Vega Strategies: Loan Request To Ben Shalom Bernanke: Divide One Upcoming Day's Worth of Asset Purchases Between Wall Street and American Entrepreneurs

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Mon, 02/14/2011 - 02:34 | 959011 props2009
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Is the Hugh Hendry trade:

Yen shot and long Nikkei.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 05:17 | 959109 Michael
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"Shalom" is a Hebrew word meaning peace, completeness, and welfare and can be used idiomatically to mean both hello and goodbye. The Hebrew language is quite beautiful.

Here is some more food for thought for people who really don't like traffic tickets and has the balls to try this technique.

These videos have to do with the 7TH Amendment and Common Law.

Traffic Violations - Court Procedures - Part 1/2

Traffic Violations - Court Procedures - Part 2/2

Freeman Council Tax The Take Down Begins part 1.mp4

Freeman Council Tax The Take Down Begins part 2.mp4

You don't need to respond to my post as it is just for information purposes.


Mon, 02/14/2011 - 05:57 | 959151 Hedge Jobs
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"The Hebrew language is quite beautiful"

It depends what your into Michael. If you think the sound of cats choking on hairballs is beautiful, then yes.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 11:27 | 959556 chumbawamba
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I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 09:00 | 959271 cbaba
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Michael ; So you are saying Shalom is a very nice guy ? Is that what you are trying to say ? This is a direct insult to the intelligence of person who spend time to write the subject letter. if you have anything to say for this Shalom business say it here, we don't want to here how nice he is for his family or friends, we are interested to know how shalom he is to the American people.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 12:27 | 959787 Bearster
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The writer of this article proposes to answer fascism with fascism.

Speaking as an entrepreneur, I oppose everything this letter writer wants.  I am not politically connected.  I never bothered with the SBA bureaucrats.  If you give free money to 5000 potential competitors of mine, that will be one more nail in my coffin.  You will be giving it to them, not based on merit, but based on political pull.  And you will get this money to fund my competitors by taxing me!

This is EXACTLY what is wrong with the current fascist system.  The solution is not to extend it to the 5000 most political startups.  The solution is to repeal it and go back to actual free markets!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 12:32 | 959807 chumbawamba
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Nailed it.

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 09:58 | 959350 Bubbles...bubbl...
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I think in this context "shalom" means good bye, as in "FUCK OFF".


Note. I am not anti-semite and I don't care how much my jewish brothers like to lie when they conduct their daily business.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 02:37 | 959013 williambanzai7
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This kind of a lending program would require practical financial experience which none of those pencil necked PhDs have. They think shoveling money to a bunch of grifters is the most efficient means of allocating capital.

I guess it depends on how you define efficient and what you are allocating to... 

Jamie and Lloyd will argue that the current set up is almost as ponzificient as it gets. And they would be right!


Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:52 | 959079 WaterWings
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Jamie: We may need an "Act of God" to keep this shitshow running. 

Lloyd: Fortune shines upon us! "Force Manure" is my specialty. 

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 07:10 | 959188 phil silver
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LOL They're criminals.

They are in the 'taking business', not the 'giving business'.

Incidently, I busy writing a song and need help with the words..

Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.

OK I might have stole a word or two, Oops!!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 02:52 | 959018 lolmaster
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TD I invite you to read Einhorn's book on the SBA before endorsing one of the few ideas that makes dumping Chinooks full of benjis on Wall St look palatable.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:05 | 959028 Steroid
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This request just canonizes him as supreme Fuhrer. Don't justify his existence!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 04:00 | 959083 jeff montanye
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yes and no.  it has value as satire but it makes a point.  there is government spending and there is government spending.  

i realize many here are ideologically opposed to it per se but there are crucial differences.  some of it is productive, economically enhancing and some is not.  

was ike's federal highway program spending like the vietnam war's?  was the invention of the internet like the war in iraq?  is money spent on basic research like the war on drugs?  is even money spent on unemployment benefits like money spent employing someone to pick up trash on the roadside or build a windmill?  

most agree that only ww2 ended the great depression.  must it be another that ends this one?  

p.s. it wasn't burdensome regulations that caused this downturn as much as the absence of/lack of enforcement of reasonable regulations against financial practices proved pernicious by history.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:08 | 959362 zice
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Agreed.  Thinking beyond the swindle of $=>Primary Dealers, there is a vast opp. to invest in country wide projects. This money should be utilized to provide a means to:

  • Stabilize and eliminate unemployment. The disarray of infrastructure in urban and rural areas is vast. Repair bridges , clean up the rivers. Clean up the parks\Wetlands. etc. We need to be stewards of this great land not parasites.
  • Create permanent means of cheap healthy food. Remove GMO, heavily subsidize farmers and regulate them into growing a variety of foods not just soybeans and corn and wheat. Further regulate and tweek such that 40 and a mule = vast prosperity. Yeah..dismantle Monsanto.  5 years and we will have vast reduction in obesisty and the plague of diseases that are affecting us.

Two areas, off the top of my head, that this $ would be better spent than driving nflx and amzn up.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:06 | 959031 RmcAZ
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Yay, let's start up 7,000 new businesses that will only be profitable if Ben prints money for them.

Not sure how this got on ZH... you can do better than this TD.

How about we just stop printing money, repeal burdensome regulations and taxes that are driving productive business out of the country, and let the free markets figure themselves out?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:13 | 959038 JW n FL
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how much ammo and food do you have?

well if you got your dream come true you would need both +++...

food for thought.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:12 | 959037 JW n FL
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Logic to The Ben Bernak... is water to the witch in the Wizard of Oz...

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:17 | 959042 Byte Me
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But how do you make Bennie Shlomoe read the e-mail that you have sent him?

(Best art for ages - It'd work too!!)

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:40 | 959066 Red Neck Repugnicant
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Use "Free Potato Pancake Recipe" as the subject heading. 


Mon, 02/14/2011 - 07:53 | 959214 Oh regional Indian
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You could just shorten that to "Free Latkas Enclosed".

Incidentally, Latka means Hanging in Hindi.



Mon, 02/14/2011 - 08:39 | 959249 Byte Me
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"Your problems solved at a stroke" came to mind


"Our problems solved by you having a stroke"


"Your Mom's pork sausage recipe"

..and so forth..

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:26 | 959049 gwar5
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Here's a must read: "Stiff the Fed" by David Bond, editor, Silver Miners.

Silver Miners


h/t GATA

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:57 | 959081 JW n FL
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***** "We owe Canada $3.6 billion. Coming in at 14th is Hong Kong, at $138.9 billion. We owe the Cayman Islands' banking centers $146.3 billion. Twelfth is Brazil; we're into them for $184.4 billion. We owe OPEC $210.4 billion. We owe the insurance industry $261.8 billion. We owe domestic commercial banks and credit unions $269.8 billion, making theirs our 9th biggest I.O.U. The Brits and our own state and local governments are tied for 7th place at $511.8 billion each. We owe mutual funds $637.7 billion and pension funds $706.4 billion.

Are we beginning to see a pattern here? This thing is beginning to go logarithmic. We owe Japan $877.2 billion. China ranks a measly third: they've been shedding U.S. debt like crazy, converting it to stuff we used to do, like mineral and oil production, but they're still just a hair shy of a trillion, $895.6 billion to be precise.

The last two surprised us. Holders of U.S. Savings Bonds, and a category CNBC calls "other investors" rank No. 2, at $1.458 trillion.

And the Number One I.O.U.? Drum roll, please: it is our very own United Snakes Federal Reserve Bank, which has us on the hook for a staggering $5.351 trillion! That's right. We owe the Banksters in our own midst interest-bearing debt more than five times what we owe the Chinese we're always sniveling about." *****


Mon, 02/14/2011 - 04:16 | 959095 gwar5
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"....This leaves us with the Federal Reserve Bank, this mysterious beast in our midst, to whom for no reason known to God we are paying interest. Our interest payments to this weird ghost will in a few years' time consume all of our "discretionary" federal budget, and we won't have paid down a farthing.

Why cannot this nation, like so many millions of U.S. homeowners, simply walk away from the mess this cabal of greedy Fed banksters created? Hand 'em back the keys, and keep our pledges to Canada, Brazil, China, Japan and our own savers at the same time. The interest saved by stiffing the Fed would retire our foreign debt in short order. Besides, it's time Timothy Geithner and Helicopter Benjamin Bernanke got real jobs - like maybe in a Chinese coal mine."  

-- Stiff the Fed, David Bond, editor, Silver Miners


Mon, 02/14/2011 - 04:40 | 959107 JW n FL
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The FED...


The Lobby...


The Person(s) who took Lobby Monies...


The NSA for letting shit go, so they could grab a cushy high paying Private Sector Job...


All Guilty of TREASON!


I could add to the list, but this should get the bulk of my line of thinking across.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:32 | 959054 Ned Zeppelin
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An  Open Application to the Politburo for Funding for Ideas to Propel Forward the Glorious Future of Our Dear Republic.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:36 | 959059 atomicwasted
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Because the State will do a better job of picking small business winners than VCs?  Please.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:37 | 959061 Id fight Gandhi
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But that money is for asset inflation, not real jobs!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 07:11 | 959190 Bobbyrib
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The extension of the tax cuts were supposed to produce jobs too. Lots of good that did. Sadly, our country is stuck in a rut. Consumers won't spend to support business, because they are broke and businesses won't hire because consumers aren't spending. As a member of the middle class, I know small business owners won't hire or will hire temporary workers. A better solution is to just end QE 2.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 04:31 | 959104 maneco
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Ben bernanke works for his shareholders and they are the major international banking houses. Not sure he'd be interested in this scheme.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 04:46 | 959111 JW n FL
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***** "What an outrage are your zombie banks with their zombie bankers performing their zombie banking! Your zombie banking system, Ben Shalom, is dead." *****


But look at those Bonus Monies! Bitchez!!


"The bank bonus season, that annual rite of big money and bigger egos, begins in earnest this week, and it looks as if it will be one of the largest and most controversial blowouts the industry has ever seen, The New York Times’s Louise Story and Eric Dash report."


Ben is doing Gods Work... relax, get a latte'. it soon will be all over! how much can it hurt? really???

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 05:48 | 959143 PeaBird
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Vega Strategies expects government to get into the venture capital business and succeed? Please...get real. This is wishful thinking surely.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 07:39 | 959205 Bobbyrib
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Well at least venture capitalists buy companies then never lay off a single employee. It's not like it wouldn't make unemployment rise or anything. (sarcasm)

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 06:50 | 959173 topcallingtroll
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It would just add another government program to be administered by bureaucrats and gamed by the participants.

Helicopter money is more fair.  It only discriminates against the disabled!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 07:13 | 959191 Sathington Willougby
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Or, just toss a couple billion to a junkie or crackhead on your way from the limo to the elevator.  You couldn't do worse than you've already done.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 07:30 | 959201 Withdrawn Sanction
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Wow.  Entrepreneurs supplicating for crumbs from the oligarchy.  Land of the free and the home of the brave indeed.

Is this a serious article/proposal?   If it is, I'll assume the proposers are simply ignorant of the implications of their request to be delivered into the hands of fascism.  What's more, they're even helping to put the noose around their necks.

And if they're not ignorant, then they're so malignant as to defy categorization.  Either way, what a disgrace.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 08:42 | 959252 Forgiven
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The money once available through VCs and Private Equity has virtually dried up.  You obviously haven't tried to raise a round in this environment.  So shut the hell up.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 08:50 | 959259 anarchitect
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Maybe there's a reason the money has dried up. You seem to think there is an inherent right to another round. So let's take it from the taxpayers if necessary. You're the one who should shut up.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:41 | 959431 Forgiven
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I never said there was an inherent right to another round.  I reiterated the fact that few VCs have dry powder left for businesses that, only a few years ago, were a lock for the next round.

BTW, the taking from the taxpayer has already happened and the hole they're trying to plug isn't going away.  My point is, what's a better use of the taking? Feed the zombie banks and their band of crooks?  Or actually invest it in opportunities that might actually provide something called a RETURN?

Since you obviously don't know anything about the creation of value, you may return to your couch and have another beer.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 08:06 | 959221 BennyBoy
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You idiot!

The program's purpose is to bail out the owners of the FED.

The TBTF banks. AKA Primary dealers.

Although about a third of them are there to only increase the number, they have no say at all.

I mean, Jefferies & Co. What a joke!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 08:10 | 959228 Catullus
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You do actually need to read Mises, Schumpeter, Hayek, or Rothbard to understand that if the Fed took them up on this offer, they would just create more bubbles in different sectors. The general response tends to be "yeah, but it'll create jobs" and you can walk down that long path created by Dr. Krugman.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 08:39 | 959248 Forgiven
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Cash from 30 year Treasuries being invested in America's entrepreneurs sounds more appealing than bailouts for zombie banks, failed motors, or Wall St bonuses.  The paper money will be at risk either way.  Some of these businesses could be the next Apple.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 09:33 | 959260 lesterbegood
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"With respects to Shylock, three billion dollars 'tis not a good round sum, it is a crumb! So, yes or no, pray you answer, sir, will you lend to us or no?"

Federal Reserve Notes, in actuality non-consentual promissary notes mis-labeled as dollars are, in my opinion, are not worth the smallest crumb from the most frugal of tables.

The de facto UNITED STATES CORPORATION, and its corporate subsidiaries is failing and falling.

Unplug from the corporate matrix, and join a free American people?


Mon, 02/14/2011 - 09:00 | 959268 anarchitect
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A good demonstration of why all bailouts and subsidies need to end. Those who think they're not getting their fair share lobby for it, increasing the extent of the theft and misallocation and growing the political sector at the expense of the economic sector.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 09:29 | 959315 Seasmoke
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its too late

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 09:45 | 959337 ArkansasAngie
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Investors need to stop giving their money to Wall Street and start raising local capital for local projects.  I'm a tiny angel VC.  There are ideas out there.  They don't need a bank loan.  They need capital.  I create jobs every month because I insist on GAAP and cash flow profitability not flip this business excel sheets in the sky.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:05 | 959365 ArkansasAngie
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BTW:  It takes Ben between $300,000 and $600,000 to create 1 job.

Give me that money and I'll create 5 to 10 jobs that will actually be there next year.

A pet peeve -- it costs less money to send stuff from China to Fayetteville, Arkansas than it costs to ship stuff from Fayetteville to Jonesboro.

Business model change time.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:12 | 959378 Bubbles...bubbl...
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This proposal has a lot of merit. Even 1/10 of what you propose can go a long way in starting a small business. Big corporations should jump on this bandwagon too as it could be a good way for them to acquire future talent and new products. 

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 11:29 | 959562 I Am The Unknow...
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Ben's Reply:  "You'll get nothing and like it!"

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