response to the surge in visa applications, the Hong Kong immigration authorities have shortened the screening time from the usual four to six weeks to two days.

Many of the visa applicants are people who would bring economic benefits to Hong Kong, according to Chan, the immigration director.

Unless the city makes a quick response to their visa applications, these executives will go to other financial centers in Asia like Singapore, he said.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 19:39 | Link to Comment michigan independant
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The company, also known as TEPCO, has come under fire for its handling of the emergency at its Fukushima Daichi nuclear complex, triggered by a March 11 earthquake and tsunami that left more than 27,500 people dead or missing.

Mainichi quoted an unnamed government official as saying: "It will be a type of injection that will allow the government to have a certain level of (management) involvement."

Drilldown to the point. There will be no news since the news is just that.

http://www.des.emory.edu/mfp/Kuhnsnap.html

When enough significant anomalies have accrued against a current paradigm, the scientific discipline is thrown into a state of crisis, according to Kuhn. During this crisis, new ideas, perhaps ones previously discarded, are tried. Eventually a new paradigm is formed, which gains its own new followers, and an intellectual "battle" takes place between the followers of the new paradigm and the hold-outs of the old paradigm.

Cruel as it is we can try to define oxy moron all over again. I also now some good men have given there life and that should be the real issue to the future. I have noticed the Corporate has a 24 hour attention span

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 20:40 | Link to Comment Element
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Just finished listening to guy from TEPCO on NHK World explaining that the Fukushima Daiichi No.1's water suddenly flooded out of the core and exposed the fuel, and then core containment pressure fell very precipitously, and that the fuel core residues have now DEFINITELY squirted into its secondary containment suppression chamber, after this quake.

Apparently it was a sudden and energetic event.

They are making very clear the primary containment of No.1 has failed.

It is not clear if the secondary containment has depressurized (i.e. is leaking steam and metal vapor) as well.

If there is more steam exiting No.1 in subsequent photos we must presume the suppression chamber did depressurize as well and is leaking. I which case the plumbing would have burst from a pressure excursion when the primary containment breached.

Given it was energetic, there'is a good chance the interior of the dry-well is splattered with incandescent corium goo (if the dry-well wall even survived)

I expect they are currently trying to get seawater on it.

If we have not had a steam overpressure rupture of the secondary containment vessel, we soon may.

My GUESS is it will end up in a similar state as No.2, but with more building damage

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 21:30 | Link to Comment Stormdancer
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Element....I just saw a similar discussion on NHK, but it was the commentators, not a TEPCO rep.  They appeared to be referring to what happened to reactor 1 right after the original quake on March 11th...not this most recent one.

 

Either you misunderstood the timeframe the TEPCO rep was talking about, or they're backpedaling... and I'd hate to hazard a guess as to which it is given the obfuscation we've seen to date.

Anyway.....if the report I just watched is the accurate one, reactor one has had a significantly bbreached reactor core (pressure vessel) since about 7 hours after the original quake.

Everything is clear as mud....and quite typical...and probably doesn't change anything about your overall assessment in any case.

 

Edit:  The more I think about this, the less sense it makes.  If reactor one has had a breached  pressure vessel almost since the beginning, it's hard to believe the lack of smoke/steam we've seen from that building to date.  Dunno...just noodling in the dark...

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