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US Steel Imports At Multi Year Lows

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With many pundits extolling the imminent inventory pick up and the ensuing exponential growth of US GDP, it probably makes sense to observe demand for primary raw materials for durable goods. Or, rather, the lack thereof. July US Steel imports were at the second lowest reading in over three years, at 0.9 million tonnes, well over 50% below the average monthly import total of 2.5 million tonnes. One would presume an inventory pick up would be preceded by a pick up in steel imports. Alas, the facts do not back up that assumption.

Source: Census Bureau




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Wed, 08/26/2009 - 21:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/26/2009 - 21:58 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/27/2009 - 00:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/27/2009 - 06:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/26/2009 - 21:14 | Link to Comment Bubby BankenStein
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Real things that are directly measurable are the guiding light for me.

The Official measures are over cooked propaganda tools.  Yes, The official numbers are used to justify market moves, but in reality are not good measures of reality.

Thanks for a reality check.

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 21:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/26/2009 - 21:40 | Link to Comment Bubby BankenStein
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The collapse of steel imports screams of big trouble for the remnants of US industry.

Like a fool, I would have thought the "Stimulus" would kick this up more.  Seems to demonstrate ineffectiveness.

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 00:04 | Link to Comment Icarus
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A lot of the stimulus hasn't been spent yet.

They are waiting for the Nov 2010 congressional elections.

Now if you can find stats for asphalt production - they might be up.  Filling potholes paves the way to recovery!

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 00:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/27/2009 - 01:52 | Link to Comment AndItsGone
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Tell us, man! You're among friends here.

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 14:44 | Link to Comment darkness (not verified)
Thu, 08/27/2009 - 07:37 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/26/2009 - 21:52 | Link to Comment 100PercentProle
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Just to play devil's advocate, what has domestic steel production been doing in the meantime?  Has that offset any of the import drop?

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 22:29 | Link to Comment cbxer55
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With all the layoffs the U.S. plants have done, are you kidding. If you go back and read Layoff Daily, you will see that such giants as Arceloral Mittal, Nucor and U.S. Steel have had massive layoffs and plant closures earlier this year.

 

Here in Oklahoma Girardeau Steel is closing its Sand Springs plant and laying off 300 people, sometime in September. Notices already went out.

 

No I do not think US plants are making up for the lack of imports. I used to work at Trinity Industries building railcars. We used to get up to 15 rail flatcars a week of plate steel for rolling tank cars,and that is just the Oklahoma City plant, which was small potatoes compared to Long View, TX. But late last year and early this year Trinity closed 13 of 15 plants in OK, MO and TX, and one large plant in Cartersville, GA. That alone contributed to a HUGE reduction in demand for steel. Trinity Industries just about does not exist anymore.

 

They also closed two wind turbine facilities, one in OK and another in MO. Where is all that new fangled energy production when companies like Trinity are closing their facilities. Another competitor to Trinity closed a wind turbine facility near Tulsa a few months ago. So much for "green" energy!

 

Nah, we are just royally phucked. Get used to it.

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 22:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/27/2009 - 10:34 | Link to Comment 100PercentProle
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Thanks.

 

We're SO BONED ...

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 22:28 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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Saw this last week, worth a full read for the details:

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idAFN2053545520090820?rpc=44

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 21:59 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/26/2009 - 22:03 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/26/2009 - 22:32 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Ha it's a TRAP. Everything is made with Invisibillium. It's the new building material for a brave new world. It's stronger than steel, lighter than alluminum, conducts electricity, creates electricity and infinitely malleable. But there's a downside. If you stop believing in it for a second it disappears and you get rained on road rash or fall out of the airplane.

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 22:34 | Link to Comment msorense
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Globally the Baltic Dry Index is down 45% from June.  Just another leading indicator pointing downhill.

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 22:44 | Link to Comment texpat
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Yeah, and with a good fraction of ships being scrapped in Indian breakers, there will be a bunch of Indian steel floating around.

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 22:47 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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And as everyone knows, collapsing demand always leads to inflation.

/sarcasm

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 23:49 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Ironically yes. Think of it as a physics kinetic energy problem. The price is the mass and the demand is the velocity. Prices go up during collapsing demand because you can't get around the overhead rules of producing.

 

 

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 00:20 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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So in your analogy price is static until we get a nuclear fission reaction...are you saying we need nuclear war for deflation to occur?! Doesn't seem very true to life.

Given that you're probably not saying that there are so many ways to argue here so I'll just pick a few quick ones.

First off, the easiest one: if you ever take a look at the supply and demand curves you will see that an increase in demand, that is a right (outward) shift in demand increased both quantity and price and vice versa for a contraction of demand, or a left (inside) shift.

Secondly: using the stock market analogy since we all love the stock market, less bids(demand) lead to lower prices.

Thirdly the costs of production you mention go down the less you produce due to less demand.

Fourthly, just take a look at any historical examples of diminishing or collapsing demand; prices go down.

You may see prices for beer go up, but that is solely due to the fact that it is a highly inelastic market.

cheers

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 00:52 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Money=energy you can't produce or process anything that doesn't follow those rules. You can't sell steel for a buck a ton if it costs you 120 bucks worth of energy and 120 bucks worth of human effort.

Supply and demand doesn't exist outside of the MARGIN curve. Collapsing demand doesn't involve MARGINS because it is liquidating inventories and structures without any respect or reguard for margin because that business is DONE. This of course doesn't work with farmers. Who must produce more of a good than people need. It always has to work on abundance. Which is why farmers should become more dictatorial over what they charge and work in an unionized fashion before they ened up having thier farms mortgaged to the hilt and they work soley as slaves. Oh wait too late.

 

 

 

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 01:17 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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Your argument ignores the fourth point of my reply: in an environment where a ton of e would cost a dollar, the energy used to produce it and the labor costs would add up to being lower that a dollar. I have no idea what you're talking about in the second paragraph but it involves margins, and you should note that margins do get squeezed in a deflationary environment, as they are now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

Until the money multiplier goes (convincingly) above 1 all price increases are ephemeral.

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/MULT

Just look at the recent credit crunch. When consumer demand collapsed last year as the savings rate skyrocketed you saw stores offer bigger discounts and lower prices. Lets review: demand lower, prices lower. I don't know what else to tell you...you can argue that prices go up when demand goes down but that is just not how it works.

Wed, 08/26/2009 - 23:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/27/2009 - 01:05 | Link to Comment straightershooter
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try 35.99%.

I paid out my balance each and every month for the phucking past 20 years, living like a caveman. The bastard just informed me the rate would be 20.99% a week or so ago. Well, guess what, I don't mind at all. At any percentage  with zero balance, my math says it is still zero.

Get ready for the royal screwing if you carry the balance. Got balance? Got Prep H?

Look, talk to your loved ones now and advise them this year you want all of them not to send you Christmas gift and you will do the same, so we can all royally screwing back. Yeah, 20.99%, eat my dust.

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 14:45 | Link to Comment darkness (not verified)
Wed, 08/26/2009 - 23:30 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/27/2009 - 04:25 | Link to Comment Handle with care
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This could only be true if there was a global shortage of steel.  But with global capacity utilisation rates around the 50s this seems unlikely.

 

Steel makers aren't rationing out shipments to the highest bidder, leaving the poor old US short of steel as it can't afford to pay as much as the Chinese.

 

The other reason it could happen is if tarrifs raised the price of imported steel beyond what the market is willing to pay and therefore switched to domestic steel, but US steel production isn't rising to indicate that

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 15:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/27/2009 - 00:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/27/2009 - 01:04 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Sibel Edmonds depositions were released about 48 hours ago. "Deep Corruption Beneath the Surface".  I am watching them now I will do a story depending on how juicy they are.

 

http://video.brownpublishing.com/video/newsdemocrat/sibel/

 

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 01:40 | Link to Comment Marley
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Cool, good find.

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 01:54 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Think of some of the possible news headlines which could have legitimately been made with Sibel's testimony: FBI WHISTLEBLOWER ACCUSES NUMBER TWO AT STATE OF SELLING NUCLEAR SECRETS or BISEXUAL CONGRESSWOMAN BLACKMAILED BY NATO ALLY Surely, if the corporate media is in the business of selling stuff, then such catchy headlines are just any editor's wet dream, no?

 

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2009/08/googling-sibel-edmonds.html

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 02:17 | Link to Comment michigan independant
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Today I will interview a local township trustee. It is not a certitude to America but a slice of it for our dispositional reality. It is not improving was are last dialog and we had to laugh at our leaderships wisdom and avarice. Indicators like data are fragile but they are just that, indications. The information conveyed on ZH is another crucial and essential link in this effort to citizens. Correct information where, or if errored base on reason and principle can be positive when remediable people pay attention and add value. It is still crucial to find a best course and hopefully the citizen can find candidates based on fact in these troubled times we have witnessed for decades. I will give up when they shovel dirt in my face but I refuse to dig the hole. Fight back or die in your hole. Vote for a man or woman based on the dead letter since this is the day. ZH fight for your rights where ever you are. The only fool I seen was the man in the mirror this morning and yes the grass roots are the solution. We all know what has happened so fix it. Yea I have my Global Corporate day job also and there just as disconnected and scared as hell also now. If they say they are not there lying and a slave to a dead economist. Deficits do matter since I feel more are to be cut but i will see tomorrow and we know where this going. Thanks all for the posts.

  

 

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 07:28 | Link to Comment RatherBFlying
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Please... for the sake of the children... don't drink and post.

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