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"Back then he got off"
He apparently got off at around noon today, too. And this is a classic TD-ism: "Also, it appears that being head of major bureaucracy does not automatically mean getting head on an ad hoc basis."
Sarkozy plays dirty. What next? Burial at sea for Strauss-Khan?
BUUUT.....S-K won't go down withouth a fight.
Sarkozy just dug up his own grave. Couldn't expect less from someone with an IQ of 75.
yep Kahn was rumoured to be running for the French Presidential seat.. this heads-up certainly appears to have blown any hopes he had of campaigning!
..if this were an establishment crone it would take weeks to come out of the woodwork, this is very fast from "Police sources" to pull the publicity trigger on this one
clearly a setup, the question is by whom and for what reason
(seriously, this makes no sense)
unless he was staying in a 3* maids work in teams
Why is it automatically a conspiracy?
Maybe the guy is simply an arrogant, asshole, pervert prick.
That would make this the perfect setup.
Don't forget that Strauss-Khan comes from a long line of Jewish money controllers, such as Bernanke and Greenspan. Don't forget Summers or Ruben either. Don't forget Milton Friedman or the Chicago School Boys. Don't forget Bloomberg or Soros or John Paulson, all making billions at your expense.
For all you invested in silver, don't forget Gary Gensler, chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, who is their to hike margins on real money in case you goy get any ideas in your head that you can have real money in this system of QE.
a jew again? hmm....
Yeah, and that damn jew Nixon was the one what took us off the gold standard. And that Jew Roosevelt confiscated gold. And that Jew Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act. And those Jews in the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, Kevin Warsh, Elizabeth Duke, and Sarah Raskin.
Oh wait. None of those people are jews. My worldview--its suddenly shattered.
Napoleon was not Jewish, but things have changed since through the years. And for those who would deny and joke about the positions held in the U.S. financial industry and the key political positions affecting our economic future that are held by Jews would be nothing short of mistaken.
Like Barack Obama, Nixon, FDR and Wilson were controlled by agents of the Rothschilds.
BTW, Napoleon was not Jewish, and it was the Rothschilds who reaped the benefits of Waterloo.
Errrrr, Raskin is a Jewish surname ;)
I am Chumbawamba.
Congress.org: Sen. Jamie Raskin (D-MD 20th District)
Marital Status: Married (Sarah Bloom)
Prev. Occupation: Professor
Prev. Political Exp.: MD Senate, 2007-Present
Education: JD Harvard Law
Birthplace: Washington, DC
"For once I agree with Ferguson. Immediate jumps to conspiracy theories are simply a bright flashing neon sign advertising intellectual laziness.
Still, it doesn't take much to demonstrate that ZH is overloaded with bigoted morons who fall over themselves when given the opportunity to make jokes about sexual assault.
Surely this is the group to garner reasonable investment advice or political commentary from. Alternatives? Why would you want to be anywhere else than a place full of Limbaugh clones? I'll take my responses off the air. Laughs.."
Generalizations? Please feel free to read my previous comments on this site. Each one was triggered by specific comments (usually related to bigotry or hypocrisy) and each has been extrapolated to highlight my overarching argument as stated in the quote above.
Additionally, all the responses that joke further about the sexual assault only add weight to my claim, not detract from it.
I think the word "troll" needs to be defined here. Yes, normally a troll is one who consistently makes a contrararian argument against the majority opinion on a thread; however, these comments made by such an individual usually A) add purposefully inflammatory and discriminatory language, not rationalized critiques B) are only meant to incite and not to analyze.
Conversely, I am analyzing the content here and evaluating it. Yes, it also incites defensive responses - but my goal, despite what many of you may think, is not to incite - it is to inform new members to be critical of the content provided here because of the community's dubious notoriety for bigoted and hypocritical stances. That, and to simply call bigotry and hypocrisy out for its own sake. This would be "trolling" if my claim(s) were untrue - but as demonstrated here in the comments below, there is a compelling reason to believe they are not. If this stimulates conversation on this "open thread", all the better.
I'm hurt, LH. (not really)
First, a side note: Approximately thirty-four weeks ago we had a discussion about U.S. corporate collaboration with Nazi Germany that was respectful and interesting.
Did you miss the progression of my contributions since this conversation? It went something like this:
Initially, I engaged community members like you and had discussions with substantive content;
Then I joined in with more long-term members in lamenting the lack of moderation - particularly since Marla left - as the site became more popular with various wingnut constituencies;
Then I began engaging some of the low quality, trollish comments containing bigoted, homophobic, and misogynistic language.
Subsequently I came to the conclusion that the "community" consistently responded negatively to calling out individual bigots, and observed that these expressed attitudes were getting more consistent and more numerous over time. I argued that this was an inherently hypocritical stance to have, as a group exhibiting this behavior collectively, when the supposed goal of ZeroHedge is to "get the word out to the people" about how individuals, populations, and states were being hurt by widespread corruption and exploitation by predatory megacorporations.
I also found the preponderance of extreme libertarian attitudes hypocritical in conjunction with criticisms of the greediness of large financial institutions -- when basically this libertarian ethos boils down to selfishly ignoring various societal tendencies toward forming cohesive units, which depend upon collectively supported infrastructures and institutions. Apparently this historically observable fact was so unreasonable that it was considered "statist." So to boil down this analysis down: the selfish people are decrying selfishness. Hypocrisy defined.
This brings us to today. Be defensive if you like. I will continue to make these point(s).
Anyone can check your posting history to see you have an agenda. We look forward to your providing evidence that supports such wild claims. Otherwise, please go away.
Newsflash: Most people have at least some modicum of an agenda. Otherwise, total apathy would keep them off the keyboard. I have a point to make; your usage of the word "agenda" is purposefully conspiratorial. Again, this is intellectual laziness on your part.
I would ask you to define your use of the word "wild," but I don't think you have the energy to debate anything; hence your desire for me to stop engaging your faulty logic.
You're a Jew. Right?
nope. agnostic. you?
Maniac - caught with his pants down ... again.
Right here, you claim to be a Jew.
Have you no shame? Do you do serial anti-semite accusations as well?
Great catch Bring It!!!
And no, he has no shame.. He sure is quite the wordsmith though.. There must be a few amongst us dumb enough to be impressed by him..
I concur.....great catch that proves Maniac is a lying POS and intellectual scumbag! All such Trolls should be junked into oblivion.
Your sense of shame is skewed; your bile filled anti-semitic comments are shameful.
Additionally, revisit my comments on trolls.
Finally - thanks for characterizing me as an intellectual - by contrasting yourself, how does that define you? As a mental midget? That sort of limits the scope of this so-called "great catch" you're priding yourself on. Don't let your hand get sore patting yourself on the back.
Again, thank you for proving my point that ZH as a community (note the lack of junks on your comments) supports Nazi knuckleheads like you.
Look duche-bag, it's over. Go back to the boss and tell him you need a new handle. Try again.
He sure is quite the wordsmith though.. There must be a few amongst us dumb enough to be impressed by him..
Kindly keep your praise to yourself. I'd prefer not to have any postive reinforcement coming from racist-apologist asshats such as yourself.
Look up the word shame. I think you'll find the definition closer to the experience you get when you look in the mirror.
Oh my god, I called it. Thanks for this catch. These Jews are everywhere trying to steer the arguments in their favor.
Right. Because the usage of racial constructions of judiasm against an anti-semite is the same as what religion you practice. Good job on your 'scoop'. Anyone else have a jewish grandparent?
Don't worry - I won't spoil the jubiliation of jew haters here. You fools have just proven my point in spades. Your open thread is now (even more) full of non junked anti semitic tripe. Tell me, how many comments does it take to make a generalization?
Actually it is you that have some explaining to do: Why do you think neo nazis like you are allowed to flourish here?
What does religious affiliation have to do with this? This takes the conversation/exchange to a level where intellectual discourse becomes impossible. It also leaves one with a, perhap unintended or incorrect. impression that you'r opinions are based on bigoted stereotypes. Is that how you want to be seen and heard?
This is how the community wants to be seen and heard. The junks speak volumes. There is no neutrality on this thread. Instead, there is a discriminatory attitude that is being presented. That is and continues to be my point.
If he is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk3RHkY6Hms&feature=fvst
You are generalizing :) You take certain biases, and associate them to the entire group. This would make sense, if those properties would indeed apply to 80% of people. They don't.
Examples: Does this thread contain more posts, that assume that it was a trap, than posts that do not make such assumptions? No. In fact, the opposite is the case. But you can of course take the minority posts as an example, and then make an invalid extrapolation
Example 2: Jokes. Really, holy shit, how many websites can you name, where such an article would NOT result in jokes? Is there such a website at all? Surely, this must mean that all websites that post this story are mistrustworthy! Are the jokes among other things disrespectful and sexist? Yes, but can you name websites where this wouldn't happen? I do not mean this as an excuse - in fact, i'm honestly disgusted by the frequent sexism on this site, but not because it is anything unusual on the web, but instead because i would expect something better from THIS community.
Oh, and as for your statement regarding libertarianism. Pure bullshit and not even worth replying to.
Congratulations. You've kicked off Rape Apology day.Feel free to consult Dr. Google on that one.
The existence of other bigotry doesn't let the ones under your nose off the hook; this is faulty logic.
Feel free to not address my criticism of libertarianism. That would make you a typical ZHer. I haven't had a reasonable, substantive debate on that subject since around the time I created this avatar. I don't expect it to start now.
Thanks. Until now i wasn't sure if you just were someone with "weird" arguments, or deliberately trolling. Now i know and can just junk your posts instead of wasting my time with replies.
"Feel free to not address my criticism of libertarianism."
There is no common sense, logic or historical precident to the arguement
what-so-ever. That is why no critique is needed: there is nothing
valid, accurate or thoughtful to critique...
Also, a critique implies you actually care about what other people say
(for your better-ment, I might add),
but your posts and replies imply that you, in fact, do not really care
about anything except your: "overarching argument"...
Which is completely self-induced dementia in the cloak of a "theory".
I'll address your libertarian academic biggotry. First please define an "extreme libertarian" ?
To me a libertarian simply wants freedom in his life (from parasites). Be they Marxists/socialists/progressives or Fascists/corporate monopolists. They want to live free from the totally failed and corrupt State known as 'democratic government', which is no such thing. It is in fact a parasitical monopoly power structure that has been rammed with human scum and an incubator of such throughout its entire stinking, warmongering, bankrupting, totalitarian, ignorant existence
"..this libertarian ethos boils down to selfishly ignoring various societal tendencies toward forming cohesive units, which depend upon collectively supported infrastructures and institutions."
We are free to join packs/herds anytime, whether that be family units, economic units (ie. companies) or social units (the Bird Watchers Club). We are free to join institutions if we so wish, like the Biologists Society, Insititution for the Study of Marxism or The Freedom Fest. There's a difference between free people joining or choosing to leave insitutions and being forced (see the States authoritarian thugs at the Income Tax Dept) as the State does with no free will but by threats of further financial theft (fines) and incarceration (jail) if you do not pay the parasites their constant demands.
There the line is drawn between democracy and tyranny, consent and force, freedom and totalitarism. Understood?
"So to boil down this analysis: the selfish people are decrying selfishness. Hypocrisy defined."
You've clearly got an academic (spaceman) background to get your thinking so twisted and so far up your rectum! Being a libertarian doesn't make you selfish because that would demand something for entirely personal gain off someone else.
We demand only that we are free to live our lives, prosper and propagate (selflessness through self sufficiency). Your demand is we give up our freedom to be robbed by the State. Give up self responsibility to a collective or a 'leadership', some monopoly institution who is free to pick our pockets and abuse our liberty throughout our lives. The usual fuking academic BS nonsense about it being a 'democracy' having representatives decide what's best for us.
Some people are full blown adults boyo, it may be 'news' to you but most of us don't need some bankers rent-boy called Barrack Obumma deciding how to live our lives, what policies on education for our kids, what cars to drive, how much to piss down the toilet on bankrupt trains, wars with foreign people we have absolutely no beef with, bailing out banks that should be bankrupt 3 years ago, what monopoly money system we are forced to use, etc etc etc etc etc etc.
Quite apart from the fact that the State, the Law/judiciary, central banking and 'democracy' has always ended in farce andnever worked once in history to represent anyone exceept its own totalitarian, warmongering, thieving self interest. The State is societies thief/parasite/evil incarnate. Rub your academic idealism (garbage) up against the big stink of Govt reality sometime and you might pull your head of your arse
What a poor way to defend your ethos. Stick with the bird watchers.
Your character attacks and mischaracterizations invalidate your argument. Do you really think anyone but your fellow mooneys is going to take your musings of State, Law/Judiciary seriously right after your "Obumma" comment? You seem to not be able to separate fallacy arguments from philosophical ones. But don't worry - your "community" is behind you with the same mental midget attitude. There aren't going to be many people challenging your bullshit here. I'd venture to bet you're a little more timid when you aren't surrounded by sympathizers.
Poor Maniac. Did you buy the spikes and chase the charts and watched the fiat spot price of silver?
No. Did you?
You're obviously the idiot that has skin in this game.
I strongly agree with your problem with libertarianism. I get sick of making the same point to my libertarian friends but it seems the human desire to chase the next utopia is too strong for some. I don't disagree with the general direction. It's just you need a state (of some sort) to make it work. Of course our current ruling authorities are of dubious quality, but "libertarianism" as a solution is not really very nuanced; it reminds me of "What have the Romans ever done for us?". Reality's a little more complicated than that.
Anybody who claims that libertarianism leads to utopia, doesn't understand libertarianism. True freedom doesn't create a utopia. It creates... well... freedom.
Still my favorite anti-Libertarian argument; the Quixote-ness of chasing Utopias. Embrace imperfection, else you look silly and waste resources. How much imperfection is perfect though, ah this is what separates the men from the boys.
That is a slippery slope argument that yields more platitudes than something someone should take seriously. "Oh we'll never reach perfection therefore it is perfect how things are."
The assumption that you can reach an "ideal" is of course, nonsense, but striving towards the ideal (going towards that direction) is better than either staying static, or worse moving backwards.
Do not look for fish in the treetops.
Research this then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71HSMcT-9LI
OF COURSE the job requires psychopaths, and that's what they are......
Free diagnosis: You are a masochist troll. The web version of a self-loathing, closeted homosexual who yearns for older men to urinate in their face. And you have come to the right place. Enjoy.
Yes, calling someone a troll by utilizing homophobic epithets is surely the way to convince your bigoted friends on ZH that the one person with enough guts to call you and your "community" out on their shit is only doing this for negative attention. If fact, I'm demonstrating that it doesn't take much to completely derail your bigoted circle jerks here and point out the blatant hypocrisy of this website.
This is a community of trolls. A troll breeding ground, if you will. How many of you spend time on other sites spreading this bile-filled hate?
So what have learned here?
A) people like Reese will never have their comments junked to the point where they are removed because the ZH "community" condones hate-filled comments.
B) The presence of numerous bigoted views points fatally undermines the credibility of ZeroHedge
C) Reese probably needs a psyche evaluation of his own.
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