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US-Iran Escalation: Iran Arrests 30 US Spies As It Builds Venezuelan Missile Base; America Sends A Third Aircraft Carrier To Persian Gulf

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A week ago Die Welt reported that, in what may soon be a repeat of the Cuban missile crisis, US arch-enemy Iran, following a secret agreement signed on October 19, 2010 of strategic cooperation, Venezuela has allowed Iran to commence construction of a missile base on Venezuelan soil. The base, which will be located on the northernmost peninsula de Paraguana, 120 kilometers from the Colombian border, has recently been visited by a group of leading engineers from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard-owned construction company Khatam al-Anbia, is unofficially designed "to help develop an infrastructure to protect against air attack. Also planned is the construction of a command and control station, residential areas, watchtowers, and bunkers, in which warheads, missile fuel and other items can be stored. In cooperation with its Venezuelan partners, Iran also intends to build missile silos at a depth of about 61 ft." The project appears to be funded by Iran: "Information gathered by Die Welt also suggests that on their visit to
Venezuela, members of the Iranian delegation carried cash in their
luggage for the project’s initial funding. Western security circles
suspect that this involved tens of millions of dollars siphoned off from
Iran’s burgeoning oil profits." But most importantly is the discovery that while presumably defensive, Venezuela has told Iran, that it will be granted use of the base when completed: "According to the secret agreement between the two countries, Venezuela
pledged to Iran that it will be able to strike its enemies from the
joint missile base.
Iran is attempting to boost its strategic threat to
the U.S., similar to the Soviet strategy in Cuba during the 1960s." And while skeptics may say that the base located about 2,400 miles from DC has no chance in striking the US capitol, the reality is that the Iranian long-range ballistic missiles Shahab 5 and 6, are rumored to be a three-stage system, which has a range of anywhere between 3,000 and 10,000 miles. So with missile base supplies most likely to come by sea (Venezuela is a few hundred miles away from Cuba), is a recreation of the 1961 Cuban missile crisis the next big political diversion?

Location of the base per Die Welt:

Which then begs the question: is America trying to antagonize Iran and to accelerate this "Cuban" denouement? According to the latest Naval update, not only are there now two aircraft carriers situated at the Straits of Hormuz, but a third one, CVN 77 G.H.W. Bush, is under way on a deployment to the 5th and 6th fleet AORs.

These developments come at a bad time for Ahmedinejad, whose power appears to be slipping following the deterioration of his relations with the religious leader Khamenei. Following a series of bizzare cabinet layoffs and forced transitions, none of which were to the liking of Iran's religious head, the president appointed himself the as country's oil minister, which yesterday was denounced by Iran's constitutional watchdog as illegal: a move that will put the country even more on edge as it likely now faces a crisis of confidence in its current rulers.

From Al Jazeera:

Iran's constitutional watchdog has deemed illegal Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's decision to take over the role of oil minister, after Iran's president removed the previous minister along with two others earlier in the week.

Iran's president was said to have assumed the role earlier this week as part of a government shakeup that reduced the number of ministries from 21 to 17.

The move put him in direct control of the government unit responsible for the extraction and export of the world's fifth largest oil and gas reserves.

It also meant Ahmadinejad would represent Iran at the next OPEC meeting, set for June 8 in Vienna.

According to Iranian law, a president has three months after removing a minister to introduce a new candidate to parliament.

During that period he can act as caretaker of the ministry or appoint someone else to do so.

And a move that is sure to tip the scales to an outright confrontation even more, is the just announced by Al Arabiya arrest of 30 suspected US spies: a move which will certainly lead to executions, and the complete collapse of any diplomatic ties between the two countries.

Iran has arrested 30 people it said were spying for the United States.

“Due to the massive intelligence and counter-intelligence work by Iranian agents, a complex espionage and sabotage network linked to America’s spy organization was uncovered and dismantled,” an intelligence ministry statement read out Saturday on the television said.

“Elite agents of the intelligence ministry in their confrontation with the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) elements were able to arrest 30 America-linked spies through numerous intelligence and counter-intelligence operations,” it added.

According to Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency, the suspects had passed information to US officials at embassies and consulates in third countries, including Malaysia, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates.

It said Iran had identified 42 US intelligence officers in such countries, saying: “They engage in collection of information regarding Iran’s nuclear, aerospace defense and bio-technology fields,” among other areas.

Spying in Iran usually carries the death penalty, often implemented without a full trial.

The announcement of the arrests comes two days after US President Barack Obama made a speech on the Middle East, reiterating Washington’s view that Tehran sponsors terrorism and is developing nuclear weapons, charges that Iran vehemently denies.

Topping it all is the fact that just yesterday Obama had a meeting with Israel PM Netanyahu (full transcript here) which sought to mitigate the previous announcement by the administration that Israel should get back to its 1967 borders, and which merely led to yet another failure for returning to peace talks, after Palestinians described fresh talks as pointless following Israel's dismissal of Barack Obama's call for a return to prewar frontiers.

Once again, just like in 2010, the geopolitical concern of the "Iranian Question" continues to be the fuse on the timebomb for the inevitable military conflict which, as Zero Hedge predicted in early 2010, is the only possible outcome to the current global stagflationary wave. At this point it is almost certain that a war will break out. The only question is when, in what format, and just which countries will participate in the conflict. 

 


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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 14:47 | Link to Comment mt paul
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freakin surreal ...

 

like the pages of a cheap thriller ....

paperback bytches

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:31 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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Yeah, being 007 is cool untill it isn't.

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 16:58 | Link to Comment caconhma
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People, get real.

Obama and his family have long CIA connections. He is "a company man" and a provocateur and a liar.

Yes, now-day, the primary America business is an endless array of wars. Just look at Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, etc., Remember that ruling banksters cannot run legit  & real businesses and/or intelligently conduct a war.

All these wars are financed by a runaway printing  of US$. America enemies are not very bright and are not yet organized but there are so many of them.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:49 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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I think America will have a binary transition, not a gradual one like many people think.
The things/processes/procedures/roles and responsibilities have all been "enacted' vial Presidential Executive Orders.
The naked emperor will be called out all of a sudden, it's called collapse for a reason.

And it looks like it is getting near.With the volcano eruption in Iceland....sure has an Exlocalypsy feeling to it all.
Dig here to see some of the "set-up" if you like:

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/hey-america/

ORI

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 19:34 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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You could be right about that. Global pro-US feelings are ebbing

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 22:54 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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i'm going to go with global pro-us feelings have been ebbing since 1946 or so.  and not for no reason.

but to the present case:  how provocative of the third world to arm itself against the attacks of the first.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 18:53 | Link to Comment nah
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libya at least wanted to pretend itself a westernized ally

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israel gets a free pass... and the globalists arent fooling anyone with 2/3 of a real opinion... this whole thing is a pain in the ass look war by itself is just war

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if china wants to get up in our ass with japan melting down to put asia on the map really wtf are we going to do... piss off more people with lazers... fucking libya you have got to be kidding me like, what are we doing did they attack us... israel attacked turkey and they piss and moan their way out of it...

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this shit is so retarded... any republican that is pro war at this point is a mindless biotch

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 21:19 | Link to Comment snowball777
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any republican that is pro war is, at the very least, insincere about their desire for smaller, cheaper government.

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 21:47 | Link to Comment tickhound
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Where the hell you been, snowball... We've been in need of some "rational" progressive thought.

Cheers

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 22:34 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Howdy! I've been doing manual labor in prep for moving the fam out to the incrementally-Wine Country sticks of Marin mostly. Cathartic...to do self-anthropology in the dusty boxes.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 22:56 | Link to Comment tickhound
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A beautiful place to purge... You be sure to dodge that fault line. 

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 02:47 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Ahhha! Beautiful. San Rafael adn Fairfax, it's where the tin-foil hat was jammed on my head by a few folks I'm always grateful to!

Good move snowball. It's definitely a sanctuary in the Bay Area.

ORI

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 09:08 | Link to Comment snowball777
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I figure they're unlikely to riot early when TSHTF as they'll be too busy gardening and making bruschetta.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 12:46 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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The good earth at farifax and The Open Secret bookstore in San rafael (D Street). Must cvisits.

Ask them about a tall Indian guy who hung out there a lot and got an education for the price of a few thousand cups of Chai.

;-)

ORI (aka Vivek)

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 21:16 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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I must be way behind on my conspiracies.  How is that Obama/CIA family connection thingy again.

Some links to like thinking would be appreciated.   Boy, I feel really stupid not knowing this.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 21:39 | Link to Comment snowball777
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He's not American, born in Kenya, Mooslim, and he wants to eat your babies!

No, he's a CIA plant there to insure we stay in Afghanistan!

I hear he can live on nothing but Top Ramen and WikiLeaks!

He can write the Lord's prayer on a pin and sing like Neil Sedaka!

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 22:13 | Link to Comment minsky4ever
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Here's one link with a bunch of info.

US doesn't like it when other countries copy its behavior? Now pepole here can see what people living in Russia see when they look towards their southern borders.

End the illegal wars and stop threatening the rest of the world and maybe we'll have some people respecting us.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 22:56 | Link to Comment legal eagle
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The only like minded people are rednecks and retards.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 08:21 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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Being both a redneck and a retard, I don't get your point.  Perhaps you didn't actually have one.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 08:50 | Link to Comment snowball777
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From AQ to Fred Phelps, there's fun-duh-mentalism in their twisted heart of hearts; there is a strong link between dogmatic thinking and poor judgement (pardon the pun). Sane, rational folk generally lack the dedication it takes to inflict great harm on others...they get distracted by living well and taking care of their own.

And don't knock rednecks or retards.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 07:01 | Link to Comment Anonymouse
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From the  looks of it, I would say this is the location http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=11.997944,-70.233804&spn=0.008427,0.0....

There are several other similar squares nearby (within a couple of miles) that also have been blurred out.  I didn't know Google was cooperating with CIA?  Chavez?

On the other hand, Aruba wouldn't be too bad place to use as a staging ground.  It's only about 40mi NNE

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:57 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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Is Venezuela and Iran run by brainless monkeys?!?(w8 don't answer that) USA will take them both out with in 1 go, they can simply paint a big bullz-eye on their foreheads

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 16:05 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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They do not believe our CinC will take action. His record would seem to support that.

We'll have to wait and see, but his stroking of Chavez does not indicate Obama will do a damn thing.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 16:25 | Link to Comment oklaboy
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Well put, the Bamster wil just go play golf, he is no JFK, until Soros tells him to. Alot of people are gonna get killed because of his incompetance.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:06 | Link to Comment MrBoompi
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Aren't there other blogs for partisan hacks?

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:27 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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Nope. Plenty of partisan hacks on both sides. 

Anyway, Obama won't do anything unless he can get UN approval. No way it will happen for Venezuela. Who knows if the story is even true

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 01:04 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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You know, I'm now starting to think this isn't run-of-the-mill trollery.  Something always nagged at me about a few of them...

The majority of the posters here are non-partisan enough to be dangerous. 

Hypothesis: the handful of really hard-core partisans are SO loud and prolific, they are likely here solely to derail any useful (and thus potentially disruptive to the current order) discussion.

They're *not* just stupid partisan shills.  They're something far worse.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:11 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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instead of just JFK getting killed because of his competance

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 07:02 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Hubris, not competence.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:16 | Link to Comment macholatte
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"We have no evidence to support this claim and therefore no reason to believe the assertions made in the article are credible," the department said in a statement.

In the wake of the questions raised by the report, Venezuelan Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro described the allegations as an "extravagant lie."

 

U.S. knocks down report of Iran, Venezuela missile base

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/05/21/venezuela.iran.missiles/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:58 | Link to Comment AnarchyInc
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So they've officially denied it...so it must be true.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 22:16 | Link to Comment minsky4ever
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Ahh, a Claude Cockburn fan.

Don't believe anything until the government denies it.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 19:22 | Link to Comment YHC-FTSE
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I'd go with that story instead. The Iranians rounding up another group of CIA mules is virtually no news at all. Par for the course. But Die Welt's stuff about missile bases in Venezuela is too fucking stupid to be true. Why would the Iranians need to base their missiles in Venezuela if they have rockets that have 10,000 mile range, as it says in the story? They can lob one from Tehran and hit New York and way beyond - that is, IF they have them. Duh.

 

Somebody overreached on this story. They forgot that America is a country where you can get lynched for wearing a "Give Peace a Chance" t-shirt, and it doesn't take much to rile up the fear factor of the average paranoid American. A juicy spy story or another "kidnapping" of American "tourists" wandering around the Iranian border would have done just fine to start another war. Maybe not even that. Seems to me that all you have to do is fart in the wrong direction to be labelled a terrorist or enemy of the state these days.

 

As for Hugo Chavez, well, just having a latin American name is usually good enough for most Americans to carpet bomb his country. Plus there's the oil, mineral wealth, and the pretty girls who can be starved to turn tricks for the visiting GIs. Same old story. If Chavez wasn't such an outspoken clown, and therefore an international celebrity of sorts, his country would be toast by now, but there's always a chance somebody will find an Al-queda (The toilet) secret base in Caracas tomorrow. Next front on the war on terror: S. America? 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 20:36 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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Then on to Mexico!!

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 22:26 | Link to Comment eureka
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Would you like to see twentyfive new 911's?

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 00:34 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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I don't want to see any more 911s.  But on to Mexico I think it is.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 07:04 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Annexing it, or surrendering to it?

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 15:46 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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Ironically, we are reaching point where that is going to be the only choice.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 22:22 | Link to Comment eureka
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Nah - too close to the Federatio-Homeland.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 22:19 | Link to Comment Tail Dogging The Wag
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Regarding the comments of President Blah Blah Blah and Bibi, I have no further comments.

In times of change you need new alternatives and new ideas.

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PROTECT YOUR CAPITAL. INVEST. SAVE. OWN. LAND.

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 14:48 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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Anyone remember the Monroe Doctrine?  It was aimed at Europe, but in this case, I am sure the administration is willing to include pretty much everyone.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 16:48 | Link to Comment magpie
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela_Crisis_of_1902%E2%80%931903

Settle for the original Gunboat diplomacy

oh looky, the Venezuelans have the BS as currency...

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 02:40 | Link to Comment Non Passaran
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I thought it was about Latin (or South?) America.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 14:51 | Link to Comment hognutz
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I'm glad today is the end of the world. So all this bullsheet is really just academic....

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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hognutz

Dude I took this as a sign of the end times.

 

"but a third one, CVN 77 G.H.W. Bush"

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:56 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Gully, long time gone.

And good catch. 7/7.

June Seventh..... mark your calendars and my words... tipping date.
It feels like it's time for an echo from 7/7/2005.

Remember, the system will be taken through the wringer before the next olympics, which will be a (temporary) harbinger of whirled peas and the installation of a new way, shall we say?

Sure feels like a jolty day.

;-)

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/hey-america/

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 18:48 | Link to Comment BrosMacManus
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which is it 7/7 or June 7th? so i can get right on that...

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 18:57 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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aaargh! Sorry.
July 7th...
I got it right this time. Thanks.
So please, mark your calendars and my words, corrected.

7/7/11

Looks rather ominous just sitting there, doesn't it?

Sehven ti Sehven.

ORI

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 20:42 | Link to Comment Bolweevil
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"A new way? What's this about a new way." Name that movie...

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 21:10 | Link to Comment scatterbrains
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More interesting would be 11/11/11 at 11:11:11  party down anywhere there is a #11, 11th street. flash party that biatch!!

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 23:15 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 That is a great screen name. I can't wait to see the Avatar.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:37 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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I don't know... it's getting pretty late right now over here... maybe tomorrow? Looks like the 4 horseman are running a bit late....

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 16:33 | Link to Comment Prof Gulliver
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The 4 horseman are in the Preakness today. As soon as that's over, they can move on with the apocalypse.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 18:03 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Haaaaah! SD and Prof, that's too funnies in a row.
Running in after the Preakness.
Who is the favourite? Let me check...

ooooh, Super Saver....

It's the Saver, come to Save us all!

ORI

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 02:30 | Link to Comment Hook Line and S...
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I heard that their horses were accidentally sent to be made into glue by several cherubim wanting to finish an art project.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 20:39 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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Re. today is the end of the world.

I have good news to report on that front.  Let be the first to say, today is tomorrow here, so in this quadrant of the multi-verse we continue to be.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 14:53 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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All hail The Messiah. He is the all-knowing one who personally killed Osama. Let us all follow the great Warrior President and his merry band of chickenhawks into battle against the world. You're either with us, or you're against us. Sieg Heil

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 14:58 | Link to Comment downwiththebanks
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Oh, stop being such a poser.  When it comes down to getting banker-gangsters like you to support aggression against Venezuela, you'll be all in (like your boy Pat Robertson).  You're against self-determination.

And everyone knows that, sun tzu, because of the boots you lick.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:11 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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They have oil, and they are evil socialists.

I'm in.

Venezuelan war brides are a plus. Lets get to it.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:15 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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Rodent Freikorps

Dude right now you want those Japanese brides. They will pay big bucks for a green card marriage ticket out of the radioactive hell hole.

Hurry though, you want to get them before their hair falls out.

Later when the Cancer comes you can always Gingrich or Edwards them.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:23 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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I'll convert to Mormonism. The more the merrier.

Hey, Jpop babes, call me.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 19:33 | Link to Comment Dejean Splicer
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"Later when the Cancer comes you can always Gingrich or Edwards them"

Insure them to the moon.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 21:46 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Because they won't ask any questions about your glowing bride or anything.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:20 | Link to Comment downwiththebanks
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Exactly.  Here's the invaluable NaziRat taking us to the pinnacle of what Capitalism can deliver:  a global war of extermination.

But hey, poisoning the world is a small price to pay for all those landfills!

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:27 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Whatevs, as long as the oil flows and I get more trim than a pathetic moose limb self-murderer.

I'm good with that.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:40 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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What can your wonderful socialist Messiah deliver? More global wars of extermination. Get back to sucking on His ass

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 19:46 | Link to Comment Votewithabullet
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How many wars of extermination is that now FUCKING FAG. You show up with that disgusting avatar and tell someone else to "suck ass". A good "war of extermination" is the only thing that will save us fag.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 21:48 | Link to Comment snowball777
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I think you may have forgotten to say 'fag', fag.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 08:40 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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Wow, Dude. Was some trucker a little rough on you through the rest stop glory hole last night?  You seem a little TOO fag angry, if you know what I mean. 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:32 | Link to Comment CD
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Speaking of which, I am perusing the sidebar ad's link to the 'Iranian Personals', while shopping for Coach bags for my potential date. I never get over the irony.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:41 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Well here is the moment we issue an ultimatum.

Chavez(you popped off, you pay loudmouth SOB).broadcast to the people of Venezuela what will happen ahead of time.

All Iranian ships inbound seized, and if any construction starts, immediate destruction, no WARNINGS further given.

We cannot allow Iran a base of ops in SA.

Period.

Self determination is one thing, when it endangers the entire southern Americas, and North Americas nuclear safety.

You have lost your right to self determination.

Your rights as Americans end at my nose.

Americas rights end at stage 3 nukes in our backyard.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:58 | Link to Comment Rynak
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To be honest, i too am a bit confused about why they would do this. Wouldn't the efficient strategy at this point be, to keep the USA distracted, busy and involved in it's current conflicts? Can we someway verify that this is not a half-truth?

P.S.: While i do consider this - if it is true - tactically and politically unwise by the iranians, i would like to mention that i always love the double-standards the USA applies, with regards to how it behaves itself, and how it expects others to behave.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 16:54 | Link to Comment Confuchius
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"We" issue an ultimatum. Give us a break!

You should just stick your head back up your asshole where it belongs.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:13 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Corny,

Yeah, We.

You want that regime planting Silos in our backyard?.

You have two nutcake schizoids,one with 12th Imam visions, and the other just a thief,setting up nuke shops to our south?.

Get your head out of your ass.

WE have enough nukes already spread globally.

To have two enemies of the state conspiring to give us ONE more thing to worry about?, not me.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:37 | Link to Comment Rynak
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The USA and its allies have ACTED batshit insane globally, they have nukes pointed at pretty much everywhere, and then they complain when some point back nukes at them? Get your head out of your ass, hypocrite.

The only thing problematic with this development - if it is true - is that it provokes an already batshit insane and armed up the wazoo country, called the USA. Let me repeat this: The biggest danger with this development, is what THE USA may do, not what venezuela or iran may do. And what about this complaint about number nukes globally? Uh, hello, how about you start counting your own stockpile..... it may turn out that your country is the biggest problem in this regard.

Again, fucking double standard hypocrites.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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What does "fair" have to do with geopolitics?

Grow up.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 20:53 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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DZ - you react for your handlers just like a rat in a maze.  The bell rings and you salivate.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 08:40 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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Enjoy your EMP.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 17:33 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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You must have lived through the cuban missile crisis. This I think is different.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 20:17 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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I was being sarcastic.  My father was 13 during the Cuban Missile Crisis.  

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 16:39 | Link to Comment velobabe
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meat beautiful Persian woman google AD, on sidebar.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 16:57 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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"meat"

Heh.

I volunteer.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 23:00 | Link to Comment legal eagle
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There must be at least ten of them.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:41 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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What are you talking about, douchebag? I never wanted war with Venezuela or any other country. Hugo Chavez is a horse's ass, but that's none of my business. Go join your Messiah Nobel Peace Prize winner in the next war, asskisser. I find it funny that you refuse to criticize your Messiah's Wall Street bagman, Beavis Geithner.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 20:00 | Link to Comment Votewithabullet
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SHUT UP FAG. We'll defer to you on matters of "asskissing" fucking fag.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:05 | Link to Comment fencejumper
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Exactly, sun tzu. Interesting comment by Gates on 60 minutes that those in Washington who have been in battle tend to be doves (other than actual self defense, of course). I can't think of a much more despicable, un-patriotic bastard than a man who sends others into harms way after avoiding danger himself. Wasn't it Cheney who said he had "better things to do than serve in the military?"

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:11 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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You sure it wasn't Obama?

If not serving means you can't make a decision to deploy forces, the Dems better get a busy serving or they won't have many candidates in a few years.

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:45 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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Obama, Cheney, Bush, Clinton, Biden. Nearly all of them never served. Even if they did serve, does that mean they can go starting wars for no reason?

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:53 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Just pointing out the hypocrisy. Civilian control is the rule.

Yes, if they go through congress, they can make war anytime they choose.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 16:26 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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I know the hypocrisy. It was Bush/Cheney chickenhawk for eight years. Now you hear nothing about Obama/Biden chickenhawk.That's why I inserted the chickenhawk label on them. 

They can start wars for no reason if congress okays it? We can't start a war with every country in the world that disagrees with us. The propaganda goes back decades. We will collapse like the Roman Empire. 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 16:33 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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We are still in the citizen-soldier stage of the Republic. We have centuries to go if we keep what we conquer.

It really is up in the air. A whole fuck load of mercenaries are available if we follow Alexander's model and settle veterans on newly conquered land and raise new armies in those same lands.

Totally doable in a world of economic chaos.

World domination, or bust. OOO-RAH!

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 21:47 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Bust or bust.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 02:59 | Link to Comment laughing_swordfish
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Actually not a bad idea.

First conquer the country - eliminate the indigenous male population (in the old days the battles usually took care of that), and settle your soldiers on the newly conquered land, sourcing new wives for them from the indigenous female pupulation.

And in the case of Venezuela, look at what you'd get - oil in our hemisphere, controlled by a loyal population, and removal of the indigenous population through nukes/gas/germ warfare opens up a huge area for settlement.

New lands conquered = domestic unemployment problem solved as the new land draws settlers from the mother country.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment kaiten
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Will that conquering army speak english or spanish? Have you looked at Census, lately? I mean, who´s conquering whom?

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:21 | Link to Comment DosZap
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"We can't start a war with every country in the world that disagrees with us."

 

Agreed, but disagreeing with us and building a nuclear arsenal to our South, is not just a disagreement.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:27 | Link to Comment Rynak
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Ever considered to how many "backyards" the USA has nukes pointed at? What's it with the USA having the privilege to complain when others do something invasive, but it's okay when the USA does it itself en masse.... because, you know, the USA behaves so responsible and trustworthy...... riiight.

Don't understand me wrong - if this is true, i do consider it tactically and politically stupid - still, the USA here has no reasonable justification to complain.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Heh. Douche bag countries with nukes is the moral equivalent as the US with nukes? Sell it to the Libs. They might be stupid enough to embrace the doom.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Rynak
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Actually, no...... "douche bag" countries with nukes are not equivalent to the US and it's nuke arsenal. Claiming such a thing would be discrimination.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 18:07 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Discrimination is a survival tool.

Darwin likes it.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 22:15 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Pretending one country isn't a douche, but most others are?

Not a beneficial adaptation.

Darwin is dead.

Natural selection is unimpressed.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 20:00 | Link to Comment Votewithabullet
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EVERYONE OF THEM SERVED AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF FUCKING FAG. And since when do you need a 'reason" to start a war. Real men do not buy land they take it.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:46 | Link to Comment Amish Hacker
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"I had other priorities in the 60's than military service."

Cheney played dodgeball very well: four student deferments stretched over 6 years spent in college and, when those ran out, one "hardship" deferment (daughter Elizabeth born---no, not that one, the other one). 

At his VP confirmation hearings, Cheney piously claimed, "I would have been happy to serve had I been called."

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:55 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Last time I checked, Cheney is no longer VP. And yet, we are still keeping troops in the same places.

Perhaps you could update you outrageous outrage to include the people actually making the decisions for a couple of years now.

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 16:47 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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What is a VP confirmation hearing?

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:00 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Liberal trolls displaying their total lack of understanding of the US Government they so adore?

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 19:21 | Link to Comment Amish Hacker
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Jeez, Rodent, why so testy? Let me clarify. I was giving Fencejumper the correct quote from former VP Cheney, made during his confirmation hearings as Sec. of Defense before the Senate Armed Services Committee in 1989. Fencejumper's quote was closer to a remark made by John Kerry in 2004, when VP Cheney was attacking Kerry's patriotism and ability to serve as President. Kerry said that Cheney had "got every deferment in the world and decided he had better things to do."

 http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/01/politics/campaign/01CHEN.html

Pardon me for conflating the two events. But the point is that that we were discussing the hypocrisy of many politicians, who go around beating the drum for more wars, even though they never served in the military. Surely Richard Bruce Cheney's name should be at or near the top of that list of "Chickenhawks." It's not a matter of political opinion, it's a matter of historical record.

Really, I think your inability to be respectful of the other opinions expressed in this forum, and your unwillingness to adjust your own opinions in the light of overwhelming facts, contribute nothing useful to the discussion.

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 19:56 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Why would I be respectful of facts so totally wrong?

John Kerry is a traitorous pos and I am unlikely to put any value in those who support that waste of flesh.

Yet another rich, socialist scum bag. What a surprise.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 20:49 | Link to Comment RichardP
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If a pos speaks facts, they are still facts.  You don't pay attention to facts if a pos says them?

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 21:03 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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They were not facts, but lies to gain the approval of the anti-Americans.

Kerry was, and is, a lying sack of shit.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 22:18 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Consider that pathological liars are in the habit of answering with statements that bear an element of truth while being ultimately false when some omission is revealed.

Maybe Cheney is Satan.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 23:22 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 His book is on the shelve as we speak.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 14:52 | Link to Comment JR
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A key John Perkins’ revelation in Confessions of an Economic Hit Man is that the globalists use the overthrow of governments as part of their accumulation of resources. Today, the latest on Libya:

NATO Savagery in Libya Escalates, posted by retired economics professor Michael S. Rozeff on The LRC Blog :

NATO’s bombing campaign has ramped up to all of Libya. Don’t be fooled by the euphemism or excuse of bombing Qaddafi “command centers.” One blog source says that 30 more Libyans died in bombing of the Waw al-Kabir region. NATO has lately been bombarding ports, ships, fishing boats, and harbors. Western Capitals continue to ignore all offers of cease fires. NATO’s latest lame excuse for widespread bombing is to disrupt Qaddafi’s communications. This is a standard propaganda ploy as used in Afghanistan. It is a rationale that has even been used to justify dropping the atomic bomb!

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/88483.html

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 14:57 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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Go to PuffHo and look at all the chickenhawks cheering for war with Libya and Pakistan. Obama, Fuck Yeah! 

Don't bother posting anything opposing these mindless Obots. The censors wo't let your post through unless you support more bombs dropped on the our newest enemies.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:13 | Link to Comment Iriestx
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Why would you want to comment at HuffPo anyway? 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:25 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Why do herds move in the same direction?

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 20:07 | Link to Comment Votewithabullet
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Boo yay busted. Cuz HES A FUCKING HOMO that why. Bummed cuz he cant post @ Huff po..CUNT

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 22:56 | Link to Comment Idisq
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Please shut the fuck up. You add nothing of any value.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 08:51 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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He's mad at gay people. I think it's a bit of self hatred mixed in with a seething rage at the well hung dude who stretched out his ears, ripped off his uvula and made his adam's apple look like Anne Coulter's.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 19:29 | Link to Comment Hansel
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I agree with you. Now both parties love warmongering.  Anyone who dissents is ignored.

OM

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 21:28 | Link to Comment JR
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Agreed, sun tzu.

Is it anti-Semitic to oppose war?  Or, when Arianna Huffington banned Justin Raimondo because he was too hard on Israel, does that mean opposing Israeli policies is anti-Semitic?  

Here’s Raimondo, one of the world’s greatest investigative reporters, writing a desperate fund raising column to save his web site from the rising tide of smear campaigns:

Without independent journalism – that is, journalism free of cant, of ‘elite’ connections, of corporate control – there can be no democracy, no liberty, and certainly no peace. We won’t have a change in our crazed foreign policy until and unless we have a news media worthy of the name.”

Antiwar.com may be facing extinction for carrying the truth about war, ending Raimondo’s and a cast of other writers’ no-holds columns and pertinent and unbiased war and political news.  

But no such fate faces the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) with its multimillion budgets (reporting $4,859,413 in revenue and $4,275,968 in expenses in 2007),  subsidized by US taxpayers as a 501(c)3 non-profit organization, and its plethora of pro-Likud hardline pro-Israel pro-war views.

Raimondo subsists on peanuts from the peanut gallery (the last I saw him,  he was driving an old rusty, dulled-down red  economy import on its last transmission)  and on his passion to present the truth about Washington’s foreign policy of global intervention to the American people. MEMRI’s heavy weight staff, on the other hand, lives high on the kosher hog.

.Writes Raimondo this week in his column What We’re Up Against: The elites, the blacklist, and the “mainstream” media:

“As for us here at Antiwar.com: our nominal allies, the ‘progressive’ antiwar movement of yesteryear, have deserted us in droves. As long as it’s not a Republican President slaughtering innocent civilians, as long as it’s ‘our first African-American president’ invading the Muslim world, as long as their team is in power – well, then, it’s okay, everything’s hunky-dory, and please don’t rock the boat.”

We face the conundrum, says Raimondo, of “how to speak truth to power when the powerful control the media, the money, and the ‘mainstream’ :

’Oh, so you want us to get out of Afghanistan – well, that’s just not “mainstream,” don’tcha know?!’

’You say you’re sick of endless war, and America’s emerging police state? What are you – some kind of rabid “extremist”?’

“The smear campaign against me I don’t mind so much: it’s too absurd to be taken seriously, and, besides that, I never sought to become a ‘mainstream’ media ‘star.’ I have to say, however, when I was purged as a blogger from the Huffington Post, the reasons given to me by cult-follower Arianna Huffington were quite explicit: I’m too hard on Israel. A letter-writing campaign to get me off the site was apparently quite successful.

“I can live without being one of Arianna’s unpaid blog-slaves: the point is that, in Arianna’s world, the arbiters of political correctness and good taste have divined that I’m a purveyor of ‘conspiracy theories,’ to use her phrase. That’s code for any opinion that holds our elites responsible for the present state of the world. If Arianna wanted to stay a member in good standing of that elite – she once boasted about having the President’s personal phone number ensconced in her legendary Blackberry – I had to go, and go I did.

“Antiwar.com has never gotten a blessed dime from any big foundation, left or right. A recent attempt by someone affiliated with a major libertarian foundation that sponsors interns to work with us was vetoed by ‘headquarters’ –no names here, but you get the idea. One would think that a web site of this type, with an entire stable of articulate and readily available writers, would garner lots of face time in the cable news universe, where foreign policy matters are now all the rage: and you would be wrong. There’s only one side of the ‘debate’ that’s allowed to appear in television, for the most part, and that’s the War Party’s side.

“Aside from the media blackout, however, there’s another side to the dominance of the Obama cult in ‘progressive’ circles that is having a significant effect on Antiwar.com’s fortunes: fund-raising. Our current fund-raising campaign is, so far, an absolute disaster. On the morning of the second day of the campaign, we had less than $3000 raised. If this goes on, we will be forced to close down in the very near future – it’s as simple as that…”

http://antiwar.com/

In the first five days of its fund drive, Antiwar.com has reached $16,521 of its $100,000 goal.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 23:27 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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  J.R. are you really sure? Your post is awfully late.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 00:12 | Link to Comment JR
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Good to hear from you, Yen Cross.  Yes, I’m sure.

And this is more of the latest on the ANTIWAR.BLOG :

Netanyahu Speaks — Hilarity Ensues posted by Justin Raimondo, May 20, 2011:

 Jeffrey Goldberg writing in The Atlantic:

“I was … taken aback when I read a statement from Prime Minister Netanyahu yesterday that he ‘expects to hear a reaffirmation from President Obama of U.S. commitments made to Israel in 2004, which were overwhelmingly supported by both Houses of Congress.’

“So Netanyahu ‘expects’ to hear this from the President of the United States? And if President Obama doesn’t walk back the speech, what will Netanyahu do? Will he cut off Israeli military aid to the U.S.?”

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 11:20 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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Wish I had come along earlier. Great posts!

History before our eyes - so sad to see evil win so easily.

Maybe Justin can find a roost at ZH?

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 15:23 | Link to Comment thriftymost
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He'll cut off Jewish money to the Obama admin/USG.

 

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 14:53 | Link to Comment goldenrod
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This is a very good time to load up on oil & natural gas related investments.  I particularly like ERF, PWE, PBT, BTE, CVE, ECA and CHK.  Some of these are Canadian companies which pay dividends in Canadian $ which is a major plus. Natural gas is very cheap now and will be expensive in a few years.  I particularly love ECA and CHK.

I think buying natural gas now is like buying gold in 2002-2003.

 

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:03 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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NG prices have been depressed in the $4/mbtu for years now. Then again, the NG market isn't the same as the oil market. It is not easy to transfer NG across oceans since it is in gas form. The only things that can drive NG prices up are hurricanes and the US government. 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:25 | Link to Comment goldenrod
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NG is depressed because of the discovery and extraction of shale NG.  Unfortunately shale NG wells have a a very short life and fracking causes contamination of ground water.  In a few years the shale NG boom will end and NG will start climbing again.  I expect NG to be expensive again by 2015-2016.

 

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:04 | Link to Comment rokakoma
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Actually LHD5 is also heading there ...

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:38 | Link to Comment jimijon
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And not the LSD25 ?

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 18:23 | Link to Comment NuckingFuts
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MK Ultra..

I think the Kool Aid has already been spiked.  Only a tripper could think up this shit.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:06 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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 This project sounds very conventional. In short, it seems to provide all the tagets necessary to keep a Carrier Air Wing busy for a day or two. For second and third rate powers, the only possible chance of any effective air defence is based on mobile launchers and radar systems. Much as the top of the line Russian anti aircraft systems are. Bunkers, command centers, fixed radars, they don't last five minutes in this modern air power era.

Mobile, very mobile means more survivable over time. Get in a few shots and scoot under cover. Also the best passive detection systems key off of aircraft's own electronic emissions. These are also part of the Russian air defence systems.

If Iran builds this conventional project, it is simply a set of easy targets.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:18 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Columbia is an ally of the US.

Obama will, therefore, throw them under the bus.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:21 | Link to Comment downwiththebanks
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Sure thing, NaziRat.  I guess that's why he brought in the lawyer for the oligarchs who own and run drugs out of Colombia to run his Department of Justice!

Barry's all about the Empire.  He's as eager as you to kill union organizers!

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:29 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Why would I care? Keeps my tax rates lower even if true.

You are wrong about Zero's union connections. He blows all unions. Hell, he'll swallow as the elections approach.

The other way you fund socialism is conquest. I can live with that too.

Moral hazard is a bitch, ain't it?

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 18:11 | Link to Comment zaknick
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Hey Rodent, go fuck yourself with a fire hose, bitch. "Colombia" (not Columbia you degenerate scum. Your ilk created the drug cartels which degenerared into the drug trafficking, chainsaw wielding paramilitaries (under your CIA mole Uribe). Your bankster-created black market funded the destabilization of Colombia so you could "cone in and save it with plan Colombia". It is no coincidence that the mining law was signed with the guerrillas at Bogota's city gates.

Allies? Only as long as your lies are allowed to stand.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 19:13 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Hehehe.

You sound unhappy. Winning is good. Maybe, some day, you'll get a taste of it. Probably not, but you never know.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:51 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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You're such a pathetic dumbass. SEIU president Andy Stern has visited the White House 481 times since Obunghole became president. What was the GM bailout all about? Retirees had their savings stolen and transferreed to UAW union thugs.

You're the Mississippi River of stupidity and ignorance. 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:21 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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Do aircraft carriers last?

I don't recall them having been put to real test in the past 30 years or so.  Would be interesting to see if those big bad boogeymen Russkie missiles are worth a damn.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:28 | Link to Comment DosZap
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If a 5000 man crew and a Carrier goes down, you do not want to even be alive to see the aftermath of that one.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:32 | Link to Comment DosZap
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If a 5000 man crew and a Carrier goes down, you do not want to even be alive to see the aftermath of that one.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 17:26 | Link to Comment DosZap
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If Iran builds this conventional project, it is simply a set of easy targets.

 

Agreed, but WHY allow it to begin with?.

Alll it will do is cause other tinhorn dictators to do the same elsewhere.

That little 4'-2" midget Islamofascist , and Chavez need to be put on notice before it even starts.

Easy nuclear targets when destroyed tend to be a lot more destructive after their destroyed,than none to begin with.

 

Kennedy did it, and I see no difference.

No one wants war with anyone else, why feed their appetites.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:07 | Link to Comment DarthVaderMentor
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Yes, there will be military action in Venezuela and Iran shortly. Barack needs a diversion that'll really look like defending American interests somewhere else other than the Middle East. Iran will be dealt with by Israel and the Europeans, unless Obama has pissed off the Israelis to the point they'll never help us again.

The sad truth is that Bush hit the wrong countries about WMD and now Obama will face a more determined and prepared foe in Iran that's using a more foolish proxy like Venezuela.

We're in for a decade of warfare.

 

 

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:25 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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Can there be any doubt that Hussein would have been doing the same thing the Iranians are doing right now? Also, look at Gadaffi is there a weapons of mass destruction issue there? No he was accused of murdering his own people ... just like Hussein in Iraq.

You will never hear the main stream media think this one out or accuse Obama of being in a wrongful war though will we.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:54 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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You're saying if Bush had attacked Iran instead of Iraq, the democrats would have supported it? Sure. 

Do you really think Europe will deal with Iran? They couldn't even handle the Kosovo action in their own backyard. 

Why do we need to go to war with Venezuela or Iran? Since when did we have to go to war with every damn country in the world that doesn't kiss our ass?

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 19:04 | Link to Comment naughtius maximus
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1945

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 00:51 | Link to Comment lawrence1
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The US owners have conducted endless wars and this will obviously continue ... its good for the multi-nationals. And I hope Obama does not pay with his life for disobeying Israel.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 13:08 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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I feel quite really amazed how blunt, naked yet powerful the AIPAC is in the public stages in the USA. It's so perplexing to watch how the American can live and take such situation as normal... strange world but real!

who is the master who is the servant... just figure it by yourself :D

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 12:47 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says Europe 'stealing Iran's rain' Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has accused Western countries of plotting to "cause drought" in Iran by using high tech equipment to drain the clouds. Mr. Ahmadinejad says that European countries are using special equipment to force clouds to 'dump' Iran's water on their own continent.

Moments after the Iranian president made the startling claim at the inauguration of a dam in a central province, it started to rain.

"Western countries have designed plans to cause drought in certain areas of the world, including Iran," Mr Ahmadinejad said in the city of Arak in Markazi province.

"According to reports on climate, whose accuracy has been verified, European countries are using special equipment to force clouds to dump" their water on their continent, he said.

By doing so, "they prevent rain clouds from reaching regional countries, including Iran," Mr Ahmadinejad charged.

Iran has experienced several droughts in recent years.

more:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8527455/Mahmou...
Sat, 05/21/2011 - 15:06 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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  Cuba is about due to have it's cold war isolation collapse. I wonder how the US has planned for the transition from communism to capitalism in Cuba? Or is this all in the hands of the Cuban American Community?

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