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US Energy Chief Says Partial Meltdown Has Occurred At Fukushima, Urges All Us Citizens Within 80 KM To Evacuate
Update: Britain follows US in recommending all nationals in Tokyo and north of Tokyo evacuate
More on the earlier news that Steven Chu "thought" a partial meltdown may have occurred, the just released news escalates the verbiage, which is now a definitive: "US Energy Chief says 'partial meltdown' occurred at the Fukushima Plant." The next step is his urgent recommendation for all US citizens who live within 80 kilometers of Fukushima to evacuate or take shelter indoors. Oddly enough, for the Japanese the evacuation radius is a fraction of this, but it is probably due to the government's recent arbitrary decision to pick a number of 250 millisieverts as the maximum safe threshold for NPP workers. Somehow we assume this means Japanese DNA is about 2.5 times more resilient to damaging alpha, beta and gamma radiation, than that extracted from the US and all other countries.
We urge Japanese readers who have not already done so, to follow Chu's advice and to get the hell away from Dodge, and evacuate to a minimum 50 mile safe distance.
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40 uninterupted S&P points to the downside directly ahead. Opportunity!
=not that far from Tokyo
glad you're rounding to one mm:-)
And the shit officially hits the fan.
http://weblife.org/humanure/images/shitflying.jpg
I think body mass helps in these situations - so therefore you would expect a superior American tolerance to those pesky heavy elements.
So, you're saying I'm fat?
Does this Haz-Mat suit make my ass look big?
Our lard-ass Surgeon General is finally on the healthy side of a curve!
http://kissmyassets.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/art-benjamin-nomination-gi.jpg
is that a dosimeter in your pocket or are you just shit faced happy to see me!
is that a dosimeter in your pocket or are you just shit faced happy to see me!
No son, you're just big boned.
Is a partial meltdown similar to "sort of" being pregnant?
They have two different types of meltdowns.
One is the partial or complete melting of the rods within the containment core.
The other is the melting puddle of death burning 'through' the containment core and into the earth it's self.
BTW...all that seawater they are pumping into the core now...either it all evaportates into the air or....flows back into the sea.
Either way, they ain't talkin' about it and its impact.
Good points. I haven't heard anyone say how much sea water is being pumped. It would be interesting to hear an estimate on how much sea water has been pumped and what the projected environmental impact is from the water vapor and/or the water that doesn't vaporize.
this is something I have been thinking about since sea water was mentioned.
as massive evaporation occours, the ionic concentration increases, eventually becoming extremely reactive with metals. any chemists out there?
nobody here wants to discuss facts. They want to be apocalyptic.
If I write a heavily factual post, even referencing technical literature, I get ZERO replies. Consequently, I must conclude that nobody is particularly interested in factual discussion.
All of the other fact-based posters have bowed out of these discussions.
Mods. Please ban the known racist.
Thank You
Mods, please ban the known fascist, Client 9.
I pay attention when you explain.
Fishemen are going to save a fortune in flashlight batteries?
"sort of" being pregnant, is what you tell your parents.
Seriously, why the hell isn't the millitary involved in this yet?! They need to drop as much cement and sand on this thing STAT or we are going to watch Tokyo become Detroit in the next few months.
They can't get near it unless they do it from orbit.
That doesn't add up. At Chernobyl they were able to do so and they were reporting much higher levels of radiation. This is of course is based on the info we have. Your answer suggests there must be much more dangerous levels than at Ch.
Do you know how they are observing the reactors?
Via spy plane.
What does that tell you?
This is far worse than Chernobyl regardless of what you hear on the news...they are still lying about Chernobyl to this day, this incident is no different.
So why aren't you flying into the plume of death yourself, Race Bannon? You could always go help out if it's such a priority for you. Is it their "job" to sacrifice themselves? Because they're unejukatd loosers with no other employment options?
Don't the Japanese have a military? Don't they have aircraft? Ones that might be a little fucking closer to the problem area? THEIR problem area?
Dicksmack.
Who are you speaking to? Because I am speaking about the Japanese military.
I did make an assumption that you were deriding the US Military. For that I apologize.
As for the Japanese... in the military you do what you're fucking told. Culturally, moreso in the Japanese military. You don't steal helicopters like Wil Smith and go looking for your lost stripper girl friend. They're doing what they're told, and they're doing it as quick as they can and probably without much regard for their own safety or the plight their own relatives might be in. I would feel safe saying that the same people who produced a grand total of 1k live prisoners from an army of 20k on Iwo Jima are not cowering and sucking their thumbs in despair. The scale of this is beyond belief... it's not some shit creek levee bust in Reddick, Mississippi.
The Soviets cared slightly less for their troops then the Japanese.
Or....the Soviets cared slightly more for their whole population than the Japanese.
If they could do that then they would already. Obviously they can't. The machine and people inside would become hot. The spy drones will probably be crashed into the sea because is it really worth do decontamination on them. Even the president is retreating to South America, what does that tell you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_due_to_the_Chernobyl_disaster
Many of the brave men fighting the fires at Chernobyl did not comprehend what they were up against re. radiation contamination.
it does add up. you forgot that guys flying over chernobyl are RIP. some of them literally died while flying over and fell into reactor.serious.
IIRC, most of the crew involved in the Chernobyl cleanup died soon after... or at the time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw-ik1U4Uvk
Per Drudge the military has been ordered to keep 50 miles away.
Well, they'll be helpful from there.
well, a little more than you are.
The meltdown [they] talked about before were the rods in the containment core which except for one possible core (#2) are intact.
The meltdown [they] are talking about now are the spent rods 'outside' the containment core.
As in...not contained. Uncovered. Exposed.
You're free little nuclear birds! Fly away...fly away.
If you don't know what you are talking about please STFU.
Tokyo Electric Power has estimated the extent of small holes or cracks in the fuel rods, based on the amount of radioactive material in the coolant.
It says 43 percent of the fuel rods in the No.1 reactor were possibly damaged at 1 PM on Tuesday, but the ratio had increased to 70 percent by 3:25 PM.
At the No.2 reactor, the ratio rose to 33 percent from 14.
In both reactors, the coolant levels are low, exposing the fuel rods. Sea water is being pumped into the reactors to cool them down, but the coolant level remains low, creating the risk of a meltdown.
Damaged fuel rods would leak radioactive material.
The pressure inside the reactors is sinking and Tokyo Electric Power is monitoring the data carefully while continuing to pump more sea water.
Wednesday, March 16, 2011 08:00 +0900 (JST)
Where is Obama on this?
He's on ESPN making his picks and he's flying to South America in the next few days.
What are the radiation readings over the Pacific?
FEMA, DOD, DOE, NRC, NOAA, NASA? Boy Scouts?
Every public university physics department in America and high schools needs to get a real time Geiger counter on their roof connected to the RadiationNetwork.com. Today.
There is NO reporting on the isotopes involved and their ranges.
That is important, regardless of how remote their travel to the US is.
Anybody?
Hello?
> He's on ESPN making his picks and he's flying to South America in the next few days.
"Oh, yeah, nothing to fearz, bitchez! Peace, out!"
Obama is going where it is safe. What a great American.
He thinks it's bad and BP...um, I mean TEPCO should "fix it".
Funny how governments have ceded all authority for these pesky things to their corporate overlords...
That's what I'm saying. Where is the fucking millitary!?!?!?!
still don't get it? japanese know too well what happend to the ones at chernobyl. from what i read, it's a suicide to go there!!!!.
You are the one that doesn't get it.
Yes, it's suicede to go there. BUT IT'S GENOCIDE NOT TO.
EXACTAMUNDO!!!
Where is Obama on this?
We shall hear from our "leader" when his [golf] balls start glowing in the dark.
Should he bow to the Japanese (again) before "Looking for who's ass to kick" ? :)
Heckuva job, Chewy.
Notice he just said "American citizens." So there's no danger to the Japanese. The radiation is smrt.
To Tyler Durden-
Why is this person permitted to continue posting here. He is a known racist. How can you openly condone such behavior by opening up your forum to his poisonous thoughts and comments?
To whom are you referring?
Yes and please ban Michael as well -- racism will not be tolerated.
Glad to know a 6weeker is making decisions on who will be tolerated. Fucktard.
Censorship is the real poison.
+1
Client 9--yeah.
Worthless bot! Go crawl back under your rock.
have you wet yourself. booohoooo.
Put a sock in it bobo.
Is there a link to one of the news wires or a .gov site with Chu's comments? Maybe Bloomberg - can't find it there - Reuters can't find it there - AP ditto - Infowars not even there
here is Chu's facebook page (really)
http://www.facebook.com/stevenchu
but I can't find anything that talks about an 80km evac and how would most yanks even know what 80km is?
If his comment was directed at Americans living abroad, you can be assured they know what Km is.
not tourists
Check the RAN Squawk feed on the right side of the screen. HAve not seen printed confirmation yet, probably came from oral testimony to House subcommitee.
I saw that but no source and no detail
Well, not direct corroboration, but supporting circumstantial evidence: USA Today reports every OTHER government (except US) advising all citizens to depart the island:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-03-16-foreign-citizens-evacuate-japan_N.htm
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16/us-japan-usa-shelter-idUSTRE72...
The United States on Wednesday recommended its citizens living within 80 km (50 miles) of the Fukushima nuclear power plant in Japan evacuate the area or take shelter indoors.
The U.S. Embassy in Tokyo issued the advice in a statement distributed to reporters accompanying Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on a trip to Egypt.
"We are recommending, as a precaution, that American citizens who live within 50 miles of the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant evacuate the area or to take shelter indoors if safe evacuation is not practical," it said.
80kms?
...That's right next to Toronto which is a subburb of Ottawa and Montreal in that Province thing...I think it's called Vancouver near some street called Winnipeg.
He's quoted in the NY Times from testimony to a two-committee House hearing: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/17/world/asia/17nuclear.html
At a hearing in Washington on Wednesday held by two subcommittee of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, Energy Secretary Steven Chu said, “We think there is a partial meltdown” at the plant.
“We are trying to monitor it very closely,” he said. “We hear conflicting reports about exactly what is happening in the several reactors now at risk. I would not want to speculate about what is happening.”
No 80 km in that snip.
Forget The Nuke Meltdown:
Obama fills our NCAA Bracket picks today in West Wing Room where Roosevelt once oversaw WWII, then plans his family weekend vacation trip to RIO.
Too funny. The Chu-Chu train was so masterful in the GOM scenario, him and his super-duper expert team. So glad he is on hand, doling out sage advice.
he should be more concerned abotu his own backyard, about Beebe, New Madrid....
especially that last one.
Something is brewing there.
As for Tokya...ghostland....I was there a couple of years ago...un-imaginable. But it was such a crazy place, lights on, all the time everywhere. Nuclear energy was so damn cheap ont he face of it. Sad.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/american-cross-nuclear-rumbles/
Hats off to ZH for this coverage... you're the first place I go now.
Yes, absolutely. 1st rate journalism. MSM useless.
indeed. readship is going up on øH twitter pages by hundreds a day. it is really exciting watching these green shoots of green following people. it is way better then watching the stock market. twitter is kinda fun, if you have something to say. i just read.
The worse the nuclear meltdown situation gets, Whole Foods Market simply grinds up even higher.
You post a year chart of Whole Foods to make your case about something that has happened in the last 5 days? You're an idiot.
oh contraire, slow roast. posting meaningless charts is the old catfish mouth's raison d'etre.
if only you had his midas touch of investing. why just a few days ago the old catfish told us investing was "easy." all one had to do was buy jpm to make super duper gobs of money.
but then this is the same old catfish who said at the first hint of trouble - meaning his all knowing summation index - he would get short.
in the meantime, the board anxiously awaits a catfish mouth post on whether in this nano-second he's advising everyone to fight the fed, or not.
Irradiated food is the new organic. I'll be looking for a new special section when I go food shopping.
robo, the bottom line, fucking whole foods is about the bottom line to the shareholders. they are complete sold out corporate crack. they work the workers to death, and pay them nothing. most only work for the benefits. it is just rediculous what these corporations do to the employees. all for health care, the only reason people work is for the health care benefits. that really says something about amerika. fuck whole foods shit food they now make 365 crap brand. boycott whole foods. good i can't wait til spring harvest.
+1
many farmers I have spoken to won't sell to them - it isn't just the employees who are squeezed.
Idiotic post & chart.
Wow.
Where does it go from here?
When is MIT making an official statement on this?
And where is Nero? Where is he? I mean, nuclear clusterfocks, slaughter in the middle east, oil crisis, economy in peril with ChairBeast Bernanke doing even more (than usual, which is a lot) serious damage to the integrity, equilibrium and balance of all markets, and he's nowhere to be found.
There was a time when the United States led the world - warts, sins and all - but it led the world. And the President of the United States was the person to lead.
Obama is every central banker's and Wall Street's wet dream-water boy-butler. He's nowhere to be found, in any significant context, while the criminals and incompetents run around either stealing or smashing shit.
And don't even mention Congress, that useless cesspool of mutated DNA.
Japan, do you want 435 'volunteers' to work at your stricken reactors, because we have them. The bad news is they are grossly overpaid, they don't do shit and quite a few of them will steal anything that isn't nailed down (and are too stupid to know better than to lift something that's highly contaminated with nuclear isotopes).
:) ! ..chairbeast :)
Our entire government is an embarrassment.
Calling him a water boy is an insult to water boys everywhere. It's more like towel boy at a roadside massage parlor.
+ however many benny bucks you want!
shoeshine boy outside GoldmanSucks is more like it.
In his spare time he handles doorman duty.
Utter clown , how anyone could have voted for him is beyond all.
It is when i knew this place was a majority of dumb freeloaders.
He needs some kind of three step intervention program.
He is so deep in the koolaid , so deep.
Sorry if it hurts.
MIT? Why would you need them? Bob Pisani just summed it all up over at the Ministry of Truth. He said, "Headlines can move the markets." Bob has more than twenty years on the floor of the NYSE...and so he would know whether the situation was dangerous...or if this is just scaremongering headline rumors.
MIT...lol! And anyway, E. Burnett has already sounded the all clear. Really, what has gotten into you, brother Truth?
Erin Burnett is the worst form of the psuedo globalism parrot - just intelligent enough to be a useful idiot.
charlie sheen should weigh in on this one, i think†
Right, I was just wondering about that MIT guy
Yes, stay indoors. Maybe even hide under your nearest desk. My heart goes out to folks who have to suffer through this nigtmare.
" do my ears deceive me, or did the word THOUGHT just escape from your lips?"...
Typical bureacrat... our elite betters will guide and direct us
through the night, with a light from above
from above
Anyone know if the Tokyo cash machines have run dry yet?
Yeah but Netflix is going to stream exclusive content. So all is well here, move along.
Excellant opportunity for HUD and the GSE's to get rid of their foreclosure inventory. Offer permanent residency visas to any Japanese family buying a foreclosed house worth more than $150,000.
Tyler not that I don't believe you but a link to the source would be good cause I can't find a report on this anywhere except here.
Reported on Reuters live blog too.
I saw that too 'U.S. EVACUATION RECOMMENDATION ISSUED AS A PRECAUTION" - link below - but nothing even close to the ZH headline
normally TD is meticulous about providing links / source
British Foreign Office has just chirped in: “Time to get out"
Get out? That's become BYOT: Bring Your Own Transport.
Let the panic ... begin.
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Catch up on what’s really going on:
http://tarpley.net/2011/03/15/behind-the-2011-orgy-of-destabilizations/
Those who manipulate the unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government. We are governed, our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested largely by men we have never heard of … in almost every act of our lives whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires that control the public mind.
This last quote reminds of some here at ZH! lmao
nice
Huh. Trouble at a reactor..."may have partially melted down"? What?
I knew there were several explosions, several fires, failed cooling attempts, and radiation fluctuations registered on geiger counters...but why would they jump the gun on this and issue a warning? Japanese officials have stated that the situation is not out of control.
Confusing day...totally contrary price action everywhere in the context of such bullish news today. Makes me wonder if I should be selling instead of all this mad buying of Apple shares I have been doing, and Tiffany's? Hmmmmm?
govt estimates are always off by 10x. evacuate 800 kilometers please
Tea Leaves read -- Silver needs to get it's parabolic on
Totally off point but,
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/15/us/15stanley.html?src=me&ref=homepage
Yeah, leave Trav be, he's just another frequency of crazy, just like the rest of us.
2nd plant being evacuated... helos dropping buckets of h20? pathetic
Japan is only 140 miles wide at the most... where is everyone running to?
"Japan is only 140 miles wide at the most... where is everyone running to?"
Really. I guess corruption and expediency have their costs. Allowing designs with active only cooling for rod containment has proved itself to be a disasterous decision. But when the engineers resigned in protest at the time nobody listened. Kind of like today and all the financial chikanery and corruption. Nobody home.
yep - One look shows that the country is 'all in' with their bet on no nuke disasters so why wouldn't they build them at high elevations since tsunami's are certain threats of life... and its not like with Russia who can say, ok, you take Ukraine now..by gones are by gones...
Just reported on CNN, radiation has been found in the drinking water at Fukishima City, 50 miles from the reactors. Uh-oh.
Any radiation found in their banannas?
from Reuters
U.S. EVACUATION RECOMMENDATION ISSUED AS A PRECAUTION - U.S. EMBhttp://www.trust.org/alertnet/news/us-evacuation-recommendation-issued-a...
but nothing on the embassy site
and no mention of Chu
http://japan.usembassy.gov/e/acs/tacs-arch.html
Holy Shit, I found Tyler's youtube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05M9ESp2Vpc
tauylerdurdeenTV
To all the whiners about racism blah blah blah...do you really want another bullshit forum where uniformity of thought is molded based on the subjective tastes of some (or even many) all because some are saying offensive (subjective or otherwise) things?
Why not embrace the fact that there's still a place you visit that allows the full spectrum, and bask in the diversity, and instead of whining about offensive speech, either ignore people making the comments are rebut their comments?
WTF!!!!
Dude, chill. It's control bots. Just shoot em down and move on. They ain't that bright.
Oh face it, the shills of the Apartheid State of Israel have appeared again, along with their lapdogs from BRIC.
Translation: All US Citizens with 80 KM of the meltdown should stop what you are doing and simultaneously take a crap, the CYA!
Batton down the hatcheZ, bitcheZ! INCOMING!
MS - except here on ZH this is not being reported anywhere that I can find
Al Jazeera live blog
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/asia/disaster-japan-march-17-live-blog#update-13611
State Dept. and Embassy sites not yet updated.
Why WOULD corp. owned MSM be in a rush to transmit this?
thanks
the AJ posting is similar to the Reuters news alert posted above,
but where did the ZH headline come from? "US Energy Chief Says Partial Meltdown Has Occurred At Fukushima, Urges All Us Citizens Within 80 KM To Evacuate"
Your skepticism is laudable, but sometimes by the time there is "official" corroboration, it is too late...
The Tylers have direct access to Newswire feeds:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16/us-japan-usa-shelter-idUSTRE72F73J20110316?WT.tsrc=Social%20Media&WT.z_smid=twtr-reuters_%20com&WT.z_smid_dest=Twitter
I will repeat what I said on the thread last night...TEPCO must now resign themselves to letting meltdowns occur and just put every effort into preventing catstrophic fire.
the reactors themselves are not the major issue here and never actually were. The Spent Fuel Ponds are. They have no containment vessel.
People would be wise to read that DOE publication I referenced a day ago which conducted experiments on zircaloy clad fuel rods in the scenario of a "terrist" attack or other accident targeted at an SFP which drained water levels.
It remains highly improbable that reactor meltdowns will cause a catastrophic radiation release. However, SFPs on-site contain astoundingly more radioactive materials and none of these are in any kind of containment vessel.
Again, the highest priority for TEPCO at this time is fire suppression.
Ummm, the evac shelters are full.
Entomb the reactors....
35 to 39 million people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo
Obama administration priorities, as posted at whitehouse.gov:
March 16, 2011 at 12:20 PM EDT
President Obama's 2011 NCAA Brackets
As he does every year, the President fills out his brackets predicting the winners of the men's and women's NCAA basketball tournaments, and also calls for Americans to stand with our friends in Japan.
Japan doesn't have a team in the tourny so why are you trying to confuse him?
From Stoneleigh at The Automatic Earth:
"It is important to note that the distribution and level of radioactive contamination from the Fukushima disaster is likely to be very much less than at Chernobyl, as boiling water reactors (BWRs) like those at Fukushima do not have the potential for the same failure mode as occurred at the Chernobyl RBMK plant. Chernobyl suffered a nuclear explosion on an abrupt power surge aggravated by a moderator fire."
Here's a link to the full article:
http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/
this passage isn't accurate. The explosion of Chernobyl was a steam explosion, not a nuclear one.
The REAL problem was not that, it was the high temperature fire.
This is why I have been saying since last night that the SFPs are the real danger here. In fact, on NHK right now, they are hammering this point.
If this turns into a Chernobyl disaster, it will be by the same means- a catastrophic high-temperature fire. This can occur by virtue of zircaloy's exposure to oxygen.
Again, pulled from The Automatic Earth:
The Automatic Earth's senior editor Stoneleigh is a nuclear safety expert. The subject of her master thesis at the Law Faculty of Warwick University in Coventry, England, was nuclear safety research.
After graduating in 1997, she became a Research Fellow at the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies, where her research field was power systems, with a specific focus on nuclear safety in Eastern Europe.
There are her credentials. What is your field of expertise?
agendas trump credentials
I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
The cause of the explosion at Chernobyl was not criticality-based, it was a steam explosion. It was really rather similar to how old steam locos used to occasionally blow up.
These are the facts that are in the record.
Perma - the comments you posted by Stoneleigh refer to the nuclear reactors. Trav's comments refer to the SFRs in the cooling pools. Trav agrees with what she has to say about the reactors (based on his other comments). But you post nothing of what she has to say about uncovered SFRs in the cooling pools. What does she have to say about that. Compare those comments of hers with what Trav is saying to see if there is any disagreement.
Does Wiki need a re-write (The Chernobyl explosions)?
Excerpted from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#Experiment_and_explosion
(1) A few seconds after the start of the scram, a massive power spike occurred, the core overheated, and seconds later resulted in the initial explosion. Some ... fuel rods fractured, blocking the control rod columns ... control rods to become stuck ... one-third of the way. Within three seconds ... output rose above 530 MW. ...
[so,] a great rise in power caused an increase in fuel temperature and massive steam buildup with rapid increase in steam pressure. This destroyed fuel elements and ruptured the channels in which these elements were located.
Then according to some estimations, the reactor jumped to around 30 GW thermal, ten times the normal operational output.
There is a general understanding that it was steam from the wrecked channels entering the reactor inner structure that caused the destruction of the reactor casing, tearing off and lifting by force the 2,000 ton upper plate (to which the entire reactor assembly is fastened). Apparently this was the first explosion that many heard. ...
(2) A second, more powerful explosion occurred about two or three seconds after the first; evidence indicates that the second explosion resulted from a nuclear excursion. The nuclear excursion dispersed the core and effectively terminated that phase of the event. However, the graphite fire continued,
... the ratio of xenon radioisotopes released during the event provides compelling evidence that the second explosion was a nuclear power transient.
Whoops, double post.
Read it again, That's not what Stoneleigh said.
She said it was a "...abrupt power surge aggravated by a moderator fire."
So, the Graphite caught fire, She never said a "Nuclear one".
Sorry, I trust Stoneleigh over your opinion trav.
Unless you can trump;
"After graduating in 1997, she became a Research Fellow at the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies, where her research field was power systems, with a specific focus on nuclear safety in Eastern EuropeAfter graduating in 1997, she became a Research Fellow at the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies, where her research field was power systems, with a specific focus on nuclear safety in Eastern Europe"
http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/2011/03/march-15-2011-fukushima-fallout-files.html
>> It is important to note that the distribution and level of radioactive contamination from the Fukushima disaster is likely to be very much less than at Chernobyl
Absolutely not true.
Chernobyl's massive effects were caused by a high temp fire as the reactor core (made of graphite) caught fire and carried nuclear core material out with the flames and ashes.
Fukushima reactors are not graphite but there are approximately 600,000 spent fuel rods with a Zirconium cladding that can and most likely WILL catch fire and carry spent reactor fuel material out with the flames and ash.
Oh and did I mention that the SPF's have no containment?
You know, there's been discussion of units 5 and 6 and I thought that perhaps I had misunderstood, but here it is again:
"The nuclear agency said Wednesday that the water level had dropped in the No. 5 reactor, which was not in service when the killer quake jolted northeastern Japan, posing the risk of overheating. The agency said it will closely monitor data on the reactor to prevent the problems that occurred at other reactors."
There is fuel in the goddamn thing, so in Unit 6 too. 6 units, 6 pools plus the intermediate building.
Lucky 13.
Pretty fitting i think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE-JwmDrTNI
The strange thing is that, a few weeks ago, I wrote something here in ZeroHedge about Kim Jong Il "launching a nuke over Tokyo".
The North Korean bomb wasn't necessary to turn Tokyo into a radioative dead zone...
the SFPs are the danger here...not the reactors.
TEPCO is going to have to let the reactors rely on meltdown containment and focus on controlling SFP risk.
Without water in the SFPs to shield them, the entire site will be too hot for anyone to do anything.
The Tokyo Electric Power company says "a new power line that could solve the nuclear crisis is almost ready".
We'll keep you posted.
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/asia/disaster-japan-march-17-live-blog#
let them eat
yellow cake...
[ too politically incorrect ? ]
my bad ....
Japan Nuclear Apocalypse
March 17 Blog
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/asia/disaster-japan-march-17-live-blog
Embassy evacuation news, reported here, just went public on CNN television. It was mentioned very casually.
outside the box thought...
drop a nuclear bomb on the plant..
would that cause the fuel to go critical
and burn up in the explosion ..?
if so ..choose a favorable windy day
nuke em ..them back fill the hole ..
just a thought ..something must be done
before the winds change ..
be careful japan peoples...
CNBC (fwiw) just referred to a new electric power line to the plant and the Al J blog (thanks to whoever posted it) says 3:49am
The Tokyo Electric Power company says "a new power line that could solve the nuclear crisis is almost ready".