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USS Carrier Harry Truman Now Officially Just Off Iran, As Israel Allegedly Plotting An Imminent Tehran Raid
As we first reported last week, in an article that was met with much original skepticism, the Pentagon has now confirmed that a fleet of 12 warships has passed the Suez Canal, and is now likely awaiting orders to support the escalation in the Persian Gulf. The attached image from Stratfor shows the latest positioning of US aircraft carrier groups as of June 23: the USS Harry Truman (CVN-75) is now right next to USS Eisenhower (CVN 69), both of which are waiting patiently just off Iran.
Report republished with permission of STRATFOR
As for the catalyst the two carriers may be anticipating, we provide the following update from the Gulf Daily News where we read that Israel may be on the verge of an attack of Iran, with an incursion originating from military bases in Azerbaijan and Georgia.
Israel is massing warplanes in the Caucasus for an attack on Iran, it was revealed yesterday.
Preparations are underway to launch the military attack from Azerbaijan and Georgia, reports our sister paper Akhbar Al Khaleej, quoting military sources.
Israel was, in fact, training pilots in Turkey to launch the strike and was smuggling planes into Georgia using Turkish airspace, they said.
However, Turkey was unaware of Israel's intention of transferring the planes to Georgia, the sources said.
The unexpected crisis between Israel and Turkey following an Israeli commando raid on an aid flotilla bound for Gaza Strip hit Israeli calculations.
Azerbaijan-based intelligence units, working under the cover of technicians, trainers and consultants, have helped with the preparations, the sources said.
Military equipment, mostly supplied by the US, was transported to a Georgian port via the Black Sea.
Georgian coastguard and Israeli controllers are co-operating to hide the operations from Russian vessels, said the sources.
They point out that according to Israel, it will not be in a position to launch a strike on Iran without using bases in Georgia and Azerbaijan due to the limited capabilities of its nuclear submarines stationed near the Iranian coast.
Meanwhile, Iran's Press TV reported that a very large contingent of US ground forces had massed in Azerbaijan, near the Iranian border. The independent Azerbaijani news website Trend confirmed the report.
Those reports came just days after the Pentagon confirmed that an unusually large fleet of US warships had indeed passed through Egypt's Suez Canal en route to the Gulf. At least one Israeli warship reportedly joined the American armada.
Press TV also quoted Iranian Revolultionary Guard Brigadier General Mehdi Moini as saying that the country's forces are mobilised and ready to face Israelli and American "misadventures" near its borders.
* Iran last night said it has cancelled plans to send an aid ship to the Gaza Strip as Israel "had sent a letter to the UN saying that the presence of Iranian and Lebanese ships in the Gaza area will be considered a declaration of war on that regime and it will confront it," Irna said.
We caution readers to take this news with a grain of salt as the Gulf Daily News' sister publication, Akhbar Al Khaleej, has a slightly less than stellar credibility rating. Then again, this is what some, Breaking News Online most notably, said about last week's carrier news, urging readers to ignore it.
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Chumbawamba ; You will obey ...... no more F _ _ _ words
If you are angry say so.. I am angry that the USA sides
with Israel Government... the people may be OK there..
But the Government Attacked Gaza and killed hundreds of
people that were not involved with the battle...
I read also they steal body parts from prisoners in jail...
This is very , very , bad... ( Hitler would be proud of them ) ..
Iran has not thrown a stone at anyone..
This Chumba character does not seem supportive of black people of African decent; nor, does he care about the Jews of Israel who are trying to avoid being wiped out by another Holocaust. Then, there are the Rodney King types who wonder why we just can't all get along. I'm in the camp with that fellow who said it's better to kill your enemy before he kills you. Of course, it helps to know who your enemy is but it's always better to just be on the winning side.
This is such horseshit. Who the fuck is your enemy? How do you know he's actually trying to kill you?... maybe he just hates your guts and wants to place a stinky pile of shit every morning on your doorstep. More importantly, if I call you my enemy for whatever reason, do I have the right to preeemptively send you to Jesus? Do you realize that your moronic statement actually means not just war, but perpetual war?
"Who the fuck is your enemy? How do you know he's actually trying to kill you?"
I think the person you quoted was referring to the Israeli/Arab conflict. Are you also? Quite often it is possible to know the answers to the questions you asked.
So again, who is your enemy you think you should kill before he/she/they kill you? Come on, have the balls for a straight answer, sharpshooter!
I think the Grizzly, whose jaws are about to clamp down on my neck unless I kill him first, can be considered my enemy.
And yes, I know I could save myself equally well by shooting the Grizzly with a tranquilizer dart, thus saving his life and mine. Unfortunately, I don't have a tranquilizer gun handy. So I will use whatever works to save my life.
Should be crystal clear if you read the man.
The enemy is anyone you manage to kill first.
Drivel... this song and dance is getting old.. Everyone know Israel is in no danger except the danger they create by murdering arabs and destroying the west.
The mindf#$k the Jews have us under is slipping.. The clock is ticking.. Keep up the "poor jews" bullshit.. Just like everything else.. It's appeal will fade..
OIL! WE NEED A NEW HIGH!
OIL! LET's PUSH IT TO $185!
OIL! YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCHES!
OIL! WE BE TAKIN' ALL OF YOURS!
OIL! INVADE AND OCCUPY IS OUR GAME!
OIL! WE WILL TAKE ALL OF YOURS IN GOD's GOOD NAME!
OIL! YOU KNOW IT WELL AND IT's ALLWAYS THE SAME!
Gordon Gekko.. You are right... The USA is broke ,
our Navy Men and Women get paid in Fiat Funny Money..
Do not under-estimate the Iran People... there are many
in Dearborn Michigan and other cities..
They are prob the wealthiest foreign community in Hollywood
They are prob the wealthiest foreign community in Hollywood
Beverly Hills more than Hollywood. Most are here because the Shah was overthrown. They do not support the current Iranian regime. Come and talk to some of them and you will discover this.
The IRANIAN people are not the issue, nor are they our enemies.........they long for freedom, any kind would be better than what they have now.........
The protests should have shown the world WHO The Fk,is the issue.
It's damn radial Islamofascist Sharia Law SOB's,(esp the Lil Hiltler bitch) and their Friggin, Assatolllahs.
The IRANIAN people are not the issue, nor are they our enemies.........they long for freedom, any kind would be better than what they have now.........
The protests should have shown the world WHO The Fk,is the issue.
It's damn radial Islamofascist Sharia Law SOB's,(esp the Lil Hiltler bitch) and their Friggin, Assatolllahs.
Are these the same protests that were set up by the CIA and the Mossad? What about the protests in Gaza? What about the protests in Iraq? Ohhh.. that's right.. Brown people protesting against western occupation doesn't count.. good one..
And you, Amis, bring them freedom and democracy, don't you? Like you did in Afghanistan and in Iraq and eveywhere?
The Astro, Elliot Wave count and TA all seem to point to something kicking off this weekend that leads to some very serious consequences - http://www.apartofny.com/2010/06/we-are-at-an-inflection-point/
Probably increased sunspot activity.
I know... my Turkish coffee was really fucked up this morning. Drank it, turned it upside down and - would you believe it - the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse were there! But then at a second look, maybe it was a ho with big tits... hard to tell.
Best laugh of the day there Quantum! Thanks!
yeah, predictable responses - I assume you've actually investigated what you're mocking, just to see if it had any relevance? or, like the majority, just decided it's all bullshit, and "ho & tit" jokes were needed to cover up your lack of curiousity and small worldview. . .
yeah, thought so.
Apart from Reality, your link'd site has some astrological charts that indeed point out some of the tense planetary set-ups this summer - the Grand Cardinal Square is a rare event, and how it "plays" out is tied to how it aspects other charts, such as amrka's. . . I realise the site most likely is using this information to "trade" - but as someone who has been studying the charts (and events) of nationstates for years, I cannot help but note the tight aspects between amrka, israel, the fed, even ben b's chart - all tied together with cardinal aspects related to value systems, aka "money" or that which is accumulated to have power over others.
this past weekend's lunar eclipse at 5dg capricorn was EXACTLY opposite israel's venus (values, money), and within 2dg of amrka' venus (where this country is "tied" with israel). . . also aspects the federal reserve chart, and this summer will see some exact "hits" to all of the above. . .
I know this is considered bullshit by most, but seriously, if you could see the math here (and astrology is mostly about a 360dg circle, how it's divided and what the degree archetypes represent - if you leave out the woo-woo belief systems many attach), and the synchronicity of events as they unfold, the players drawn in, etc. . . well, you'd be amused, and perhaps amazed.
An excellent report, a lot of facts and good sources ! (sarc, in the best traditions of populist / socialist propaganda. Does bloomberg provide links to the USSR 's hot to report news training videos?)
I'll rate this article, a good "professionally" made emotional vomit.
p.s.s. Didn't know neocons were still in power, hm... Nuclear submarines with a limited range, intelligence hiding planes from the Russian ships (Kaspian Sea?), Azerbadjan provoking Iran with an Israeli air strike, although they share a border with it and their military has plenty of other local conflicts to worry about.. oh well bleh )
CIA Director Leon Pansy Panetta, reports that IRAN has enough enriched for TWO NUKES...................
That should tell you what's immenent,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
KA-Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom.
At this point the government cannot convince me that the Earth revolves around the Sun.
+1
Hillary Clinton , the blood is on your hands if war breaks out..
many americans will die... along with others...
double post edit
Hey speaking of Hillary and the piss poor job she is doing.... nobody brought up how she got her job after it was blown up all over the media about Obama and Bill bribing politicians with appointments to drop out of elections.
It looks like it is time to learn the difference between Jews / Israelis / Zionists.
To understand an authentic Jew, as opposed to a colony of faith-based land grabbers, please see:
http://www.nkusa.org/
Flo Joe,
Please!!!!!!!!!!!.................Faith based?.
Israel's majority population is not even remotely RELIGIOUS.
Their agnostics at best............
The hearings held this past week by the Senate Armed Services Committee have established that the Obama Afghanistan policy is in ruins. Obama had always profiled himself as the most extreme warmonger when it came to Afghanistan – more aggressive than Hillary, more aggressive than McCain, and more aggressive than Bush. Now, the casualty lists are getting tragically longer, and the ground offensives touted by neocon favorite son Petraeus and McChrystal are turning out to be abortive. Defense Secretary Gates sounds more and more like McNamara during Vietnam or Rumsfeld during the Iraq debacle at when he assures the Senators that much progress is being made. The resulting crisis will be revealed no later than the November NATO summit by an increased rate of defection from the invasion coalition by various NATO states and other supporters of the US-led coalition. Most of all, there is also an immediate need for an antiwar challenger to run against Obama in the Democratic primary campaigns which began about a year from now with the Iowa straw poll.
The fatal weakness of Obamas approach to the Afghanistan military adventure was the contradiction between the announced purpose – the need to defeat Al Qaeda, in reality the CIA’s own Arab Legion – and the real purpose, which has always been to export the civil war from Afghanistan into Pakistan to break up the Pakistan energy corridor between Iran and China and to make sure that the “Pipelinestan” perspective for that country’s economic development will never come to fruition. The populations of Pushtunistan and Baluchistan are targeted in order to spread rebellion and civil war into Pakistan.
In the wake of the extremely fishy Times Square car bomb incident, a new dimension has been added to the US attack on Pakistan. It should be noted in passing that the Times Square car bomber had been subject to intensive surveillance by members of the US Joint Terrorism Task Force going back half a dozen years, suggesting that we are dealing with the umpteenth patsy of the current series. Since the US accuses of the Pakistani Taliban of being responsible for this alleged car bomb, a pretext for a direct bombing attack or special forces incursion targeting Pakistan is now available. As the Washington Post wrote on May 29, 2010:
As long as the US pursues the absurd and hopeless invasion of Afghanistan, the danger will increase that defeated US generals will seek career or political salvation through the flight forward of further escalating the wider war with Pakistan, leading towards world tragedy on an even vaster scale.
President Karzai of Afghanistan has learned that the United States cannot be trusted under any circumstances. Over the past several months, he has been seeking to play the China card and the Iranian card as a means of lessening his dependence on the fickle invaders from the other side of the world. He has also been trying to secure his own arrangement with the Taliban. Any attempt by the United States to remove Karzai from power would quickly make the US military predicament even more hopeless than it is already. The only answer is a speedy withdrawal of all US and NATO forces from Afghanistan before the end of this year.
At the NATO meeting scheduled for Lisbon in November, the Netherlands and Canada will reassert their current plans to withdraw their contingents from this graveyard of empires. The new Tory Prime Minister of Great Britain is also signaling his desire to find a path to the exit. Poland has demanded the presentation of an exit scenario at that Lisbon meeting. Given the insolent and shabby treatment that the US has been meting out to Turkey recently over issues like Ankara’s attempt to mediate the Iranian nuclear dispute, and then the Israeli attack on the Turkish-sponsored Gaza aid flotilla, it would not be surprising for the Turks announce that they will be leaving soon as well.
Obama’s Afghanistan strategy as announced in last December’s West Point speech is of course a masterpiece of political cynicism and hypocrisy. He promises that the withdrawal of the US forces will begin in July 2011, which by some strange coincidence happens to coincide with the beginning of the primary election campaign in Iowa and also in New Hampshire. Obama knows how vulnerable he is among Democratic voters to a primary challenge from his left. This is the lesson learned by Lyndon B. Johnson when Eugene McCarthy and then Robert Kennedy entered the field against him in 1968 – the last time that a warmongering Democratic president has faced the primary voters. Having learned from this, Jimmy Carter carefully avoided foreign military adventures for the first three years of his presidential term. Nevertheless, Carter’s economic failure and general administrative fecklessness were so severe that he was challenged by Senator Edward Kennedy.
Obama, as we have noted before, combines the economic failures of Carter with the militaristic bungling of Johnson, plus the domestic police state oppression and scandals of Nixon. Somebody in the Democratic Party needs to enter the lists against Obama, or this social formation will soon have to be pronounced moribund. Veneration of Obama is in sharp decline. In addition to the failure of the Afghanistan war, there is also the White House’s catastrophic mismanagement of the Gulf oil spill. Unemployment remains near 10%, and might soon start going higher as a result of the hedge fund-induced collapse of Europe. And then, summer is a great time for scandals in Washington, DC. The trial of former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich threatens to expose Obama’s corrupt origins in the Illinois Bipartisan Combine.
During the 1922 Teapot Dome scandal of the Harding administration, much attention was focused on the green stone house controlled by Attorney General Harry Daugherty and located at 1625 K St. NW. This time around, events may hinge on the mysterious apartment owned by Democratic pollster and reported BP consultant Stan Greenberg and his wife, Democratic Connecticut Congresswoman Rosa Delauro. Rahm Emanuel, the political manager of the current regime, is said to have lived in this apartment for several years, and there is much curiosity about his activities there during that time. This could all prove extremely embarrassing for Obama.
Sweet, you showed up!
"Hey everybody, time out, time out! Read Geo and then get back your posts!" Just as the last word came from LH's mouth he was punched in the ear.
Hell of a post. I must say.
Chill kids. Any attack would only piss of the Iranians. Any damage done would be easily fixed in a few years. In the weeks following the attack, the stooges the US and Israel have been funding will stream toward the borders like little girls. Unfortunately for them they will not make it. You will see China offer aid to Iran to protect their interests. The Turks will smite the Kurds who the US and Israel have been funding. The Iraqi Arab Shia will have have to pay back the billions the Persian Shia have "invested" over the last 50 years. The Iraqi Sunni will be forced to make a choice between the Shia or the USA who double crossed them.
I suspect it is all a bluff. The US military has it's plate filled.
Don't bet your Mikhail Bakunin poster on your suspicion...
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Awesome post !
I wish we could generate the same passion for the BP Gulf clean up and capping of the friggin' well.
Oh well, priorities I guess.
Thats the best you got? There are 1.3 billion Muslims. The vast majority are Asian.
I have lived and travelled in many nations of the world. I have a passport littered with a great cross section of cultures. I spent ten months journeying through the largest Muslim populated nation on earth. i.e. The beautiful archipelago of Indonesia. The vast majority of Muslims are reasonable people and understand power dynamics and how to discern right and wrong. They are very adept at seeing the relative merit and demerit points of certain groups. Give me a reasonable monotheist of any persuasion over a rabid, nasty secularist any day. I can work with those with an open mind. The remainder need to be dealt with in other ways.
Just so you know, the definition of the word jihad is that jihad refers to a personal war. So anytime you hear the word jihad as a war on others it is either a misinformed point of view, or is outright propaganda.
LH.
Um, yes, and NO.
Jihad (pronounced /d???h??d/; Arabic: ???? [d?i?hæ?d]), an Islamic term, is a religious duty of Muslims. In Arabic, the word jih?d is a noun meaning "struggle." Jihad appears frequently in the Qur'an and common usage as the idiomatic expression "striving in the way of Allah (al-jihad fi sabil Allah)".[1][2] A person engaged in jihad is called a mujahid; the plural is mujahideen. Jihad is an important religious duty for Muslims. A minority among the Sunni scholars sometimes refer to this duty as the sixth pillar of Islam, though it occupies no such official status.[3] In Twelver Shi'a Islam, however, Jihad is one of the 10 Practices of the Religion.
Wait....yes.....
You drove my point home....where is the no?
We need to go ahead and take care of business in Iran. We need the space for the new Apple I-Screen Drive-In Theaters.
Prepare for torrents of lies. Like the ones you heard for the Iraq War.
Mac,
Yeah, uh, ok.............
How many sites has the little Nazi have?, how many Centrifuges?, Russia, and China have been helping this piss ant.
What would you have Izzy do?, wait for annihilation ?
The rest of the Arab's are scared shitless of the Persian Nut Job, because of the 12th IMAM shit.............they KNOW he's nuts.
And their own Assatollahs, know he's nuts also........at least the sane ones.
Is "the little Nazi" Avgidor Lieberman?
Or is is Ariel the Vegetable?
Both love to eat babies.
down,
No, you have them confused with A#1 Super Power, China.
The Arabs most afraid of the Persians are the ones who don't have a mandate from the people. That would include the Saudi, Kuwaiti, Jordanian, Gulf States...etc royal families and every other Autocracy or Kleptocracy like in Egypt, the West has installed. The Persians have been funding the downtrodden in every country in the Mideast. In numerous countries, the Shia have been the majority and should hold political power. The Sunni, Christian, Druze..etc are doing everything they can to keep power.
Just like in Israel, those in power do not want to yield to the demographic shifts that have changed the order of things.
Anarch,
I agree, to a large extent, only thing is......now that FEMA is said to be issuing orders to EVAC all cities within a 200 mile radius of BP's rig, if that flow of crude were cut off from those you listed, we'd be really screwed..(not that we're not bent over now).
I so much hope that people like you get annihilated. It's people like you who are nuts. If you only knew how hated you are! You fully deserve your future destiny in USSR. Hope your ObaMao fucks you hard, you and your children.
desgust,
Er', since these post's do not always come in line, if you put the handle of the person you are talking AT, it would help.
ruh roh
I don't get it. So we go to war with Iran.
That means what?
We're already at war with Afghanistan and Iraq.
Police are increasingly militarized as evidenced in recent G20 summits.
Am I supposed to be shocked any of this is going on? Leave me to my convenience store as I dream the dreams of frustrated vets the world over.
You are suppossed to be in school.
What a disappointment. I thought zerohedge members were smarter than this. Nationalism, religion, & race. Hah! A sucker is born every day. There are no nations only investments. Israeli leaders are bought and paid for, just like US and Arab leaders, and Asian leaders like in North Korea. History repeats itself: Napoleon and Hitler, were said to be bloodthirsty madmen that took their countries to war. Nonsense. Both were agents of the financial mafia elite. But on the other hand, if it makes you feel better, go ahead and believe it. Santa Clause is real. And so is The Tooth Fairy.
The Israel and Iran conflict can be summed up as stealth dollar devaluation. Same thing happened from late 60's through the 70's, complete with BP oil spill and all (and done with tongue-in-cheek since "it happened" on Earth Day). The parallels are obvious.
Yep follow the money.
Follow the money. When exploring almost any crime or anything, one of the trails to explore should be the Follow The Money Trail.
+10
To some extent, I agree with you. But dollar devaluation only skims the surface of the stakes in the coming war - the real, MATERIAL ones: who controls resources? who produces them? who moves them? through which locations?
In other words, the next world war, the logistics of which TD has captured here, will be a capitalist war based on the capitalist need for capitalist accumulation.
The derivatives-based fantasyland economy plays the role of bringing this conflict on. Monstrous derivatives merchants want war, because war is good for business. And they'll use the tools at their disposal to attain that objective.
It will be a tremendously "productive" war in the savage, bloodthirsty language of capitalist economics, because it will utilize excess capacity of arms and cannon fodder.
There's so much growth in war, in fact, that even bankrupt bankers will fund it with fake money.
We're at a point that many triggers could potentially ignite a global conflagration. Georgia . . . Colombia . . . Apartheid Israel . . . the US hardly has a shortage of fecklass fascists in their chicken-coop to do their bidding and set it off.
The bottom line: the capitalist economy is NEEDS war because it needs blood.
So war must come. Sooner rather than later, I fear.
indeed. if nationstates "invest" such large sums of monies in their military(s), it seems logical that invasions of other nationstates will occur - and nothing makes money like wars. . .
as you say, war is inevitable when an endless "growth" meme is adhered to.
Marla, are you working the servers or is Big 0's internet kill switch fully functional?
Excellent work, TD.
where do you think he (Hitler) got his genocidal ideas from?
From the eugenics movement in the United States. Started in California, was backed by wealthy industrialists who felt it their right to eliminate the worst of the proles and then operationalized on a national scale by the Nazis. Lots of Americans cheered Hitler on; he was doing what they wanted to do.
"When Nazi administrators went on trial for war crimes in Nuremberg after World War II, they justified the mass sterilizations (over 450,000 in less than a decade) by citing the United States as their inspiration.[59] The Nazis had claimed American eugenicists inspired and supported Hitler's racial purification laws, and failed to understand the connection between those policies and the eventual genocide of the Holocaust.[72]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics#United_States
There is some great quote somewhere about history and mumbling or repeating or something but we all know the USA has never had any history and never will have any history so we can all just hit the change channel switch on the remote.
Sushi,
Kali?..Nope, George Bernard Shaw, Woodrow Wilson(Biggest RACIST), ever to occupy the Peoples House, and Mz.Sinclair.......(Of SO CALLED Planned Parenthood fame).
And another dude in I think Wilson's Admin..........
They also learned Propaganda (Goebells), from Us, the Progressive(Socialist),Democratic machine was the cheerleader for all this shit.
Exactly. The pupose of the next war is to protect whatever assets (i.e. DNA) escape annihiliation in 2012.
Starting to sound like a good time to swim out past the breakers... and watch the world die.
I've always hated those bastards in Oceania!
The facts are very clear to me. A group of people from another continent went to Palestine and through the use of terror (ism) took all they good and made a religious state. They took all of the could and are not finished taking. The people living there lost their land, home, jobs and their way of life. They became refugees in their own country. Everyone in the US government and their people thought this was great although if these invaders were from a different religion and ethnicity they probably would have went to war to stop their invasion. But the invaders were some sort of master race declared so by the Supreme Being in ancient writings by these very same invaders so all was well.
Just be happy that their promised land was not where you lived. Also be grateful that no other groups on earth are allowed to practice their form of zionism to right historical wrongs. Or you would living in the Sonoran desert making falafels too while someone else has your home and job. And if you dare fight back in any way against these invaders who has the full military backing of the biggest empire the world has ever seen then you are a horrible, extremest that should be eliminated.
Awsome post!!!.. you know.. that makes you a hater.. taking such a sobering and honest view of the world.. Shame on you..
Go back to sleep and send in you compounding interest payments on the money we conjured.. Damn goym..
Fred, re check dose faxz...........
You heard of the Brits?, you hear of Mr.Balfor?.
http://www.invitation.to/dance/israel-balfouragreement.htm
Religous State?,not hardly, the vast majority of Israelis are over whelmingly agnostics.
So what?
Fact is, the state itself is predicated on Whites Only apartheid under religious auspices (i.e., chosen people and similar such 'invisible man in the sky' shenanigans).
Which worldview should dominate ? Which political, religious, social system is the most intelligently designed ? Do scales of merit exist and if so who should audit them ? How should humankind be organised ?
Truly, Lord Undershaft has done a masterful job here.
One might expect that the large majority of the readers and contributors of 0hedge
might be above-average in intelligence, worldliness, and wisdom.
Yet, apparently, his little parlor room trick of "Lets you and him fight"
(so that he can sell bullets to both sides, of cfourse)
has taken in just about the whole lot of you,
and you are just about at each other's throats tonight,
almost completely forgetting who the real instigators are ...
Blatant and implied intentions. Don't rely soley on the LameStreamMedia.
G-8 'fully believes' Israel will attack Iran, says Italy PMhttp://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/g-8-fully-believes-israel-...
CIA's Panetta: Iran has enough uranium for 2 bombshttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100627/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_us_iran
Once again, the enlightened democracies of Europe expect to reap profits
seeding death and destruction. The colonialists and their submission
to he who sits in Peter's throne are expecting to escalate hostilities in this WWII
which did not end in 1945 as most have been led to believe.
This time the mask will come off and the hoax shall be revealed.
Bottom Line: Israel will NEVER allow Iran to possess sufficient fissile material to either (a) build a bomb, or (b) give said materials to Islamists (or so-called Islamists). An attack WILL happen...now, 6 months, a year, five years....blah blah blah...and the U.S. will support such an effort. (I happen to believe this will occur sooner rather than later, as the GFC is turning otherwise docile Americans into rabid xenophobes. Ahhhhh neo-Fascism...Tennis anyone?)
The tiny but mighty nation of Israel deserves protection. A belligerent nuclear armed Iran will present a threat to the whole region. The USA's interests are served by such sanctions and naval manoeuvres. To induce change in some people it is necessary to adopt many therapeutic modalities. G-d makes sure a divine Sword of Damocles hangs over certain people. He can release it at will. The Persian nation has a lot to offer the world into the future if its worldview, frame of reference and orientation is correct.
Yes, indeed. "Tiny but mighty" (not really so mighty, are they, based on the last couple wars they've started), genocidal, 'Whites Only' Israel needs welfare checks from Uncle Sam.
Because it's a democracy (minus the Arabs who the Zionists have massacred, bulldozed, bombed, or otherwise refugeed).
I read this site for trading purposes, but have to agree with Fred C Dobbs.
As the article mentions Azerbaijan people should be aware of what is going on in Azerbaijan right now: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65I1VC20100619
Since Armenia is in the Iran-Russia axis it is quite possible these possible troop movements in Georgia and Azerbaijan are motivated by the expectation of war between Armenia and Azerbaijan and these forces are to serve as a detterrent to Russian-Iranian intervention in keeping with a war game held a few years back. The Caspian Sea Scenario envisioned a war between two countries where another major country threatening to intervene: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/07/tradoc-uses-a-s/
I thought I'd just drop off this local news item
Date set for new Navy vessel to be commissioned in Wilmingtonhttp://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20100624/ARTICLES/100629816?tc=ar
Seriously, when it comes to threads like this, do any of the more fervent regulars consider who jumps into the fray and who stays out? The one's who stay out tend to contribute the most to this site. I have to imagine that they look down... and laugh.
Hey, T, is this part of what BPOP meant when it was suggested that the founders? are racist? Just curious, as that whole thing got swept. That was an odd one.
Seriously BPOP is your source for concluding that the sites founders are racist? BPOP?
That is like Tiger opining on the benefits of abstinence.
There was a string of strange posts the other night. A few people saw it, and then the posts were pulled. A poster by the handle BPOP made a claim - It was odd. I'm not making a statement. You weren't there to see it, so I understatnd that you might be confused.
BPOP (and his 8 incarnations) have an axe to grind.
It is personal. Enough said.
There was an Iranian gay guy who used to live in my building. He once told me that he would never go back to Iran because he couldn't hide his Gayness, and, as a result, would be killed.
The point of the story is that the leadership of Iran is the antithesis of so-called "Progressive Values," yet Leftists have nothing but love for Iran's thugs because they have that one redeeming value that trumps all others: A savage hatred of the west.
You see, most leftists are all talk, and need someone to do their wetwork.
Brett in Manhattan ....
What part of Iran are you from, and why can't you hide your Gayness??? If Obama changes the "don't ask/don't tell" policy I suggest you join the Marine Corps. They will "straighten" you out in no time.
Haha
I knew one of the "enlightened" leftists would take the bait and try to insult me by accusing me of being Gay.
What else could you do? It's not like you could talk about gay rights in Iran. Oh, wait, didn't Ahmedanwhatever say there were no gays in Iran?
That's why I told Tyler when he first started posting this type thread that he would attract garbage.
Leftist ruin everything they touch. They are the Chalie Brown's of the internet.
Say goodbye to your site, Tyler. It's officially a joke.
Being gay is something one is 'accused' of?
Specifically to MsCreant
by Milestones
on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 13:35
#436764
The U.S. has a large ground force apparantly to jump start us into yet another war. Restart the draft and whoosh, away goes unemployment and of course whats left of any pretext of sanity in this country. Oh, but ISRAEL will be safe. What in the hell is going on. MY GOD, BOMB D.C. AND NYC first so we can rid the world of the most dangerous idiots. Milestones
by MsCreant
on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 15:52
#437088
Restart the draft and I will pick up a rifle and go quite ballistic. Me and other mothers in America. I didn't push my son out of my body so some fucking bankster could use his one precious life procuring and defending their loot.
by MsCreant
on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 17:01
#437206
The only reason is because they don't know/haven't put the bigger picture together. Let a draft happen and that would be one hell of a motivator to put the cheesy poofs and remote control down and see WTF is going on. I dare them to do a draft. Any reason I might have to tiptoe and stay within the lines would be out the door with a draft. Break up my family, send my men to your war, oh yeah, burn...it would consume every cell in my body. I'd have no other reason to do anything but hunt as many of them as I could before I got caught.
Your response was so poweerful that it kinda took me aback. It was the reaction that I would have expected in the Nam era--but not now. And then it hit me like a freight train-The middle class has not been vicerally? sp connected to anything since then. Yea money and houses and--family. But the family has not been threatened since Nam. And as chance would have it, I was rereading some of the writtings of Eric Hoffer and a aphorism he used in his book The True Beliver. "The game of history is played by the top (TPTB) and the bottom (welfare class) over the heads of those in the middle." The only link the broad middle class had in the equasion was thru the draft--our family was involved in the blood and death as you so passionately evoked. We are no longer connected--we have no real skin in the game. Maybe that is part explaination of the apathy in the middle class today; their ass is not on the line--not the family blood--again as you so passionately laid it out. Quite frankly that realization really hit me in the ass-I was as shocked by the revelation to myself as many others may be reading this.
Maybe the draft is a necessary ingredient that the middle class needs to decide if Iran and the nightmare that it will bring is necessary so that we can have our SUV's or are are their children worth being put in the line of fire. The middle class has been exempt from that gut wrenching decision.
In 1952 at the age of 16 I joined the California Nat'l Guard to make a few extra bucks. My mother found out and showed up with my birth certificate and I got tossed. Needed to be 18. The next year in Korea, The California Nat'l Gaurd was destroyed at the Pussan Resevior; there were virtually no suriviors. My mothers reaction was apparantly much like your own.
It is sometimes amazing how events come together in the strangest and vital ways. Your response to my rather innoculous post caused things to happen. Milestones
Nukes in Iran are not the problem... The Iran gov. said 2 years ago
that they have weapons much worse than Nukes >>>>>>>>>
Advanced - Bio - Chem .. God only knows if some is in major us
cities... This might be why Homeland Sec. has black plastic
coffins on hand in Atlanta Ga. and other places.. Janet Napoliano
won't talk about it... pass me another Beer...
Hey Jimbo what do you know? And to think just a few years ago, we were helping Sadam gas Iranian cities. Imagine that.
Hard to know if the story is real, but as I read through Israel news, it does seem that the story is picking up steam. Kind of like the gulf oil story picked up steam.
Religion, oil and nuclear weapons.
Talk about the three horseman...
actually, war, famine and plague... not long now.
and my favorite, 'natural and unnatural disasters.'
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Just another war for the arrogant welfare state of Israel, survining on the backs of hard working American tax dollars. The sad part is the tax paying citizens of this great nation send their kids to fight for this P.O.S state. What a waste!
You don't move carrier task forces to an area of a world just to bluff. If one is in the area, fine but if 2 or more are in that area of the world within striking range that says staging of an attack. If you noticed at least two carriers are not in the Gulf but outside of it away from the kill zone. They are close enough to allow their fighters and bombers to attack and come back. Also take into account the 3 Isreali subs that are in the Gulf right now. Many of you may not remember the special bunker buster bombs that where shipped at the start of this year to Diego Garcia. This island acts as a staging ground for attacks in the region, especially for long flight bombers.
Your article is correct, I believe that they are setting up for a massive and I do mean massive raid on everything and anything that is connected to the nuke facilities and also any Iranian military command and control and any ability to reciprocate an attack. There getting everything set up and ready.
"... if 2 or more are in that area of the world within striking range that says staging of an attack."
So - report back in a week and tell us if the carrier group being relieved is still in the area or if they have moved on. We have had a military presence in the Persian Gulf for quite some time.
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