• Reggie Middleton
    03/19/2010 - 10:03
    As I warned in my Pan-European Sovereign Debt Crisis series and amid a depression, this Eastern European government has collapsed. Western European countries (and their banks) have material claims within this country, and when combined with pressure from the PIIGS, may be the ones that set off the financial/economic contagion daisy chain. It is difficult to determine who sets it off, which is why it is best to attempt to determine the path of the contagion instead...
  • Leo Kolivakis
    03/19/2010 - 07:34
    A recent joint poll by Responsible-Investor.com, the Network for Sustainable Financial Markets and AQ Research, showed more than 90% of investment professionals believe moral hazard has increased. And yet, global pension funds and wealth funds who manage trillions of dollars have not taken the lead to push for financial reforms. Why do they acquiesce, and not push for meaningful post-crisis reforms?
  • Econophile
    03/19/2010 - 00:48
    The fact that Google will not kowtow to Bejing and will walk away from the market of greatest potential is to me a commendable act. This is a companion piece to my series, "China's Fragile Economy, Its Housing Bubble, and What It Means To Us." China is not a liberal country, by far.

US Treasury - Deep Thinking?

Bruce Krasting's picture




I was down in Washington on a business trip. That ended at four and I headed for a bar. I found a spot between Pennsylvania and Kentucky Avenues. Nice place. Two barkeeps, me and another guy who looked like he had been drinking gin for the past few hours. Quiet, just the way I like it.

Sure enough, at five the place fills up. It’s a young crowd. Good looking. Well dressed. This looked like an Ivy League group. I was thinking that they could be DOJ, possibly IRS (they looked too happy, but who knows). They could have been Treasury folks; the headquarters is not far off. Anyway, they had two drinks gossiped for and hour and left. I stayed.

At one point I happened to look under the now empty stool next to me. Some folded up papers. Being the nosey S.O.B. that I am, I picked them up and took a look. Bingo!

I am just guessing, but these initials could stand for Geithner, Volker, Summers, Goolsbee and Romer. Of course they could stand for anything. I will leave it to you to draw any conclusions that might be appropriate after a look at this. Judging from the notes that were taken, this must have been an interesting meeting. I am using the Scribd format so you can enlarge this. Enjoy!

Found Memo

 

 

 


If you haven’t as yet, take a look at the ‘labels for this post’. Life is a comedy. We’re all a part of it. Happy Holiday.
bk

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by Blue Fairy
on Mon, 12/21/2009 - 22:42
#171369

Is this the same document?

www.scribd.com/doc/24355825/Treasury-Memo -

 

by hbjork1
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 11:21
#171666

Bllue Fairy:

it is gone from this link but at least could still be found on Krasting's site (at least a few minutes ago)

Black helicopters?

 

 

by Anonymous
on Mon, 12/21/2009 - 23:59
#171400

It looks like a bunch of teenagers hyped up on something.

by WaterWings
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 13:34
#171835

Coffee stain. Stoli on the shopping list - extra dirrrty - just how DC girls like it.

by Catullus
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 01:51
#171417

ha

 

That really got me.  Although PV is still probably meanie face poopy pants to this Administration

by TumblingDice
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 00:56
#171419

Thanks for the laugh Bruce.

by exportbank
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 07:06
#171476

Treasury is all about communication not about finance - BUT, so is every division of every government and company. How you paint the message is the single most important job in life. The great news is that every American rode gold to a $150.- "profit" - so go spend it.

Enjoyed the post - loved the pen work.

by Ned Zeppelin
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 07:11
#171478

Funny!

by gmak
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 07:53
#171493

The document has been deleted from scribd.

by GoldmanBaggins
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 08:05
#171496

If this is authentic then we can assume the US gov policy is to print its way out of any and all problems. Very scary.

by Anonymous
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 10:18
#171586

It's not authentic, dude. Nobody prints anything any more. Ever hear of an iPod?

by Problem Is
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 13:32
#171816

My director used to make us print out meeting agendas for each person at every meeting. He would always make notes in the margins. Similar to this person, pro points on the left, contrary on the right.

Printed meeting agendas are not unusual. A group could have been going over the talking points content and making notes during the meeting.

Bruce stated the crowd looked Ivy League. This director went to Cornell (is that technically ivy? public school...) and worked at a DC non profit before I worked for him.

That said it does have the earmarks of a plant. ZH as a critic of the power structure, would likely be surveilled by opponents on Wall Street and pro Wall Street gov't lackeys. Reporters movements monitored, etc. Discrediting ZH by getting them to post erroneous material would be a classic tactic.

Don't laugh. Nixon obsessed with and spied on the press. This administration has all the symptoms of message control freaks.

by CD
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 15:14
#171968

The scary part is that Problem is right, and this is too close to the truth (like great comedy always is) -- it's not a huge stretch to assume it's real (as in real notes from real Treasury aides, or as in real planted document intended as a Trojan). But like Bruce said, take a close and careful look at the document tags beneath the title. Happy second-shortest day of the year.

by berlinjames02
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 21:42
#172289

My first impression is that this is probably legitimate- assuming Bruce isn't pulling a fast one on us. (I live in DC and there aren't many bars between Penn and Kentucky Ave. Also there aren't any Treasury buildings there? Sounds suspicious.)

Government still prints everything- including money. Plus the note taker has the spelling capability of a 3rd grader. Par for the course.

Perhaps the biggest factor that support its validity are that the talking points that have no basis in reality. "Loans values are 125% of property values"... Break out the champagne! Everyone is "$150" better off, despite having the dollar decline the past year. What planet do these guys live on?

I wish I knew the name of the bar. I would go hang out there and look for other trash.

P.S. Cornell has 7 colleges: 4 private and 3 public (or vice versa). In my experience the quality of the students varied greatly between the public/private colleges. I met 2 geniuses (easily >170 IQs) while I was there, as well as many other 'smart' people. I spent most my time in the natural science departments so I could have a skewed perspective.

by Anonymous
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 13:52
#171862

Ben told you his game plan is his famous 2002 speech, "I have a helicopter and a printing press" speech. Nothing has changed

by deadhead
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 08:19
#171507

Nice job Bruce!  Enjoyed it....

by spades434
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 09:50
#171562

"The Federal Reserve Bank has purchased all of the bonds held by Chinese."

If this is true, taken in context with other FED purchases, how long before the FRB completes its "acquisition" of the United States? Or are they already in a "first lein" position?

by NYPoke
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 11:00
#171642

You can probably add one person to the Q4 Unemployment Numbers.

by Anonymous
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 11:27
#171674

This isn't policy this is propaganda dept. All you can read from this is a spin machine. Interesting look into the spin machine though.

by Anonymous
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 12:15
#171727

Unbelievable. This should be the main story of the day. This is REAL.

by Oso
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 12:27
#171752

holy f*ckin sh*t - this is so maddeningly stupid.  "no consequence to Fed buying treasuries"?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  The US is richer because the price of gold went up!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?  OMFG X 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Ripped Chunk
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 12:35
#171763

Don't get upset, get a pitchfork

by Anonymous
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 12:37
#171764

wow. a smoking gun.

So the Chinese DID say "YOU will be buying from us those fraudulent agency bonds", and the UST/Fed said "okay". I'd long suspected this, but now we know. wow.

UST IS planning to issue debt directly to the Fed. wow.

our leadership at Treasury and Fed are certifiable scumbags. no surprise there.

damn it. the existence of people like this in power saps the will to live.

by Trifecta Man
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 12:41
#171770

"... Treasury has developed a new method of funding the deficit."

Double underlined "Important!"  "Shows leadership and innovation."  [ AG ]

"For example, if market conditions do not suit us, Treasury will simple sell our debt issuance directly to the FRB.  This important new tool will allow the country to greatly expand our debt with little or no consequence."

"Happy face - Yes!  T.G."

=====

It's a tragedy that these people think they can snow our congressmen into believing that this issuance of debt will have "little or no consequences".

It's a tragedy that Americans will be impoverished by a government  that will grow out of control with money printed at will competing with the few dollars that many people worked very hard for.

It's a tragedy that so many Americans have lost their jobs because of fiscal scammers in our government and businesses.

It's a tragedy that bankers and rating agencies scammed other people with fiscally irresponsible loans, and conned America to save them.

It's a tragedy that these con artists pervade America.  You're not the leaders you think you are.  You are con artists.

 

by Anonymous
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 12:53
#171783

A "new method for funding the deficit" !?! Sell direct to FRB with no consequence!? It is almost as if there is NO adult supervision besides PV, aka 'poopster'. It is astounding to see just how ignorant these people think the American public is. In one "talking point" they say the gold rally has made $45 billion for the American public and in the next breath admit a loss of $200 billion (and counting) on the agencies alone. And of course, we all know that the gold price COULD go down, but the debt added to solve the financial disaster will remain... which is ironically the same issue that we started with: asset prices that dropped in value below the debt meant to carry them.

by mnzcme
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 13:01
#171792

A "new method for funding the deficit" !?!  Sell direct to FRB with no consequence!?  It is almost as if there is NO adult supervision besides PV, aka 'poopster'.  It is astounding to see just how ignorant these people think the American public is.  In one "talking point" they say the gold rally has made $45 billion for the American public and in the next breath admit a loss of $200 billion (and counting) on the agencies alone.  And of course, we all know that the gold price COULD go down, but the debt added to solve the financial disaster will remain... which is ironically the same issue that we started with: asset prices that dropped in value below the debt meant to carry them.

 

by Anonymous
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 13:20
#171821

Maybe a dumb question but what is WLW next to CR? Romer just belching up coffee cake at the table?

by Problem Is
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 13:24
#171827

This maybe a dumb question but what does WLW mean next to CR? Is it just Romer belching up coffee cake during the meeting?

by AnonymousMonetarist
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 13:30
#171831

WLW - We Love Washington

by Problem Is
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 13:33
#171833

Thanks AM. Romer belching would have made me less nauseous...

by Trifecta Man
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 13:53
#171863

"Whatever Larry Wants"  See page 2 red note.

by AnonymousMonetarist
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 13:25
#171828

The greatest post of the year. Cat food. Sympathy Card. Stoli. Now that my friends is the State of the Union.

by Anonymous
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 13:39
#171840

Bruce - that was LOL funny! Right down to the drink stain.

I see some folks forgot to read the "labels for this post"!
Too Funny! Best of the season to you and yours.

JR

by crzyhun
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 14:16
#171899

"We are all part of it." I get it intellectually. Practically, well, Dearest Leader and the borgs are not my driniking buddies.

I remember in the 60's, we used to say that if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. Well, I have so few solutions to this mess and disturbance that I do feel dirty, unwashed and somewhat complicit. I knew from the get go that this set of folks were worse than most previous bosses. I was right - big deal. Now what??

by mtguy
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 15:46
#172008

Cat food. Sympathy Card(not!) How about  Guns, gold & Stoli.

by walküre
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 16:25
#172055

Funny if it weren't so awfully close to the true state of affairs.

What choices does UST have? No, seriously what choices do they have?

Debt ceiling has been breached. Funding is drying up. Liabilities are increasing.

I mean they can pretend and extend for many moons or can they?

Print, print, print.. or default.

by Miyagi_san
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 16:32
#172062

We wait for Jan. 13th To watch TG talk to Congress. Marla get the poll ready for whats going to be said......

by Mark Beck
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 17:02
#172092

So Bruce, this is a good start, but you should do a "War of the Worlds" type of Orson Welles radio program about the briefing where the president is informed that the Treasury can no longer fund Government, without Ben B. utterly debasing the currency into worthlessness. Call it "Obama can you spare a dime".

Final scene; as despair sets in, the only thing Obama can say, as he grips his chest in pain is, Rosebud.

Mark Beck

by Bruce Krasting
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 19:09
#172207

I like it. I will start work on it right after the holidays.

bk

by Sir Crappy Credit
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 21:16
#172308

This is effing ridiculous.  I can only hope someone was playing a joke on Bruce.  I really, really, really want to believe this is a farce.  However, I can picture the meeting in my mind.  WTF happened to this country!?  Our moronic leaders believe their own lies.  Just perfect.

by Anonymous
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 21:18
#172309

If a speech writer attended a planning session and took copious notes, then it may not be a stretch to believe this really transpired. Here's why;

1.) they really believe they are invincible
2.) they seek every opportunity to pat themselves on the back
3.) they yearn for examples to show leadership and innovation
4.) they must give the "O" credit whenever possible
6.) their idea of a "moral booster" is telling a bigger lie
7.) P.V. may be the "official party pooper on everything" since he is the only one who has real government experience
8.) "... make this a Congressional problem" - best to lay blame on multiple heads so as to diffuse public anger

They say "Truth is stranger than fiction." It's not a stretch to believe ineptness was at the heart of this, plant or no plant.

Note, "they" in this case means the usual suspects: PV, TG, AG, LS, et al.

by Anonymous
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 21:41
#172326

Note to self: Humor is a difficult medium on the Internet.

by Anonymous
on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 22:31
#172357

Red ink looks to clear to be real

by romario
on Wed, 12/23/2009 - 00:36
#172420

dollar pessimism is reaching new highs and this time pundits think they got it objectively right...

 

by Anonymous
on Wed, 12/23/2009 - 01:45
#172440

This is like a great, big IQ test.

by Bruce Krasting
on Wed, 12/23/2009 - 08:49
#172523

Thanks to all of you. I hope that you found this funny. That was my intent. For those that did not like the attempt at humor, my apology.

To the folks at Treasury: I was just poking fun. But the fact that this came too close to reality is your fault too. You brought us to the point where people like me can fabricate a crazy story and people believe it. The reason is they do not trust you. D.C. has done so many dumb things in the past two years that nothing surprises us any longer. We can even believe (for a short while) that things like I described could happen.

Anyway, to all, a Happy Holiday!

bk

 

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