This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.

US Naval Update: It's A Mediterranean Party And The Enterprise Is Invited - Libyan Endgame Expected Within 5-7 Days

Tyler Durden's picture





 

As we speculated last week, the LHD 3 Kearsarge deftly left the treacherous waters of the Red Sea a few days ago, and after crossing the Suez is now well on its way to the shores of Tripoli (where it is set to meet Canadian, Korean and Dutch warships). Yet to those who argue that the US military is a well-oiled machine, look no further than the schizophrenic moves the CVN 65 Enterprise has had to endure in the past two weeks: after it was just off the coast of Libya as recently as February 9, and rushing into the Red Sea in direction Straits of Hormuz two weeks ago, the storied aircraft carrier was halted dead in its tracks en route, and ordered to do a 180. It is now hot on the heels of the Kearsarge and we believe will also cross the Suez within 48 hours as it moves in to provide air support to Libya by the weekend. And with air coverage, the no fly zone will likely be instituted by Monday of next week, which, as Robert Gates telegraphed earlier, is the codeword for a "NATO" invasion. Which means this weekend will likely be do or die in terms of game theory defection choices for the Gaddafi family: will he defect peacefully and spend the rest of his days with his friend Robert Mugabe, the world's second best performing stock market after the NYSE Borse, and a few hundred pounds of gold, or will he set fire to the Libyan oil infrastructure as he leaves the scene kicking and screaming.

Source: Stratfor

 


- advertisements -

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:38 | Link to Comment bigmikeO
bigmikeO's picture

Why gold? JK

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:50 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

I invite all to go see the Bearing's Press Release further below.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:09 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
TruthInSunshine's picture

Sorry for the OT link, but I do believe ZH and all here WILL understand:

Hot off the press, from The New York Times; a story on JP Morgan & HSBC and their manipulation of silver markets (this is BIG):

A Conspiracy With a Silver Lining

"Accusations that two banks manipulated a precious metal market are worth looking into."

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:42 | Link to Comment Missiondweller
Missiondweller's picture

Thanks for the link

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:46 | Link to Comment JuicyTheAnimal
JuicyTheAnimal's picture

Recently I notice that metals are tied to oil prices.  Is it that higher oil prices ensure economic downturn which ensures QE3?  Funny that stocks go in opposite direction of Oil.  Because they love QE as well.  

Anyways, read that article, it's an "opinion" peice.  Most of it is not opinion though.  Will this have any effect on Silver prices tomorrow?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:49 | Link to Comment JuicyTheAnimal
JuicyTheAnimal's picture

Example,  Libya peace talks cuased oil to tank and metals are down, gold off $10 at the moment. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 07:35 | Link to Comment jesse livermoore
jesse livermoore's picture

only one year late with the story....good job NYTIMES

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:26 | Link to Comment RmcAZ
RmcAZ's picture

Because he's hungry.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:50 | Link to Comment bankrupt JPM bu...
bankrupt JPM buy silver's picture

Isreal feels the heat.  And the heat is coming.  Good thing you have OWEbama to call up and send over some small military floating devices laced with pea shooters at the expense of the US tax payer. 

 

www.silvergoldsilver.blogspot.com

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:08 | Link to Comment sun tzu
sun tzu's picture

What does Israel have to do with Libya? Every time there is trouble in the Muslim country the clowns blame it on Israel.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 09:41 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
gmrpeabody's picture

Do not interfere with the Israeli bashing clowns..., you WILL BE JUNKED!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 05:54 | Link to Comment shortus cynicus
shortus cynicus's picture

Please anyone stop repeating again and again all this "tax payer" myth financing anything.

As we all know, all that money is just simply printed out of thin ear.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 07:05 | Link to Comment Djirk
Djirk's picture

for anyone who listen to my rantings, I predicted a supply shock will take the blame for inflation while the Fed continues to deny it's existence.

heeeeeere we go

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 07:08 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
AnAnonymous's picture

Please anyone stop repeating again and again all this "tax payer" myth financing anything.

As we all know, all that money is just simply printed out of thin ear.

 

Good luck with that. Victimhood is high on this site and many US citizens on here love to depict themselves as being bled dry by the US government.

A way to claim they retain value for their value who has grown less and less dependent on them actually.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 08:38 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
ColonelCooper's picture

As spoken by one apparently NON ass raped taxpayer. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 09:18 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
AnAnonymous's picture

Those are a rare breed as US tax payers money story is a myth. The US has been living on credit for a long time by now... That definitively reduced the amount of activity actually funded by tax payers.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 08:31 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
ColonelCooper's picture

Then why doesn't the government quit trying to get more of my money and just print it?  As far as I am concerned, every penny they spend came from me.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 09:21 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
AnAnonymous's picture

Sure, sure. Tax holiday by here, tax holiday by there...

The US is ( supposedly) in the middle of debt crisis and allows itself tax relief everywhere. Should tell a lot.

 

Actually, if US citizens had half of a bit of honesty, that would be easy for them to admit that the majority of people who are on the rough side of US taxation policy are non US citizens located outside the US, through the taxation theft operated by the US through the USD thanks to world reserve currency.

If you are looking for true victims of US taxation policies, dont look home, look abroad. That is where they are. With in mind that the US preach for no taxation without representation... The good joke.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 09:43 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
gmrpeabody's picture

+1

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 09:53 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
ColonelCooper's picture

Look.  When TBTF are no longer raking in billions of "tax" dollars in reward for bad business policies, and some convenient bond flipping, we can talk.

When politicians are willing to undergo an honest discussion of how we're going to deal with entitlements, (focus SS, med. not SNAP) we can talk.

When I am not encouraged to make unwise financial decisions in order to shelter money, we can talk. (Boy, I'm not spending my money the way TPTB want so I can just give them more of it).

When the "porkbook" can be printed on one page, we can talk. (I understand it doesn't amount to shit, but it's the principle and it pisses me off)

I'm not a foaming at the mouth anti-tax guy.  I am an insanely pissed off anti waste and stupid beaurocracy guy.  When you have enough money taken out of your checks in a year to cover the average American household income, and STILL owe a few thousand at tax time?  FUCK ME.

And then to be preached at by people who think I'm too stupid to understand the big picture?  Lecture me about reserve currency and an oppressive US?  Apples to Oranges. FUCK ME.  And then to have a bunch of lefties who for the most part don't pay any income taxes in the first place tell me I don't cover my "Fair Share"?  FUCK ME all over again.

I've never met ANYONE in my life who if they weren't unhappy about their taxes, actually paid enough of them to care.

Oh, but I'm "rich" I forgot.  FUCK ME, FUCK YOU, FUCK SOMEBODY.

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 10:24 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
AnAnonymous's picture

No matter how much you are taxed, this does not cover up for the US spendings. Tax collection is on the lower side and the US keeps spending ever more.

The difference comes from credit expansion, under all forms.

The US tax payer being bled to cover for US spending spree is a myth. The rest of the world is bled to support the US policy. Not the US tax payer.

The victimizer can not be the victim.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 10:47 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
ColonelCooper's picture

Your basic point is correct, but doesn't invalidate mine.  I never justified ANYTHING the US does in terms of fiscal policy.  For you however to say that I can't be bled out because somebody else is, is illogical.

I live a fine life.  I am comfortable.  I never said I wasn't.  I've never really even said that what I pay is affecting me negatively, or that I'm generally pissed at the amount, rather than the way it is used.  What I am saying is that because I understand your point, I find it that much more aggravating when the Government refuses to address spending AT ALL, and then wants more money from me because of it.  Two wrongs don't make a right.

If you have read any of my posts in the last year, you would see I have stated multiple times that the average American lifestyle needs a haircut.   Well, we're gonna get one the hard way, but because we are blind idiots it's gonna be a boot camp cut, not a day at the salon.

I said it before.  I'll say it again.  I'm not anti-tax.  But when the already substantial amount I pay continues to go up while the root problem (you and I agree somewhat on that) isn't addressed, why shouldn't I be upset?  How am I wrong on that?  Don't think for one second that I'm buying into some Republican Party mantra that if we just cut taxes we're going to magically grow our way out of this.  I'm mad at the system in it's entirety, and you're playing class warfare on a global scale. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 11:36 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
AnAnonymous's picture

Class warfare? It has little to do with class warfare. Non US rich people living out of the US are submitted to the US tax policies bad sides just like any other non US person outside the US.

 

If you are aware that tax collection is down in the US, that tax relief is common, you might be one of the few unfortunates to be caught in a different dynamics than the average dynamics the US citizens live in.

Call a financial advisor so that you join the average trend which is one  of tax exemption.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 13:06 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
ColonelCooper's picture

Maybe the class warfare thing was mistakenly inferred.  Note that I said that when I am no longer encouraged to make bad financial decisions to shelter money, we can talk.  Tax revenues are down, yet instead of even pretending to try to live within our means we double down.  I don't give money to junkies on street corners who are staring glassy eyed at their dealer across the street, and I'm not happy about having it taken from me at gunpoint by governments at all levels who are unwilling to "take the cure".   It isn't about the money per se, it's about throwing it in the toilet.  If I was being taxed under a similar progressive system that was functional, or had a snowball's chance in Hell of sustaining itself, you wouldn't hear a peep from me. 

The way it is right now, I'm just giving it to junkies.  AND being told that I'm rich, I'm greedy, and that I don't contribute enough.  Problem is, enough is never enough.  Revenues are down at the Federal level, less is coming into the state, now less is trickling back to the county, the city.....  We had better raise the state tax.  And even though your property values have plummeted, you'll continue to be taxed at the same rate or higher, depending on whatever new assessments we can dream up.  And we had better have a new and improved sales tax, oh and let's criminalize some petty bullshit so we can give out more tickets.  And we forgot, we're voting on a new levy for the school. And and and and.  Enough is never enough, but if we don't run a new DSL line down this gravel road for fifteen miles to service two houses, then we are discriminating against the poor.  And oh, hey! private contractor: You had better keep running your old trucks down the road because the county needs to replace theirs before they hit 100K, and while we're at it we'll step up DOT "safety" (snort) enforcement and you had better pay the $375 dollar ticket because your truck has a torn mudflap and the monthly inspection tag on your fire extinguisher seems to have blown off. Oh you forgot your wallet?  Here's another $150 you owe us because you didn't have a copy of your physical with you.  Meanwhile our President and first lady tell us we're fat while they fly their personal trainer halfway across the country once a week.  But we ALL need to share in the sacrifice, so bend over while we reach up your ass and try to scrape one more fucking dollar out of your large intestine.   

I am one of the few I know that recognize the need of MAJOR consumption haircuts, AND advocate them.  And yes, I do understand what that means, For my lifestyle and the repercussions that would be felt worldwide.  I believe it's (sadly) unavoidable.  [insert Mako quote of choice here]  I don't judge the quality of my life by the gadgets I own or the cars in my driveway,  and I'm tired of being told that we have to cut back on teachers and cops unless you pay more, when we're paving new bike paths around the lake. 

For the average Joe caught in an unfortunate tax dynamic, sheltering money consists solely of feeding the beast we are BOTH railing against.  If you choose not to invest in market based retirement accounts, you are penalized.  If you do, God forbid you actually need access to any of that "savings", because you'll be penalized with a vengeance.  If you choose not to replace perfectly serviceable equipment that is depreciated out, you are penalized.  If you need to sell an asset that you chose to invest in because you need to meet unforeseen expenses, you are penalized even harder.   You are only incentivized to invest/save in areas that promote increased debt, fractional lending, and propping up a ponzi.  Frugality, sufficiency and hard work are only rewarded in the US if you play THEIR game.  I don't, and will continue to rail against the system.  Is my forehead getting mushy yet from beating it against the wall?  Probably.

I do have a financial advisor BTW, and an accountant.  They both think I'm a fool.  Maybe they're right.   

 

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:38 | Link to Comment Cistercian
Cistercian's picture

 Oil....I can't wait to see the price action now.

   And the Libyans will be so happy too.

 NOT

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:22 | Link to Comment angrybill
angrybill's picture

The only way is up!

 

http://www.thepelicanpost.org/2011/03/02/shell-study-affirms-peak-oil-theory-3/

 

The navy is just taking a couple of tankers over to top up the strategic reserves (& it'll go up & stay up if they do indeed prime the strategic reserve anytime soon...)

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:38 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
Dr. Porkchop's picture

Call Paul Bremmer, we need a provisional authority set up stat.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:29 | Link to Comment Village Idiot
Village Idiot's picture

"Paul Bremmer's our man, if he can't do it, nobody can!"

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:41 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
Id fight Gandhi's picture

If it's end game with any connection to the us military involvement, it will not go over well.

These people need to take care of their own uprising and country.

Its all too obvious now the Saudis are shitting themselves and want us to protect their interests.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:26 | Link to Comment web bot
web bot's picture

A couple of missiles pointed at his military command and control, while signalling to the Libyans NATO's intentions would be welcomed. Nothing more beyond.

The angry wife (Clinton) today was munching on words to this effect... the greater question remains who will take over after this nut bar is rewrapped and gone? We should have them lined up prior to pressing the <fire> button.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:45 | Link to Comment JoeSexPack
JoeSexPack's picture

Off topic, but NY Times has an article about JPM silver manipulation.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/02/a-conspiracy-with-a-silv...

That they printed it is progress, & evidence they can't hide silver's rise any longer, though they did mention conspiracies several times to taint.

Tried to send to Tyler but can't find a submissions link, or a way to track prior posts, new here & help is appreciated.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:03 | Link to Comment Bob
Bob's picture

tips@zerohedge.org

Track posts--what do you mean?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:33 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
TruthInSunshine's picture

I sent 7 things to TD lately, and I'm not sure he's getting email right now, hence my public posting above.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:10 | Link to Comment JoeSexPack
JoeSexPack's picture

Some sites have commentators login, with a linked list of previous posts, so they are easier to follow & reply.

Otherwise we need to remember article names, approximate dates, location in comment thread, etc.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 08:00 | Link to Comment Bob
Bob's picture

If you mean commentators as people who post featured articles/site content, there's a chronological link to "Contibutors" on the top menu bar under the banner.  If you mean commentators as users, i.e., commentors like us right here in the threads, you can track using the menu on the box in the left margin under your name.  Click "my account" and then "track".  You'll find that your own list of articles/disussions "visited" will be continuously updated as other people add to those article discussions--not too useful unless you're checking it nearly every day.  Likewise, if you click on the avatar of another commentor in any thread, you can "track" them.  To "track" you must be logged in.

The site Search function can be of some use for both types of posts.  But, to be honest, none of these "tools" really do the job the way you would wish. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 11:50 | Link to Comment JoeSexPack
JoeSexPack's picture

Thanks, Bob.

The track function gets me to the articles & I'll search from there.

JSP

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:04 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
topcallingtroll's picture

Thanks for letting me know. There were zero comments so I put one in. I can read charts. Barring a big black swan silver is clearly going higher.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:46 | Link to Comment Azwethinkweiz
Azwethinkweiz's picture

Forget American Idol, suddenly I'm in the mood to watch Black Hawk Down.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:47 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
Rusty Shorts's picture

Resource grab ... MUAAAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHHAHAAA

 

BITCHEZ

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fFy6nBonfs&feature=feedu

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:26 | Link to Comment Phaethon
Phaethon's picture

You misspelled Muammar.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:55 | Link to Comment Perseid.Rocks
Perseid.Rocks's picture

We have to liberate all that oil.. we did no less for the Iraqqan people. America, land of liberation. We liberate the people from their land, then we liberate them from their oil... then we loan them money which they can never pay back, thereby ensuring their fealty to the empire.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:11 | Link to Comment sun tzu
sun tzu's picture

We loan them so much money that we're $14 trillion in debt

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:14 | Link to Comment Perseid.Rocks
Perseid.Rocks's picture

Ok, the owners loan out the money, through the wonders of fractional reserve lending.. and these days you don't even need any reserves, just a friend in the government which has the biggest schtick. Then all the wealth continues flowing in one direction (back to the owners).

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 06:25 | Link to Comment Mentaliusanything
Mentaliusanything's picture

Allthough non will read it a voice calls out......

When Algeria fell, we had no oil so none cared.

When Egypt fell, we had no oil so none cared

when Libya  falls we have sweet light crude for the taking and the usual suspects will turn up.

Tis a curse that will spread --- mark these words---- until they own oil of it

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 08:43 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
AnAnonymous's picture

America, land of liberation. We liberate the people from their land, then we liberate them from their oil...

 

Well summed up.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:48 | Link to Comment slow_roast
slow_roast's picture

So what is the money making move here?  Straddle? 

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:56 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

Once again the Bearing wishes to apologize for the below announcement wich is O/T, but perhaps relevant to some.  This announcement has been cross-posted at the older (EDIT: gold) thread as well as the China thread.

 

 

 

Press Release

==========

DoChenRollingBearing announces that he is likely to re-enter the physical gold market as a buyer very soon.

The Bearing wanted to allow some opportunity for alert and quick acting ZH-ers to front-run him.

This will also allow the Bearing to fight with more gusto against trolls and allow him to write things like:

Gold, bitchez!

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:23 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
Rusty Shorts's picture

I can get your physical gold Bearing, it's in Obuasi, Ghana. 10 kilos per month minimum @ 3% below assay. I do require a retainer fee and travel expenses.

 

Here's one of my videos documenting my legwork, escape routes, etc., etc. see if you can spot the Gold around 1:54.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAaOYjHb9K0

 

I can get you a quote. 

 

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:25 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
Rusty Shorts's picture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAaOYjHb9K0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd86EXTIEn0

 

Just so you know I ain't shitting you, left you a shout out in the comments section.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:38 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

Thanks for the offer Rusty, but the Bearing is strictly a retail buyer (typically 1 - 4 toz per purchase).

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:45 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
Rusty Shorts's picture

Good for you, party on !!!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:29 | Link to Comment dogbreath
dogbreath's picture

so you withheld sex from your wife for long enough and she has relented to you buying gold

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:35 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

Only a real optimist would say or believe that about me...

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:37 | Link to Comment dogbreath
dogbreath's picture

I have come to think of myself as a pragmatic contrarian.  I am not very optimistic.  I am glad though that your wife has agreed to let you purchase more gold.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:49 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
topcallingtroll's picture

Obama is an internationalist. He will require a U.N. or arab league mandate before doing anything.

This means there will be no USA intervention.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:20 | Link to Comment sangell
sangell's picture

We can only hope. Very easy for the US military to topple Muslim dictators but not so easy to set up a new government. Libya is going to be in chaos when Gaddafi is gone just like Iraq.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:43 | Link to Comment zaknick
zaknick's picture

What an ass. If it was the redneck mccain doing it you'd be giddy, no?

I hope Gaddafi remembers what he fought for forty years ago; the same people who are out to steal Lybias oil. May he burn every last drop of it and its infrastructure before the redneck infidels lay their cotton pickin hands on it!

He wasn't called the mad dog for nothing! Financed all kinds of freedom fighters (ur "terrorists") all over the world. Must have had good reason to hate you bitches.

What is wrong with the American people? Why can't you live and let live in peace ? Why cant you have friendly and respectful trade and cultural relations with other countries like normal, decent people?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:14 | Link to Comment sun tzu
sun tzu's picture

Yes that racist mccain. Die all you racist crackers

 

Col Ghaddafi is a real man of the people

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:20 | Link to Comment GreenSideUp
GreenSideUp's picture

What is wrong with the American people? Why can't you live and let live in peace ? Why cant you have friendly and respectful trade and cultural relations with other countries like normal, decent people?

Please do not collectivize all the American people as being war mongers. I, for one, would love it if the US would live and let live and leave everyone on the planet, including its own citizens, the hell alone.  


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:05 | Link to Comment Mercury
Mercury's picture

I really (still) don't think Obama will put U.S. soldiers on Libyan soil.  Even the no-fly zone thing  (which would at least involve taking out Gaddafi's AA weaponry) seems very unlikely to me.

This kind of thing isn't Obama's bag (to put it mildly) and he sure as hell isn't into military strategic ambiguity.  So even if he is gung-ho about using amphibious/air power to assist anti-government rebels it doesn't look like he knows what the fuck he's doing.

God I hope this doesn't rhyme with the Jimmy Carter helicopter rescue attempt in Iran.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:14 | Link to Comment Azwethinkweiz
Azwethinkweiz's picture

I can't wait until Donald Trump is president---he'd just call Gaddafi up and say, "You're Fired!"

Did he announce something today because all the women are saying what a wonderful president he'd make.

God help us all.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:16 | Link to Comment Things that go bump
Things that go bump's picture

Ouch, I wish you hadn't reminded me of that.  

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:16 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
Oh regional Indian's picture

Merc, safe to say, at least since 1913, that no US pres has been an independent power unto himself. The very tellign speeches and writigns of Benjamin Friedman are quite telling. How Brandice became a Justice is a story that is a tell of pretty much everythign that has followed, the farce that is the official UNITED STATES.

Safe to say that everything hapening now, down to deployment details are firmly in the hands of the Bankster army, aka the CIA controlled pentagream. 

The surprises are for us, the outsiders.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/on-outsourcing-and-its-ills/

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 03:15 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
AnAnonymous's picture

I really (still) don't think Obama will put U.S. soldiers on Libyan soil. 

 

What about ships in Libyan waters?

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:52 | Link to Comment glenlloyd
glenlloyd's picture

for some reason I'm thinking the 'kicking and screaming' route is the one he'll follow.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:01 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
penisouraus erecti's picture

If I was a betting man, I'd bet on kicking and screaming. But, we'll see.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:54 | Link to Comment lsbumblebee
lsbumblebee's picture

It's really great to see the nations of the world finally coming together, working for a common cause.

Earl

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:57 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
Dr. Porkchop's picture

Come on, I just need the world to hold together another week or so until I can get my bonus and spend it on PMs! <xfingers>

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:10 | Link to Comment I Got Worms
I Got Worms's picture

Ditto. March 10th is bonus day, and I am heading straight to the coin store to clean them out. I'd prefer the planet wait until March 11th to go to hell.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:53 | Link to Comment palmereldritch
palmereldritch's picture

Your timing will be good, assuming the market doesn't factor in advance this planned event in Saudi Arabia courtesy of MI6's Muslim Brotherhood on March 11

http://af.reuters.com/article/tunisiaNews/idAFLDE71M08Q20110223?sp=true

Timing the total chaos and carnage in Libya but still securing the oil infrastructure to culiminate for the next planned eruption will take expert precision.

My but how these social engineers love their 11's...

Let's double up and speculate maybe the next will be March 22...3/22, very special for that other brotherhood...S+B, the Brotherhood of Death...

Yep, 2011 is beginning to look like a busy party year for the demons of destruction.  No surprise there.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:01 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
Id fight Gandhi's picture

As far as deposed dictators go. Do you think he'll go the mussolini, hitler or saddam way?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:27 | Link to Comment Things that go bump
Things that go bump's picture

*

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:47 | Link to Comment slvrizgold
slvrizgold's picture

I think he'll go the way he almost went back in 1986.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:04 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
Pseudo Anonym's picture

codeword for a "NATO" invasion

no surprise here. the first mission of the zionist USA will be a pit stop at the CB in Tripoli to re-stock hofjuden vaults in London with Libya's gold. And, of course, Q-duffy will be blamed for the "missing" gold.

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:04 | Link to Comment sellstop
sellstop's picture

Kaddafi will get the last of his mercenary army killed and then he will sneak out of the country. He is a coward.

gh

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:08 | Link to Comment themosmitsos
themosmitsos's picture

Tyler, I'll be stunned if US/NATO does anything, because Obama is too chicken-shit a cocksucker to do ANYTHING

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 08:56 | Link to Comment Treeplanter
Treeplanter's picture

True.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:08 | Link to Comment RoRoTrader
RoRoTrader's picture

May be in for some wild price swings on the weekly timeframes.

If Gaddafi capitulates then a pullback to 97.50 and 95. If OIL breaks and holds well into the 100s it is no good news for the FED and its political class.

$4, $5, and $6 gasoline prices will have the revolt on the doorstep of DC.

Exploding prices will trigger a revolt for the simple reason that people will opt to just not pay (the govt of no moral authority).

A come and get it attitude will quickly move to the forefront of mainstream thinking regardless of what the toothless MSN broadcasts.

The simple psychology and social logic of it is the inverse of fiat.

Don't know where this may end but it certainly is getting more interesting by the day.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:07 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
buzzsaw99's picture

Gates already said it would take more than one aircraft carrier to enforce a no-fly zone. They can however blockade Tripoli while allowing relief in from the east.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:24 | Link to Comment BobPaulson
BobPaulson's picture

100% no-fly is tougher but sometimes planes do not go out on sorties when they only have a 50% chance of survival. An airtight seal is not needed when the pilots are not suicidal. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:33 | Link to Comment Drag Racer
Drag Racer's picture

he lied...

all you need for that area is 3 cap points to block them from getting airborn

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:12 | Link to Comment Ahmeexnal
Ahmeexnal's picture

Doubleplus good for the markets.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:12 | Link to Comment Misean
Misean's picture

Cue Kirk

"Red Alert!"

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:42 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
Dr. Porkchop's picture

Kirk would beam in there, punch Gaddafi in the face and bed his blonde nurse. Case closed.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:27 | Link to Comment palmereldritch
Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:25 | Link to Comment savagegoose
savagegoose's picture

u cant win peacenik of the year without bombing a few eggs

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:28 | Link to Comment johngaltfla
johngaltfla's picture
Article I - The Legislative Branch

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

What part of this is so difficult to understand? There are no American lives or interests at risk in Libya. If we are that pathetic, we deserve the fate heading towards us in the future.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:31 | Link to Comment Misean
Misean's picture

This debate was lost in 1950.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:31 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
Dr. Porkchop's picture

The constitution was declared a barbarous relic and replaced with the USA Patriot Act.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:55 | Link to Comment MarketTruth
MarketTruth's picture

And the last words innocent civis hear before they are murdered by invading foreign forces:

We're here on orders from the United States government. We are here to help you.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 08:59 | Link to Comment Treeplanter
Treeplanter's picture

You mean like after the big tsunami?  Go find a better country.  Good luck.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 00:57 | Link to Comment Strongbad
Strongbad's picture

Our Nobel Peace Prize president would never resort to violence to solve a problem.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:07 | Link to Comment Scottj88
Scottj88's picture

No surprise here...

Bankers rule the world...

http://thehardrightedge.com/america-under-attack-by-treasonous-bankers/

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:10 | Link to Comment cocoablini
cocoablini's picture

The President is smoking Virginia Slims and cowering in a corner- mumbling.
Is better to ask the real Bitberger schill, Hillary about what we do.
And, Jp and Goldmand have to unload their oil off boats at 120 a gallon before we "save" Libya.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 05:38 | Link to Comment Richard Head
Richard Head's picture

"Bitberger?"  "120 a gallon?"  Please stop posting.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:18 | Link to Comment web bot
web bot's picture

It's been reported that he is either delusional or on the edge of insane... so he'll probably go for the fireworks as he is exited.

 

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 05:59 | Link to Comment sushi
sushi's picture

Are you referring to K_Daffy or Obummer?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:18 | Link to Comment sun tzu
sun tzu's picture

0bama's real problem is that Ghaddafi is a good friend of Louis Farrakhan and the good Revvvvvvvvrend Jeremiah Wrong., 0bama's mentor and spiritual guide. 

 

I say stay out of it for once. Not our problem

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:43 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
Rusty Shorts's picture

HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw

 

 -

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 09:03 | Link to Comment Treeplanter
Treeplanter's picture

Must break the Fraud in Chief's heart to dis his mentors' good buddy and source of big bucks.  All the Jews' fault, as usual.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:39 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
bob_dabolina's picture

I have a Stratfor subscription but can you imagine if this type of information was available to the public during WWII?

New dynamic...like...for sure bro. Dude...where's my car?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 01:48 | Link to Comment celticgold
celticgold's picture

 hey... its really very simple..... war achieves peace

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:16 | Link to Comment chindit13
chindit13's picture

The US has definitely stirred the honey pot. Apparently the goal is to separate Qadhafi's country into two entities, Labia Majora and Labia Minora. The US will cede the relative flatlands of Majora and gravitate towards the more topographically significant Minora, as within those borders are produced the liquids that provide the very lifeblood of our existence.  After a probing raid to soften up the Minora's defenses, the primary thrust of the US invasion will occur there, though some are arguing that is a hole the US should not go down (on). Anal-ysts insert that the US should consider a back door approach, but traditionalists, who never waver from their mission(ary), want to go at it face to face. There will be blood, as there always is the first time one enters where no man has gone before, but that is the price one must pay to bring the affair to a climactic and satisfying end.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:30 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
Aristarchan's picture

I hate to disagree with you here, but the loss of Libyan oil against the loss of political capital under the existing circumstances in the Middle East is insignificant. Partitioning Libya is not the aim of the US. The aim of the US is to insure that Libya falls into friendly hands, with no loss of US blood, but is seen as happening at least partially because of US political and military pressure.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 03:18 | Link to Comment palmereldritch
palmereldritch's picture

I believe Chindit's argument is a blood for body oil proposition.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 06:29 | Link to Comment chindit13
chindit13's picture

Aristarchan, the doctor says...take two Viagra and call me in the morning.

"I don't avoid women, Mandrake, but I do deny them my essence."

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 07:21 | Link to Comment Pants McPants
Pants McPants's picture

Hahaha....back to back brilliance.  Well done, sir.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 06:10 | Link to Comment sushi
sushi's picture

Your analysis, while provocative, completely ignores both the G spot and the Digital Revolution.

CVN Enterprise has reversed course and will transit the canal. But she will not halt near the Labia but will continue westward across the Atlantic until she comes into proximity with the G spot. The G spot is a place of much congress and other NSFW terminology but the officers of the Enterprise are sworn to uphold the constitution and will therefore demand the restoration of a government that upholds the law and gives full effect to the constitution. No more bullcrap about NATO interventions in non-NATO areas when no NATO nation has come under attack. No more incremental undeclared wars cause Lady Porkbellies is having a monthly. After that is cleared up there are a few issues with PM price fixing, the failure to support capitalism, the creeping socialism of the rich, attacks on freedom of speech, government funded genital groping, and general reaming of the peons that will need to be resolved. Wait for the moans!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 08:10 | Link to Comment velobabe
velobabe's picture

chindit i swear you just describe a sex act with a virgin of some kind.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 08:43 | Link to Comment chindit13
chindit13's picture

velo, I see you've been studying your Latin-esque body parts, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 09:33 | Link to Comment Husk-Erzulie
Husk-Erzulie's picture

I love it when a hedger gets all saucy. LMAO :-)

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 09:35 | Link to Comment Husk-Erzulie
Husk-Erzulie's picture

Can't wait to see the talking heads breathlessly declaiming as US Marines storm Kaddafis Labia Majora.... (can't stop laughing, the damn cat is looking at me funny :-)

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:17 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
Aristarchan's picture

I would be very surprised if the US becomes actively involved in a no-fly-zone. In order to risk it's pilots and $30 million aircraft, it would first want to identify and take out SAM and anti-aircraft sites on the ground. This would mean dead Libyans at US hands. Second, although  the US can maintain a three-theatre war if naval resources can deal with the third (Libya), I do not think they want to be seen as invading another oil producing country. In the end, I think the US would prefer an Arab instituted no-fly-zone. This would give them the political cover to have been involved - but not as an invader. Moving resources into the Med off the Libyan coast sends a message to Iran that the US is willing to commit military resources and political capital to the game, and provides a political "in" to whoever ends up running the show in Libya, as well as to those Arab countries who might become involved in a no-fly-zone.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:23 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
Aristarchan's picture

I should also mention that a US instituted no-fly-zone would not solve the Mercenary issue. It is my understanding that the Libyan Gov is flying foreign fighters in on commercial aircraft...the US Military will never fire on them...remember that Iranian commercial aircraft over the Persian Gulf, and the Vincennes. All the commentors on Twitter who are calling for the US to set up a no-fly-zone and therefore stop the mercenaries from coming in, are naive.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 04:18 | Link to Comment RichardP
RichardP's picture

And for this reason, a no-fly program would no doubt turn back all civilian aircraft attempting to enter Libyan air space.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:28 | Link to Comment benb
benb's picture

Time for the syndicate to take more oil out of production. Next the MSM will be reporting Kadafi is roasting children alive and feasting upon them. “Puppet Obama” must send the troops and the death planes in and butcher the monsters to save the children. All for humanitarian reasons… what a crock. After Libya its Saudi Time as soon as perhaps this month. This is one way to create Artificial Scarcity. Most Americans have been turned into dumbed down imbeciles. The Pizza places and Liquor stores report the highest sales are not during the play-offs or the Super Bowl but when the US Clone Army attacks some second rate power. Disgusting.

 

 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 03:20 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
StychoKiller's picture

Cue Janet Reno falling on her sword (again!)

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:34 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
A Nanny Moose's picture

It's all fun and games, till someone sets their oil on fire.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 02:42 | Link to Comment robertocarlos
robertocarlos's picture

He seemed sane this morning.

  

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 06:12 | Link to Comment sushi
sushi's picture

Are you referring to K_Daffy or Obummer?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 03:49 | Link to Comment robertocarlos
robertocarlos's picture

Gaddafi insinuated this morning that if Americans set foot on Libyan soil then all hell would break lose in NA and Europe. If he did Lockerbie then he can do others.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 03:23 | Link to Comment Quantum Nucleonics
Quantum Nucleonics's picture

I gotta defend Gates on this one, if you look at his whole comment, he was trying to discourage talk of the no fly zone by pointing out it would require bombing Libya's air defenses.  The Obama administration is pretty clearly signaling for domestic consumption they want nothing to do with any military options, while they send some navy ships for psychological effect.  And in any event, one aircraft carrier is not adequate to enforce a no fly zone for any extended period.  You'd need Europe on board with lots of NATO assets.

I'll bet anybody's pile of gold that there will be no "no fly zone" nor will there be any boots on the ground.  The most you'll see is intel shared with the rebels, and maybe some covert deliveries of military equipment.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 05:38 | Link to Comment uhb
uhb's picture

depends on how many dead will pile up, you may well see the US with maybe UK,Dutch, even germans going in... but before we leave our armchairs, western civ's need to see LOTS of blood.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 04:40 | Link to Comment Sizzurp
Sizzurp's picture

We will know it's really bad when Obama borrows Palin's line,  "Drill baby Drill"

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 07:33 | Link to Comment Ted K
Ted K's picture

Does my best Beavis imitation:

"Fire!! Fire!! Fire!! hehe hmmhmm Fire!! Yeah! Fire!! Fire!! hehe hmmhmm"

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 09:57 | Link to Comment pagan
pagan's picture

" "Yet to those who argue that the US military is a well-oiled machine"

The US military is a very well oiled machine. What is the Yanks most valuable asset? It is of course their military force. Them stoopid a-holes do anything orderd and they are very well funded dispate economical problems for joe six pack in Arkanso.

So what's the problem here? Obama have to do some arm-twisting on some third- world dictator to welcome Ghaddafi with his loot or else he will create seroius problems when it comes to flow of oil to Italy. 


Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!