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Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:16 | 1351466 GeneMarchbanks
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Stealth QE that's what happens. Default is un thinkable. Maybe it's already started.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:23 | 1351481 Missiondweller
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Stealth QE?

Please explain further.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:27 | 1351522 GeneMarchbanks
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Pay attention around 1:54. Again, this, if done would be "transitory" but still...


Wed, 06/08/2011 - 16:14 | 1352233 Missiondweller
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I see. Thanks!

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:23 | 1351482 NotApplicable
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Meanwhile they will use the debt ceiling battle in an effort to denigrate the Tea Party reps, setting the stage for the next election.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:20 | 1351486 collegepunk
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nah, I don't think stealth will start right away. maybe in 6 months from now.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 15:10 | 1351943 SheepDog-One
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Default may be unthinkable, but soon it will also be undeniable. 

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 15:40 | 1352093 GeneMarchbanks
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That doesn't seem all that far fetched. I want to see what Tyler thinks of this. So the vid of John Brynjolfsson being asked what if the Fed raises capital requirements, which means they(the banks) would have to issue shares then use the money to buy treasuries. So what would be the effects/affects of this assuming the banks could raise money by simply issuing more shares? You could really call it an extension of QE?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:20 | 1351470 RobotTrader
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Wow, 325% oversubscribed.

The thirst for paper has never been greater.

Uncle Gorilla must be high fiving, realizing that trillions upon trillions of ever expanding deficits can be financed with ease.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:36 | 1351552 Internet Tough Guy
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Yes, this is an example of a free market and real demand. lulz. Silly Momo.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:36 | 1351555 Urban Redneck
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It's Meaningless- the thirst for free paper which can be flipped back for a guaranteed profit in a couple weeks is a measure of nothing but greed, and the stupidity of those willing to compete with bidders who have the guaranteed profit on the trade, regardless of pricing/rate.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 15:10 | 1351948 SheepDog-One
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A lot can happen in a couple weeks to those who are sure theyre all profitable.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:45 | 1351582 HelluvaEngineer
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Ohnoes.  Macke put down the straw for a minute and realized the Fed (and momo lovers like you) are fux0red.  A sign the party is over?


Wed, 06/08/2011 - 14:54 | 1351871 SheepDog-One
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Suddenly MomoFader no longer loves retail names and banking stocks, flipped right into a bond dork. Wow thats new!

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 15:24 | 1352031 Pancho Villa
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With the debt ceiling reached, the Treasury is just recycling existing debt. So the amount of debt for sale is less than it was before the ceiling was reached.

When the debt ceiling is raised, the Treasury will need to issue a lot of new debt in order to refill the various retirement funds that it is not funding at the moment. So there should be a surge in Treasury sales later this year. I wonder how long this refunding will require. If the period is short enough, the interest rate jump might be tradeable.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:20 | 1351473 camaro68ss
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AMERICA, FUCK YA, doing whatever america can do, AMERICA, FUCK YA!

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:27 | 1351509 topcallingtroll
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We always win somehow!

We must be god's true chosen people.

How else to explain it? Only america gets a free lunch.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:42 | 1351560 etrader
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"Financial repression includes directed lending to government by captive domestic audiences(such as pension funds), explicit or implicit caps on interest rates, regulation of cross-border capital movements, and (generally) a tighter connection between government and banks."

From: The Liquidation of Government Debt
Carmen M. Reinhart and M. Belen Sbrancia
NBER Working Paper No. 16893
March 2011
JEL No. E31,E4,E6,F3,F4,H6,N10

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 14:36 | 1351787 topcallingtroll
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social security...captive forced lending

regulation of cross border capital and labor movements...check

interest rate caps...thanks for nothing Bernanke.

cozy government and banks....

Well I guess the USA is four for four.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:21 | 1351475 slow_roast
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Market is hot; when DEFLATION is ON Treasuries are a great investment!  Drink up bitchez!

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:18 | 1351476 Missiondweller
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Rising fear?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:30 | 1351520 slow_roast
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Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:20 | 1351484 RobotTrader
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All I can say is that every G-8 central banker will be adopting the Fed model of financing deficits and controlling inflation.

It has been a miracle, financing trillions every year at 3% or less, and inflation stamped out within 30 days by simply uttering some hawkish words, announcing margin hikes, and selling stocks down to get people out of "Things" and back into "Paper".

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:25 | 1351500 plocequ1
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All in a days work for those interns and their Bloomberg machines

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:27 | 1351526 topcallingtroll
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We are the least ugly girl in the beauty contest.

No one else has the world's respect and confidence to jawbone markets but the usa.

Admit it, usa haters.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:34 | 1351536 plocequ1
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I have nothing to say. Im just happy to be here today... Thurman Munson

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:36 | 1351558 MrButtoMcFarty
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Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:38 | 1351565 Internet Tough Guy
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We need better trolls.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 14:33 | 1351774 topcallingtroll
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dammit...give me a break.  I'm doing the best I can

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 17:30 | 1352547 Saxxon
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Yes Troll but that's what they call a wasting asset.  The parasites that have hijacked the U.S. are burning our good will, fast.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 15:08 | 1351925 SheepDog-One
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'Its been a miracle'...well as long as you can ignore the fact that its a proven total failure....YEA I guess you can call it a miracle!

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 14:55 | 1351878 SheepDog-One
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MomoFader jumps from retail and bank stocks into a dorky bond geek? Gee, what will it be tomorrow?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 18:12 | 1352677 Devore
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Yes, because every G-8 central banker has access to a reserve currency printing press.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:21 | 1351497 topcallingtroll
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What a stealth bull market this has been!

Does anyone have the courage to ride the ten year up to a 2.1 percent yield? A 28 percent return in two years? Did i calculate that right?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 15:12 | 1351960 SheepDog-One
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But its only about the flip-back to Sack in 2 weeks.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:22 | 1351498 Amish Hacker
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Got  an infinite supply of dodgy bonds to sell, priced in a bogus currency? No problem, crush the euro and trash the equity markets, then get out of the way of the stampede into USTs.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:40 | 1351559 topcallingtroll
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The europeans need no help crushing confidence and projecting an image of amateurish unstable monetary policy.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:33 | 1351544 Hedgetard55
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TBTF's getting nicked today.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:45 | 1351561 Cdad
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As for next month, when the US is on the verge of a full blown default, it is unclear what happens.

Indeed, some things that will be happening then are unclear now, but others are very clear.  I assure you, the BlowHorn [CNBC] will launch an all out information campaign centered on the new Lulu Lemon line of leotards for self-absorbed modern American vanity queens, while counting the number of days left in the Christmas shopping season and announcing upside guidance for sales of lace trimmed braziers.  It is also entirely possible that, by then, folks will figure out that burritos are not "health food."

Also, criminal syndicate Wall Street bankers will be liquidating all things not nailed down, trading well outside of the bid/ask spread via magic computers in an exercise designed to increase market integrity and confidence, while simultaneously grabbing every creation unit that pops out of the VXX creation units machine, claiming that a VIX of 35 indicates "relative" and "historical" calm [because it is not at 70 via trading suppression schemes], a conversation that will be lead by P. Najarian of the Nanosecond Money crew who will be telling folks not to miss the incredible "buying opportunity."

During this time, the average number of resumes circulated by Average Joe will reach a number not seen since the inception of statistical tracking, this while the value of his home sags as quickly as the price per share of criminal syndicate zombie banks, which will be concurent with criminal syndicate Wall Street bankers annoucnements of positive trends in their "channel checks."

And in the end, the bond market will likely implode.

So...while the future is certainly foggy at this moment in time, some things will be very predictable.  I just hope that Mary Shapiro of the SEC will have wrapped up her year long meetings with the likes of J. Dimon and L. Blankfien by then, just in time to police the market so that bad things don't happen.

You know, other than that....I agree.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 15:01 | 1351889 SheepDog-One
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Hey I just listen to MomoFader, who today dumped his assless jeans and lace bra and banking stocks and is suddenly a dorky bond geek!

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 15:22 | 1352019 Cdad
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Funny...Robo NEVER responds to me when I engage him.  It is interesting that Robo is now just a bond guy.

Anyway, any minute now I'm sure the folks over at the BlowHorn [CNBC] are going to warn viewers that all of the inflows are going straight into the fixed income market...because they always mention when money is heading out of fixed income so as to alert viewers that fund flows into stocks is at hand.  Any minute now the BlowHorn is going to affirm Robo so that folks don't get caught in the Ponzi equity market...because they care about the people.  Especially Cramer.  He is the protector of the people and he would never direct them to buy pumped up and soon to be a lot cheaper stocks when the signal about where money is now flowing is clear.  The people need the BlowHorn to be helpful, which I'm sure it will be.  I'm sure the BlowHorn is going to warn people any minute now.  Holding my breath...

Oh, and I'm sure COMCAST has its action plan ready...its plan to finally commence "Operation Integrity Restoration" by finally allowing its employees to act like journalists and not like marionettes whose strings are held by criminal syndicate Wall Street bankers.

Robo...a bond geek.  That is a very odd thing, brother Dog.  But it is a very good thing for Robo that he is no longer in the assless jeans trade...because that trade is VERY OVER.




Wed, 06/08/2011 - 15:27 | 1352047 SokPOTUS
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"As for next month, when the US is on the verge of a full blown default, it is *nu*clear what happens."


  - There...fixed it for ya...

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:39 | 1351572 kito
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what happens? nothing. bonds continue to maintain strength. 

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 14:05 | 1351666 kito
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poor junkers, they just cant bear the thought of a drama-less summer.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 14:29 | 1351769 topcallingtroll
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There is plenty of drama in europe if one finds the united states too boring!

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 15:04 | 1351915 SheepDog-One
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Well until next month, when the free crack party runs dry. Then what?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:52 | 1351603 Bam_Man
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Hey Mr. Gross, how's that short US Treasuries trade working out?

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:56 | 1351621 ZeroPower
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Haha. Remember, its only synthetic, so according to him its not a real short. Might as well be considered a long, in which case, he's UP!

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 13:56 | 1351634 Cdad
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With that kind of intellectual prowess and counterintuitive thinking, you should immediately apply for a job with the criminal syndicate Wall Street banking industry.  I hear they need new leadership.

Wed, 06/08/2011 - 14:39 | 1351818 Boston
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I just sold some today (will buy back in, on a pullback) to........Bill Gross.

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