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Sat, 09/25/2010 - 23:25 | 605051 GoinFawr
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ITG, you baiter. This case just simply isn't what you are trying to make it about, sorry. And because you are pressing so hard for the thread to turn to 'that', well; I have to wonder... perhaps you're one of the bigger bigots here? So sad.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:40 | 598789 lizzy36
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Hmm....so you have a ZH Jew Chart. 

Protocols of Zion much?

I assume that attacking my stated UN opinion based on its merits was beyond your intellectual capacity. Much easier to negate said opinion based on the basis of religion and/or race. 

Look forward to your future contributions (such as they are) here on ZH.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:12 | 598848 MsCreant
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by zaknick 
on Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:49
#598801

lmao

You're now on the Auschwitz list!

 

 

You looked rational in your second post to me up there. This shit looks spooky scary racist. Which is it?

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:41 | 598895 zaknick
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See my reply below.

 

Hey, this uppity little scumbag (for whoever defends evil is a scumbag in my world; how about yours?) was attemting to talk down to me. Fail.

 

Believe one thing about me if no other: I speak from only good intentions when I denounce powerful, evil people.

 

Here:

 

http://www.scribd.com/full/37179251?access_key=key-2kddz2ftg39et58e3hp2

 

My Auschwitz "joke" (I'll admit was in extremely poor taste) is just to get a rise; no evil intent intended.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:01 | 598942 Internet Tough Guy
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Go back to Stormfront.

Thu, 09/23/2010 - 00:31 | 599211 dkny
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...ethnic cleansing and genocide by Zionists.

Another bozo using the word "genocide" without understanding what it means.
It would boggle his mind if he looked at population figures.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:38 | 598150 Pseudo Anonym
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the hofjuden and their shtadlans will now pull the lines of credit of countries that voted against israel and be labeled as countries harboring terrorists. Will Israel now order the subservient USofA to pay a friendly visit to these countries and institute democracy there as well? That's what I want to know.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:40 | 598158 curbyourrisk
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Wait.   I am supposed to give a Fuck about what the UN thinks....because.....

 

During lunch today, I took a nice ginergly walk across town.  They are in the middle of their annual fucking up of NYCity traffic, otherwise known as their General Assembly.   I politely walked the few blocks, through the road blocks, past the check points and gave them a 1 finger solute with both hands.  I then proceeded to the nearest McDonals to drown my despair for the UN with a quarter pounder with cheese.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:44 | 598171 crosey
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HA!  Love it.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:21 | 598302 redpill
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I prefer the double QP w/cheese (wouldn't that be a half pounder?), then there's so much grease it soaks all the way through the bun.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:41 | 598161 Milestones
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Rick-What borders? To my knowledge Israel has never declared exactly where or what or how about anything concerning their alleged borders.

Not until they get their Biblical borders will they lay out their "borders" if that will now satisfy them.  Milestones

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:23 | 598307 Rick64
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Yes you are right. Not borders, but Armistice lines.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:43 | 598166 crosey
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There will be tension and/or war in the Middle East until the end of time.

Hate or love Israel...it does not matter.

Hate or love Islam...it does not matter.

The UN is, at best, flacid.  An expensive, ongoing choice buffet in diplomat regalia.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:55 | 598573 Bringin It
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Dream on crosey.  Western financial collapse is seriously bad juju for the Uber-Zionists.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:24 | 598651 zaknick
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It is! It is!

 

 

lmao

 

 

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:45 | 598179 JLee2027
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The UN hates Israel. The UN should be disbanded. It's become a social club for leftist thugs.

Next.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:52 | 598199 Internet Tough Guy
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++

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:21 | 598300 DoChenRollingBearing
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++

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:29 | 598333 Ethics Gradient
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I admit it. It was me.

Couldn't have a comment on this page without a junk, could we?

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:55 | 598434 DoChenRollingBearing
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Thanks!  I guess...

...

What is the term for your avatar (the housing with the gearing)?

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:26 | 598980 Uncle Remus
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Looks like a part from a Wankel. Three tips look like compression edges...

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 22:08 | 599034 DoChenRollingBearing
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Thanks Uncle R.

None of our hub unit bearings has a housing like that.

The Wankel engine, been a long time since I heard about that.  Mazda, right?

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:33 | 599136 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I recall the Wankel being all the rage during Energy Crisis '74. Friend had a working (sic) plastic model that we could never get assembled properly.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:52 | 598198 Cow
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I'm sure the UN study of the missles being fired on Israel will be next.  I'll hold my breath.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:45 | 599153 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Don't forget about the missile attack made by Jewish settlers on the Palestinians in the town of Burin. What's that you say? You couldn't forget about it because you never heard about it because attacks on Palestinians are rarely reported in US media? So true.

The Israeli Police spokesperson said that Israeli police arrested Gilad Herman, a student at a Jewish seminary in the settlement of Yitzhar on 13 July 2008, after a failed rocket attack on Burin.[2]

^ Ha'aretz Settler arrested in failed rocket attack on Palestinian town. retrieved 26 July

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burin,_Nablus2008

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:55 | 598207 JR
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Law!

EXCERPT: Middle East Conflict

The Gaza Flotilla and Israel’s Many, Many Rights

By Charles Glass, June 03, 2010

United Nations resolutions do not apply to Israel. The UN should pass a resolution immediately to make this clear. Israel has been in contravention, at least on paper, of more UN resolutions than any other member state. It has consistently refused to adhere to Security Council and General Assembly resolutions on the refugees who fled or were expelled by its forces in 1948 and 1967, on its occupation of territories seized in 1967, on its seizure of land in those territories, on its transfer of its own civilians into occupied territories, on the construction of settlements in the same territories and on its treatment of indigenous civilians in those territories. Let’s get this straight. The UN can say whatever it likes, but it cannot expect its resolutions to apply to Israel—except, of course, the one that recognized Israel as a state in 1948. Non-compliance with UN resolutions may be used as a justification for invading Iraq, but they cannot possibly justify criticism of Israel in the knee-jerk, left-wing press or among the blogs of the Legion of Poseurs. (Perhaps there really is an organization called the Legion of Poseurs. If there is, I am sure Les will let us know about it.)

Israel can bomb and invade Lebanon whenever it wants, but we all know that.

Israel can discriminate between its Jewish citizens and non-Jewish citizens, as well as between its settlers and those stateless souls in the occupied lands. Jews can own land in Israel, and (except for about eight per cent of it) Arabs may not...

Israel can put Gaza under siege whenever it likes. If the Palestinians in Gaza don’t like it, they can go home. Well, actually, the ninety per cent of them who are refugees can’t go home, because Israel won’t let them. And that too is Israel’s right. Do not forget it is always legal for Israel to prevent shipments of food, medicine, children’s toys, light bulbs and anything else it likes from entering Gaza, even though international law says that collective punishment and deprivation of life’s necessities are illegal.

Israel may stop any ship bound for Gaza (or anywhere else) whenever it wants. Les Gelb found a precedent for this: the Allied blockade of Germany...  Israel cannot be in a legal state of war with territory it occupies. If it were, it would be obliged to treat Palestinian anti-occupation fighters in its custody as prisoners of war with rights under the Geneva Conventions. And we all know how likely that is and what Israel thinks of the Geneva Conventions. You guessed it, right up there with treaties and UN resolutions... Thus, on the high seas, Israel can ram aid ships like it did last year or drop armed commandos on them...

Israel can demand that Hamas and every other Palestinian group recognize Israel and its “right to exist” (even though, in any other context, the concept “right to exist” has no existence in law), while Israel refuses to recognize the state of Palestine within the 1947 borders set by the United Nations or the 1949 ceasefire lines that became the first, albeit temporary, borders of Israel. Not only does Israel not have to recognize such a state, it may physically prevent it...

There you have it. Stand by Israel now... If you don’t, you lousy left-wing, knee-jerk poseur, you’re nothing but an anti-Semite. Al [Dershowitz] and Les can explain why anyone and everyone, even Jews, critical of any Israeli action should be called anti-Semitic. I used to know why, but I’ve forgotten.

http://www.takimag.com/article/the_gaza_flotilla_and_israels_many_many_rights/

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:57 | 598217 israhole
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:16 | 598283 Internet Tough Guy
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No one asked you. Fuck you too.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:57 | 598577 Bringin It
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You have more junks than he does. 

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:58 | 598219 linrom
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UN is a madrasah.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:27 | 598984 Uncle Remus
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Jesus, that is funny.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:09 | 598255 redpill
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If I have no opinion, will my message still get flagged as junk?

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:16 | 598282 Dr. Richard Head
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You are one of the only two not junked, mine now being a third, until it's not.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:18 | 598288 redpill
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Well in that case, shalom, bitchez!

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:23 | 598306 DoChenRollingBearing
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!!  LOL

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:38 | 598373 Dr. Richard Head
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salam aleikum my brotha 

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:31 | 598342 Dismal Scientist
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Beat me to the observation. The majority of the comments have received only 1 junk, which leads me to think we have the junker equivalent of a serial killer at loose on any Israel/Palestine thread. Or else one from each 'side'. Let me make it easy for you guys, the quality of so called debate on such threads is pathetic beyond belief. You hear me, junkies ?

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:13 | 598267 Azannoth
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Jewish hyporisim exposed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLt5U7VcHw8&NR=1

Too bad there where no hidden cameras in the 'concentration camps' during WW2, who knows what they might show

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:16 | 598285 Bagbalm
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I'd believe the Onion before the UN.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:19 | 598293 redpill
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The Onion has a stronger commitment to truth.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:26 | 598320 SilverIsKing
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What's the penalty for breaking the law?  Is it like $250 plus two points on Netanyahu's drivers license?

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:03 | 598455 NotApplicable
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That and a photo op with Obama with a contrite look on his face.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:30 | 598527 redpill
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Which will undoubtedly wind up on the cover of Time.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:33 | 598322 crzyhun
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Exactly who or what is the UN to do and say ANYTHING!! The part that said this can go and kiss a PIG's a$$.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:33 | 598351 redpill
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Who lectures the UN when they break the law?

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:53 | 598423 Instant Karma
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Next time just quietly sink the boat. Bye bye.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:00 | 598449 Johnny Dangereaux
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Rackin up the karma points....with Lucifer!!

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:10 | 598472 scratch_and_sniff
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John Lenon would be so proud of you.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:23 | 598508 DaveyJones
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Oh I get it, your avatar is not John, it's Mark David Chapman's POV

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:29 | 598987 Uncle Remus
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[insert rim shot here]

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:59 | 598443 Johnny Dangereaux
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You all should check out the fact-based former joo ....Brother Nathanael Kepner!!

http://www.realzionistnews.com/

ALL FACTS...and a former joo to boo....t 

 

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:04 | 598458 PolishHammer
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NO, really?  They raid a ship with special ops, kill a number of ppl and that's a crime now???

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:20 | 598496 centerline
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Junk-o-rama.  We got ourselves a bonified disgruntled troll here somewhere.  Shameful closed-mindedness.  The kind of narrow thinking that is easily distracted from reality (quick! - look! - a gay, pro-abortion, illegal alien dressed like Elvis behind you  - ha, ha).

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erthun0Pauc    LOL

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:27 | 598518 JR
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First of all, what occurred in the Mediterranean does not need the UN to judge whether it was right or wrong.  We all know two basic facts: a boat load of unarmed human beings approach and armed opposition ensues, leaving nine human beings dead.

Since the United Nations is summarizing the results of its human rights probe, it is important to realize the incredible dominance of one member of the UN, the world’s largest superpower, the United States.  Not only is it the major monetary contributor to the UN, but it carries incredible leverage over almost every other member, all the way to China and Russia.

With that in mind, for the UN to provide any criticism of America’s Number One protégé in the region, Israel, must be taken as significant evidence of world opinion.

How long will the world continue its meekness toward the Palestinian dilemma in the face of the obvious injustice of American power?

 

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:38 | 598538 lynnybee
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What do these people have in common ?   

1.  Kissinger   2. Greenspan  3. Robert Rubin   4. Larry Summers   5. Geitner  6. Rahm Emmanuel   7. Kass Sunstein   8. Bernanke   9. The Clinton's new in-laws !   10. Blankfein   11. & you can probably add many more to the list.         I'm not going to say it, cause I'll "get junked".   So, I'll just quote Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, "The U.S. is a puppet government of Israel."   

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:00 | 598588 JR
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George Washington was concerned about U.S. foreign entanglements.  I wonder what he’d say now about another nation coming into the U.S. to control whoever is elected to the U.S. Congress and the Presidency; in short, to control the country both at home and abroad and her currency?  Wars are fought and men are killed, on false patriotism.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:16 | 598629 zaknick
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Well put JR. Infamy is what this garbage is.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:15 | 598624 zaknick
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Good to see you here.

 

PCR is an inspiration just like the Founding Fathers of this nation.

 

Bless you for speaking out.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:39 | 598542 francismarion
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The one-sided moronic rage of the nazis and the mommy's-little-angel pottymouth excrement slingers already here will only be complete when the cut-and-pasters find out about the new meat.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:54 | 598571 francismarion
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@ lynnybee

What is so remarkable about Jewish participation in government and economy? If you will check (thank you, Google!) you will find that Jews excel in nearly every field of human endeavor.

I hear Hitler was a Jew. And the Bolsheviks were largely Jews. 

Jews have received a wildly disproportionate share of Nobel Prizes in medicine and science. Google it.

Jews provide many refinements and advancements on our military hardware.

But no, they do not wish for their homeland, Israel, to be destroyed.

They will not let infiltrators have access to their land without a fight. They will do whatever it takes to survive. Wish our government cared as much about our citizens as theirs does for theirs.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:57 | 598575 francismarion
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The same old rubbish about Israel committing genocide. There they are with all their hardware and they cannot manage to exterminate the citizens of an area right next to them the size of New York City?

Someone should tell them to quit sending in the abundant supplies of food and wide screen tvs to the Arabs and use a more effective form of ammo.

And all that economic activity on the West Bank. That's no way to exterminate a people.

Some holocaust.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:02 | 598594 lynnybee
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....oh, how silly of me, how could i forget the greatest "financier" of all on that list !!  

12.  George Soros !

& they are also great at "looting", too.    Poor Robert Rubin, so misunderstood, yet so calculating !  

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:09 | 598610 lynnybee
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hey ......... this reputation has been going on since Jesus & the temple & the moneychanger story from Biblical times !   I didn't start it.   The reputation is as old as history .

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:57 | 599168 CrockettAlmanac.com
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People seem to completely misunderstand the money changer story.

Jewish law required donations to the temple to be made in Jewish coinage rather than Greek or Roman coinage which had a pictures of emperors and foreign gods on them. Palestine had been under Greek and then Roman control for three hundred years at the time of Christ. The economy was thoroughly Hellenized and Latinized and so the Jews who went to the temple had to change their Greek and Roman money for Jewish money in order to make an offering.

Sure, the money changers made a profit. But the main reason Jesus got mad at them was because the act of money changing allowed for the hypocrisy of Jews living a Roman lifestyle 6 days a week but still being able to ostensibly be good Jews on the sabbath.

An acceptance of the foreign lifestyle was the sin, not the profit.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:14 | 598621 francismarion
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@ JR: 

"How long will the world continue its meekness toward the Palestinian dilemma in the face of the obvious injustice of American power?

I have read you on other subjects. You are not crazy. What is it about Israel that makes you so oblivious to reality? If the US has so much pull in the UN why all the condemnations of Israel over the years? Just Google it.

If Israel is so cruel why are the people in the territories thriving as much as their human-shield using captor Hamas will permit?

Withdraw? To where? Tel Aviv? Tiberias? Cyprus?

Would you take your foot off the neck of a large rabid dog? Quite a dilemma, wouldn't you say?

Meekness? Tell it to the murderers bristling with ballistic weapons and suicide-bomber-belts surrounding Israel. Tell it to Iran. You know how much their dictator and his clique hate Israel.

If you and those like you ceased to be willing dupes of the Israel-hating Western idiocracy and the Islamofascist madmen and the surrounding totalitarian monsters directing their countries aspirations at an outward enemy instead of internal development, maybe these malefactors would begin to realize they do not have a chance to destroy Israel and peace would be possible.

You are smart enough to know that the absolutists among the Arabs and Iran will stop at nothing and accept no compromise to seeing Israel driven into the sea.

Israel chooses not to be destroyed.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:19 | 598637 zaknick
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Fuck you, this is not about destroying Israel, it is about piracy and murder on the high seas and ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Palestinians with American weapons.

 

Fuck AIPAC too while we're at it; they deserve to be hung after being tried for treason.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:32 | 598988 Milestones
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Fran;The Israelis cause a grave problem for the world for centuries on end, and then demand that everyone who they have agrieved to quit picking on them because of a few babbles from an eons old book.Ya and lets all rely on the wit and wisdom of the Talmad and uh, yah know, we'll all just mellow out- ya know with us'n bein kinda the leader of the band cause of how we know how to get along with other people an all.

Does that kinda sum up how you folks envision how the whole deal ought to work??   Milestones

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:43 | 599003 francismarion
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Whatever bubble you have just emerged from has kept you out of contact with history books. Try them. The alternative is the vacuity you seem to think passes for  informed discourse on one of the central issues of our age.

 

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:21 | 598641 zaknick
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duh

 

spammer

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:22 | 598646 francismarion
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@ JR

George Washington did not live in an age when ICBMs can hit the other side of the world in about an hour. That puts things in a completely different light.

He lived through Valley Forge. He wasn't around for Pearl Harbor and Auschwitz.

I don't think he would have considered 9-ll the basis for a lawsuit in the Hague or a really stern speech at the UN.

Israel is under the gun. A whole lot of big ones. Get real.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:30 | 598661 zaknick
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Liar, Israel is the nuclear armed rogue nation here. As always, lies, lies and damned lies.

 

 

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:37 | 598672 francismarion
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Non-sequitur.

Nastiness is not an argument.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:31 | 598663 infocyde
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I guess the whole deal about the Flotilla so called just being used as a vehicle to try to open up another big supply route for Hezbollah doesn't matter to anyone here.  This Flotilla of peace had nothing to do with peace and everyone here knows it.

The Israeli's are not boy scouts, they do some bad crap, but this cheer for the underdog meme that is constantly pushed that gives the sins of Islamofascist a pass while focusing only on the Israeli side needs to come to an end.  It doesn't do anybody any good and brings neither side closer to peace. 

 

Thu, 09/23/2010 - 00:01 | 599175 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Hezbollah?

Get this guy a program.

Thu, 09/23/2010 - 00:03 | 599181 JR
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Most people know Gaza is a prison camp; you can’t come here and you can’t go there. So to argue that the prisoners have lots of food and that they are attacking the Israelis when Israel is a nuclear power backed by a superpower is beyond the pale. Israel has helicopters, jet airplanes, night vision goggles, all kinds of sophisticated equipment, a barricade and fences and tanks. The Israeli Defense Force (IDF) can eliminate anyone at anytime without putting its own forces in danger. It’s all done by the technology of using satellites, airborne drones or elevated cameras at strategic locations along the border.

Israeli female soldiers sit at a desk and kill by remote control.  It’s called the Spot-and-Shoot Game—a system that allows a female soldier “to fire a remotely controlled machine gun to execute Palestinians who approach the fence around Gaza by pressing a button on her joystick."

Here’s a pix:

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2010/07/18/israeli-the-spot-and-shoot-game...

Do the Israelis think we’re stupid when they say these prisoners have all kinds of food and that the flotilla was just trying to open another ammunition route for Hezbollah when it had no ammunition, no weapons, but instead was loaded with food?

You know what?  Hamas is an elected government.  The American administration and the Israelis are the primary sources that started calling Hamas a terrorist organization, an enemy of Israel.  Every enemy of Israel is a terrorist--Iranians are terrorists, Syrians are terrorists, the Iraqis are terrorists, the Afghans are terrorists…

Your position, I’m afraid, is indefensible. The more that’s brought out; the worse you look. As for Egyptian testimony, Egypt helps with the quarantine; she assists in it.  Who’s going to pay any attention to the Egyptians?

Thu, 09/23/2010 - 08:32 | 599471 francismarion
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Gaza is ruled by Hamas. Their charter calls for the destruction of Israel. Why do Gazans approach the border with Israel? Are the Israelis supposed to let them in?

Gazans can emigrate, so much for the pose you take calling Gaza a prison camp. The sad fact is none of their moslem 'brethern' want them because they are so disruptive. Look at Lebanon and Jordan for examples. Why don't the Iranians take them? Their virtue extends only to murder and mayhem.

Israelis have superior weapons, so what? Does that make their security less important or Palestinians more moral? Gazans can and do kill Israelis. Dead is dead.

The solution to this dilemma is for the Palestinian to quit trying to kill Israelis and for the rest of the muslim world to join the West in trying to economically vitalize Gaza.

Perhaps you recall that was tried a few years ago and the 'leaders' of Gaza took the money for their own purposes of  high living and terror. What else does a savage know?

You are under a strong delusion, JR.

Wake up!

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:24 | 598652 francismarion
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@ zaknick

This is not about destroying Israel. This is about Israel choosing not to be destroyed.

The markets in Gaza are stuffed with food according to a large EGYPTIAN news source. Google it.

Reality.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:38 | 598677 zaknick
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You want reality? Here:

 

Benjamin Freedman – Warns America Part 1 <a href="http://twittley.com/" title="Benjamin Freedman &#8211; Warns America Part 1">Benjamin Freedman &#8211; Warns America Part 1</a>

The following transcript is a word for word copy of the speech made by Benjamin Freedman in 1961 at the Willard Hotel. This is a very famous lecture that still causes controversy today as within the speech he outlines the Zionist influence in America at the time and how they used their influence to bring the USA into the first world war in return for a promise by the British (the Balfour declaration) that they could settle in Palestine.

Mr Freedman was an ex Zionist himself who later converted to Catholicism and was part of the Zionist delegation that attended the Treaty of Versailles in which the seeds of World War 2 were laid. In the speech Mr Freedman discusses how the Balfour declaration was a reciept given by the British government to the Zionists in return for their help in bringing the USA into the war on Britains side. He also outlines how this was seen by Hitler and others in Germany as treachery of the highest order and was one of the primary reasons why the Nazi’s hated the Jews so much.

Not only does this speech look at a part of history that still affects the world today from a different perspective it is also used by those on the far right as proof of a global Jewish conspiracy. For this reason Mr Freedman was seen by the pro-Israeli lobby as a self hating Jew and for that reason alone its worth understanding why they hated him so much. Whether you agree or disagree with the views outlined by the speaker is irrelevant to me but it’s worth reading for its historical significance. The actual audio recording of the speech can be found at the bottom of page 2.

by Benjamin H. Freedman

Introductory Note — Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20th century.

Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States.

Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times.

This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley’s patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman’s essential message to us — his warning to the West — is more urgent than ever before. — K.A.S. —

 

http://www.darkpolitricks.com/benjamin-freedman-warns-america-part1/

http://www.darkpolitricks.com/benjamin-freedman-warns-america-part-2/

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:48 | 598707 francismarion
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You are an empty vessel.

Aside from the cut and paste and potty mouth.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:43 | 598793 zaknick
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As if anything you said could ever matter, war criminal.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:27 | 598655 francismarion
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What is this about all you geography scholars thinking Israel could blockade Gaza?

Egypt borders on the southern edge of Gaza.

Reality.

Thu, 09/23/2010 - 00:03 | 599180 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Egypt does not receive billions of dollars in US aid causing them to toe the US-Israel Line. Nope. Doesn't happen.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:18 | 598758 gabbayo
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I am ashamed to say that most of ZH readers and maybe its founder could be honorary members of the Nazi party in 1930's Germany. Probably you would be found near the "on" switch of the Gas chambers or the crematoriums

I really pity you. You don't take responsibility for yourselves and accuse the jews all the time.

 

 

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:55 | 598815 scratch_and_sniff
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Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:06 | 598920 linrom
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TD is a douchebag, a  mouth piece of Al-Jazeera. There is no empathy for the poor in any of his posts: it's all about preserving purchasing power of his Wall Street stolen loot presented in empty attacks on the bogeyman - Keynesianism.. He then pretends that he is not a banker, hedge fund type that misleads others. Look you can't eat gold and debt/deflation will wipe out 60% of Americans.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:08 | 598954 kathy.chamberli...
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6 words posted by tyler and all the guyz goes absolutely ape shit over him. i mean cum on, boys. you all are drooling over anything that is typed by Durgen.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:59 | 598921 linrom
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Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:57 | 598821 MsCreant
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Wish ya'll'd aim all this fight in the right direction.

This is why the Banksters will win.

 

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:27 | 598875 Hephasteus
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But then the game would be too easy.

I didn't land on a boat and start killing people but since I'm a Jew I have to defend the people who did it as well because if I allow them to be punished then it pulls down the status of my entire race and when I do something they'll punish me worse because I'm an evil Jew.

So easy to fuck with people's sense of self for both gang protection and gang violence justification. Now please excuse me. I have an important speech about original sin to present to people who can't use logic, then I have to defend tall people against an attack of our immorally dominating basketball since I happen to be a tall person this life. Because If I don't I'll be steralized and not allowed to reproduce.

Oh wait someone is criticizing the ceo of goldman sachs. Raise the JEW SHIELD!!! Let them tire themselves fighting our struggling confused sense of self idiots then we will destroy them once they have weakened.

See you all in the Never fucked a sheep group on facebook. Just don't drop the group. It will be an admission of guilt.

I sure hope people don't find out that I don't really believe in any of these groups. I just use them for protection and power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4dsnYTxjwg

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:28 | 598880 lynnybee
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Unfortunately, this cast of criminal characters has done it to themselves.   Their reputation is well deserved.    THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES !   They don't need me to demonize them; their actions speak for themselves.    Greed, nothing but damn greed.    It's called the worship of money.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:48 | 599010 francismarion
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ZH is a joy. TD is my hero. I want to be him. Or beat him up, I'm not sure which.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 22:28 | 599056 skippy
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And some have problems with a Community Center / Muslim Mosque in NYC...lmao.

Morocco was the first country to recognize the United States in 1777, and Washington wrote to Mohammed ben Abdallah in appreciation of the Treaty of Peace and Friendship, signed in Marrakech in 1787.[50]

He was an early supporter of religious toleration and freedom of religion. In 1775, he ordered that his troops not show anti-Catholic sentiments by burning the pope in effigy on Guy Fawkes Night. When hiring workmen for Mount Vernon, he wrote to his agent, "If they be good workmen, they may be from Asia, Africa, or Europe; they may be Mohammedans, Jews, or Christians of any sect, or they may be Atheists."[104][105] In 1790, he wrote a response to a letter from the Touro Synagogue, in which he said that as long as people remain good citizens, they do not have to fear persecution for having differing beliefs or faiths. This was a relief to the Jewish community of the United States, since the Jews had been either expelled or discriminated against in many European countries.

"the Government of the United States ... gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance. ... May the children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, and there shall be none to make him afraid. May the father of all mercies scatter light and not darkness in our paths, and make us all in our several vocations useful here, and in his own due time and way everlastingly happy"

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington

 

So many ideological singularities in a single galaxy, all exercising their own gravity, making the biggest MFing black hole yet seen.

 

Skippy...compression bitchzes or how small can ye get.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:03 | 599098 Instant Karma
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I'd be more concerned with a billion muslims hell bent on conquering the world, again, armed with nuclear weapons, than a couple million jews who spend half their lives in bomb shelters. It may be more fun to pick on the vastly outnumbered jews, you may want to take a gander at muslim expansionism. You may find yourself beheaded if you're not careful.

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:59 | 599166 skippy
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I'd be more concerned with the billions of extremist people of all *isms* hell bent on conquering the world, again, armed with nuclear weapons, than a couple million pot heads locked up in jail (for trying to mentally escape a world covered in extremists), all trying to kill each other, just to prove they picked the right deity.

Skippy...There fixed... 

Thu, 09/23/2010 - 02:30 | 599282 Milestones
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You from APAIC? Islam and Christianity may battle in the future; the battle of Israel led Zionism is the battle now for this country.

Speaking of empty vessels:

After a momentary silence one did spake;

A vessel of a more ungainly make,

they sneer at me for leaning all awray--

what, did then the hand of the Potter shake?

Qurantran from the "Rubaiyat"  Omar the tent maker

Milestones

Thu, 09/23/2010 - 10:38 | 599759 Instant Karma
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What the heck is "Zionism?" The Jew's desire to have a few square miles of historic land in the Middle East to call their own?

What's wrong with that?

The Arabs and Persions have tens of millions of square miles to call their own.

I think the Arabs and Persions are just greedy and want everything for themselves. Like children, they do not know how to share, or to play well with others.

Thu, 09/23/2010 - 11:08 | 599854 CrockettAlmanac.com
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What is "La Raza" anyway? Just the Latinos' desire to have a few square miles of their historic lands in the United States to call their own?

What's wrong with that?

There's lots of land for white Anglo people in Europe.

I think white people are greedy and want everything for themselves. Like children they do not know how to share or play well with others. Except Instant Karma, of course. He's moving back to where he belongs and giving up his job and home to a fine Mexican family. It's really quite inspirational.

Thu, 09/23/2010 - 08:27 | 599465 Grand Supercycle
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Short signals detected yesterday have now increased.

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