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US To Purchase Oil From Libyan Rebels, Thereby Funding "Flickers" Of Al Qaeda

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Following recent news that the supremely organized Libyan rebels have established their own central bank and oil company (does anyone recall when rebels merely rebelled instead of immediately setting up an oil export infrastructure and a fiat counterfeiting authority... those were the days), we now learn that this impressively "impromptu" development may have actually been intended all along. From Reuters: "The United States on Monday gave a green light to sales of Libyan crude oil from rebel-held territory, giving a potential boost to forces battling Muammar Gaddafi. A U.S. Treasury Department official said Libyan
rebels would not be subject to U.S. sanctions if they avoid entities
linked to Gaddafi's regime, which would allow them to sell oil under
their control.
" And confirming just hos hypocritical any international embargo attempts are, here is the Un confirming that when it comes to determining international priorities, the only word that matters is the one that did not figure once in Obama's Libya speech yesterday: "There is no U.N. embargo on Libyan oil," a U.N.
Security Council diplomat told Reuters on condition of anonymity. "The
rebels can sell oil. But they can't do it through the Libyan National
Oil Corporation."" And the kicker: according to the US NATO leader among those profiting from this latest move of US desperation is none other than Al Qaeda.

From Reuters:

The rebels, who retook a number of oil fields and terminals in eastern Libya over the weekend and were advancing west toward Gaddafi's hometown of Sirte, must first establish clear lines of control and payment systems that do not involve Libya's National Oil Corp, its central bank nor any other government entity, the official said.

No special permission would be needed from the Security Council's Libya sanctions committee, which oversees compliance with the sanctions, for the rebels to sell oil, envoys said.

The Treasury on February 25 banned U.S. transactions with Libya's state oil producer, the central bank and other state entities in an effort to cut off revenues to Gaddafi's regime, in line with sanctions imposed by the U.N. and European Union.

With the backing of Western air strikes, Libyan rebels have retaken the main oil terminal cities in eastern Libya, including Es Sider, Ras Lanuf, Brega, Zueitina and Tobruk.

A senior Libyan rebel official said on Monday that rebels were in "active discussions" to have sanctions lifted on sales of oil from east Libyan fields.

Ali Tarhouni, who is in charge of the rebels' economic, financial and oil matters in Benghazi said the fields were capable of pumping 100,000 to 130,000 barrels per day of crude, and most of this would be exported because of low refining capacity in eastern Libya. Before the crisis began, Libya was producing about 1.6 million barrels per day.

"We hope they will be lifted for the liberated areas as quickly as possible," Tarhouni said of the sanctions. "Not with everybody, but with some countries."

While we will not comment on the apparent hypocrisy of this latest development by the light crude starved US administration (sorry Saudi Arabia, nobody buys your lies about excess capacity anymore - proof here), what we will comment on is that the next time Gaddafi's forces retake any and all oil fields currently in rebel hands, and pumping on behalf of the US, they will likely not receive a very friendly treatment. Especially since it now appears that K-Daf was actually spot on when he argued that Al Qaeda is reinforcing the rebels:

There is a good chance NATO pressure will encourage Libyan tyrant Moammar Gadhafi to leave power, the U.S. NATO commander told Congress Tuesday, but the opposition that could come in the Libyan leader's wake has "flickers" of al Qaeda.

While there is a wide range of possible outcomes in Libya, running from a static stalemate to Gadhafi cracking, there is a "more than reasonable" chance of Gadhafi leaving power, Adm. James Stavridis said before the Senate Armed Services Committee,

But potential "flickers" of al Qaeda and Hezbollah elements have been seen in intelligence regarding the Libyan opposition, which is poised to take power if Gadhafi leaves, Stavridis said. However, he added there is no evidence of a significant presence of al Qaeda or other terrorist groups. Stavridis is also the commander of U.S. European Command.

"The intelligence that I'm receiving at this point makes me feel that the leadership that I'm seeing are responsible men and women who are struggling against Col. Gadhafi," Stavridis added.

There is probably "a sprinkling of extremists to perhaps include al
Qaeda" in Libya among the rebels, "but no one should think the
opposition is being led by al Qaeda or one of its affiliates," the
official said. Al Qaeda has had a presence in North Africa for years. It
"wouldn't be surprising if small numbers -- a handful"-- of extremists
or al Qaeda are in Libya.

Thus in one easy step, the administration appears to have lost all its prior animosity toward Al Qaeda (and after all September 11 was so long ago...), and is now bypassing international embargoes to deal directly with them.

What next: we get confirmation that Al Qaeda is also providing crystal meth to Libya's rebels?


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Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:21 | 1114454 tekhneek
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Shocker, bitchez.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:31 | 1114506 redpill
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Afghanistan 1979 all over again


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:55 | 1114606 Dr. Porkchop
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Just wait until this new rebel government becomes the biggest purchaser of Treasuries, next to the Fed!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:10 | 1114671 SilverIsKing
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What are they getting per gallon for Premium Unleaded?  It's $3.959 near me and I could use a break.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:34 | 1114953 Pseudo Anonym
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It's $3.959 near me and I could use a break.

move to Canada/Ontario where it is US$4.80/gal.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 20:45 | 1115145 Dr. Porkchop
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I live there!


...but I beat the system by purchasing it cheaper by the litre for about $1.24


/sarc tag for the humor impaired.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:29 | 1116272 tonyw
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Move to London where it's GBP1.35 x 1.61 (exchange rate) x 3.785 (litres to US gallons) = $8.23


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:51 | 1114809 Manthong
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“The earliest plan has the president arriving in Dublin for several events and then flying by helicopter to Moneygall, the ancestral home  of his sixth great grandfather Falmouth Kearney…”

Since O’Bama is going to be on that side of the world visiting his ancestral home, he might as well swing Air Force One over to Libya and drop a few wheelbarrows of 400 oz. gold bars off to Al Qaeda, err, I mean the Muslim Brotherhood, no wait… I mean the rebels in payment for the oil.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 23:54 | 1115769 Tail Dogging The Wag
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Spot on, mate!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:22 | 1114907 Rahm
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Welcome back Carter, Bitches!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:32 | 1114941 Rodent Freikorps
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RAS LANOUF, Libya – Moammar Gadhafi's forces hammered rebels with tanks and rockets, turning their rapid advance into a panicked retreat in an hourslong battle Tuesday. The fighting underscored the dilemma facing the U.S. and its allies in Libya: Rebels may be unable to oust Gadhafi militarily unless already contentious international airstrikes go even further in taking out his forces.

Opposition fighters pleaded for strikes as they fled the hamlet of Bin Jawwad, where artillery shells crashed thunderously, raising plumes of smoke. No such strikes were launched during the fighting, and some rebels shouted, "Sarkozy, where are you?" — a reference to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, one of the strongest supporters of using air power against Gadhafi.


Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:34 | 1116278 tonyw
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The rebels are totally unorganised, they stream westwards using up precious fuel then as soon as Gadhafi's forces attack them they run back. They have no concept about planning an operation and are defeated by simply outflanking them.

What happened to all the army guys who defected?

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:08 | 1116336 SWRichmond
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Afghanistan 1979 all over again

Does anyone still believe this is unintentional?  Coming across the bottom of Bloomberg TV: "Obama does not rule out arming Libyan rebels."  Welcome to the new war.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:23 | 1114456 tekhneek
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4 in the stink, 1 in the pink. The Obama 5000.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:25 | 1114477 jkruffin
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ROFLMAO!!!  Post of the day!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:55 | 1114602 DoChenRollingBearing
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Wuuuuu, very good!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:23 | 1114467 Tense INDIAN
Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:25 | 1114475 jkruffin
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Ok, be honest, who didn't actually know this was all about "OIL" again?


Who believed Oshama?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:35 | 1114518 Raynja
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He said we are protecting 'our interests' about 41 times and I'm pretty sure they don't export porn or coke

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 22:54 | 1115534 tekhneek
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Hey, you leave porn and coke out of this.

...besides, last time I checked lubes handy to have when you're "consuming" either (both) of those things.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 22:14 | 1115370 Alienated Serf
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Look, as long as we can rescue that poor terrorist that BP got released from Scotland, it is all worth it.  We can't have people suffereing under quadaffi.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 02:19 | 1116067 AnAnonymous
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Ok, be honest, who didn't actually know this was all about "OIL" again?



Many, many others. All the crowd who think that until the gas pump price has not changed for them, it is not about oil. Duplicity is high in the US, and people will stick to their fallacies because they choose to. For them, it will never be about oil. And this piece of news is not enough to corner them in.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:26 | 1114478 John Law Lives
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This would motivate Gaddafi to destroy the oil infrastructure rather than watching rebels make money.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:37 | 1114526 Mike2756
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That would motivate the allies to eliminate Gaddafi! He'll take the easy way out and leave the country.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 23:39 | 1115705 dark pools of soros
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why?  he's gonna die soon - why not go out full bonkers?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:28 | 1114480 cossack55
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And how many people with only 1/2 brain did not know this was happening since day one? Research ICG, CFR, Brookings Institute.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:29 | 1114484 Mongo
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This would give Al Quaida the opportunity to fund their own airline business... one-way trips to selected building in Europe and the US...

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:34 | 1114519 duckduckMOOSE
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LOL! 72 Virgins Airlines.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 21:52 | 1115297 TBT or not TBT
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Come, on, I'm sure most of these rebels are just moderate evildoers, not radical ones.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:29 | 1114487 Sudden Debt
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WE'LL LIBERATE IRAN!! lots of oil over there to.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:19 | 1114899 dbTX
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let's liberate ourselves from this yo yo in the WH

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:30 | 1114500 Stuck on Zero
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And no doubt they only accept dollars in payment for crude.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:37 | 1114537 Raynja
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pretty sure they are trading oil for humvees and ak47s

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:43 | 1114560 tekhneek
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eh, prolly mosin nagant's. straight through concrete/armor and about 4:1 ratio w/ AK-47's. Oh yeah. LOL, and NATO makes the ammo.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:32 | 1114503 alien-IQ
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I guess this will help cut the US deficit by reducing the amount of money the CIA has to pump into Al-Qaeda...after all...a bogeyman ain't cheap to manufacture let alone sustain.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 21:43 | 1114939 i-dog
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+1  LOL

However, the CIA doesn't need to use taxpayer funds ... too traceable! ... they pay Al-Qaeda from the profits of drug trafficking out of Afghanistan and Colombia.

On the other hand, the US military presence to protect the drug trafficking costs the taxpayer a motza!

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 05:57 | 1116223 The Rock
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Iran-Contra bitchez!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:30 | 1114504 Bobbyrib
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I see, the Patriot Act only applies to the public, not the government. Fund al Qaeda on!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 23:42 | 1115718 dark pools of soros
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can I put my 401k in Al Q?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:33 | 1114505 midget
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Support the camel jockeys

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:31 | 1114507 Shameful
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See now the US will have an excuse to forever stay in Libya.

"We know there is Al Quaeda in Libya! They are extremely well trained, armed, and funded. We would know we armed, trained, and funded them...but we have to occupy Libya till they have democracy..or no more light sweet. Whichever happens first."

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:33 | 1114513 Mike2756
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All wars end, not necessarily on a good note, look at how many Nazis skated.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:37 | 1114533 alien-IQ
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Only wars against armies end...a war against an idea is forever...hence the "war on terror".

If you can brand an idea as being the enemy...go long body bags and detention centers and short the bill of's a winning trade.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:11 | 1114666 TBT or not TBT
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The british navy declared war on "slavery", unilaterally, and kept it up until it was pretty well elliminated on the seas they controlled.     Ditto with "piracy" back when we used to just kill them and used to be OK with merchant ships and pleasure craft being armed.    So there are two bad phenomena that go away when you wage war on them.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:19 | 1114705 alien-IQ
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are you intentionally being obtuse? or do you really not see a difference between slavery, piracy and "terrorism"?

and also...piracy ended? really? are you sure about that? think...

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 22:02 | 1115330 TBT or not TBT
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Indeed, piracy has restarted, because we no longer handle it the way we used to..i.e. killing them, and having arms on private vessels.   It is a piece of cake for crew of a freighter to ward off small pirate boats with small arms, nevermind, oh, a 50 cal deck gun, even a semi-automatic one.   Smaller private craft would have a harder time, but then smaller craft have less booty on them, and why in Allah's name would pirates want to be shot at for so little potential upside?    An armed society is polite society, and so is a sea filled with armed merchant marine and private craft.    Thing is, you can't dock in most of the world, as a private vessel while so equipped.   So we have piracy.    Pirates and governments have arms, but not their victims, and we get the expected results.

As to rumours of my obtusity, some of them are true, but not this one.   Slavery and piracy are phenomena, methods...just as  terrorism is, and there is a long history of largely wiping such phenomena out.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:34 | 1114515 macholatte
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Peel back all the humanitarian/human rights bullshit and get down to brass tacks.... FOLLOW THE MONEY!

Who are the Rebels?

Where did they get their toyz?

Who has been financing them?

How long have they been active?

Why didn't Libyan intelligence know about them?

Who are the puppet masters?


It's not just about oil. The oil is a means to acquire money to do other things, like create another Islamic state with the assistance of our Communist Muslim President and all his minions and handlers.

I'm not surprised. I'm disgusted.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:37 | 1114527 Bobbyrib
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I hope you're kidding.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:51 | 1114583 macholatte
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I'm not kidding. You, anybody, answer those questions. I can't.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:00 | 1114617 Bobbyrib
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I was referring to the Muslim part.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 20:14 | 1115068 Stuck on Zero
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The rebels include a large number of disaffected former Lybian military.  The arms came from captured weapons depots.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 22:16 | 1115380 TBT or not TBT
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Obama is sympathetic to anti-colonialist, anti-western movements.    This is revealed in Obama's books, including Dreams From My Father.   Obama's father, to whose dreams he dedicated himself, was an anti-colonialist lefty pathetic Kenyan, who abandoned Obama and his mom.   Obama's lefty mother nevertheless built up Barack's father as a heroic figure.    Dinesh D'Sousa's thesis on the matter, The Roots of Obama's Rage, provides a falsifiable theory permitting anyone to read Obama's motivations, and so far, very unfortunately, this theory fits.   As to Obama's religion, naturally he's neither Muslim nor Christian.    If he has a religion, he is its God or its prophet.   The twenty years he did in anti-colonialist anti-western "christian" nutbag Jeremiah Wright's church he did for political reasons.    He had to brand himself as a "black" politician, despite his upbringing among elites at prep schools and fine universities, and despite his total lack of shared experience or heritage with american blacks descended from forcibly imported slaves so very long ago.   That took a lot of work, but the guy is a sociopath to that point, and the anti-american message of Wright's church fit his M.O. to a T. 

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 02:33 | 1116071 AnAnonymous
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Obama is sympathetic to anti-colonialist, anti-western movements. 


And the rebels, the endeavour allowing them to sell a national resource (justification for freezing the libyan tyrant's so called assets, actually the country's assets) is a fine example of anti-colonialism, anti-western attitude. And that is why Obama supports the rebels.


Fantasy world...

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:29 | 1116776 TBT or not TBT
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The thing is Gaddafi ceased being a rabid anti-western pan african over the last several years, starting with his sudden revelation of his nuclear weapons program, like five minutes after we ended Saddam's regime.   They had a secret nuclear weapons development program back then that the UN and CIA and on and on did not know about, and they gave it up enthusiastically to the UN body that is supposed to prevent proliferation.   Gaddafi also apologized for Lockerbie and the German nightclub bombing thing, compensated victims and their families, and has been warming up to western countries in a big way.   Witness the whole setting up the tent visit to Paris, and the sweet deals BP was able to buy, with just a little amnesty purchase for the supposedly dying from cancer Lockerbie bomber.   

So, the rebels now are over throwing a north african dictator who is too copacetic with the west, no longer a thorn in the side of western hegemony and eviiiil zionsists.   Obama thinks that's great, because he has a giant chip on his shoulder towards colonialism of any sort.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 21:22 | 1119798 i-dog
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"The thing is Gaddafi ceased being a rabid anti-western pan african over the last several years, starting with his sudden revelation of his nuclear weapons program, like five minutes after we ended Saddam's regime. "

That's just MSM propaganda nonsense ... old news!

More recently, Ghaddafi has turned to Russia, China, India and Brazil ... including oil and other deals with China (30,000+ Chinese nationals working in Libya!) which made Europe nervous about their oil supplies; and development deals with Russia, including a planned $3 billion coastal railway to Benghazi (which is why the CIA's pet "Al Qaeda" needed to be routed out of the Benghazi area).

Ghaddafi's other "sins" included having a central bank independent of the IMF.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:58 | 1114848 Abitdodgie
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Oil is just a bonus , what it is really about is issuing new currency for Libya, at interest just like they did in Iraq He who controls the money supply, BlaBlaBla !

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:59 | 1115017 i-dog
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"Who are the Rebels?

Where did they get their toyz?

Who has been financing them?

How long have they been active?

Why didn't Libyan intelligence know about them?

Who are the puppet masters?"

The US military has known for quite some time that the northeast corner of Libya around Benghazi is a hotbed of "Al Qa'ida" terrorist operations (see this research report from the US Military Academy, 4 years ago!

Ghadhaffi also knew it and was trying to rout them out of his country ... but, just as he was about to succeed, the US and UK (using Sarkozy as chief attack dog) stepped in to rescue them under the guise of "protecting civilians". It's a not-very-funny joke that the US is calling it a "civil war" or "humanitarian mission" ... they have been both arming and "looking for" Al Qaeda since the beginning.

Does that [indirectly] answer your questions?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 20:52 | 1115155 macholatte
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That's a good beginning.

Perhaps you could phone Wolf Blitzer and get him a heads up.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 21:04 | 1115181 macholatte
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Wed, 03/30/2011 - 02:44 | 1116085 AnAnonymous
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Incredible. Simply incredible.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:35 | 1114516 DNB-sore
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it takes some to get some

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:34 | 1114520 Waterfallsparkles
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So, who is the Antichrist?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:10 | 1114643 AN0NYM0US
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not the antichirst but this is a current Iranian Prop film about end times from an Iranian perspective



Iran Leaders: The Coming is Upon Us – by Reza Kahlili

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:36 | 1114524 Mad Max
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We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:39 | 1114538 Shameful
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At least in 1984 they were not simultaneously at war and allied with Eastasia. Orwell eat your heart out!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:35 | 1114531 AGuy
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This will likely provoke Ghaddi to attack Libyan oil infrastructure to block the rebels from raising cash to purchase military equipment.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:54 | 1114600 High Plains Drifter
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he probably already has that in mind and its already ready to go at a moment's notice. the reason why it has not been done yet is that he thought he could get by without doing it, but now.........they put him in the corner and he will come out swinging.....

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:41 | 1114776 Republican Lackey
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Sure he will. Right. Qaddaffi is no longer calling the shots.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:26 | 1114926 NidStyles
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Mind sharing your source?



Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:37 | 1114532 billwilson
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C'mon Tyler. Everytime an American fills up their SUV so they can go drive to the 7/11 to get a big gulp they are sending money to AQ (via Saudi).


Americans and oil. Unfucking believable. They seem to think it is just there for the taking at no cost, and will be forever.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:12 | 1114679 Mad Max
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The US has no monopoly on hypocrisy.

I always chuckle at europeans who sneer down their noses at our vehicles, and think nothing of taking 7000 mile holiday flights several times a year for fun.  The oil consumption balance may not be so one-sided as some think.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:39 | 1114539 DNB-sore
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it shows, crude is going up

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:38 | 1114544 trendybull459
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Its a business as usual,we should not worry about it,all rebels forces which acting on behalf USA is good,any one who acting on own or his citizens behalf-is bad.This is what USA claim day after day,its hard to see as robbering in day light get such an international robbery support,specifically when this libyan oil compleatly disconnected from Fixed on USA controlled future markets oil-all of the world will suffer(suffering) as result of previouse and current USA administration,for last 12years world became polarised and people on the brink of Revolution.Obama better to take care on California where over 1.7mln people starving without proper food-they getting stamps,vivat America-the power of the paper becoming to the end,the power of the military as result becomes obviouse

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:41 | 1114549 blindman
Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:38 | 1114768 velobabe
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it's not good, cupcakes.

who is going to protect the art, around the world? we have to establish plan "A" for the art and sculptures, all around the world. this needs to have a mission of it's own. i could maybe help, not real good at anything, but would like to implement a plan "A".

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:57 | 1114844 blindman
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Another bronze sculpture ‘The Hitchhicker’, situated near Monasterevin in Co Kildare, was stolen a few weeks prior to this.

I just hope that the bronze statues to commemorate the Famine of Ireland, situated on the Quays in Dublin, are not next on the thieves list.

How ironic that would be considering the economic problems in Ireland at the moment.





Tue, 03/29/2011 - 21:19 | 1115211 velobabe
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it's late, babe.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:42 | 1114555 JonTurk
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Al Qaeda is a joke.. you still naive enough to believe in this shit? Al Qaeda is US government (TPTB). US Government took the twin towers down to secure energy sources in ME and to invade Afghanistan to sit on the territory in between Russia and China..

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:10 | 1114664 Agent P
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I highly recommend you spend at least 5 seconds looking at a map of Eurasia.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:31 | 1114936 NidStyles
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I noticed that Iran was smack dab inbetween Iraq and Afghanistan. This was 10 years ago. They keep telling us that we are leaving Iraq, but we still have around 80K there.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:45 | 1114781 Republican Lackey
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Finally a sane man posting on zerohedge.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 20:54 | 1115161 SaulA
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Wow, aren't you a limp fuckstick.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:47 | 1114994 trendybull459
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i do not know what stupids put 5junk signes on tis message,but i absolutly agree on it,first what you should ask yourself:who is benefited from it?

But it was so obviouse and just shocking how stupid most people are to "eat" this propaganda,how idiot they and how owefull where we are now because their stupidity and Burger/Macdonald Barains is.

If Al Qaeda would receive at least 1% from all money stollen via Sept11 then we would see new arab Emirates emerge,its hard to imagine what money those involved in agreement made,unbelievable

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:48 | 1114997 trendybull459
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i do not know what stupids put 5junk signes on tis message,but i absolutly agree on it,first what you should ask yourself:who is benefited from it?

But it was so obviouse and just shocking how stupid most people are to "eat" this propaganda,how idiot they and how owefull where we are now because their stupidity and Burger/Macdonald Brains is.

If Al Qaeda would receive at least 1% from all money stollen via Sept11 then we would see new arab Emirates emerge,its hard to imagine what money those involved in agreement made,unbelievable

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:41 | 1114556 SilverRhino
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Fuck, we're the practically goddamned Nazi's in Romania on this one.  

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:48 | 1114778 Rodent Freikorps
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His campaign in North Africa earned Rommel the nickname "The Desert Fox." On 6 February 1941 Rommel was ordered to lead the Afrika Korps, sent to Italian Libya to help shore up the Italian forces which had been driven back during Operation Compass, launched by British Commonwealth forces under Major-General Richard O'Connor during December 1940.

History rhymes.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:45 | 1114564 Spalding_Smailes
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ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz ....Yawnnnnnnnn ......Um', what oh,.....

So anyone who thought the protest would change the status quo was a total moron. Same dance, different partner. 

Syria, Yemen, even the House of Saud would have new leadership that loves the thought of piled up greenbacks in said account ....

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:49 | 1114568 Highrev
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Hey, I finally came across some evidence of civilian massacres.

Unfortunately it’s not out of Libya. (What was it that the Prez said? America is different?)

Okay, those of you who haven’t already seen them a dozen times, be forewarned, the included videos can be very disturbing, especially for those who just want to believe.

We’ve got to start pulling our heads out.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:57 | 1114609 Spalding_Smailes
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Sorry the first video ( in B&W ) is taken after the scum bags planted a roadside bomb. In a war that's a no,no ..... not civilian massacres. They got what was coming .....



'Death Zone' How U.S. soldiers turned a night-time airstrike into a chilling “music video”



Also, if you would have video tape running during World War II, you would have seen millions of kids and woman killed. Germany carpet bombing everything in every surrounding  country ect .... Heck we even dropped a few atomic bombs on a few cities, but that would have NEVER happened if Japan did not attack the USA first !!! 


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:03 | 1114630 jomama
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i am genuinely dismayed that you have not heeded mine and many other's advice to go play in high speed traffic.  :(

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:08 | 1114657 Spalding_Smailes
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Oh well go watch glee re-runs again or have your old lady watch big fat looser, and tell her to stop eating french fries  .....


Oh ya, Japan also fucked with us in Guam, Gona, Midway, Guadalcanal, Burma, Soloman Islands, Philippines ect .... They had no clue we could drop the hammer. Lesson learned, just like Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:49 | 1114575 Racer
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"among those profiting from this latest move of US desperation is none other than Al Qaeda."

The US will do anything for oil, including illegal wars and now helping terrorists

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:50 | 1114579 Highrev
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What's more is that Al Qaeda was in need of a boost anyway.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:48 | 1114796 Republican Lackey
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You teabaggers are a hoot. Now Libya's rebels are al-qaeda? Is Tyler Durden really Sean Hannity?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:32 | 1114946 NidStyles
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How odd that even the leader's of the rebel forces admitted as such.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:51 | 1114584 AR15AU
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Why aren't the liberals going berzerk camping out in Chicago ditches with Cindy Sheehan, et al?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:51 | 1114588 High Plains Drifter
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they are paid off with welfare, foodstamps, ssi, and unemployment checks.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:52 | 1114592 AR15AU
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But BHO is conducting an oil war. That is supposedly a crime against humanity, and the only remedy is impeachment? I swear thats what I was told by my TV for 8 years.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:59 | 1114615 High Plains Drifter
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i was down at the store a while ago and people were lined up for several cars waiting to get their cars washed.  case in point. amerikans worry about dirt on their cars but they don't care, not really, about anything but themselves and their own little worlds. the most important thing to them is getting that car looking nice and shiny and say what, we are killing innocent people?  i don't know about that and my son is not in the army so i don't care....say what, japan is dying, the third largest economy in the world and nuclear radiation is getting worse and worse and they don't care. what is on dancing with the stars tonight? or when does soccer start for my children? 

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:02 | 1114635 AR15AU
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no its crazy...  take a look at the dining and entertainment scene and its still booming just like the olden days. americans are still not taking the coming crisis seriously, and are frittering away their last funbux. they have no clue. 

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:10 | 1114668 High Plains Drifter
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the squid has already taken sides in this conflict...

Western-backed Libyan rebels managed to liase with Goldman Sachs and form a bank? Smells like a City rat.

perhaps that was the problem all along, the colonel didn't want to play IMF...

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:06 | 1114644 Bobbyrib
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While I strongly oppose interfering with what is going on in Libya, to label Gaddafi's military "innocent" is just beyond silly.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:13 | 1114677 High Plains Drifter
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as an american i really don't give one good damn what goes on in libya. that is their business. end of story. if he is a creep, then he is their problem. but this activity is not about whether this man was a angel or not is it?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 23:13 | 1115592 bothsidesnow
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NWO - 33rd parallel kinetic action.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:49 | 1114585 rockraider3
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This is surreal.  For the last 10 years all we have heard out of the US government is that Al Qaeda are terrorists and that we had to hunt them down across the globe, including basically two wars and trillions of dollars. And now, while we're still actively pursuing them by the way, we are funneling money to them through oil purchases.  Wonderful.  And I'm sure we're probably going to end up giving them weapons, probably training too, so that they can defeat Ghadaffi.  Sounds like a great plan to me.  It's scary how corrupt and moronic Washington has gotten. 

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:52 | 1114591 High Plains Drifter
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yeh and watch as the amerikan soldiers go over there and fight and die and they will hear about this and read about it, and not one son of a bitch will say ,no , you know why? 


because its our job and we are doing this all for you..........yeh sure .......

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:59 | 1114616 jomama
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even more astounding is how fucking willingfully ignorant and complacent americans and global first world countries have become to it.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:51 | 1114804 Republican Lackey
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Has Foxnews propaganda taken over zerohedge? Just because the rebels are sunni doesn't mean they are al-qaeda.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:03 | 1114859 SilverFiend
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Here, read for yourself.  Al qaeda has pillaged military hardware including surface to air missiles.


Once again, take your left/right BS and shove it up your azz!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:51 | 1114586 High Plains Drifter
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if you are not with us, you are with the terrorist..........?

well sort of..........

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:57 | 1114596 Infinite QE
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Soros, Inc. takes a 1/3rd off the top for `commissions'

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:00 | 1114625 High Plains Drifter
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I read where Soros said he was going after faux news , like that really means anything. it doesn't . its called good cop and bad cop and both sides are controlled by the same people.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:53 | 1114599 Blano
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The US and al Qaeda on the same side.......whoda thunk???

Glad this latest operation was well thought out (rolls eyes).

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:56 | 1114601 Ying-Yang
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The rebels in Yemin have contracted with the EU to setup sperm banks for infertile eastern european mama-wanna-be's.

Gosh... how I love spur of the moment capitalism.

Boo Yah!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:57 | 1114610 jomama
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You can't make this shit up...

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:00 | 1114623 John McCloy
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Everyday I see something thats says to me "Now I have seen it all"

Well now I have.....until next week. Stranger than fiction.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:02 | 1114629 NotApplicable
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And just when I thought I'd seen it all, along comes a rebel central bank.

Libyan Rebel Theme Song (with apologies to John)


You say you want a Revolution.

Well, you know,

we all want to sell some oil.

You tell me that it's evolution.

Well, you know,

central banks can change the world!

But when you talk about Al Qaeda

Don't you know that you can count me out (in, out...)

Don't you know it's gonna be all right,

all right, all right.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:06 | 1114646 steveo
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Trade ideas for those who care

I suspect a big move within a day or two.  However the McClellan oscillator would ideally have a "small change", say less than 8 points in order to also "chime in" in support of a big move.   The obvious direction is down, Doctor is agnostic, but Euro says US market will go down.

Euro has a tasty little short zone coming up.

Doctor Copper is triangulating on 2 channels, one up one down, although it is "respecting" the down channel more.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:08 | 1114653 AC_Doctor
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The fucking CIA was busted giving Al Quaeda nuke plans and fissle materials.  What's a little oil greenback loving gonna hurt?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:18 | 1114695 High Plains Drifter
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yeh that thug that shot those two pakistani isi agents, in pakistan was doing that and this is why he shot those two guys, then he hides behind diplomatic immunity. who me, i am a member of the embassy staff.........

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:10 | 1114665 PulauHantu29
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Sarkozy pushing hard for Nobel Peace Prize----seeks to arm rebels.

So how much is this Iraq II costing us?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:11 | 1114667 John McCloy
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Now they can sell us oil AND buy treasuries. 

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:14 | 1114680 Rhone_Ranger
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They're not even trying to hide the shit anymore!


The fraud, lying and corruption are now in plain sight!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:14 | 1114681 roymunnson
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This just in ....Eastern Libya oil infrastructure is about to be bombed


This just in.... Haliburton has won the rights to rebuild soon to be bombed eastern Libya oil infrastructure

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:17 | 1114694 Spalding_Smailes
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I thought Flour had that bid locked up ...... WTF ?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:41 | 1114700 AN0NYM0US
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only viewable from Google Cache (conspiracy)



Profile: Al-Qaeda in North Africa

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:24 | 1114716 TapeReader
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How did we not see this coming!?!

The Libyan rebels are now rich with petrodollars!  They are the Petrolistas!

Huh?  The decision was made on March 19th.   Wasn't that the first day of the air strikes?

What is going on here?  I have formed a few companies in my life and from my experience it takes a little time to get all of one's ducks in a row.  These Libyans are fast.  Could it be that this was well thought out and that some of the due diligence and paperwork was in-flight prior to the UN's No-Fly Resolution?

Call me a cynic, call me a conspiracy nut, but this does not pass the sniff test.

Viva La Libya!  Viva La Petrol!  Viva La Petrolistas!

P.S - A couple of thoughts:
  1. Yeah!  We have new trading partners!
  2. Where and how can I sign up to be a Petrolista?
  3. William Casey & Ronald Reagan would be so proud of what we have engineered.  Hat's off to ya, fellas.
  4. "Meet the new boss.  Same as the old boss."  - Pete Townsend | The Who
More here:

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:53 | 1114821 Republican Lackey
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Pete Townsend is a woman living in a mans body. Just ask Pete.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:51 | 1114720 JR
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The story here is all about American Empire -- unlimited war anywhere and all the time -- financed by fiat money on debt serviced by the American taxpayer. 

So the first thing to recognize in support of the Empire, which the neocons do here, is to name the potential enemies of the Empire -- “terrorists” such as al-Qaeda and Hezbollah (not to forget Hamas, Syria and Iran). The Hannity/Limbaugh line finds every enemy of Israel in every freedom fighter movement.  It’s troubling to me that pro-war neocon Stratfor  (i.e. George Friedman) has become ZH’s primary go-to source on Libya.

Obviously, the NATO-U.S. puppet (same command and direction, just different hats)  is directed by those who control America’s currency.

NATO is a U.S. military-led and dominated alliance - 43% funded by the U.S., France and Britain.  But the real dominance of NATO’s power and direction comes with the far superior military hardware and expertise that the U.S. pushes forward - its war spending 44% larger than all NATO members combined.

Only the printing press owned by the Federal  Reserve cartel and operated for its benefit facilitates as many wars “as needed” for the money elites’ global goals.  

A troubling phrase in Obama’s speech last night came when he said America’s military might could be used not only for protection of the nation but for  “our interests” and “values.”   The private bankers who control the United States government have interests and values and they prove every day to be interests and values inconsistent with the hopes and dreams of the American people.

This newest war -- expensive, open-ended, with no-exit strategy -- is a perfect complement to all the other undeclared wars America has started since WWII.

The continuing saga of Empire reminds one of 1898 and the 21st Lancers Lieutenant Winston Churchill, on horseback, confronting North African Arabs running toward him with swords :  “I rode up to the individuals firing my pistol in their faces and killing several – three for certain – two doubtful – one very doubtful.”

And now, in the spirit of “From the Halls of Montezuma” come the Empire’s newest warriors, the United States Marine pilots flying at 15,000 feet out of reach of the Libyan air defenses that they have neutralized with high tech electronic equipment.  Earlier, B-2 stealth bombers flew 25-hour round trips from Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri to drop forty-five 2000-lb bombs from at least 6 miles above the “Shores of Tripoli”!!

With the carnage far below, it kinda gives new meaning to the phrase: Home of the Brave.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:22 | 1114901 Catullus
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Good post.

I'm not sure Stratfor is ZH's primary source for events.  I read Stratfor for years and I don't agree with the politics or some of the analysis, but they do reflect the neo-con analysis quite well.  It's important to read if no other reason than to understand how the neocons think.  Sort of why it's useful to read CFR and The Economist. 

Stratfor did call the Iraq War correctly in early 2003:  it was a war to establish a base of operations central within the Middle East from which to conduct other military exercises. 

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 00:09 | 1115811 JR
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Very good points.  And just as Friedman was an early-on cheerleader for the war in Iraq, he was early-on cheerleading for a war with Iran. According to Friedman…

“If Obama were to use foreign policy to enhance his political standing through decisive action (to win the 2012 presidential election), and achieve some positive results in relations with foreign governments, the one place he could do it would be Iran… Obama has avoided overt military action against Iran, so a confrontation with Iran would require a deliberate shift in the U.S. stance, which would require a justification... The most obvious justification would be to claim that Iran is about to construct a nuclear device. Whether or not this is true would be immaterial…

“Nor would the claim be a lie. Defining what it means to almost possess nuclear weapons is nearly a metaphysical discussion. It requires merely a shift in definitions and assumptions.”

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:28 | 1114731 luk427
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Bin Laden just went from most wanted to CEO. Our leaders are rotten to the core. As I have mentioned before I would love to see  Call and Put orders that were placed by insiders before all this shit went down.  

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:32 | 1114745 AldoHux_IV
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In addition to the peace prize, let's give Obama a nobel prize for economics.  He's solved our energy problems!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 23:03 | 1115566 palmereldritch
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All Hail Oilbomba

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:35 | 1114747 Fix It Again Timmy
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See me, steal me, pump me, sell me - Obummer, the great oil-ball wizzard...

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:37 | 1114765 Seasmoke
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this may be the MOST fucked up unbelievable, of all the fucked up, unbelievable stories in 2011.....REAL LIFE , who makes this shit up

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:56 | 1114828 Republican Lackey
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Tyler makes it up. He can't prove anything about what he just wrote.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:11 | 1114883 Catullus
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What can't be proven here?  It's a person commenting on an article written by Reuters. 

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:43 | 1114779 phat ho
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Well I for one feel relieved. Thought we might have to 'dust off' Ollie North to get a little action on the side going. /sarc. The irony is delicious with Al Queda in this perspective. Maybe now the truth about 9/11 will come out.

And hasn't history been chalked full of changing sides; like the French helping end the american revolution with the help of ships toward the end. (My history might be a li'l rusty so feel free to junk away). :I)

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:48 | 1114791 John McCloy
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Man names Gas Stations after Pres Obama. 

Patrons say they do not blame Pres. Obama for the gas prices because he is quote "doing everything he can" & " We need to get these electric cars rolling out"



Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:56 | 1114830 Miss Expectations
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In other news

First Image Ever Obtained from Mercury Orbit (March 29, 2011)

The MESSENGER team is currently looking over the newly returned data, which are still continuing to come down. Tomorrow, March 30, at 2 pm EDT, attend the NASA media telecon to view more images from MESSENGER's first look at Mercury from orbit.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:02 | 1114858 mynhair
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This is bullish.  Oil flows again, and

all your muslims are belong to us.




(ACORN gets contract to unionize AQ)

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:08 | 1114873 SilverFiend
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I        R


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:11 | 1114884 gall batter
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yes, and not zero hegemony

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:20 | 1114879 AN0NYM0US
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Arming the Enemy in Libya


Al Qaeda is also helping itself.  Idriss Deby Itno, president of Chad, has reported that the terrorist organization’s offshoot in North Africa, Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), has helped itself to surface-to-air missiles from a Libyan arsenal.  Speaking to African weekly Jeune Afrique, Deby Itno claimed he was “100 per cent sure” of his assertion.  ”The Islamists of al-Qaeda took advantage of the pillaging of arsenals in the rebel zone to acquire arms, including surface-to-air missiles, which were then smuggled into their sanctuaries in Tenere,” said Deby Itno. Tenere is part of the Sahara desert region stretching from northeast Niger to western Chad. “This is very serious. AQIM is becoming a genuine army, the best equipped in the region,” he added. And despite the fact that he and Muammar Gaddafi are enemies, Deby Itno backed the Libyan leader’s claim that al Qaeda helped to orchestrate the current uprising.  ”There is a partial truth in what he says,” he said. ”Up to what point? I don’t know. But I am certain that AQIM took an active part in the uprising.” He also characterized Western intervention there as a “hasty decision.”

update: when Stavridis was being questioned today in the hearing on Libya he suggested a response to the stolen weapons issue should be discussed in a closed hearing.



Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:26 | 1114924 Pseudo Anonym
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does anyone recall when rebels merely rebelled instead of immediately setting up an oil export infrastructure and a fiat counterfeiting authority...

surely gold swaps (for tungsten) go along with that, don't they?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:41 | 1114962 Teddy Turner
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The "rebels" now control 80% of the Libyan oil.  <sarc> Hmmm... What was this all about again? </sarc>  I think we all know.  Watch the state be split in two with heavy sanctions on soon to be Western Libya and a "fruitful democratic free utopia" develop in the east.

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