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US F-15 Crashes Over Benghazi, Two Crewmen Rescued By Libyan Rebels As Attention Switches To Gaddafi's Gold

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Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:38 | 1085242 EscapeKey
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The one thing holding Iran back from being a "done deal" is China's $200bn oil investment.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:50 | 1085261 Harlequin001
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Not to mention their 340 odd tonnes of gold...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:43 | 1085594 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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[I]t may, in conjunction with the country's oil be the explanation for the UN's eagerness to liberate the country.

It is.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:03 | 1085293 cranky-old-geezer
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The one thing holding Iran back from being a "done deal" is China's $200bn oil investment.

... meaning Iran supplies oil to China

... meaning US govt isn't gonna fuck with Iran

... because doing so would make China + Russia + India gang up on the little (by comparison) US bully. 

Banksters aint stupid.  They know who not to fuck with.

So no, Iran will never be a "done deal".

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:56 | 1085422 EscapeKey
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But can the banksters control Israel? What if Israel were to lob a few missiles across the border, and the US went in to re-establish control on "humanitarian grounds"?

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:55 | 1085627 Bastiat
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What if Israel were to lob a few missiles across the border


It should be clear to Israel, and maybe it is, that if they do this they are on their own.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 13:03 | 1086368 dondonsurvelo
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Especially since our leader is Barack Obama.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:37 | 1085553 Tail Dogging The Wag
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Having lived in the PRC for many years, I can share this much: The Chinese will press the red button without a blink. The US understands this. They may not bark, but they will bite when you least expect it and they won't let go.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:12 | 1085309 Doode
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Pretty sure Iran is wiring/flying/shipping a cool $ billion to the North Korea asap to buy a couple of nuclear bombs and/or fission material to make sure they have it. After Libya situation they have to assume it is inevitable they are next. No Chinese investment would alter that - the Allies would just be careful about the oil fields and assure the Chinese that their contracts would be intact - for the next 3-5 years till the new government would do the rebidding calling previous one rigged (no pun intended).

If Iran gets the nukes then they got the world by the jugular - they just need to nuke Saudi and Iraqi oil fields to irradiate them for decades to come putting 40% of oil production offline instantly. It would be the end game for them as well, but no one will even think of attacking Iran knowing it could happen. Behind the nuclear shield, Iran will ramp up terrorist funding of Hezballah, Hamas, various jihhadi outfits and Israel will be drenched in blood. So good job Frenchies!

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:42 | 1085581 dogbreath
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you're an idiot

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:23 | 1085736 Doode
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Since you cannot think 2 steps ahead let me spell it out for you - $500 oil and parabolically rising defense budget to counter all the wave of violence in the middle east and defense spending by other nations for decades to come. Russia on Friday announced a new $700 billion in new arms purchases. Others will do the same. Libian invasion is the most moronic action undertaken in years - under the reasons given EVERY country in the world can be now invaded. Britain oppressed and invaded Ireland for decades, basks in Spain, French had their own, even Canada had it beef with separatists. Certainly China and Russia are qualified.

So think before you write.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:18 | 1085961 Abitdodgie
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America will never attack Iran because of one word "sunburst"

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 16:27 | 1087280 New_Meat
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Maybe clog SoH, put ULCC on the bottom.  vs. more modern Aegis???


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:39 | 1085245 MonsterBox
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gotta love gold.  good or bad, it makes no judgements.  keep stacking.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:47 | 1085260 Harlequin001
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It looks like Gaddafi is about to lose his. Should have stashed it in Venezuela before hand.

Alternatively he could of course buy an unallocated gold fund at HSBC...

But then again I can think of better grids to stuff your money down.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:40 | 1085246 HamyWanger
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Moving 143 tonnes of gold will be hard, but far from impossible. Just hidden in a ship going to Venezuela, and hop. 

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:58 | 1085282 prophet
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C-17 Globemaster III, perhaps from Qatar.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:11 | 1085308 fredquimby
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Da gold already left the building IMO....

"It is a BD-700-1A10 serial 9092 registered to Wells Fargo Bank Northwest NA, a subsidiary of Wells Fargo & Company.
The same subsidiary is the trustee for the aircraft with the tail number N168BF, a Raytheon Hawker 800XP with Serial # 258373 that allegedly has been used for extraordinary rendition flights.
And it got clearance for Tripoli on the eve of the UN Resolution... and they say only Russia has a double agenda"

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:42 | 1085803 decon
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With a payload of about a ton doesn't seem like the model dispatched to be carrrying a big stash.  Makes me think it was transporting some spooks.  Pilot was uncertain of Libyan airspace clearance until near the end, sounds like a last minute, plans are in the works flight.  Very interesting though Fred!

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:41 | 1085247 AUD
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It seems a lot of US war machines fall out of the sky due to mechanical failure.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:44 | 1085255 Harlequin001
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Yep, a bullet or two up the jet pipe is a real pisser.

Can really cause a few malfunctions you know...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:54 | 1085272 Cash_is_Trash
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There goes 30+ million dollars for the plane.

Plus all the tomahawks fired @ 500,000 a piece...

Fuck, why am I not selling munitions?

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:01 | 1085289 johnQpublic
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Tomahawks are 3,202,857.10 dollars each actually


and what happened to no boots on the ground, or are they wearing sandals?

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:04 | 1085294 Cash_is_Trash
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The cost of this war will rapidly grow, surely beyond $1 billion.

Once, again, what is the fucking purpose in Libya?

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:08 | 1085303 cranky-old-geezer
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... surely beyond $1 billion.

... each week.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:12 | 1085311 Cash_is_Trash
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More material for the POMO kids.

Gotta get that work experience.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:29 | 1085345 Harlequin001
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I would not be surprised to discover that our arsenals of weapons will be considerably lower after this little venture.

How are they going to pay for all these new replacement missiles when we have stagflation in the UK and bullshit in the US, Europe without a clue and Asia busily trying to sell cars that no one wants to people who can't afford them?

but then I suppose we have to keep BAe and Carlisle group busy don't we...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:15 | 1085316 cbaba
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There is only one purpose for this war, its OIL or Black Gold..

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:22 | 1085502 Sudden Debt
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What's your point?



Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:31 | 1086046 Abitdodgie
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The purpose of Libya is to spend lots of money to keep the Dollar ponzi scam going

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 12:56 | 1086336 barkster
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and to destroy missiles and planes in order to justify sending more money to the military industrial comples for replacements....

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:03 | 1085296 Mr. Mandelbrot
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$1.5 million now per tomahawk (inflation) ;)

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:07 | 1085301 Cash_is_Trash
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Not even wikipedia is keeping up with inflation.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:16 | 1085321 youngman
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Obama´s war will be a war on words.......if it was Bush´s war..that plane was "shot down"...bad guys won....bad war..Bush in Quagmire.....now that its Obama´s war the plane went down because of a "malfunction"...means Air Force is bad...Obama good....watch teh headlines and words used....this will be a "soft" war on the annointed one..Obama...the press will see to that..

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:03 | 1085292 reader2010
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another stimulus spending is on the way. 

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:30 | 1085349 Thorlyx
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Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:39 | 1085573 Tail Dogging The Wag
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Heaps of mechanical failures...  I figure they're running out of jet fuel too, and guess who provides the sweetest crude in the world right now... aha, Libya.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:43 | 1085251 Harlequin001
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If sovereign leaders can't hold onto it, how will Jo Sixpack?

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:46 | 1085257 Miss Expectations
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But Libya’s gold reserves may provide Col Gaddafi with a lifeline – if he can sell them. To raise large amounts of money, bankers said, Col Gaddafi would have to transport the bullion out of Libya.

Here we go again.  Bankers still think that you have to exchange gold to raise money when the opposiite is true.

Also, all the Ivory coast has to do is wrap their chocolate in real gold foil and (like the song says) I'll be There. 


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:15 | 1085317 cossack55
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I'm pretty certain both China and India have submarines that can handle that much gold as balast.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:46 | 1085258 Husk-Erzulie
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Robbin' and a Stobbin'

Lootin' and a Shootin'

Johnny you're too bad

Oh oh oh


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:53 | 1085269 Captain Benny
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Wonder how much silver is used in an F15....

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:54 | 1085618 gdogus erectus
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I don't know but everyone is quoting that over 30 pounds of silver is used per Tomahawk...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:55 | 1085271 HubbleBubbleBen...
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With commodity prices skyrocketing (due to The Bernank) we will soon have a no-fly zone above all commodity-rich countries

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:07 | 1085304 Cash_is_Trash
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This begs the question; will it rain F-15's or F-22's?

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:43 | 1085804 earnyermoney
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Yeah, the U.S. is literally stealing these resources. I'm waiting for these countries to refuse the dollar as a medium of exchange.


Looks like the U.S. is planing a documentary on "Kelly's Heros" with the setting in Northern Africa.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 07:57 | 1085281 Doode
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French get almost 20% of their oil from Libya and Quadaffi is the largest source of oil for them (Saudi's are barely at 11%)(http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/oiltrade.html) and Quadaffi on March 13th came out with a proposition to sell all of its oil rights without bidding to China, India, etc and explicitly kick Western oil companies out (http://www.emirates247.com/news/world/gaddafi-offers-libya-oil-to-india-russia-china-2011-03-14-1.367976). I am sure things like that are announced in private much much earlier. Libian oil is the best oil in the world - so that explains why the French are so adamant to take sides in this civil wa

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:14 | 1085475 The Third Man
Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:18 | 1085716 Doode
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Yeap, there is so much BS about this invasion the country should be ashamed.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:06 | 1085299 Blano
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Whether you like Gaddafi or not, score 1 for taking delivery.

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