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One can only watch this devastation with horror. USDJPY drops to 76. Unbelievable. Many Wall Street FX desks are blowing up right at this moment.

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Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:30 | 1063336 Count Laszlo
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This is good for Japan, considering they'll be importing more than exporting. It's strategic.  

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:37 | 1063380 ironymonger
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Domestic production is so overrated anyway. Japan can just follow our lead for a jobless recovery.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 20:21 | 1064176 mt paul
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electricity-less recovery

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:42 | 1063413 Canucklehead
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That's the way I see it too.  I suspect global re-insurers (Swiss? et al) are also buying yen.

Everybody buying yen will have to sell something liquid.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:30 | 1063339 Black Forest
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EURCHF down to 1.25

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:32 | 1063346 morph
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Currently doing 0.5 - 1% swings every second or so. Normal...

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:33 | 1063350 virgilcaine
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Risk Off... like the Lights inTokyo.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:35 | 1063361 cocoablini
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Chinese will be dancing on the Graves of the Japanese Economy. Steel, autos, electronics. You know they are coming in for the kill...

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:56 | 1063499 IQ 145
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 Laughing and high fiving each other all the way; they haven't forgotten the Japanese invasion; the rape of Nanking, etc. etc.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:55 | 1063362 anyways
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if u have funds left, short the ponzi S&P. USDJPY carrytrades triggered the flashtrash...

junk:  May 6 USDJPY 95 down to 88, Before the Dow crashed. Thats a fact.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:34 | 1063365 sudzee
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Japan mass dump of all US treasurys????????????

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:39 | 1063394 anyways
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believe me. They would only sell US Treasuries as very very last resort. Why do u think they sell what in their eyes is STILL a safe heaven?

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:59 | 1063507 redpill
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I think if I was in Japan my perceptions of what is actually safe would be dramatically changing right now.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:34 | 1063369 Ben Probanke
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now watch for the defaults on the hungarian and polish swiss franc mortgages

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:02 | 1063526 whacked
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no closer attention to the Yen mortgages in Portugal and Spain...

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:35 | 1063372 nobusiness
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Why does the currency move so much more after the US market closes?  Anyone?

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:45 | 1063432 macholatte
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The currency market (Forex = foreign exchange) is open from Sunday 1:00 PM Eastern (?) thru Friday 4:00 PM Eastern (?) without closing. It is global. There is always a market open somewhere.

 

 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:37 | 1063377 prophet
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Perhaps unmanned helicopters should be tried.  With so much at stake it is hard fathom the tentative nature of the efforts.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:37 | 1063381 user2011
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At this rate, Japan will be able to buy earth with spare change.    The whole Japan nation will be landlord of Earth.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:36 | 1063384 aaronb17
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The last time this happened was in 1995 -- right after the second biggest earthquake Japan has ever seen.  Almost an identical pattern, too (even leading up to the earthquake -- so weird).  Check out the aftermath -- over the course of the next couple years, the yen nearly halved in value against the dollar.  Based on the last episode, this is a  very good time to be carfully loading up on yen shorts. 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:08 | 1063566 machineh
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Don't forget the incident of 6-8 October 1998, when the yen popped from about 136 to 110 to the dollar -- a move unprecedented since floating rates began in 1973.

Rumor had it that a hedge fund -- Tiger? -- was forced to close a carry trade in cannonball fashion. But the facts were never fully confirmed, as far as I know.

Reason I remember the incident is that I was long a million USD (an unhedged commercial contract, not forex) against the J-yen, and dropped a cool $250,000 in 72 hours. Talk about a 'WTF' moment!

 

 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:38 | 1063385 emsolý
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the night the yen carry trade died. with a vengeance.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:37 | 1063390 Waterfallsparkles
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And Bernanke already blew his whole wad.  Now what?  Another 2 Trillion Dollar Immergency Bail Out to keep Markets up?  Can Americans afford it?

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:59 | 1063517 cossack55
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Americans? No

The Bernank? Yes

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:39 | 1063399 Victor Berry
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Looks like for the rest of QE2 and all of QE3, Ben Bernanke and the Fed will be buying Japanese Yen instead of US Treasuries, municipal bonds, or RMBS/CMBS.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:41 | 1063403 Drunvalo Melchizedek
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Nothing to worry about gentlemen... nothing at all.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/16/japan-earthquake-economic-policy_n_836623.html

 

 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:40 | 1063404 prophet
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Open question to the Guest Posters: Do events in Japan qualify as the catalyst referred to by those who have been warning of a coming currency crisis?

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:47 | 1063439 Canucklehead
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Martin Armstrong contends the 1907 panic was started by the 1906 San Fransisco earthquake.  The flow of capital in a gold backed economy created stresses that ended up being deflationary.

If we don't get QE3, ... be nimble...

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:41 | 1063408 max2205
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I smell more US Bailout $$   AIG isn't doing well as it is

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:41 | 1063412 Victor Berry
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Oops!  I think I should have said the Fed will be buying US Dollars.  The Japanese Yen doesn't need anymore help on the demand side.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:43 | 1063415 sudzee
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Skip right to QE18. This time shadow banking will need 10-20trillion and quick.

Got gold?

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:45 | 1063436 John McCloy
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The past week's events are proof that reality eventually catches up with fiction and global economies predicated upon debt have been shooting us warp speed into a scenario such as this.

  Bottom line: Debt is never the answer and saving for a rainy day will always trump kicking the can down the road.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:43 | 1063416 Boilermaker
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Fast Money just said it's the 'buying opportunity like they've never seen'

Truly, honestly, unfucking real.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:44 | 1063419 max2205
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Dark pools had these trades firmed up before the close...they just are reporting them and guess what they shorted it because they could from 80.20 on down

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:43 | 1063422 Sutton
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Ben will import the reactor waste  onto the Fed balance sheet. It will actually improve the Fed balance sheet.

 

 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:13 | 1063610 Currently Smoki...
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+1  Awesome.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:44 | 1063428 george
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Does this mean everyone is getting out of their Japan investments and cashing out in Yen. IMO, it is going to be bad if the Nikkei open, although I'm wrong 50% of the time I say IMO:) 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:44 | 1063430 papaswamp
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Rumors of buyers setting up in the 73-75 zone...wowza

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:49 | 1063444 schrock
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I don't get it. Isn't this more or less a reflection of the Japan Equities sell off that has been happening over the last couple of days? People are liquidating Japanese Equities into YEN, which in turn then YEN rises against the dollar. Am I wrong?

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:56 | 1063480 george
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Obviously I agree. 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:34 | 1063995 Shell Game
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Obviously.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:47 | 1063446 Double down
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Some bought at 76.55! 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:04 | 1063447 GoinFawr
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Mark Carney has popped from Ben's pocket again and is frantically punching out more and more loonies. Gotta love those GWN lapdogs... doesn't look like it's helping much so far.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:48 | 1063449 stewmint
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Follow the BP model. Expect all the leaders and execs to be lying, everything is really much worse than what they are saying, and keep laying on the shorts while they say things really aren't that bad (level 4 emergency, not a 6 or 7). Might get some bounces, like EWJ from low 9's to 10 yesterday, but stay in it (today back down, no worries). Then, expect some news like BP gave, Containment cap getting put on the spill (electric line getting sent in), sell those spikes, and ride down some more.
When to buy though, if I knew that I'd be rich by now.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:50 | 1063458 jkruffin
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Haven't seen this kind of chaos since the US market collapse in 2008/early 2009

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:53 | 1063465 PicassoInActions
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Before 7 pm we will see 79.80 to start.

By tomorrow morning, we should be in the 81-82 range

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 20:29 | 1064207 anyways
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NY time 8 pm is 9 am in Tokio. And yes, they actually managed it almost. Well seen! Though i don't see anything above 79 in the forseeable future. I am short at almost ur price :)

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 20:32 | 1064212 anyways
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NY time 8 pm is 9 am in Tokio. And yes, they actually managed it almost. Well seen! Though i don't see anything above 79 in the forseeable future. I am short at almost ur price :)

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 20:33 | 1064216 anyways
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NY time 8pm is 9am in Tokio. And yes, they actually managed it almost. Well seen! Though i don't see anything above 79 in the forseeable future. I am short at almost ur price.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:52 | 1063466 tajitj
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Investopedia explains Currency Carry Trade
Here's an example of a "yen carry trade": a trader borrows 1,000 Japanese yen from a Japanese bank, converts the funds into U.S. dollars and buys a bond for the equivalent amount. Let's assume that the bond pays 4.5% and the Japanese interest rate is set at 0%. The trader stands to make a profit of 4.5% as long as the exchange rate between the countries does not change. Many professional traders use this trade because the gains can become very large when leverage is taken into consideration. If the trader in our example uses a common leverage factor of 10:1, then she can stand to make a profit of 45%.

The big risk in a carry trade is the uncertainty of exchange rates. Using the example above, if the U.S. dollar were to fall in value relative to the Japanese yen, then the trader would run the risk of losing money. Also, these transactions are generally done with a lot of leverage, so a small movement in exchange rates can result in huge losses unless the position is hedged appropriately.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:02 | 1063523 -Michelle-
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Thank you.  Now I know why we're screwed.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:08 | 1063562 Debtless
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We're screwed because some people actually call THAT SHIT a job.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 20:37 | 1064236 anyways
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+1

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 20:49 | 1064300 Shock and Aweful
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+ 1 more

Well fucking said....

That is probably the most truthful thing I have heard all day!

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 22:38 | 1064954 something fishy
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Yes, and some of those people have made a lot of money today.....

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:56 | 1063468 hedgeless_horseman
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Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:54 | 1063471 hedgeless_horseman
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There goes the US Dollar Index.  76.15 and a little bounce.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:54 | 1063472 Archimedes
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And Jamie Dimon said there are no black swans! Well F**k you Jamie!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jamie-Dimon-These-Days-People-siliconalley-3186293793.html?x=0

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:56 | 1063487 vitoox
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© by vitoox - Sell The Fucking Rally.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:56 | 1063488 fastishplastic
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china wants to promote their currency into the mainstream? they're negotiating with the us right now. for a share of reserve status power they in return will 1. sell all their yen immediately 2. loan japan money to defend their currency 3. fund reconstruction of japan

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 20:11 | 1064114 stewie
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I like the idea China would capitalize on this crisis, but why would they sell Yen now?  If they want to become a country with reserve currency, they'll de-peg and loan Yuan to Japan, which will exchange them for Yen.  

I'm no currency expert, and maybe I misunderstand the global curency game, but I think the idean is to create demand for your currency, and that means lending it outside your country.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:57 | 1063492 10044
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Am I dreaming or have humans actually taken over computers this time??

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:56 | 1063493 tiger7905
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I think it's safe to say Japan may start liquidating US bonds.

Comment above on buyers setting up at 73, WOW!

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:58 | 1063510 Yancey Ward
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This is just a rumor I am starting, but I hear that Tepco is going to encase the nuclear site in Yen.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:01 | 1063522 PenchantForHoarding
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Perhaps a protective encasement of iPad's would work?

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:59 | 1063515 John McCloy
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HEEEEERRREESS Cramer!!!

First time I watched in about 7 months. Cannot wait to here this. 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:09 | 1063585 10kby2k
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Same old shit. You are responsible for me enduring 10 minutes of him. Kudlow is worse.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 17:59 | 1063516 PicassoInActions
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Hang on little more, BOJ is comming in 20

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:01 | 1063532 bank guy in Brussels
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Jim Sinclair (JSMineSet) said he's hearing Japan won't sell US Treasuries, they have a deal with Bernanke, all the 'dollars' they need.

Makes sense to me - If the Japanese want cash, they can get all they want directly from Ben ('currency swaps' etc.) more discreetly than by a US bond fire sale. 'Win win' from the two central banks' points of view.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:04 | 1063539 duncecap rack
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How the hell can they print up and disperse $185B in four days and have their currency go ballistic? I know about the repatriation of funds and all but I would have expected the currency to go down with all that printing.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:05 | 1063550 PeterB
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Shhhh....Was that the sound of a bubble bursting!

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:07 | 1063556 sunnydays
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http://www.forecasts.org/yen.htm

 

what is funny is the forecast for the month - of yen to dollar - expected 81 with a +-2 - guess they did not get that correct.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:07 | 1063570 user2011
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Wait a minute.... US dollar and Yen is very strong now.     I won't be surprised Chinese are getting rid of their treasury and their US dollar reserve.    Back in the August, China was caught buying Yen and Korean Won.   If they still have them, I bet they will be getting rid of them now..

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:09 | 1063577 moldygoat
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OMG, video of The Bernank riding the dollar.

http://vimeo.com/9970489

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:10 | 1063581 Joeman34
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My question is - why did it happen all at once - and right at 5p CDT?  If many different institutions were selling USD wouldn't the appreciation happen more slowly, over time?  It had to have been a massive order.  So is this evidence of the BOJ selling Treasuries to raise JPY?

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:14 | 1063618 PicassoInActions
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5 pm to 6.30 is the thinest market, so it's easiest to take out the stops.

Plus usually all forex acount doing cleaning at this time.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:09 | 1063583 scratch_and_sniff
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If you can keep your head in situations like that, you have already made it. Sadly i was jumping around my room doing a mad mix of praying and laughing hysterically.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:34 | 1063738 SME MOFO
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+1 or -1 depending

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:14 | 1063608 PicassoInActions
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BOJ online, everything should be fine now

no panic

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:18 | 1063638 gwar5
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Wow, that drop requires a bunge cord. Japanese repatriation of Yen.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:26 | 1063675 chindit13
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Japan firms loaded up on US junk debt.  Look there for the next fire sale.

 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:28 | 1063693 Yen Cross
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HELL HAS a FLOOR. Bitches!

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:33 | 1063734 chump666
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Tis beginning...reparation trades and slam down on US denominated assets.  JAPAN IS SELLING!

 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:36 | 1063742 tradermonkey
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Its pronounced NUCULER...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlHEJtflcmo

 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:37 | 1063760 RingToneDeaf
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Our intrepid fearless leader, first President is preparing an additional showing of his time tested dance steps for his adoring audience.

Main stream media is Down in Rio with the Pez.

Talented people in Warshington are dealing with the minor details, thanks Gentle Ben.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:39 | 1063764 Clancy
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endaka saigai

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 18:59 | 1063869 trav7777
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this strength just permits them to print the shit out of the yen..wtf is the problem here?

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:07 | 1063901 saulysw
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ASX open, down a little, nothing to drastic here....

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:26 | 1063962 saulysw
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"down a little" after 20 minutes has turned into "quite a lot", at 2% or so.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:17 | 1063918 strannick
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Silver and gold look to be peeping their head's out from under the covers. If they see 34 and 1400 in short order, it's Thunder Road for the Bugs.

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:18 | 1063925 baby_BLYTHE
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Love or hate him, Jim Rogers has been dead-on fu*king right on this trade!

Since all this started in late 2007, Jimmy has been long the Yen.

On a realitive basis, the Yen has absolutely destroyed the dollar!

I regret ever mentioning the possiblity of me selling my gold.

I absolutely love days when the snot is kicked out of every other asset class but Gold & Silver ;)

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:25 | 1063958 strannick
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Its cause he's right that we love him. I hear Ben B can be very charming, but when it comes to his economics...

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:29 | 1063979 swissaustrian
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Anyone long mauritian rupees???

http://www.lse.co.uk/fx/MURJPY

The 3rd strongest currency after JPY and CHF

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:41 | 1064008 Shell Game
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Nah, just long marijuana doobies..  *eer!*

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:40 | 1064011 candyman
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Isn't the Paul/ Bernack fight still on for tomorrow?

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:47 | 1064048 baby_BLYTHE
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Is there a hearing scheduled tomorrow? 

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:50 | 1064066 candyman
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yes, at 10:00 at Rayburn building

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:55 | 1064078 candyman
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Congressman Paul announced his next subcommittee hearing scheduled for Thursday, March 17th at 10am in room 2128 of the Rayburn House Office Building.

The hearing will “examine the relationship between monetary policy and rising prices (with particular focus on food and energy prices).”

 

Clarification:OOps, should be fun even without the Bernak there

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 20:15 | 1064151 baby_BLYTHE
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Thanks. 

Something to look forward to, at least.

Not expecting much, however. ;)

Wed, 03/16/2011 - 20:09 | 1064128 swissaustrian
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Watch japanese TV in English here: http://de.wwitv.com/tv/6810.htm

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!