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Update: Rebels Reject Offer; Latest Libya Development: Gaddafi Offers Rebels To Hold People's Congress To Let Him Step Down With Guarantees
And the imminent update, which is just as expected: "AL JAZEERA SAYS INTERIM REBEL GOVT REJECTS GADDAFI OFFER OF MEETING TO CONSIDER HIS RESIGNATION"
Just out from Reuters: "AL JAZEERA SAYS GADDAFI OFFERS REBELS TO HOLD PEOPLE'S CONGRESS TO LET HIM STEP DOWN WITH GUARANTEES"
Following today's escalation in fighting the probability of any dialogue is exactly zero but let's see what this rumor does to crude prices.
More from Reuters:
Al Jazeera television reported on Monday that Muammar Gaddafi has proposed to Libyan rebels to hold a meeting of the country's parliament to pave the way for him to step down with certain guarantees.
The television quoted sources for the report, which it ran as a flash on its news ticker during a broadcast. It gave no further details.
It said Gaddafi proposed the meeting of the General People's Congress, or parliament, to the interim council based in the rebel-controlled city of Benghazi.
So just another rumor for the time being. So far the credibility of any Gaddafi permanent resignation rumors is #notwinning.
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Yes, but Warner Bros just FIRED CHARLIE SHEEN!!!
Let's see what THAT does to crude prices!
Shit, that means the Indians will have another bad year.
Cleveland, Native or Asian?
Cleveland, Casino, or Asian?
AL JAZEERA has it masters and its agenda. They are not any better than BBC, ABC or NPR.
They are all manipulators and liars.
Correct...
They used to be called freedom fighters....now they call them rebel....someone made a call.
freedom fighters == on script
rebels == off script
Libyan [FREEDOM FIGHTERS not] [rebels]
read about it here: http://www.degaray.com/misc/137_136_LibyaRealtime.html
All part of the same Zionist filth
Beware the Days of Purim 19-20th March 2011
That means he'll have more time to spend in Haiti.
First an earthquake and now Sheen.
I fell sorry for them.
I'm cetain his buddy Sean Penn thinks this may offer him a chance to rehabiliatate his image, but I doubt he'll be of much help I or learn anything.
The people of Haiti are such "loosers".
It is "losers".
WINNER, WINNER, WINNER, WINNER.........!!!!!!
John Galliano will no longer be the face of Christian Dior after a video showing him shouting “I love Hitler” in a drunken rant sent “shock waves through the start of Paris Fashion Week” - leading to his ouster on allegations of bigotry after his 15-year reign as Dior’s mastermind of creation. Not to let PC interfere with the flow of money, however, Dior will go ahead with its Galliano-designed falll-winter 2011-12 collection.
Oscar-winning Natalie Portman, the new advertising face of the Miss Dior Cherie perfume line,” who is Jewish, expressed fury over the remarks,” according to the AP March 2.
Apparently the “shock” was just too much for Dior CEO Sidney Toledano, who “was deeply hurt because he’s Jewish.”
After police investigated Galliano, accused by a couple “of hurling anti-Semitic insults at them at La Perle, a café in Paris’ Marais district – a hip neighborhood known for its sizable gay and Jewish populations" - another woman came forth accusing Galliano of anti-Semitic insults in October at the same brasserie.
The AP reports that “making anti-Semitic remarks can bring up to six months in prison in France; Galliano appeared in a Paris police station Monday to face the accusations.”
Meanwhile, to continue with the lynching… Anthony Gregory writes today in his piece: “The Cannibalization of Charlie Sheen”:
“That Charlie Sheen has been the biggest national story, while the Arab world is aflame with revolution and the U.S. marches toward ever more war and economic disaster, is not the most remarkable thing. What is most striking is how easily so many line up behind a consensus that someone ought to be the butt of all jokes and the focus of everyone’s mockery and outrage…
“To add to the perfect storm, the TV star has violated one of the greatest doctrines of political incorrectness. Although Sheen himself is Jewish, he has committed the grave sin of involuntary anti-Semitism. This piece in the Telegraph, drawing a bizarre link between Sheen, the Pope and Julian Assange, describes the key allegation as "Charlie Sheen’s renaming of the producer of his former sitcom Chuck Lorre as ‘Chaim Levine’, carrying with it as it does two suggestions: one, that Jews are the controlling forces behind the US media, and two, that they have disguised this fact about themselves and need to be outed."
Gregory concludes:
“But the confluence of factors in the media’s sacrifice of Charlie Sheen tells us more about the media than about the man. There is something rotten in our mass culture. It is the stench of an establishment that pushes a flavor of social progressivism upon the country while reserving the right to burn social heretics at the stake on even the most hypocritical of pretenses.
“And it is against this establishment’s witchhunt and all its nefarious social consequences that a defense must be waged. Most certainly, it can be argued that Sheen has not acted virtuously. But the attacks on him have clearly been more distasteful, more pathetic, more indicative of a society in decline, than his own behavior. For the crimes of drug use, sexual deviance, and political incorrectness, a great talent has been thrown under the bus by a drug addled, sexually deviant, socially insensitive, politically clueless mass media and liberal culture. They have eaten one of their own. It has happened many times before, to Robert Downey, Jr., Britney Spears, Tiger Woods, and now Christina Aguilera. And it will happen again. And if even the most handsomely paid actor on TV is helpless against the official pop culture’s hypocritical lynch mob, what hope do any of us little people have should the mob decide we too deserve to be lynched?”
http://www.lewrockwell.com/gregory/gregory206.html
ZH commenter, Redstone, about summed it up today on “Goldman Now 3 Out of 5 in World Monetary Domination: Goldmanite to Replace Andrew Sentence at Bank of England”:
“The Goldmanites/Rothschilds control the message and now have operational control of much of the world’s commerce. It gets to a certain point that the injustices from this speech bondage and financial incest - which some call the Jewish Brotherhood - cannot be tolerated and it breaks.
“It’s indefensible.
“The key to this power has been UNLIMITED access to the fiat world reserve currency.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/goldman-now-3-out-5-world-monetary-domi...
Galliano/Sheen ... let the fake anti-semitism stategy begin...yawn.
Fill the media with fake anti-semitism nonsense in order to prevent their real crimes against humanity being exposed.
No one is falling for it.
Imagine a world without the Khazars....not long now.
http://thewhaler.wordpress.com/
We know what Galliano said; what we don’t know is what the two “injured parties” said to Galliano.
Of course, anybody sane knows Galliano doesn’t “love” Hitler; it was a caustic remark, but it makes an excellent headline to keep the sheeple in check.
yes but post WW2, US and UK jews were so powerful that they succeeded in making epithets against them a crime.
It won't last forever, but wtfever
FUCK!!! Go-Daffy!!!!
Kill!!! Go-Daffy!!!! Guarantee him a bullet or the end of a rope!
Decision decisions... but why do they have to choose?
Sucks to be Ghadaffi today. But not for the past 40 years.
God-Awful should be guaranteed a public hanging.
Maybe they'll hang him upside down like Mussolini?
I prefer guillotines.
There is a good comedy routine in this somewhere.
The Knights of Ni come to mind, sorta...
Or Abbott+Costello
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW_qa6swnOM
Who indeed ...
Ve have vays of dealing mit chew, mein Liebchen;)
Or the Knights who say "Ekke, Ekke, Ekke, Ekke, P'tang, Zoo, Boing!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d6t6jOte-w&feature=related
Its got to be "Brave Sir Daffy Ran Away.." doesn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/v/BZwuTo7zKM8?fs=1&&start=60
US govt you can keep a fraction of what you have if you leave, or you can keep it all if you just get those fuckin protesters under control. The black gold goin through the roof, we cant have all the natives gittin restless
Restless while gaining the awareness that any gov is nothing more than a well-armed mob.
"Interim rebel government," what a hoot!
Ah. Trader senses tingling ... tomorrow will open green ...
If he steps down (with or without guarantees) it encourages others in the region to revolt... higher oil prices.
If he doesn't step down... the civil war escalates... higher oil prices.
You mean like that?
I mean green like nobody bothers looking more than 24 hours down the road these days green.
or .2 nanoseconds, depending... on your preferred status.
And that depends a lot on whether you are carbon-based or silicon-based.
Yea, carbon based = +.02ms.
carbon-based with tools...
Guarantee request # 1 ....no extradition to the USSA
Guaranteed by Smith and Wesson.
The recovery is back on! :-)
Celebrate!!
What guarantee? That they won't cut his head off and parade around Tripoli with it on a stick?
Arab League (aka KSA): time to GTFO, we don't need our subjects getting any ideas.
If he goes quietly, he will be well-compensated, probably the Hague/World Court takes a pass on the war crimes, maybe some more payola for various politicians for lockerbie cover and a modest additional survivors' cash.
Gaddafi's jets slow rebel advance on Sirte The Guardian - 1 hour ago Libyan jets have launched multiple strikes on opposition fighters near the oil city of Ras Lanuf in a counterattack designed to halt the rebel advance on Muammar Gaddafi's hometown, Sirte. Sure like he has antyhing to lose.... One way or another he will be canceled and i bet he understands this. There will be no stop nor negotiances.
Fighter jets - of 10 targets they missed 9. Well trained those troops with military gear that's 20+ years old.
Rebels will win, motivated by hope for change unlike Gaddafi's side by monetary bonuses. He might keep Tripolis and it's surroundings for some years, unless change comes from Nato and US. No fly zone = attack of a sovereign nation.
Remember USA 2008 - same story - bad outcome
The absolute simplest and easiest solution to the jets problem is to spread around several hundred shoulder launched anti-air missiles.
Shoot down a dozen or so fighter/bombers and then see how many more would still want to play. I believe the Soviets found it quite bad for pilot moral.
Cheap, easy solution and doesn't involve any of the issues involved with a no fly zone.
So of course it wont be considered for a moment.
(them craaazy ragheads might sell them to Al Qaeda afterall)
Also, doesn't give western powers the option of getting involved in dictating developments.
Sure sign he's bout to lose it all - absent air power, he's a dead man.
Like Louis XVI calling the Estates General when he needed them.....they cut off his head later too
UPDATE:
See, these rebels have no clue. Now me I would have invited him to negotiations, offered him a comfortable chair and a smoke ... and then machine-gunned him with his nurses and his entire staff.
Christ. I guess I'm going to have to go over there myself and straighten that mess out.
I really doubt Gaddafi would come to the rebels. He would make the rebels come to him and do the machine-gunning. If I was a rebel, I wouldn't get within a mile of that psycho unless I had adequate backup and then some. Who knows what he's capable of in defeat.
The nurse left last week. He's toast...
Rumor....Hugo just sent his private jet to Libya to pick up the colonel..........
gadaf s got fuck you money. He's outta there. Load the plane
For a small fee I will return him.. or for an add on.. I will make him dead upon request.. and for yet another add on I will make him dead in away that makes the client happy.. and yet another add on, I will record the process for the clients viewing pleasure... although I will retain all rights to the recording... unless???? for yet another fee the client would like to own the rights to the recording of the death made to order.
I am an American after all, show me the physical...
note: no fiat / paper money will be accepted as payment...
note: no payment will be accepted within the US or US held territory (for tax reasons)...
And for everything else... there is Mastercard.
Is this terrible for PM?
So if he goes oil down $25 and SPY up 10%
Headz on polez, bitchez!
delete
Update to the Update:
Gaddafi Says 'Nyah-Nyah' - Rebels Tell Mom
Please. Al-Jazeera IS the MI-6 Jinn - every unemployed disenfranchised sand sifting camel jockey in the ME knows it. No wait. They are all too busy following Bernard Lewis on Twitter.
Just who exactly inside "the rebels" would Q-daffy negotiate with at this time?
I'm sorry to say it, but I am almost rooting for Il Duce di Africa at this point.
Its like watching Bad Lieutenant (the good one with Harvey Keitel) for the tenth time. You can't take your eyes away.
These "reports" are for the Time Magazine and Newsweek crowd.
If the SAS can't catch a Benghazi cab to negotiate with "the rebels," why would a 42 year dictator with air-dominance need to capitulate with anyone? Maybe after a TLAM takes out Pleasure Dome No. 19, but I got 10 more days to go on the Colonel's Dead Pool.
No, actually they are in Sheen's Corner.
1. Not clear who will win now
2. Not clear who will win if regime loses.
3. US/NATO can't go in to tilt outcome without UN
4. Russia says they don't want intervention.
So even if Moammar leaves nothing is really settled could ( probably will) have civil war.
Resignation from what? He doesn't hold any office. I'm so confused.
Also, his army apparently consists of ack-ack mounted on 1980s pickup trucks. WTF could his air force consist of?
He really does a shitty job of keeping up the pretense that government is necessary.
Air force *was* actually fairly substantial, at least for use on your own populace. 120 MiG-23s, 40 Su-22 ground attack aircraft, around 35 Mi-24 Hind helicopters.
No idea how many have been captured.
All would be meat in the air for FA-18s.
Military does not have a distinguished history... thrashed by Chadians with SAW mounted in Toyota pickups a few years back.
Those Russian anti aircraft guns are works of art. I wish we could have those. I am jealous they can run and get them and then use them in this endeavor. So typical of Russian stuff, simple yet effective.
Yeah, but it's a bitch when you run over a nail and there isn't a tire store for 100 miles.
I got jealous when I saw the rebels playing around with AP ammo belts for those anti aircraft guns. Damn , most people don't realize the money involved in just one of those long ammo belts....
Now a new version of the Russian anti tank guns , PRG 32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3IrssGxuFE&feature=related
sweet.........
They only show the hits on that, the misses/screwups must be something to behold.
The rebels are out there firing those anti aircraft guns, fooling around and wasting ammo. Gads, money down the drain, if you ask me.......ha ha ha
Had to check: Libyan Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
All fighter (most of which double as trainers) designs date from early 70s to the late 50s! Most of the more advanced (for the 70s) are grounded or missing.
Those Mirages that flown to Malta were good quality equipment and he wants his stuff back too. The two pilots will be hired by someone since their knowledge is worth a lot of money.
DEAD.GOATHERDER.CRAWLING
1,000,000 refugees.....................
http://nakedempire.wordpress.com/
The stupid, insane Gawdawffi doesn't know he's already dead.
Note to other dictators:
Using MBTs and airstrikes against your own civilian populace will generally make them ill-disposed toward you when negotiating concessions.
I'll bet those military jets only have enough fuel to get to the target and back, certainly not enough to make it to a foreign airstrip. No parachute for you bitchez!
So the Saudis can't cool crude by saying they'll bump output. They can't cool it by starting the "Daffy is looking to step down rumor."
Barry can't cool it by saying we're looking into no fly zones, rebel assistance, etc. That's a great one by the way. Why would Barry risk supporting the rebels when they could turn into a less organized Hamas or the like? US will provide humanitarian assistance and in my opinion nothing else of importance. Certainly no military aid.
All very bullish for oil/PMs. $110 by Thursday?
Because, well, that strategy just worked so damned well in other places, such as Afghanistan.
110 oz of silver, Check
six 30 round .223 clips, Check,
2k rounds of .223, 2k rounds of .22, 1k rounds .45, Check
2 month supply of MRE's and water, Check
Tactical gear, platform, boots, Equipment like im going into Iraq style, Check
Seed Bank, Check
I still feel im not ready
The MREs are going to hurt you if that is all you are eating. Ask a soldier who has had those and nothing else. The pain of evacuation is legendary, soldiers lose weight when they eat those and nothing else, I could go on and on. Can you mix up your storage food some?
You did not list your lead delivery system, I assume you are not throwing the bullets.
The platform boots are probably really sexy but sort of impractical when you are on the run, but damn that's some serious style, I want a pair too. ;-)
of course its my AR-15 with my glock .45 as a side arm. and yes i have a shit ton of canned food of sorts. I understand the complacations of a low cal intake but im also not planning on running around all day. if worst comes to worst I load up all my shit and head to the family Ranch in the high Mt woods. Fresh water and all the Deer you can eat
and for the boots, Hey i want to look tall when the world ends. lol No the "platform" is my load bearing vest with camile pack, storage for my primary and sencondairy clips and gun sling. NO ONE is going to want to fuck with me
AR too, need more training though. Glock 19, 9mm. Ladysmith 38 for evening walks. Others. :-) Food. Water purification systems (back ups and on the run). Some water stored but not 2 mos. I am not nearly as tacticool as you sound. Got all the relevant docs in a bugout bag. Jealous of your fallback spot. I have none. Looking into Ham radio, night vision, body armor. Can't seem to pull the trigger yet. Got seeds and garden.
You probably know about FerFals blog.
http://ferfal.blogspot.com/
Knocked me out of some of my apathy reading what happened when Argentina collapsed.
Nice list, yeah my next purchase is a Hammy, body armor i dont think i can get in my state, i looked into and i have to be a cop.
Have not heard of the blog, ill check it out.
When the lights go out, fill your bath,sinks and any containers you have full of water. chances are you will lose tap water the next day.
I would say you have a 10hr span of eather staying or bugging out. once the panic steps in after ten hours your not going anywhere. roads will be jamed FYI
you're off your rocker.
The lights won't go out and the water will still be running.
The rest of this crap...wtf do you think, this is Call of Duty or something? LOL...you ain't bulletproof, kid
Of course the lights will go out - the only question is when.
what are you talking about? there is a wather shortage in america too! when the goverment runs out of money who is going to man the pumps for free??? no one! whos going to clean your shit water and filter it.... no one.
I never said i was bullet proof and i dont play call of duty so no. its called readyness if this country ever turns into a shit hole mad max style.
Vitamins, Katadyne water filter and antibiotics ... dont leave home without them.
Have you ever tried mountain house?
You'll be trading the silver and .223 for toilet paper in 72 hours.
You need 6 months of food - waiting for your garden to grow.
The Apocalypse needs women.
I guess ill have to go buy some TP tomorrow so that that.
and about food. its called hunting and fishing on the family land. something im sure you know nothing about. Ill be rolling in TP, Silver, and food in no time
Jimmy Carter and Jesse Jackson heading over to negotiate. (sarcasim)
Give yourself some credit there. It's a good guess that's exactly where they are headed.
People's Congress - isn't that what started all the trouble in the first place?
http://www.speroforum.com/a/49367/China--Libya---Heavy-losses-for-Chines...
Chinese taking the pipe on investments in Libya.
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A woman says that a man must die to self.........
lol
Pop quiz: who has killed more people in the past six months, Qadaffi or Obama?
All this talk about removal, extradition, insanity, etc. can just as easily apply to the US as it does to Libya. I gotta hand it to any mainstreamer who can keep a straight face while denouncing the "violence" in Libya.
I agree with your assessment, Pants.