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"The US Dollar Has Failed. We Need To Delink."

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Remember all that pooh-poohing when the gulf states were talking about their own currency?  About how silly that would be?  That it would never happen?  Yeah well, sort of looks like it might.  True, there is a deep and very comfortable denial in the United States such that the country can spend anything it wants, pump debt to any level it likes, play whatever games it wishes with the way it counts spending, and still enjoy the benefits of a reserve currency indefinitely.  That denial may be just about ready to hit reality:

“The Gulf monetary union pact has come into effect,” said Kuwait’s finance minister, Mustafa al-Shamali, speaking at a Gulf Co-operation Council (GCC) summit in Kuwait.

 

The move will give the hyper-rich club of oil exporters a petro-currency of their own, greatly increasing their influence in the global exchange and capital markets and potentially displacing the US dollar as the pricing currency for oil contracts. Between them they amount to regional superpower with a GDP of $1.2 trillion (£739bn), some 40pc of the world’s proven oil reserves, and financial clout equal to that of China. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Qatar are to launch the first phase next year, creating a Gulf Monetary Council that will evolve quickly into a full-fledged central bank.

 

The Emirates are staying out for now – irked that the bank will be located in Riyadh at the insistence of Saudi King Abdullah rather than in Abu Dhabi. They are expected join later, along with Oman.

 

The Gulf states remain divided over the wisdom of anchoring their economies to the US dollar. The Gulf currency – dubbed “Gulfo” – is likely to track a global exchange basket and may ultimately float as a regional reserve currency in its own right. “The US dollar has failed. We need to delink,” said Nahed Taher, chief executive of Bahrain’s Gulf One Investment Bank.

Well, Ben is certainly Man of the Year for proponents of a Gulf currency.




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Wed, 12/16/2009 - 11:56 | Link to Comment jedwards
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At first I thought the headline said "The US Dollar has failed.  We need a drink."

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:11 | Link to Comment Anton LaVey
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Ironic, considering these are islamic countries, where alcohol is (nominally) prohibited.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:53 | Link to Comment fiasco
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is it irony or wit?  i don't know-a

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:36 | Link to Comment Steak
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HaHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, dangly parts

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Daedal
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At first I thought the headline said "The US Dollar has failed.  We need a drink."

I think you just 1'UPed Marla. Cheers!

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 16:06 | Link to Comment knukles
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Hah hah hah hah hah hah hhhhaa ahahha.  Giggle giggle snort snort 

Now that is funny. 

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:01 | Link to Comment SDRII
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Most intersting is that the uae derailed this last go and so happens Cheney if recollection serves was in the region before the objected over location of central bank? Kind of interesting considering the lawsuit over city on fraud and the back peddling of the kuwaitis not to mention the results of the iraq oil auctions. As The chorus grows louder draws for a action on Iran one can understand why....

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:06 | Link to Comment docj
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Note the timing - looks like they're trying to launch the Gulfo at just about the time the Euro may be starting to come apart.

I'm sure that's just a coincidence, though.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 19:15 | Link to Comment Chopshop
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exactly.  and i'm sure that this news story, which is now well over two years if not three in the making, will mark the death of the dillar and the ascendancy of dirham et al ... by the way, when is that Amero coming out ? hahahah.

has anyone looked at an actual chart lately ??

anyone notice that the dollar is most likely bottoming for 6 - 16 months and that the euro et al are rolling the fju** over?

eh, more iv to capture for those of us who have.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:04 | Link to Comment T-888
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This will be... fun.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:07 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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Be sure to go shake hands with O before SHTF. Harvey Darden did:

The Dardens mistakenly showed up a day early for a tour scheduled through their congressman.

The White House and Secret Service both said the Dardens went through the appropriate security screenings and were allowed into the breakfast as a courtesy because there were no public tours the day they arrived.

That explanation was news to Harvey Darden, 67, a retired pharmacist, who said he and his wife never were told about the breakfast. They thought they were simply starting their tour until they were ushered into the East Room, offered a buffet spread and told they'd be meeting the president.

"The further we got into the White House, the more surprised we were," Darden told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. "My wife looked at me and I looked at her, and I said, 'You know, I don't know if we're in the right place.'"

Is the SS playing practical jokes on their man?

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091216/D9CK7BAO0.html

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:53 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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These are just reminders to Obama not to stray from TPTB's playbook.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:14 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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the guy's a veteran and he got invited to a breakfast for veterans.  it was a nice gesture.  not everything's covered with tin mate.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:52 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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True, although I briefly worked with the SS at a luxury hotel when W came to town back in '06 - they were unconcerned with a few of the potential security breaches I brought up - although to be fair your average Travis Bickle wouldn't have made it. The stuff they do to avoid boredom was funny.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:10 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:51 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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That could have been paraphrased from Sun Tsu's "Art of War"

Those who understand the way of economic warfare cannot lose. Those that do not understand this cannot win. The difference is the whole of art of war.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:37 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 15:27 | Link to Comment baserunr
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It could easily read "The Squid is skilled in both planning and adapting and need not fear the result of a thousand trading days, for they win in advance, defeating those that have already lost".

 

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:57 | Link to Comment nhsadika
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since pretty much through all time we're the bomb droppers, i'm glad to see that someone found a non-violent resistance :)

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 16:10 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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Lets see now... 12,000+ underutilized strategic and tactical nuclear weapons at our disposal with a president who is not afraid to spend 100 billion dollars a year to contain 100 Wahabi terrorists in Afghanistan.

I'll bet that if he looked really hard in those "Gulfo" states he may find several thousands more...

Lead liners in your gasoline tanks anyone?

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 15:12 | Link to Comment MinnesotaNice
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I have to disagree slightly... we marginalized our currency all by ourselves... it is only expected that people will run away from what has no inherit value... and perhaps the Gulf States will create something much more stable.  We in the United States have trashed our currency in an effort "save our economy".  Would somebody let me know when those Gulfo's are hot off the press... because I have some USD I'd like to exchange for some shiny new Gulfo's.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:18 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:13 | Link to Comment bigdad06
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Don't count on this happening anytime soon. These are the same people who built ski resorts in the desert! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!:))

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:26 | Link to Comment SteveNYC
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Not the Saudis. By far the most prudent and experienced of the bunch. They may actually have a shot at pulling this off.....

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:57 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Nor should one discount the possibility that Dubai World was an organized attempt to defraud the West on a massive scale. If they were going to convince us to invest in their Ponzi scheme, what better than something we all recognize and appreciate, like a ski mountain? Or pretty islands? Or 5-star hotels?

It will be obvious once the default comes and the only ones made whole are the local banks, and Western banks are left holding the bag. It will all then be "regretable" but just business, afterall.

cougar

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:42 | Link to Comment Ripped Chunk
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More black market gold passes through Dubai and comes out "clean" than anywhere else.  Just one of their "sideline" businesses (besides the massive fraud)

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:16 | Link to Comment Miyagi_san
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Marla OT... I tried finding an old post and had a hellava time. Track isn't usable, you can free-up space with delete history or refer to the post. Thanx

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:17 | Link to Comment Miyagi_san
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Marla OT... I tried finding an old post and had a hellava time. Track isn't usable, you can free-up space with delete history or refer to the post. Thanx

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:17 | Link to Comment MagicHandPuppet
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Yes... and next in the news will be reports of "growing Al-Qaeda activity" in this region, requiring a new and bigger U.S. military presence in these countries. Added will likely be a good dose of reports of "political instability" as it sounds like the time is approaching to swap out these obsolete puppet regimes for some fresher 'royal' blood, eager to move up in the ranks and do what they are told.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 16:16 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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Spot on.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:18 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:20 | Link to Comment Selah
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"Gulfo"???!!!

That is a pretty lame name for an International Reserve Currency.

I suggest the "Gulfar", based on the popular Islamic "Dinar".  If I am forced to do future transactions with our new over-lords, I don't want want to have to do with a stupid-sounding monetary unit...

 

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:50 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:26 | Link to Comment Argos
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Gulfo is lame, how about the Oily?

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 15:00 | Link to Comment Pedro
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Nice! LOL

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 16:18 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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The "Aruble" perhaps?

Thu, 12/17/2009 - 01:59 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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LOL, Nice!

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:40 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 15:38 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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How bout the ultimate in international currency...

A little long, so we could call it the BBGB...or 3BG...

 

"Backed By Gold Bitchez"

 

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:27 | Link to Comment bugs_
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Yo how many gulfo to the amero?

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:32 | Link to Comment lsbumblebee
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So when the Fed runs out of foreign currency to sell, how's Man-of-the-Year going to prop up the dollar? No more short squeezes.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:36 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:44 | Link to Comment Steak
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Y'know as all these plans are implemented for a world without the dollar, I begin to feel like the worst case scenario for US is to have a multi-year recovery.  If the world economy progessses relatively smoothly for the next few years then by 2012 there will be institutions and contingencies in place that won't rely on the dollar or Fed largesse to stabalize economies outside this country.

It would have been far better from a US perspective if we went ahead and had the global collapse while we were still (just barely but still) on top.  I cannot imagine the concessions that will be extracted from US if a collapse comes and other countries have room to manuever while we have our hands out.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:10 | Link to Comment nonclaim
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If a collapse comes (few minutes to midnight at this point) no fiat currency will survive. Everybody will have to make concessions in a very different game: don't expect the current rules to work after midnight.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:11 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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I hope this charade ends sooner than later - my liver hates me as it is.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 19:19 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Indeed, and you will help British Columbia's economy, or Cali's, or if you are cheap, Mexico's!

Of course I recommend you support the BC economy!

I would imagine a $100 could be spread over two months of usage.

The idea of the lazy stoner is just a stereotype lazy people gravitate towards.  Marijuana not only helps you cope with what passes for 'reality' these days, it makes it easier to spot the blatant contradictions and hypocrisy as well!

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:45 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHFK1yKfiGo

This is the end
beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I’ll never look into your eyes
Again

Can you picture what we’ll be,
So limitless and free?
Desperately in need
Of some stranger’s hand
In a desperate land

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:55 | Link to Comment TruthHunter
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Golden Rule: He who has the Gold makes the rules, but

He who has the guns takes the Gold)

 

Didn't the Shah propose something like this shortly

before he was deposed? And Saddam Hussein wanted

to stop selling in dollars before Gulf War II?

 

This isn't going to end well...

 

TruthHunter (but no hunting license. Truth Poacher then?)

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 16:09 | Link to Comment Ripped Chunk
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Thanks TH.  I continue to wonder about the gold argument. Like why is there even one?

What is it? Will you exchange it for more fiatsos in the future?

Or will you hold on to it and use it for what?????

To buy things???  After the shit hits the fan???? For use during the brief period before chaos takes all????

If people know you have gold stockpiled they will come for it and kill you if you don't give it to them. Or lets go action movie sequence:  you kill a few of them and they run off.  Later they come back and kill you and take your gold.

Strength will be in numbers. Who can you trust for your team?

 

 

 

 

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 12:56 | Link to Comment Objective Soul
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In every crisis there is opportunity. I just pray we do not get another Hitler.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:09 | Link to Comment fiasco
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that's the problema, you pray

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 16:10 | Link to Comment Ripped Chunk
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And you fiasco on the other hand do what? Mumble like you are some drunken Italian cartoon?

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 18:47 | Link to Comment Zé Cacetudo
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Palin.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:01 | Link to Comment truont
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Wow. "The dollar has failed".

Approximately,

1/3 of the world's currency is FedReserveNotes held in USA

1/3 of the world's currency is FedReserveNotes held OUTSIDE the USA.

1/3 of the world's currency is foreign currency.

What happens when the 1/3 of worlds currency (FRN$) held by foreigners, is regarded as "failed" and is repatriated in the USA to buy American goods/real assets/commodities/equities?

I-N-F-L-A-T-I-O-N.  Spell it out.

 

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 15:44 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Dollars rushing out as they all come to drop them off and take our stuff. Inflation # wise, inflation confidence wise.

We will wish for the days of deflation.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:04 | Link to Comment BoeingSpaceliner797
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Credit/apologies to Neil Young, "Damage Done"

 

The Dollar's Done

 

We caught you printin' ever more and more.

Can't stand your lies, we're showin' you the door.

Ooh, ooh, the dollar's done.

 

Thought I'd retire when I got old.

Now I find myself hoarding gold.

Gone, gone, the dollar's done.

 

Ben Bernanke says he has a plan.

But we're all too dense to understand,

Our money isn't for the common man.

 

We've seen QE and the damage done

A little part of it in everyone

Dollar junkies are like a settin' sun.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:22 | Link to Comment lsbumblebee
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Not bad. Now do "Heart of Gold".

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:18 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 15:45 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Nice.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 16:51 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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With coins called "Silicon Chips".

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:35 | Link to Comment fiasco
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this no happen tomorrow and productivity make-a one wealthy

not a man wrapped in a curtain with-a bag of gold coins

fuck-a the pussy, watch-a the football, and laugh at religion and ideology, the thing-a the stupid-o masses like-a to hear.

 

hey marla!  anybody fuck-a you these days?  my cousin luigi sometimes-a sits-a and stares at his pepperoni stick because-a he has the lust for you.  are you a man?  if you a man-a we have a big laugh with luigi.

 

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 15:08 | Link to Comment Ripped Chunk
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Or better yet, fiasco swallows a bottle of ludes and dies.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 17:06 | Link to Comment fiasco
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hey, luigi

a critic of my comments

ripped chunk wants-a fiasco to die

can you read that anywhere else-a but the interneta

i told-a you to investa in the new media, stupido!

 

 

 

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 20:18 | Link to Comment Ripped Chunk
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Hey Mario!  Come on! Live a little. You and your brother and some of Tiger's cast offs with some Black Jack and some ludes. Party brother. Get unconcious for a while. Maybe things will be different if you wake up.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 16:50 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:52 | Link to Comment I need more asshats
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I wouldn't dare say that someone has a `stick up their asset` about a certain debtor from the land of sand.... Nor would I dare to say they are beating a dead camel. No, I wouldn't dare.

Hello.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 15:48 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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What a lovely asshat. Welcome!

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:16 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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The whole thing sounds really fishy to me. They've been relying on the overall stability of the USD for 50 years because their own region cannot hold itself together for more than 5 minutes. The current gyrations not withstanding, how will a Gulfo reserve currency handle the first time some young prince deftly eases his way into the Saudi Sultanate via ceremonial dagger?

cougar

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Racer
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And next year they will be delighted at the outcome when 1 Gulfo  =

1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 dollars

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 15:28 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Do I even need to say it?  Oh, alright.

GOLD BITCHES!!!

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 16:07 | Link to Comment Ripped Chunk
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I continue to wonder about the gold argument. Like why is there even one?

What is it? Will you exchange it for more fiatsos in the future?

Or will you hold on to it and use it for what?????

To buy things??? To exchange for things?????  After the shit hits the fan????  For use during the brief period before chaos takes all????

If people know you have gold stockpiled they will come for it and kill you if you don't give it to them. Or lets go action movie sequence:  you kill a few of them and they run off.  Later they come back and kill you and take your gold.

Strength will be in numbers. Who can you trust for your team?

 

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 16:49 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 20:32 | Link to Comment Ripped Chunk
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For some reason you seem to think history will have any bearing on what lays ahead?

I lay 20:1 166442 and his gold stock are killed in the first violent wave.

No more rules idiot. I am dense so you better aim for the heart not the head.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 17:02 | Link to Comment fiasco
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hey, 

we hear-a this discussione before.  why don't you-a pay attention.

it goes-a like this: if everythinga is so bad, then nobody agree-a on anything-a, including gold is money.

but the gold bugs have one foot in the regular economia and one foot in the paranoida world of the people on the interneta

but gold is a store of value when currencies are getting adjusted, but the people are getting the storia of paranoia because they like the drama.

ok stupido

stop this agrumenta now

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 17:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 17:25 | Link to Comment fiasco
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pussy and slaves?

i know-a you religious fanatico

gods-a have existed for thousands of years but we know they are bullshit.

try again-a to explain yourself per favore

but try-a to keep-a moses and the ark out of it-a

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 18:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 12/16/2009 - 20:28 | Link to Comment Ripped Chunk
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Gold holds value for trade for the first month or two or three while the groups mass.

Then you find a bunch of corpses shot in the front and back. People with their hands in the air, hands ripped off or cut off as they apparently had been holding something in their hands in an attempt to barter their way out of the violent onslaught.

Yea I'm plenty dense.

 

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 17:42 | Link to Comment Greyzone
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Who is coming back in what numbers? With what fuel? Using what aircraft or ground vehicles maintained with what parts? With what weapons? With what supplies?

The anti-gold argument relies on silly "action movie" concepts and particular ones at that, such as the lone hero fending off hordes of zombies. There are so many variations on preparing for social collapse caused by financial collapse that any simplistic analysis taken as a gospel dismissal of preparation merely marks the originator as an unoriginal thinker.

1. Do you want to prepare?

2. What are the scenarios for which you will prepare?

3. What are your priorities?

 

Let's take a hypothetical example. Say we want to prepare for a Zimbabwe style hyperinflation. That statement alone is not sufficient in and of itself. We have to ask ourselves what effects do we expect such a hyperinflation to cause? Will fuel be available? Prescription medicines? Food? Tools? Parts? Weapons? At what cost? Will barter become viable? What are likely to be high demand bartered goods? From historical example some such goods were toilet paper, seeds, ammunition, liquor, cigarettes, tobacco, tea, coffee, and salt. That list is not definitive but it demonstrates the breadth of what people will generally consider a "good trade". What goods have served as temporary currencies in the past? Silver coins, small weight gold coins, ammunition, cigarettes (in WWII). That list is also not definitive but demonstrates the inventiveness of people in trying to develop useful arrangements to conduct at least rudimentary forms of business.

Once you have developed your list of scenarios and then fleshed each scenario out to include expected effects (maybe the JIT supply chain breaks down) then you can start developing a "list of lists" appropriate to handling these scenarios. Your list of list should be about categories of things you can do to minimize the level of disruption to your life. Shelter, food, water, tools, clothing, etc. A good list of lists might run 30-100 separate categories once you get it set up. Then create a list of actions and items you want to procure for each category. One action might be to find property and a job in a small town at least 2 hours driving distance from any city over 100,000 population. Or you might give yourself an action item to find or found a neighborhood watch team in order to get to know your neighbors and to start actually looking out for one another.

If you buy a case of freeze dried meals, a gun, a box of ammo, a camping stove, and a sleeping bag you must not be expecting much more than what happens each year on the Gulf coast when a hurricane hits. But is that really going to be enough if the entire JIT chain collapses and the US government becomes dysfunctional due to lack of useful spending power (dollar collapse)?

If you actually believe that the Schumer is going to hit the fan, you can stand there and get caught in the resulting hail of shrapnel. That's fine and your choice but don't expect someone else to yank you out of the line of fire. Or you can actually start thinking about the likely scope the problem and what you need to do to actually prepare. If you do that, you'll discover that gold goes way down on the priority list after a whole lot of other real world issues get taken of first. But once those are taken care of and if you want to preserve additional wealth through a currency collapse, what are you going to do? Buy another currency? Which one? Or buy the one thing that has held its value since civilization arose thousands of years ago in the Middle East? I think the answer to that question is pretty obvious.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 19:07 | Link to Comment Rusty_Shackleford
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"Learn it. Know it. Live it."

 

 

Thank you,  Mr. Grey.

 

The pieces are in motion.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 20:34 | Link to Comment Ripped Chunk
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You seriously overestimate the human animal.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 17:10 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 12/16/2009 - 18:43 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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"I have my little idea for saving the USA."

NvF, consider me curious.  pls share a link to the little.  danke.

Wed, 12/16/2009 - 21:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 12/17/2009 - 02:11 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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I would agree with most of your predictions, except with the direct competitor to the BIS. I would think the BIS would adjust to the times with either more collateral or the illussion of it. If they do become competitors I would imagine it would eventually lead to war.

Either way, these are all legitimate possibilities.

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