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US Aircraft Carrier Deployment Update - February 9

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Thu, 02/10/2011 - 19:57 | 951396 Cleanclog
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Entreprise and Kearsarge - like I said on a post 2 days ago and got dissed for.  Stratfor does a good job with this info.  And as I said on an earlier post today, I doubt that these two ships and their soldiers will be adequate to assure Suez passage continuity if the Egyptians massively erupt against perceived government.

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 19:59 | 951407 SayTabserb
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Shades of 1956. With the stakes in the region just a tiny bit higher. And the population tripled.

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 20:10 | 951449 Haywood Jablowme
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WW3 baby....let's do this.  Without death, there is no life.


Thu, 02/10/2011 - 20:27 | 951503 spinone
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Hope you're being sarcastic

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 20:43 | 951560 GreenSideUp
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I hope it's sarcasm too.  But if not, he can head on down to the local recruiter and sign up to be a bullet sponge. 

Just sayin'.

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 22:07 | 951814 william the bastard
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And to think that in the Vietnam war days being gay was an exemption from service.

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 22:52 | 951934 Fish Gone Bad
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WW3 just like that.  Now that is why I really hate all that bullshit history they teach in school.  War does not just "break out" and a world war has even less chance of breaking out. 

Now with everyone unhappy in Egypt, and if the Suez shuts down, then we have the making of a good size conflict.  Even then, it would take maybe 6 months to get people situated for a good conflict to start up.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 01:23 | 952142 zwscott33
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The great war broke out almost 100 years ago. We still can't even expain its origins. Dont fall victim to the normalcy bias

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 01:29 | 952149 edotabin
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Come on..... we all know it was because they killed the Duke of Earl.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 07:41 | 952313 equity_momo
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Of course we can.

In a nutshell:

The UK-US axis were paranoid about an emerging super power alliance between germany and russia , which would have total control over central asia and be able to leverage that power over the rest of the World , including the naval empire of the UK (and the new kid on the block , the US)     

There were concerted efforts by British officials to provoke a war between these two potential allies through all manner of double dealings. Germany fell into the trap and declated war on Russia Aug 1st 1914- that was the defining moment of the 20th Century.

The UK had some first rate sh*t stirrers and still does.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 09:52 | 952420 dogbreath
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some serbian douche assasinated the archduke

Austria mobilised against Serbia

Russia mobilised against Austria

Germany mobilized against Russia

Big sucking sound


Fri, 02/11/2011 - 09:55 | 952425 optimator
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Win with Winnie, the dominant influence on that century.  My dear old Dad used to say that in Germany in 1914 the consensus among the common folks was, "The machine gun has made war impossible". 

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 08:46 | 952339 ageofreason
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Now see the bullshit that has been pulled over your eyes...the pawns have been manuvered over the chessboard of the middle east for years and you don't even see it.

First, will be the revolution and once the protection controls that have been put in for security (puppet regimes and kingdoms) are erased the great war will start.

All the middle east needs is a fuse and the whole will be burning.

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 23:14 | 951969 Fish Gone Bad
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Fri, 02/11/2011 - 00:49 | 952110 High Plains Drifter
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now they have

don't ask because we don't care.

its a gay world and we are all in it.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 03:09 | 952225 Haywood Jablowme
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3 tours.  Done my f'in part for the world police.  Just sayin' =P


Thu, 02/10/2011 - 22:05 | 951812 cosmictrainwreck
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talk is cheap. on an anonymous blog, even cheaper....maybe fiat cheap

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 03:03 | 952218 Haywood Jablowme
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Cheap is good.  Me love them chineses trinkets.  I sell to stupid yankee boys at 500% margin.


Fri, 02/11/2011 - 01:33 | 952158 Hugh G Rection
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Me's an armchair chickenhawk too! I want some HD explosions and buildings gett'n dropped on fools!


Better go service my wood...

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 03:06 | 952220 Haywood Jablowme
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Booyah biznitches!  We can watch sky light up like chinese firecracker.  Yes, me service wood also.


Thu, 02/10/2011 - 21:10 | 951652 WestVillageIdiot
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Somebody wake up Eisenhower.  We could really use him now. 

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 22:36 | 951891 william the bastard
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Monty needs his ass kissed again?

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 23:17 | 951974 hbjork1
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I liked Eisenhower, thought he was a man for the times and a better President than he got credit for.  But you have one on the scene today that, IMO, is just as good in Petraeus.  He is very smart, in good physical condition and doesn't have a political "axe to grind".  The establishment would probably want him shunted aside and if they couldn't, fight him tooth and nail.  You would have the kind of thing that was done to McCain in South Carolina only it would start earlier.  Petraeus wouldn't be manipulatable. 


Thu, 02/10/2011 - 23:41 | 952019 william the bastard
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McChrystal for President

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 00:43 | 952103 Rusty Shorts
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You guys are lost, start here >>>



Fri, 02/11/2011 - 10:22 | 952481 michigan independant
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I started rereading Alfred Marshall. The guy who instructed the keynesian's. As for the link it conveys reality that to few discern. A few coworkers 'idealogues' started oozing all this crap that reagan was was problem? I shit you not that these sheep are beyond redemption on Global issue.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 13:13 | 953170 tamboo
Thu, 02/10/2011 - 22:11 | 951796 TruthInSunshine
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Gonzalo Lira & Nicole Foss are debating Hyperinflation vs. Hyperdeflation right now - streaming live:


Fri, 02/11/2011 - 09:01 | 952352 jus_lite_reading
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Ding ding ding! Round two folks. That map looks like a game plan from Zhu... oh, nevermind. Did I tell you they called check mate already?

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 20:59 | 951620 Buck Johnson
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I agree with you, those ships where moved to protect the Suez canal in a hurry on both sides of it.  It won't be enough, but they will be a vanguard. 

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 23:01 | 951866 Kitler
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Close, but no cigar.


The official plan is to transfer power to Suleiman who will then crush the freedom movement if minor appeasement will not suffice. If however the Egyptian revolution succeeds, by-passing the miltary power structures, then Israel will have both a major problem, and opportunity.

Netanyahu has long criticised the return of the Sinai to Egypt. Likudniks on the whole yearn for a greater Israeli state. An open border with hostile or pro-Palestinian neighbors is an unthinkable EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO ISRAEL.

Israeli troops will take the Sinai to protect the Suez for the world, and of course, themselves.

The preparations have been, as you will see, ongoing. Israel now just needs to be attacked. (By others preferably, but if not, it will attack itself)






Thu, 02/10/2011 - 23:13 | 951973 TBT or not TBT
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I'm very OK with that desert not being in a reconfigured Egypt's hands, for the record.

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 23:39 | 951995 Kitler
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It would be a wonderful place for Israel to forcibly remove the Palestian population to. And the weather there is great since it rarely rains. Plus it has gas and oil deposits.

Optionally they could build a security wall around the freshly settled Palestinians and take away their land again.

Old habits die hard



Thu, 02/10/2011 - 21:06 | 951639 UpShotKnotHoleGrable
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stratfor is pure shyt SS-N-22 Sunburn BItchezzzz



Thu, 02/10/2011 - 22:37 | 951894 papaswamp
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Thought the Egyptians used RGM-84L/3?

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 22:14 | 951823 New_Meat
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You 'n me kid.  Although you weakened your argument beyond repair by saying "soldiers."

RR-no offense meant nor intended ;-)

To get just a skosh of the flavour: http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/soldier_and_sailor_too.html

- Ned

[ed. for the poem reference]

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 23:20 | 951983 Cleanclog
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NM - You're so right.  Urgh . . . soldiers, sailors, troops, units, platoons - I am not fluent in the proper terms and I apologize.  No offense meant to any one who serves.  

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 23:40 | 951996 New_Meat
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just a thing, kinda' 'inside baseball.' ;-)

[ed. but my points here and below are that just as in financial arenas where '33 Liberty' means a location for a set of specific operations, {and I am truly New_Meat in that realm!} DoD has established in its structures certain capabilities.  So a) I have a chance to learn here and b) have a chance to comment (while having a spot o' fun) on things where, well, I'm kinda' older, tough, stringy.  Think of your family relations.  Military units are structured to feed off of those types of relationships.  Good units (like good companies) make great improvements in their performance through taking advantage of this.

So the capabilities that we care about are not about any single ship or unit.  Rather about the integrated capability of the Task Force.  And just as any physical entity has limits, military organizations have capabilities that they have been designed to fulfill under particular conditions.  For  instance, running a NEO requires a benign environment.  Period.  Stop.]

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 19:56 | 951397 SayTabserb
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It's our little way of saying we're here to make sure we're okay.

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 19:58 | 951402 Richard Head
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Looks like pretty normal CVN ops to me.  One east coast carrier (Enterprise) doing a typical Med cruise, while the Lincoln is probably relieving the Vinson (or vice versa).  There is usually some overlap in the Gulf before one carrier heads home.  Whether the offgoing carrier actually gets to leave on schedule is another question! 

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 20:40 | 951546 william the bastard
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OIL says!.........meh


Thu, 02/10/2011 - 21:12 | 951660 WestVillageIdiot
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"One east coast carrier (Enterprise) doing a typical Med cruise"

I wonder if those mamby-pambies booked through Priceline.  Maybe that is why that stock is so fucking high.  It all makes sense now. 

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 22:16 | 951835 New_Meat
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Yep, got a real deal on "Grey-Boat Cruise Lines".  "Why look at all of the space on the Hanger-Deck, let's see, oh, yes, that's where all the dudes and dudettes get to hang around.  Cool.  And hey, look, Dear, they have this resort called 'Steel Beach.'"

- Ned

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 01:33 | 952157 Richard Head
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That's the vernacular: "Med cruise" or "Westpac cruise."  Your moniker is apropos.

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 22:51 | 951930 ExpendableOne
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The Kearsarge is where it is to evacuate the embassy.  The carriers look like a pretty typical setup.  Our government has no clue what is going on in Egypt now, why should we believe they would have planned anything in advance?

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 23:15 | 951975 TBT or not TBT
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Guess the current administration doesn't have a hotline with the illuminati.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 01:13 | 952132 StychoKiller
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Anyone else get the impression that Obamatron is starting to resemble Carter?

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 05:28 | 952279 stopthenewworldorder
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seeing as brzezinski is his handler just like with carter that is no surprise!

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 19:59 | 951406 Id fight Gandhi
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Israel and Obama stand by to demand democracy in Egypt. Who's their favored puppet?

Thu, 02/10/2011 - 20:10 | 951448 Cleanclog
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Were surprised by Mubarak today. Bad omen.  White House has gone radio silent while try to get "everyone in our foreign policy statements" to utter a unified voice.  Delicate and not much time.  Sun rising in a few hours in Egypt.

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