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Ageed to the shores of Tripoli
Libertarians will drag us into the dark ages.
Bunch of ham aficionados and their "time machine politics."
Back to the 1800's - That's the answer! Yeah, right.
Liberals will drag us into the new slave ages and then gnash their teeth and wonder why.. Such child like thinking, amusing but dangerous.
A junk for your careless use of labels and for stereotyping "libertarians".
Libertarians believe in freedom. Anything else is just a different type of slavery.
[Libertarians will drag us into the dark ages.]---Mark McGoldrick
For me, it's Liberty or Death.
Sounds like you've made your choice. Good luck with that.
Hey, guess what! An advanced race of aliens just landed!
They've overcome the bullshit animal spirits causing all our troubles.
They said the secret recipie is to reject all progressivism and stop changing! In fact, it's even better to turn back the clock and regress!
What's the record at ZH for "junk"?
I'm wondering rms junks. (that's square-root-of-the-sum-of-the-squares all y'all)
and this is labeled as "Hillary's War"
someone had to fill out his ladderz b4 the deadline.
Shock and Awe II : The Empire strikes Back!
Where's my popcorn?
Wait, this doesn't look like Hoth?
It looks more like Tatooine.
and what if the rebels still lose?? isn't this no-fly zone just suppose to make it a fair fight??
From what I saw, the rebels do not really know how to be a complete unit so they'll be asking for a fly zone of U.N. bombers so they can just walk right into Tripoli
The UN resolution is meant to take the weapons out of the hands of the Gadaffi gang. And superior weapons are all they have. The first rule of war (and street fights) is that if you find yourself in a fair fight, you've made a big mistake. Clear out the mercenaries. Burn the tanks. Melt the artillery. When a dictator proves utterly ruthless, and then threatens to terrorize the Meditteranean "for years" if we intervene, then the intervention will be fast, brutal, and continue until the thug, his children and his loyalists are gone. "Making it a fair fight" isn't the point. Illiminating the creator of the unfair fight is the point.
so its just a proxy war.. who can tell who's a thug anymore.. its not like if we win we get 50 cent oil - nope - just Big Oil gets to get the profits instead of the sand puppets
I can tell Qaddafi, his sons, and his mercenaries are thugs and I'm sure you can, too. Without 'big oil' you wouldn't have much of a life. Iraq, certainly, was a war to take a proven aggressor off Saudi's flank. Libya is a different issue. Our commitments are lower and our participation as an "air only" force is vastly less expensive. Proxy war? Stabilizing north Africa? Do you need 50 cent oil to justify aiding a rebellion against a terrorist and brutal tyrant? What are we liberating in Afghanistan? Nothing. A useless war fought because Dems and Independents could get behind the "al Queda trained there" rubbish. A huge pointless war. Air support in Libya? Sensible and relatively cheap.
but, amusingly, we (and our power elite) have no idea if whoever replaces the colonel, etc. will be, in practical terms, better "friends" with the u.s. or, more importantly, israel. ditto every other place currently in flux, including iraq and afghanistan.
rebellion against a terrorist and brutal tyrant?
rebellion against a terrorist and brutal tyrant?
No rebellion. Only illegal combatants.
I don't know what I hate more...UN posturing or Qwackdaffy's megalomania.
The only thing we know for sure (as the ME fire rages on) is Qwackdaffy's nurse made a good house call and got the hell out of Dodge.
Who said blonde's are dumb ;-)
Agree with the "don't know what I hate more..."
Everything the UN does turns into a giant clusterfuck of inefficiency and incompetence.
This will be no different...mark my words.
Don't forget the posturing, or the preening.
LOL...by the looks of the news today, a few more meetings in Europe are needed to complete this current fashion show.
I have always wondered...when the UN commits "war crimes" where is the trial held and who are the judges, prosecutors and jurors?
But I suppose we've already found that out from the rapes & tortures their troops have committed around the globe...ahhh well.
Libyan civilians. I thought they were the rebels. Soon to be known as "The War of Euro Aggression". Bonnie Green Flag anyone?
How soon? I wonder if the bombers were orbiting, waiting for the go code...
More than likely. This vote was just a formality. The military planners have had a few weeks to hammer out the various bombing missions.
"Weapons are free. You are go for launch."
If you are talking about "UN" military planners, don't expect brilliance. There wil be no effective unity of command in this clusterfuck.
They are not even rebels. They are illegal combatants by the standards set by the US.
Duplicity is the only US legacy to the world.
Ummm, so how long will it take to set up no-fly zones for Saudi Arabia and Bahrain, who have also attacked their peaceful civilian protesters? *crickets chirping*
And lets not forget Iran either
Yeah, that was my question: what about Bahrain?
Bahrain has unruly migrant workers, like Saudi Arabia. Libya has freedom fighters... Uhhhum.. yeah.. that's it..
No such thing as an islamic freedom fighter. Islam and freedom are mutually exclusive, forever anathema to each other. Islam infected soldiers might better be described as "tyranny fighters" as is in, fighting for tyranny. These are not freedom agenda guys.
(16:53 PM)In Separate News. The UN Security Council has suddenly become tired of North Koreas' maltreatment of its own peoples, after over 50 years, and has voted 15-0, with no abstainers to invade and liberate the people of North Korea.
UPDATE at 16:55 PM: THE UN Security Council has cancelled the above invasion order of North Korea after a detailed review of North Korea's petroleum reserves. THe UN Security Council will heretofore conduct a detailed review of all petroleum reserves in despotic nations.
(goodfaceinvestah, good to see you. keep on posting)
Ghostface - Yeah, that was my thought too...You can junk me too you fools..
and the cost of those those 5 Abstains...
well, that, did not come out of the pockets of the wealthy...any takers?
Ah but were on good terms with them, so they can murder all the civilians they like.
And as for Zimbabwe, who cares about the people there, they don't have oil!
In Bahrain and SA, those guys are terrorists, even though some of them were shot while demonstrating with no guns at belt, just yelling and marching on streets.
The US and co can not even face up they are supporting a bunch of illegal combatants in Libya, illegal combatants who are hiding among civilians etc All the package...
Since the US inception, a new category has risen: non humans.
cool when the jiffy pop blows in japan everyone will be looking over here. full moon on saturday, can't wait to see this surreal painting come to life. not.
Bombs away !
Its WWIII "Bitchez" you forgot the "Z"
its ok, im here for you
...finally a good reason to upgrade all my personal bad habits. Eureka !!
World War III would require global participation across multiple fronts.
Hmmm. Why don't you come up with something more accurate for a description?
"Remember the Maine" while quite possibly inaccurate in a causal sense (since it was a false flag for all intensive purposes), is probably a better comparison to "Remember Lockerbie" than the hyperbole of global conflagration.
World Wars have a quaint way of starting just like this.
The conditions are ripe as they have ever been:
Looks like the start to a world war if I've ever seen one. What exactly are you witnessing that makes my statement less than accurate?
Sorry Bob, it's hyperbolic.
You have to have someone who is both willing and capable of fighting the US and its allies globally. We are not there yet. Not even close.
While things may point to future problems and divergences, the near future is another proxy / post colonial action.
I think it takes two sides to have a "war". In the Libyan army you have, how to put it to scale, a few stray bacteria against a pallet of clorox(any one US aircraft carrier or fighter wing).
yes, all they did was assassinate an archduke.... and it's "intents and purposes".
Back then the theory of war had every side "mobilized" because of the argument that the country that was mobilised first could obviously win quickly. Wrong, the tank had not been invented yet, but the entrenchment tool or "shovel" had been around for a while. Anyway, they prepared to win back then by having large standing armies which were meant to swing into action quicker than the ennemy.
In the last several decades, Libya prepared to not lose, up to now, by being a member of the UN, which granted them inviolable sovereignty under "international law" behind which to operate their sordid grinding dictatorship, psychostate horrors, and of course terrorism activities. So the UN isn't entirely useless: It protects and coddles evil for long stretches of time.
10 hypocrites with 5 hypocrites who wish to remain blameless just as long as they can sell arms to both sides as well. The war business of the globe thus continues. All that's left is the speeches declaring they did it for the women and ......wait for it.....children.
Let us not forget all of the heroic loans for the needed reconstruction of the new satrap's palaces and ministries, and embasies on the Med coast.
Oh that, that's just nation building
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