Update: Intraday Attempt To Push Stocks Higher Presents Attractive RISK Spread Compression Opportunity

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Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:02 | 1313399 Gubbmint Cheese
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Thx TD

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 17:30 | 1314523 kengland
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I was under the impression that ZH doesn't trade the ponzi known as the market?

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:03 | 1313408 oogs66
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any more details on the ESBASKET composition in order to be able to buy it? 

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:27 | 1313426 firstdivision
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If I remember correctly, it consists of JPY carries, 10Y, 2-10-30 butterfly, and EURUSD.  If you were to buy it, I'd say go long AUDJPY (but now that Australia looks like a RE bubble I'm a bit worried on the correlation holding). 

*EDIT* looks like it just widened.

Also, don't go long AUDJPY, but 10Y was one that wasn't following.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 16:58 | 1314371 Yen Cross
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 Aud exports, real estate, retail, and tourism are hurting! If I were to buy it I would say short aud against the chf,jpy and gbp! Aud is a spx, commodity correlated currency.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 13:01 | 1313511 jesus_quintana
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Been trying (unsuccessfully) to get an answer on that since ZH started featuring this. Seems like Tyler wants it to remain a trade secret for now. However, a pretty accurate proxy seems to be to rebase each of the individual components to last night's SPX or ES close and use the average (i.e. equal weighting). Currently showing a 9 point divergence v SPX (about 7.5 v ES) on my charts.

Forget trying to buy the basket though, way too complicated/ costly to execute.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 13:26 | 1313683 Nicholaz
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It's not that much of a secret.


And the whole thing seems to be an invention of http://capitalcontext.com/ anyway.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 19:09 | 1314820 oogs66
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Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:54 | 1313584 aint no fortuna...
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When EVERYBODY finds out about the spread divergence as its plastered all over the blogs, guess what?

Ben and Jamie chuckle...

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:09 | 1313419 SheepDog-One
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Hillarious watching the 100% manipulation daily, while 99% of people have no idea. Just walking about in the matrix like ants, oblivious to it all.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:28 | 1313492 augie
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The worst is understanding the manipulation, but being unable to explain its intricacies in a simple yet effective way. I feel like a 3 year old telling its parents it needs to take a shit.


Thu, 05/26/2011 - 16:40 | 1314297 camaro68ss
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should i buy more nextflix or should i dig more silver out of the ground for $5?

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:18 | 1313429 Mercury
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So, in this representation of the phenomenon, is the white line an equally weighted basket/index of the 10y, curve butterfly, EURUSD, AUDJPY, Crude and Gold?

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:12 | 1313431 buzzsaw99
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Sell the Blip?


Alas, poor Yorick, I knew him Horatio. A man of infinite jest. He went 3X short over the weekend and got his head chewed off by a squid.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:23 | 1313475 swissaustrian
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STFB = Sell the fucking blip

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:13 | 1313446 zaknick
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UBS may relocate investment bank outside Switzerland http://reut.rs/l9NStZ 5 minutes ago via dlvr.it

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Think that could have something to do with IMF telling SNB to raise rates when CHF is already choking exports?

I understand Wikileaks (supposedly a cognitive infiltration Rothschild op) got its big publicity break when it revealed tax evasion by Julius Baer clients (who apparently are not part of the bankster KKKlan). Their CEO committed suicide shortly thereafter.

Any truly intelligent life form left on this forum? Anybody interested in what's really going on?

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:18 | 1313468 swissaustrian
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The country's financial watchdog FINMA is pushing UBS, which was one of the biggest casualties of the credit crisis, to set up its risky investment bank as a separate entity outside Switzerland in London, New York or Singapore, the newspaper said.

Swiss regulatory bodies try to enact a rule similar to the volcker-rule. They want to protect swiss taxpayers from the comming ubs (IB) collapse.

UBS´s investment banking core strategy is fixed income, aka road to desaster.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:26 | 1313484 Conrad Murray
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Anybody interested in what's really going on?


Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:16 | 1313447 Archimedes
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fed is running out of Breath. It is only a matter of time now as they cannot keep spiking REITS. QE2 ends June 30th but doesn't the last POMO end June 9th? That might be a good time to put on my shorts.

I think the FED meets in August and then in November. Who is placing bets they announce QE3 in August? I think they wait until November but by then it may be too late as even the dumbest of Americans will realize we are FUBARed.

But by November it may be too late. If the economy is slowing while they are still pumpimg 120 billion a month what happens in July-October? First one out of the pool wins!

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 13:02 | 1313612 Boilermaker
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Agree with that.  I watch the REITs every day and it's just flat amazing how hard they jackhammer the REITs.

Obviously, they're back at it again today and soaring the damn things into the stratosphere.

CRE up another 1%+ today even against the broad market.

I have no earthly f'ing clue how long they can continue it.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 16:27 | 1314263 disabledvet
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Descartes actually compared himself to you Archimedes...but i for one disagree.  "You invented the propeller."  Having said that "i look at 800 dollar tires myself" which is "something the Fed let get out of control."  in short "throwing the entire labor force under the bus still isn't enough to control inflation."  why the market goes up OR down is anyone's guess of course--why prices simply go up on the other hand--well, let's just say "we'll leave you guessing Archimedes."  It does involve the word "screw" however!

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 18:03 | 1314623 Yen Cross
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 It's the masses. My tires cost more. The market is a curve. Research Bollinger Bands.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:14 | 1313450 equity_momo
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Great post.  Be interested in the exact composition of that basket.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:16 | 1313458 rubearish10
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Man, this is like moving furniture on an ant farm.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:17 | 1313461 JW n FL
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Tyler LOVES US! so dont forget to tip the guy that keeps us all in money, when he can!

seriously, if you can squeeze 10k you can write off 5% entertainment for Tyler!

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:18 | 1313466 JW n FL
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shit make it 10% and call it a consulting fee! lol Tyler gets hammered tax wise any way!

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:18 | 1313467 LawsofPhysics
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Thanks TD.  This is similar to your last post, ESM1 correcting to ESBASKET ahead of the close, correct?

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 13:40 | 1313746 Nicholaz
Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:22 | 1313471 camoes
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Market efficiency bitchez!

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:19 | 1313472 101 years and c...
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the Fed needs to give the banks free money, one way or the other. buying ES higher lets the bank sell at better prices.


Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:39 | 1313529 buzzsaw99
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flip that e-mini-me?

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:24 | 1313477 camoes
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Might as well buy silver with the basket..

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:33 | 1313503 rajc
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wish i knew how to program this in tradestation...anyone..anyone? :)

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:34 | 1313512 chaunceyG
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why does the divergence always happen at roughly the same time of day??

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:31 | 1313513 MrTrader
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Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:36 | 1313520 shockadelika
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Thanks TD

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:59 | 1313599 LawsofPhysics
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Wow, the spikes in the VIX correlate nicely with the beginning of QE1 and QE2 operations. duh.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:46 | 1313556 JW n FL
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I need an esquire to File Suit in Federal Court Against the U.S. Government.. more over the President of the United States of America. Pro Bono in the name of Fight Club!


The Law Suit is for breach of the Constitution for bringing home the U.S. Army and now Training the U.S. Army to operate Against "We the People".


Who wants to get some T.V. face time for themselves and for Tyler here.. we want warm bodies to educate we have to up our visible profile.


I am looking for feedback and ideas to make as big a splash as possible! so if you have something that will help, speak up! even if you think its small! speak up! every little thing matters and helps! SO PLEASE!!! Speak Up!


Thu, 05/26/2011 - 13:01 | 1313604 slaughterer
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Thanks Tyler, shorting the roach motel intraday for the third time after your risk compression posts.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 13:04 | 1313620 coscorra
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 Does anybody know for sure how FRBNY makes S&P go up? Do they directly buy the futures, sell puts or....? Can they legally do that? how is the flow of money from the fed to the spx? I quite agree that such strength in SP smells suspicious, and i stopped last a few months ago trying short it but i have yet to hear the complete explanation on how they do it.  Can anyone help?

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 13:28 | 1313639 Rick64
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Short the ES @1322 12:10 CT and short @1324 12:23 CT

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 13:32 | 1313716 augie
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please tell me your stop is above 1336

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 14:02 | 1313806 Rick64
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Out @ 1322.75 looks like it might break that 1325 area.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 14:22 | 1313872 augie
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you gonna get back in on the way down? 3pm the selling starts.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 14:31 | 1313885 Rick64
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Maybe, waiting for a better entry it just broke thru 1325. Gotta wait and see if it sets up for a short, I think your right that the selling will be in the A.H. session.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 15:13 | 1313989 augie
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jesus hop scotching christ can we just break this stupid 1323 baby-back-bullshit and hit 1306 already?

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 15:33 | 1314049 Rick64
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Lol. Short @ 1326.5

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 15:54 | 1314117 augie
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nice entry. looks like after hours it is. Sorry i'm tradin spy puts and won't be able to share in the excitement of the dreaded 4 point range.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 15:59 | 1314137 Rick64
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I'm out @ 1323.50 2:58 CT . I don't like trading A.H. can't trade as many contracts because of margin req.

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