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An Untested Type of Fluoride Is Used in the Overwhelming Majority of U.S. Water Supplies
Dartmouth University wrote in 2001:
In
a recent article in the journal NeuroToxicology, a research team led
by Roger D. Masters, Dartmouth College Research Professor and Nelson A.
Rockefeller Professor of Government Emeritus, reports evidence that
public drinking water treated with sodium silicofluoride or fluosilicic
acid, known as silicofluorides (SiFs), is linked to higher uptake of
lead in children.
Sodium fluoride, first added to public drinking water in 1945, is now used in less than 10%
of fluoridation systems nationwide, according to the Center for
Disease Control's (CDC) 1992 Fluoridation Census. Instead, SiF's are
now used to treat drinking water delivered to 140 million people. While
sodium fluoride was tested on animals and approved for human
consumption, the same cannot be said for SiFs.
Masters and
his collaborator Myron J. Coplan, a consulting chemical engineer,
formerly Vice President of Albany International Corporation, led the
team that has now studied the blood lead levels in over 400,000
children in three different samples. In each case, they found a
significant link between SiF-treated water and elevated blood lead
levels.
"We should stop using silicofluorides in our public water supply until we know what they do," said Masters. Officials
at the Environmental Protection Agency have told Masters and Coplan
that the EPA has no information on health effects of chronic ingestion
of SiF-treated water.
***
Also requiring further
examination is German research that shows SiFs inhibit cholinesterase,
an enzyme that plays an important role in regulating neurotransmitters.
"If
SiFs are cholinesterase inhibitors, this means that SiFs have effects
like the chemical agents linked to Gulf War Syndrome, chronic fatigue
syndrome and other puzzling conditions that plague millions of
Americans," said Masters. "We need a better understanding of how SiFs
behave chemically and physiologically."
Here is Masters' scientific paper on SiFs (also called "fluosilicic acid" and "fluorosilicic acid").
The Sierra Club notes:
If fluoride is added to municipal water supplies, sodium fluoride rather
than flourosilicate compounds should be used because the latter has a
greater risk of being contaminated with such heavy metals as lead and
arsenic.
Where does this compound come from?
As ABC News' medical and scientific journalist, Nicholas Regush, writes
Fluoride
is a by-product of aluminum and fertilizer manufacturing and contains
heavy metals such as lead, arsenic and chromium. Fluoride is not a
high-purity pharmaceutical, to put it conservatively.
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Toxicology Program, reported in 2001:
Sodium
hexafluorosilicate is produced by treating fluorosilicic acid with
sodium hydroxide, sodium carbonate, or sodium chloride; alkalinity is
adjusted to avoid the release of the fluoride.
Fluorosilicic acid is mainly produced as a byproduct of the manufacture
of phosphate fertilizers where phosphate rock is treated with sulfuric
acid.***
The major use of sodium hexafluorosilicate and fluorosilicic acid is as fluoridation agents for drinking water.
According to the U.S. Geological Survey:
An estimated 40,000 tons of fluorosilicic acid (equivalent to about 70,000 tons of 92% fluorspar) was recovered from phosphoric acid plants processing phosphate rock. Fluorosilicic acid was used primarily in water fluoridation, either directly or after processing into sodium silicofluoride.
The USGS also noted in a 2000 report:
Fluorosilicic acid is a byproduct of the phosphate fertilizer industry and is not manufactured for itself alone ...
In
other words, even though neither the EPA or any other government agency
has studied the effects of long-term ingestion of fluorosilicic acid,
it is being used instead of sodium fluoride because it is cheaper.
As
Edward Urbansky from the EPA's Office of Research and Development,
National Risk management Research Laboratory, Water Supply and Water
Resources Division wrote in 2002:
The
most common fluoridating agents used by American waterworks are sodium
fluoride (NaF), hexafluorosilicic acid (H2SiF6), and sodium
hexafluorosilicate
(Na2SiF6) as shown in Figure 1.14 Although 25% of
the utilities reported using NaF, this corresponds to only 9.2% of the
U.S. population drinking fluoride-supplemented tap water. ... The cost savings in using fluorosilicates result in large systems using those additives instead.***
In
the United States, the primary sources of fluoridating agents are rocky
mineral deposits containing mixtures of fluorite and apatite; the
fluoridating agent itself is produced as a byproduct of phosphate fertilizer manufacture.***
The
EPA is aware of papers positing links between fluoridation agents and
lead in the bloodstream or challenging the accepted chemistry. To truly
investigate such hypotheses, better chemical knowledge of the speciation
is required.
And see this testimony to Congress by PhD chemist William Hirzy, who - at the time of the hearing - was Vice-President of the union representing EPA toxicologists, biologists, chemists, engineer and lawyers:
And see this
.
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Question: What is the only drug that is not prescribed by a doctor, evaluated for efficacy, assayed for purity, approved by the FDA for a condition, prescribed with respect to the size of a person, or prescribed with the consent of the person?
Fluoride.
They do put Sodium Fluoride into toothpaste, since that is regulated by the FDA. They dump silicon hexafluoride into the water you make your baby formula with because it is cheap and not regulated. And when it is shipped to the water treatment plant, it is shipped as a Class 8 Packing group II, corrosive liquid; a hazardous material.
pods
Alex Jones has covered this in the last few months.
High levels of radioactive elements in the Texas water supply are the result of uranium contained as a constituent component of the municpal 'fluoride' additives obtained from phosphate fertilizer waste sourced from limestone quarries in Florida.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/texas-tap-water-contaminated-radiatio...
http://www.infowars.com/cdc-adjusts-fluoride-poisoning-of-america’s-wa...
http://www.infowars.com/fluoride-is-toxic/
http://www.purewatergazette.net/fluorideandphosphate.htm
[snip]
Phosphate fertilizer manufacturing and mining are not environment friendly operations. Fluorides and radionuclides are the primary toxic pollutants from the manufacture of phosphate fertilizer in Central Florida. People living near the fertilizer plants and mines, experience lung cancer and leukemia rates that are double the state average. Much of West Central Florida has become a toxic waste dump for phosphate fertilizer manufacturers. Federal and state pollution regulations have been modified to accommodate phosphate fertilizer production and use: These regulations have included using recovered pollution for water fluoridation.
Radium wastes from filtration systems at phosphate fertilizer facilities are among the most radioactive types of naturally occurring radioactive material (NORM) wastes. The radium wastes are so concentrated, they cannot be disposed of at the one US landfill licensed to accept NORM wastes, so manufacturers dump the radioactive wastes in acidic ponds atop 200-foot-high gypsum stacks. The federal government has no rules for its disposal. In written communications to the author, EPA Office of Drinking Water official Joseph A. Cotruvo and Public Health Service fluoridation engineer Thomas Reeves have acknowledged the presence of radionuclides in fluorosilicic acid.
Radon-222 is not an immediate threat because it stops emitting alpha radiation and decays into lead-214 in 3.86 days. Lead-214 appears to be harmless but it eventually decays into bismuth-214 and then into polonium-214. Unless someone knew to look for specific isotopes, no one would know that a transmutation into the polonium isotope had occurred....
Polonium-210, a decay product of bismuth-210, has a half-life of 138 days and gives off intense alpha radiation as it decays into regular lead and becomes stable. Any polonium-210 that might be present in the phosphate concentrate could pose a significant health threat. A very small amount of polonium-210 can be very dangerous, giving off 5,000 times more alpha radiation than the same amount of radium. As little as 0.03 microcuries (6.8 trillionths of a gram) of polonium-210 can be carcinogenic to humans.
GW, I wish you'd stop posting this sort of worthless nonsense, you're wasting ZH bandwidth.
So instead just go ahead and pay Coca-cola or Nestle $2 per bottle at 95% margin for your water. Can't you just vote against Fluoridation anyways? What's totalitarian about that?
Most of that shit probably hasn't had the fluoride filtered out, either.
Just buying a sink filter that removes the crap; is a hell of a lot cheaper than bottled water.... the shit costs more than petrol for Christ's sake!
If I drink water then it has flouride in it.
I drink water.
Therefore, it has flouride in it.
Getting thirsty, listener??
interesting that the GOP, the core GOP, the real GOP, has always been against flouridation. now of course not a word out of them. the old GOP also would have never signed WTO with China, although now they seem to have some issue with the arms treaty with Russia. well pick and choose.
Not to sound too conspiratorial but, I have noticed a lot more zombie bankers.
Shoot 'em or burn 'em
Shoot 'em or burn 'em.
Dawn of the Night of the Bankers.
Whack em in the head...that seems to work out.
motherfucking bitches
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41007422/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/?gt1=4...
Whole Foods wants to clean up their act. Yeh sure pal. After passing off that Chinese grown "organic" shit , at full prices. Give me a break already. This guy went corportate and when he did that, he lost his way.
FDA, always on top of the situation.
REGULATION: Death of a Dye.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,945520,00.html
In 1976 my college dorm cafeteria used red pimientos, supposedly color enhanced with Red Dye No. 2, in almost every dish served -- including scrambled eggs and lime jello (made the jello taste like kerosene).
My first year college dorm had a first rate cook that could turn the provisions into fine fare. The slobs that were used to mashed potatoes and gravy and iridescent roast beef pissed and moaned about the food. I stopped her one evening to tell her how much I appreciated her cooking and she broke out in tears. I didn't get it, so I asked her about the emotion. It seems than no one had complimented her on her fine job for years, so she came apart.
The slobs there had no clue on just how good it can be with a cook/overseer that can turn mundane into tasty.
She retired at the end of my one year stay in the dorms. I got four of us to noisily applaud her as she left outside at the end of her career. I knew just how bad mess hall food was prior to her job on us.
After she left , the new cook made emetics for the second semester.
The worst part of it all was how horribly the "liberals" treated the woman with their condescending crap toward her and all that fed and cleaned up after the best and brightest.
That performance of 1970 was my awakening to just how rotten most of the baby boom cohort is. Besides, they stole all of my records that I cared about.
Feck Ben and the rest. Doubleplusfeck Cass Sunstein and the tribe of gombit parasites.
If it was anything like MY college cafeteria food, you were lucky to at least recognize THAT ONE flavor.
My college cafeteria made some pretty delicious chicken crouquets; but I never ate the soup because the creepy old chef would leer at the hot girls as they laddled it into their bowls. As a guy, I had an inkling what the leering was about and what special ingredient might be in the soup.
At least the chicken crouquets had been dry baked at 350 degrees...
Okay, no fluoride added to the supply of my small, left-leaning West Coast city. Not even any other towns in the whole right-leaning county adding fluoride.
However, there's enough chloramine in there to kill multiple organisms.
But if I give up iced tea and switch to gin, am I gaining anything?
i'm in red central CA49 Darrell Issa, who probably repaints that Get Out of The UN Sign over on I15, every year. I am surprised we went along with the reco, but we are more than half Mexican now, and the rich Conservatives all drink imported water. But if the chollos are so dumb to begin with, why pour more stuff into their water supply?
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Screw flouride,
high tension powerlines, bitchez!
I tried brushing with a toothpaste with extra high tension powerlines. It really made my mouth tingle with freshness.
And minty fresh, too, no doubt. Try brushing more often.
and no thread on fluoridation can be complete without a link to Rothbard's revisionist history: http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard85.html
Here is another commentary on Flouride by George Washington that I found on the internet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0he-LZNzVg0
Huh?
Hey George, if they'd had fluoride in the water in your day, maybe you wouldn't have had wooden teeth!
(Of course, you might have busted your hip standing up in that boat on the Potomac.)
Washington's teeth were made of ivory and gold (http://www.goodteeth.com/gwteeth.htm). The brownish color was probably due to staining from drinking red wine.
Hey George
I heard that fluoride dissolves the Corexit in the Gulf of Mexico.
Fluoride bitchez!
Surely you jest, sir, the government only has our best interests in mind. Right?
But then, hey, these are some of the same institutions that thought pumping ozone into schoolhouses was a brilliant idea.
Oh, is that why Amerikans are dumber than,......?
"byproduct of phosphate fertilizer manufacture."
Is that in and of itself supposed to be bad?
Heavy tap water drinker are ya?
Yep, but I have well water, filtered, not softened.
Got Prozac?
It's not just the flouride, when you look at municipal drinking water look at the total trihalomethane (TTHM) level. They're bad actors that are getting a lot of attention as possible carcinogens at very low levels. Not to mention the discovery of antibiotics, anti-depressants and other prescription drugs in muni water.
A decent filtration/purification system is not an option, IMO.
Actually lamont, you can put in a whole-house filter that will filter out most, if not all, organics (THM, etc) and fluoride for around 800 bucks. I will be putting mine in this spring. It uses a bone char tank to remove the fluoride, which says alot as to where in your body the fluoride ingested goes. They also make an alumina based fluoride remover, but that could possibly leach aluminum.
so it is kind of expensive, but your whole house would be fluoride free.
Or, for a couple hundred, you can get a Berkey with the fluoride cartridge.
pods
In a city in Michigan, the local govt pumped and sent the water out at a rate they did not need to use chlorine. They used what they pumped everyday. The Feds stepped in and forced them to use chlorine to insure that the water was "safe". The Feds always have your health in mind, while you get weaker.
for those interested in what they drink, they may also be interested in the the vaccines they receive
http://www.nvic.org/
And just think, the government-approved water is safer now than it has ever been.
I have studied city water in about 25 States. I would not drink any of it. I am a hairdresser that has studied the effects of city water on hair and skin. Will certainly not drink it. All this cancer that is overtaking the nation is a result of many factors. What one drinks is a good part of it.
What? It can't be. The government has my best interest in mind so this is impossible. http://www.fluoridation.com/
"The Hydrofluosilicic acid (about 24% fluoride) used to fluoridate water supplies is a waste product of fertilizer manufacturing. It is highly toxic and corrosive. Because it is industrial grade, the fluoride is contaminated with mercury, lead, cadmium, arsenic, radionucleides, etc."
Sounds almost as bad as those "green" light bulbs we're being forced to buy now.
Pre-1985 kids' books and toys are now illegal (thanks Uncle Sam!) but you have to buy those light bulbs.
LOL: fluoridealert.org
for instance: http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluosilicic-acid.htm
And the quote:
"Fluosilicic acid, which is a classified hazardous waste, is the substance used in 90% of the water fluoridation programs in the United States.
This fact has raised concern amongst health risk assessment scientists at the EPA who have helped draw attention to the fact that the only other place this fluosilicic acid can legally be disposed of is in a hazardous waste facility. As Dr. William Hirzy, Senior Vice President of the EPA's Professionals Headquarters Union, put it, "if this stuff gets out into the air, it’s a pollutant; if it gets into the river, it’s a pollutant; if it gets into the lake, it’s a pollutant; but if it goes right straight into your drinking water system, it’s not a pollutant. That’s amazing!" (1)."
Or one of the main reason they started this whole charade: Cover for the A-Bomb Research: http://www.fluoridealert.org/wastenot414.htm
Maybe a comparison may be drawn between those back in the day toxic emissions that killed and sickened and today's similar events.
It wouldn't be the same crowd running the show, eh?
"Fluosilicic acid, which is a classified hazardous waste, is the substance used in 90% of the water fluoridation programs in the United States."
Know what else is considered hazardous waste by the EPA? Nicotine, saccharin, and epinephrine. And even though it's not a hazardous waste, you really ought to read up on Dihydrogen monoxide.
http://www.dhmo.org/
That being said, this form of fluoride may have some deleterious side effects. However, knowing how the John Bircher nutbars thought that water fluoridation was some type of communist plot, I'll reserve judgement until I research it myself.
Purity of essence, bitchez!
Whoever put that DMHO site togther has a great sense of humor and too much time on their hands.
fluoride is another one of those operation paperclip / cia bullshit acts....ingested fluoride is toxic - it destroys bones and other parts of the body.....it is a lysenko fraud that it has no value...fucktards every where think it is wonderful...
topical fluoride may have some benefits but it is not worth the costs....fuck the totalitarian state....
If the government's been practising eugenics since the 1920's, how come there are so damn many people?
Another example of said sector's efficiency?
What does the government to well? Just add this to the long, long list of things the government has messed up.
hey genius...have you checked the birthrates in areas where flouride is used?