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Video Of Boy Shot By Sniper As Libyan Violence Hits Critical Level

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We were concerned that the video posted earlier of the slaughter of unarmed protesters in Bahrain would be too graphic. Alas, not even a few short hours later, we have received another video, this one far worse, of a Libyan boy shot in broad daylight by a sniper. Those who want to see the dire consequences of what the overflow of global discontent looks like, in no small part driven by Federal Reserve monetary policies which as the World Bank indicated have just made another 44 million people fall in the "extreme poverty" level, can do so here. It really is time to start keeping track of all the victims of Bernanke's monetary policies. At the rate things are going, within a few years Bernie Bernanke will have to defend himself (and his policies) before a tribunal.

Al Jazeera is tracking the latest tragic developmens in Libya and Yemen, where thousands are now said to have been killed.

 

 


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Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:27 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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No kidding don't be eating anything while watching this video

If any1 has any doubts why 'The right of the people to bare and carry arms must not be infringed on' watch the fuking video!

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:58 | Link to Comment Malcolm Tucker
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Ex-CIA analyst, and Reagan daily intelligence briefer, Ray McGovern, BEATEN for standing silently with his back to Hillary Clinton at a speech she was giving on freedom!!

http://fedupmontrealer.blogspot.com/2011/02/ex-cia-analyst-ray-mcgovern-beaten.html

 

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:48 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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Jeezus.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 22:21 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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Been sharing this on every social network I belong to. Even if you don't agree with his message - he has the right to say it.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 22:57 | Link to Comment The Rock
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here's the youtube video of a young man who got shot...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iobkwzoOAyw

 

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 00:06 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Wow, they really meant to send a message.   A boy.  In the arab world under Islam.   A girl on the other hand, I mean, in context, BFD.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 02:21 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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Holy s***t. Am I being provoked to no end or are things reaching a tipping point. First started getting emails from women around a decade ago:

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/feature-stories/trapped-violence-women-iraq-20090420

STFU

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:36 | Link to Comment SteveNYC
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McGovern is a Patriot.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 22:05 | Link to Comment Triggernometry
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Ray McGovern is a man of principle, an American who loves America. Unfortunately in this day and age to call somebody a patriot is to suggest they believe in the Constitution. You can't have Continuity of Government under the Constitution, so believing in the Constitution is liable to get you declared an enemy combatant under the Military Commissions Act and locked up indefinitely without charge.

In response to the post about the second amendment; amendments don't mean shit without the Constitution, which has been shredded, starting as far back as the National Security Act. I used to think I was born and raised in America and recently woke up here, but a closer inspection of history reveals America died a long time ago. Looks like I live in the United States of [insert your corporate logo here].

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 22:09 | Link to Comment Haywood Jablowme
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Clinton, that fucking bitch..

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 23:37 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Since the first meaning of "Bitch" is of a canine mother caring for her progeny it is too nice of a word for Hillary Clinton (but I hear you).

 

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 09:53 | Link to Comment velobabe
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thank you. she isn't even worthy of being called female. she is a horny toad.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 00:19 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Oh, it goes back at least to the Wickart decision that ended the meaning of the Commerce Clause, allowing the central government to expand massively.   Since about the civil war the zeitgeist has been centralisation of power at the expense of the states and localities and above all the individual.  Despite the counterexample provided by the USSR, our home grown statists are going for it one mo' time.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 08:40 | Link to Comment Ricky Bobby
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+10 That is it in a nutshell. The Civil War was the triumph of the Central State. The American Empire was born at Appomattox.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:16 | Link to Comment NOTW777
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outrageous. where is clinton - what does she have to say?  acting like a dictator

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Mr Poopra
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This government has become a parody.  A sick joke that nobody seems to get.  I never expected that i would welcome worldwide revolution but it seems that is the only available option.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 22:13 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Last I heard, leaning on the Egyptians to cough up whoever attacked Lara Logan.  Say what you will about Obungle's adminstration - can't fault her on this use of her time.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:35 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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Az, evidently you no playa' in several respects.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Kinda' clear.

And kinda' why the 2nd Amendment exists. (Wow, I'm linking these together after all of ...)

And why MLK and Ghandi and others succeeded in their endeavors.

And why, well, the, can I say it?... yes 'Pigs at the trough' have to be denied.  'cuz there ain't no more money.  Period. Stop.

Who is causing the unrest?  Why?  Who is behind them?  Inquiring minds wish to know.

- Ned

{next Q bus companies' financial statements will show something, me-thinks}

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:26 | Link to Comment SgtShaftoe
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Those snaps are bullets going supersonic.  Rubber bullets don't go supersonic, and they're effective range is pretty short.  This is completely f&$#d!  I wrote about the Bahrani massacre here.  It's what Shostakovich's 11th Symphony was written about:

http://freedomofoceania.blogspot.com/2011/02/bloody-sunday-january-22-1905.html

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:03 | Link to Comment island
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Is there any chance, the protesters from Bolivia to Egypt understand the role Bernanke and friends have played in the surging prices of food?

I can only hope that understanding takes hold, and that Bernanke and others receive due justice for their crimes against humanity.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:27 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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The Federal Reserve.

Fighting deflation since 1913.

Freeing the planet since 2011.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:35 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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The FED has an answer on how to balance things out, QE3!

Just watch as they spin all this violence and revolutions to justify more printing

Even after 2 'successful' revolutions Tunisia and Egypt no dictators have hung from the lamp posts yet, that is a too ambiguous message

We definitely need to work on that

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:06 | Link to Comment Michael
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Some of those protectors need to armor plate some of their cars and use them as weapons running over the police bastards. 

At this point I would be burning down every government building there too.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:16 | Link to Comment serotonindumptruck
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Yes, the use of fire to wage guerilla war has historical precedent.

http://chemistry.about.com/od/firecombustionchemistry/a/molotovcocktail.htm

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:31 | Link to Comment Michael
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Update just now on CNN from witness on Skype;

Snipers shooting the protectors like ducks in a pond. 200 dead just today.

Libyan Slaughterhouse Thanks British Petroleum and Muammar Gaddafi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9AMMz2kZuM

Pleas for Benghazi amid deadly protests

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmSKHo_R-V0

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:27 | Link to Comment The Axe
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This is going to get a lot worse, before it gets better...

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:15 | Link to Comment andybev01
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...and just before it comes here.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:10 | Link to Comment franzpick
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It's already starting, but it's different here:  What happens in Wisconsin stays in Rockford (IL).

My WAG is that some financial disruption will signal the rapid awareness of the power, and consequences, of popular multi-week 'stand-in', 'sleep-in', work strike revolts, long before even the best analysts find the right ZH page. Victorious Egyptians still have banks and stock markets closed going on 4 weeks.

I see commerce and trade disruption, shortages and Iranian gunboat diplomacy on my radar, and will take daily 5% moves in material/commodity/energy indices like XLB, $CRB, $OSX, and maybe $50 and $5 moves in Au and Ag, as the 1st indications of collapse of the No. African and ME U.S. supported 'penal colonies' (as Prof. Ajami calls them), and of rapid worsening of the 2 year old worldwide credit-debt collapse, the further handling of which by Embama and Benron will be underwhelming at best.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:33 | Link to Comment darkpool2
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glad to see some editorial control over some of the biggest assholes on this site (deleted post)

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:33 | Link to Comment gwar5
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There will be blood. I don't see how any of the pricks in charge of these countries will be able to hang on in the long run even if they survive the current uprisings. There's too much blood and pain to forget any time soon and it will happen again.

 

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 23:42 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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If it were my boy murdered that way I would not take less than 100 of the police snipers in trade.

 

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:32 | Link to Comment gall batter
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Bernanke will be in Paraguay with G.W. Bush.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:13 | Link to Comment Jendrzejczyk
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Will he take Bammy with him?

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:35 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Thousands dying is the NKI

Jamie and Lloyd got their bonuses (hundreds of millions over the years) for doing gods work.

And so gods work continues.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:14 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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'gods'(of all religions) have more blood on their hands than all the world's bankers combined but not for the lack of trying

You know what I only now see the brilliance of your post, since "god's work" has been to slaughter the opposition and control the population saying "bankers do god's work" is chillingly accurate

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:01 | Link to Comment asdasmos
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"Religions are conclusions for which the facts of nature supply no major premises."

+1

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:37 | Link to Comment asdasmos
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One more for good measure

 

"The easy confidence with which I know another man`s religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also."
-Mark Twain

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:36 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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So the proper answer according to you is to keep people in the dark about what is happening in the world? That worked really well for the USSR (and USSA). Our advice is to stick to the nightly news where you can learn all about the latest cat stranded on a tree, and how the global economy is doing great now that the stock market is at a 2 year high.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:56 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Yea...thanks Tyler.

Thanks for shining a bright beam of sunshine into all the corners of what would otherwise be a dark and infected world.

Thanks for exposing the corruption/ponzi/greed that is imposed on each and everyone of us, every single day.

Without you, this could have continued forever...asshole

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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+

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 22:18 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Some people reading this thread may not understand that Tyler was responding to an idiot who has since been junked away into oblivion. That poster said the following.

Batty Koda wrote: It's a disgrace that you're using the graphic images of what you are supporting to rile people up even more. Shame on you.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 23:37 | Link to Comment 55 men
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Thanks for clearing that up...I didn't understand what was going on.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 23:40 | Link to Comment Founders Keeper
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[Some people reading this thread may not understand that Tyler was responding to an idiot who has since been junked away into oblivion.]---CD

Thanks, CD. This is my first read through this article and posts. I couldn't make sense of TD's post. Looked like Bob was the target of TD's Reply. And then Bob called TD an a**hole? NOW I understand.

Thx

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 01:37 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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batty can't aim with her shame gun

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 02:49 | Link to Comment Agent P
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Why was the comment removed?  It had to be for more than what was quoted above.

EDIT: Never mind. I didn't realize comments could be junked off the board.  Interesting concept, but it makes for some confusing threads in the late night hours.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:05 | Link to Comment malikai
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Amen.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:22 | Link to Comment Lednbrass
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Im generally here to read and not talk, but for what its worth this site has tremendous value as a place that will publicize events and views too uncomfortable for mainstream media to even contemplate, much less discuss.

Dont EVER change that, the poster is way off.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:29 | Link to Comment Nikao7
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What Led said^

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:46 | Link to Comment Former Sheeple
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What Brass said^

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:05 | Link to Comment Captain Benny
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Amen.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:16 | Link to Comment Abitdodgie
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+1 , and thankyou Tyler for all your hard work and dedication to this site , I mean could there be life without Zero Hedge

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 01:40 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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my first healthy addiction

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:17 | Link to Comment Wakanda
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+1

<sarcasm> Please keep us in the dark.  The world is too scary. </sarcasm>

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:47 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Tyler,

What happens when new collective bargaining rules ripple throughout the United States? Who will retrieve the stranded cat? No worries, Dancing with the CZAR's is on TV.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 23:48 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Bravo Tyler.

The only good coverage of Egypt and other U.S. and world events of import is here on Z.H., Aljazeera, and other venues in cyberspace.

Majority media, especially in the "free" U.S., is near useless.

BTW - basic cable has no 24 hour news.

 

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:36 | Link to Comment Burnbright
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FUCK YOU. You think the CIA can pay thousands of people to protest in the line of fire, you're a dipshit!

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:55 | Link to Comment PY-129-20
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lol - so this would explain why the USA goes bankrupt... i love conspiracy nuts. I just wait for another Alex Jones guy who claims that the original Alex Jones was bought by Bilderberger-NWO-Lizardclintons and is now another CIA puppet.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 23:47 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Burnbright - huh? 

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 00:00 | Link to Comment Burnbright
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The person's comment was junked into oblivion, but suffice to say they basically were very callous about a young persons life because they felt that "that's what happens in violent uprisings sponsored by the CIA" or some such.

Personally I find it deplorable that a lot of people on this site even try to make fun of the pain and suffering that these people are experiencing, but to deny the legitimacy of their cause is way out of line. 

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 00:16 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Ahh...I'm with you, thanks. 

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:40 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Oops, has Batty Koda just had his balls trimmed a la Project Mayhem?

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:12 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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Hey CD... is there a Troll/Moron list somewhere on this sight? I don't have the time to keep up to everything going on here. I promise I'll try to be nice and helpful... really I will.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:45 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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We usually keep a running list hanging on the community refrigerator, but the trolls and morons change their IDs so quickly we've given up documenting them. They usually stand out like sore thumbs anyway. Just keep a can of Lysol handy to disinfect as needed and carry on.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:09 | Link to Comment asdasmos
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That's what happens when you cover these kinds of revolutions by the people, idiots run rampant. So shut the fuck up Batty Koda, you know full well by now that the FED is behind all this. It's a disgrace that you're using blind rhetoric to cover up what you wish to deny to rile people up even more. Shame on you.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:00 | Link to Comment treasurefish
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Batty Koda - You must be a Government Employee fearing for your job.  My sympathies. Even if you have your food stamp application filled out already, we are not sponsoring you parasites any longer.  

How dare you say something like that to Tyler by the way!  You pos!  Why don't you go back to the Huffington Post?

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:02 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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I'm gonna help you out Batty.  Go to your bookmarks bar...

Delete this -> http://www.zerohedge.com

Add this -> http://www.cnbc.com

Problem solved.  You are very welcome!

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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Oh give me a break

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:09 | Link to Comment FrankIvy
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Batty Koda wrote: It's a disgrace that you're using the graphic images of what you are supporting to rile people up even more. Shame on you.

This is the same sort of mentality that allows several thousand U.S. youngsters to get shot up and maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan with nary an image provided to the American Sheeple.  Was it Joe Lieberman who wanted to make showing images of U.S. soldiers getting sniped a federal crime?

 

He was using the same logic as you.  You remind me of porn starlets who have an aversion to semen.  If you don't like it, why do you come here?

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:20 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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Hope you weren't directing your comment to me - actually think we do share some ideas

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:24 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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is your name Batty Koda? NO! then shut the fuck up!

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:19 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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I often find your comments of interest. That was out of line.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:21 | Link to Comment wretch
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And fucking hilarious.

 

Captcha taking it easy on me today.  59 minus (-54) equals what?  Is that all you've got, captcha?

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 22:11 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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it seems some days the captcha Gods hate me then others... the worst is when I know I am right, but FAIL! any way???

 

My humor is not for everyone on all days... it is typical, I find that as long as my humor is in line with someone's personal belief(s) then I am funny... but if not then all hell breaks lose, I am the son of the devil on down.

 

I hope your luck keeps up!

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 22:27 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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I still like you - kind of ;)

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 02:50 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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and the captcha doesn't always work - seems always late at night when it doesn't ... but .... one of these days, I'm going to track

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 10:03 | Link to Comment velobabe
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you change your avatar graphic, more than i change my mind :-}

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:15 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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Listen up BK... I know you can't help being an idiot and all... you are actually the victim of a failed education system.

It is with this thought in mind that I will attempt to assist you with your re-education.

Firstly...

"That's what happens when you stoke these kind of violent uprisings, people get shot."

If you take the time to gently pry your head out of your ass and gaze around you will notice that the protest was non-violent until your thugs fired upon unarmed civilians thirsting for freedom.

Secondly...

"So shut the fuck up ZH, you know full well by now that the CIA is behind all this."

Clearly you are exhibiting aggressive delusional tendencies which Tyler graciously did not even bother to point out. And I am sure... should you care to look... that you will indeed find CIA involvement in supressing their freedom.

Shame on ZH?

No Batty Koda.. Shame on you!

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:25 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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by Batty Koda
on Sat, 02/19/2011 - 16:34
#977947

 

That's what happens when you stoke these kind of violent uprisings, people get shot. So shut the fuck up ZH, you know full well by now that the CIA is behind all this. It's a disgrace that you're using the graphic images of what you are supporting to rile people up even more. Shame on you.

********************************************************************************

I think everyone thought you where being serious... hense all the responses...

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:27 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Are you effin serious, Batty? This crap went down long before ZH posted it. I'm grateful to ZH for showing what it really is. Uprisings are graphic you idiot!

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:34 | Link to Comment Nikao7
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"So shut the fuck up ZH, you know full well by now that the CIA is behind all this."

There are forces at work that the CIA and others will try to co-opt and steer to their advantage.  TPTB are not as all powerful as they might appear to some,  such as yourself.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:07 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Hey numbnuts. Some of us are tought to think for our selfs, and some of us think for our selfs. I'll be the judge of what I read.( I'm gratefull it's out there to dissect, you pansy) Take your censuring B.S. some where else. ED...

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:21 | Link to Comment MolotovCockhead
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Please don't piss into the communal well! Don't like it here? Just bid farewell and we will throw you a party!

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:43 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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Yeah I understand. The cia is behind everything. I check my.closet every night to make sure they arent watching me too.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 22:08 | Link to Comment Mr Poopra
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Check better.  They're in there, trust me.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:35 | Link to Comment Questionmark
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I honestly can't think about Bernanke or his policies without becoming furious. One day when this whole facade is over people like him will have to answer for what they've done and pay for the damage they've wreaked on so many peoples lives with their own.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:31 | Link to Comment SPONGE
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...or not. Look at the Nazi's that were allowed to flee to safety.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:35 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Lets focus on the here and now. Middle eastern repressive scumbags.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 22:14 | Link to Comment SPONGE
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fair enough. I'm just saying that history shows the invisible hand does not always come back to spank the bad guys' collective butt.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:09 | Link to Comment malikai
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Give credit where credit is due. Many of these countries are/were/will remain authoritarian or oligarchic. They were not eutopic societies to begin with, so the seeds of their failures were already sewn long before The Bernank came along.

What we're seeing now is an effective catalyst being applied to many already troubled regimes.

Cite whatever reasons you like, be it The Bernank's evil ideology, decline of a civilization or empire, fourth turning, or whatever. There could be many reasons in most places.

The scary thought is that Zimbabwe is still a state overseen by the very person who got them into their mess. If inflation can ravage there to such extremes and for so long without a revolution, how long can the scenario last in the undeveloping world?

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:36 | Link to Comment MolotovCockhead
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Most of these authoritarian or oligarchic leaders happened to be puppets prop up by America. All these mess unwind everywhere in most of middle east simultaneously could be a signal that the Keynesian economic experiment ending soon.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 12:52 | Link to Comment malikai
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I do hope so. I hope it can happen without another world war. While most of us hope for a cleansing of this filth, I don't think anybody would want to experience the alternate ending of War Games, to get it.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:35 | Link to Comment Burnbright
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This is just too sad for words. 

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:42 | Link to Comment Hulk
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As was Neda, as they all are...

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:47 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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No need for words just grab your AR-15 (if you have 1) and stock up on ammo

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:01 | Link to Comment treasurefish
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Copper and lead are going parabolic.  Better do it sooner than later.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:10 | Link to Comment PY-129-20
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Hopefully not this one: http://www.2dayblog.com/images/2008/january/hellokitty_ar15assault_2.jpg

Only used a G36 in my life, when I was in the army. It's not easy here to get a weapon. But you can use medieval and antique weapons - so hoooray, we will catapult that tank out of town. Wearing a cingulum and a Lorica segmentata all day and night...or better not.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:16 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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Eine Armbrust kannst du immer noch kaufen, bis zu 100 meter tödlich

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:37 | Link to Comment MolotovCockhead
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With incidents like this happening almost everyday and the blame clearly tie to the Fed's excessive printing of the dollars, I can't see any good reason for the rest of the world can continue to keep faith in the Dollar!!

 

The days of the dollars are numbered...I kid you not! Happy days ahead for those who keep Physical gold and silver, but I rather have a normal day. Don't forget food supplies and lead in brass jacket!

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:40 | Link to Comment jbc77
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Whats going on? How did we let it come to this? The citizens of the world need to rise together. Bernankenstein must go.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:20 | Link to Comment andybev01
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I pretty sure that is what the citizens of the world are doing, at least the ones who are desperate.

North Americans are still on the comfy side of the food line.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 01:52 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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so comfy, we're eating the most GMOs, poetic

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:46 | Link to Comment Instant Karma
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Your arguement that current Fed policy resulted in a sniper shooting a boy is not convincing. The argument seems to go: Ben Bernanke is either a complete idiot or a criminal who is padding the pockets of his banker buddies (all Jewish of course). As a result, poor Muslim children are starving to death or being shot to death as a result of civil unrest.

Seems like a vast oversimplification based on not a small amout of Anti-Semitism.

You do realize people have been rioting for thousands of years, sometimes because food was scarce. Or they disliked their government. Or they didn't want to pay part of their health insurance benefits (Wisconsin).

And you realize that Bernanke is following the same monetary policy that Japan (home of a vast Jewish criminal cabal) has been following for the past 20 years--zero percent interest rates and quantitative easing.

And you do realize that the central bank of the Eurozone (another bastion of criminal Jewish enterprise) is pretty much doing the same thing to bail out Ireland and Spain and Greece).

And the UK has had their own QE and zero interest rates. Canada hasn't had QE but their interest rates are also about zero.

So instead of showing a video of some Muslim kid being shot by some killer defending a brutal dictatorship and blaming the Bernanke/Jews/bankers for this violence, you might want to give the whole situation more thought.

You may want to consider that the Bernanke is just one of many central bankers with more or less the same policy response. And you may want to consider that at times 7 billion people can't be fed adequately by the available food supply. And you may want to consider that sometimes people riot for lots of reasons unrelated to US central bank policy.

Did people not riot and kill each other before 1913?

Ok, junk me.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Questionmark
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I don't see anybody on ZH blaming Jews. That's something xenophobic rednecks might claim but not the kind of thing you'll generally find here.

 

Otherwise your assesment is right, Bernanke is a criminal working to help an elite few and is wreaking havoc on the world economy by way of his monetary policy.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 17:57 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Really?  I see people blaming Jews all the time - got into it with Chumbawumba last night on that very issue, actually.  Look at poster Israhole.  There is *no* shortage of Jew-blaming or crazy conspiracy theories.  But that is the commenters - in fairness, Tyler tolerates all, and I've never seen anything overtly anti-Jew posted by him.  Tyler, to his credit, is an equal-opportunity caller-outer.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:11 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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It's sad that most people can't differentiate between 'crazy' conspiracy theories and rational theories of conspiracy

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:20 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Happy to be enlightened, if you can rationally explain to me how the Rothschilds have run the world for the past 300 years.  Bit of a tough sell.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:33 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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Rothschild control of the world for dummies

1st - a scout brings the information of Napoleons defeat, Rothschild spreads the rumor that Napoleon won and buys the whole British stock exchange after it plunges

2nd - the establishment of a Central Bank in every western country (took 100 years)

3rd - Panic of 1907 to lay the ground work for the Federal Reserve in the USA (that last bastion of free capitalism)

4th - assasination of Duke Ferdinand causing WW1 after the British promise Palestine to the jewish Balfour Declaration(promise not kept)

5th - bankroll a jew-hater Hitler and make him wage war on Europe by putting an economical blockade on Germany and threatening to destroy it's economy

6th - bankroll the Allies to defeat Germany and get Palestine in return, make sure to black-mail all heads of state so they keep their promise this time

7th - fund all major political parties, effectively circumvent democracy establishing a shadow government "Bilderberg Group"

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:40 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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This dummy would like to respectfully ask why every other speculator who ever bought on a rumor hasn't achieved world domination; how you're linking the establishment of the U.S. central bank, in 1913, to being prior to the Panic of 1907; why a Jewish family would bankroll somebody bent on killing Jews; why the Rothschilds would want Palestine so badly if Hitler is being simultaneously bankrolled to kill Jews; and how precisely one traces the funding of "all major political parties."  Please continue enlightening me.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:20 | Link to Comment treasurefish
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Watch the "Secret of Oz" on YouTube.  You are hereby enlightened.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:25 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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@ Aza

dewd, the stuff u mentioned is just the tip of the iceberg. people have written books on the rothschilds. but anyway, here's the latest and i'm not going to get into the topic of controlling the weather because all the lazy idiots will right away say "conspiracy theory" and won't bother to research anything that is hiding in plain view, but not reported in the controlled main stream media.

E.L. Rothschild LLC Acquires a Majority Stake in Weather Central, LP

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/press/stake-weather-central-lp,163574...

 

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:19 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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You think that buying a weather forecasting facility is the same as controlling the weather?  This just gets richer and richer as the night goes on.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 05:46 | Link to Comment Confused
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While I agree, some theories seem a bit off. But when taken in the aggregate they could be entirely plausible.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 10:18 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Another simple-minded cretin.

Ever heard of Management of Perspective?  Manufacturing Cosent?  Psychological Operations?

Lying?

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 10:53 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Chumbawamba,

The more you speak, the more it is obvious that the only first-hand contact you've ever had with the financial system is through your bank teller, and the only knowledge of the world you have is through WorldNetDaily, which you mistake as "serious scholarship."  It would be funny, if it weren't so sad, how ignorant you are, and how you try to hide that with obnoxiousness.  To anybody with an occupation above street sweeper, you have added nothing but venality, hate, and a good touch of jealousy, with your commentary.  You have a lot of fans on ZH.  Enjoy them, but know there are other people who recognize that you are a hateful jackass who has no idea what he's talking about, on virtually any subject he cares to chime in on.  My work here is done.

 

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 12:43 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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You're like a lazy gardener that shows up on Friday, takes a shit in the back corner of the lot, then proclaims loudly, "My work here is done!"

Thanks for the fertilizer.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 05:42 | Link to Comment Confused
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Rothschild to become one of the largest coal producers. Follow the trail. 

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-01/nat-rothschild-plays-his-strong...

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 01:06 | Link to Comment goldsaver
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Ypu forgot bankrolling both sides of the war in #1 and...

bankrolling the French invasion of Mexico in order to position French troops to invade the confederacy once the US disolved due to the civil war. The US did not disolve, so the French invasion of the US never happened.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 18:05 | Link to Comment In Fed We Trust
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The only video you will ever need to watch to be enlightened about 911 and the Isreali connection.

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5367

It's only five minutes , believe me , you will believe.

Then imagine why the cover up? Because every foriegn policy decision has been based on that one big lie!

Imagine how Americans would feel, that Isreali Mossad along with the CIA, >911. Imagine how the Arab word feels for getting framed for it?

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:24 | Link to Comment MolotovCockhead
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Are you a robot belonging to the Redshields? Robot don't need no enlightenment, you just need to plug up more often.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 04:27 | Link to Comment redwraith
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You need to pay more attention

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:24 | Link to Comment andybev01
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Labeling someone or something crazy makes it easier to dismiss.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:31 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Great.  Convince me not to dismiss it if it is such a solid theory.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 10:19 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Everything you write is stupid.  Convince me you're not stupid if you're so convinced of your capacity for even minimal intelligence.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:16 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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Chuwumba has an excellent take on global issues. I haven't seen your avatar or name before. May be you are new - if so don't pee in the pool.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:24 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Been reading since this was a blogspot page; been registered nearly a year; been posting, meh, probably a couple weeks.  What I've learned from Chumbawumba:  if you buy too much house you can spin it by going into foreclosure and calling yourself a hero; maxing out your credit cards is cool; and Israel should go up in a mushroom cloud.  This was true before his multi-month hiatus, and is true after.  The guy likes to stir the pot.  He is an agitator.  He actually *says* nothing.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:34 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Also for the record - many of the old-timers/prolific posters I think are great.  For example, I look forward to anything written by EscapeKey, CogDis, and Rocky Raccoon.  Chindit13 is a guy I wish would post more.  The key theme here is - even though these folks may not have mainstream views - they are rational, and don't go around shooting off their mouths with no other goal than to get attention.  Do I get more credibility for thinking JohnnyBravo is a douche?

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:00 | Link to Comment Wynn
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Concur for the most part. The comment section has changed, but not improved, in some cases its practically unreadable. But we all know why we're here - the admin. That part is always stellar. 

Also miss the comments of deadhead, project mahem, bruce k, marla, and others

 

 

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:58 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Are you that Wynn? If so I have a lot of respect for you.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:29 | Link to Comment BrosMacManus
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Agree w/ you oyg, but could add a couple of others for their generally balanced views and stylistic exasperation.

One can divine to which echo chamber the comments will lead based on TD's editorial nudges.

IMO, zh is a petri dish; is TD the scientist running and observing the experiment, or a reagent (being applied by whom)?

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:41 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:40 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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I think he says a lot - which most Americans aren't ready to listen to.  Stirring the pot? So you are saying pay for your mortgage (even if you are underwater) and pay taxes that are going to the state of Israel (as opposed to your own)

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27513.htm

Love you - xo

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:45 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Re your link: I don't disagree with the idea that Obama is fomenting class tension, if not warfare.  That, however, is a sloppy connection to make to all of the foreign support the U.S. offers.  Blaming Israel for the world's problems is more than a bit ridiculous.  Would you rather have Israel exist, regardless of your personal feelings, or would you rather have the Arab world destroy it, and now have certain elements of that Arab world encouraged about bringing the caliphate to a town near you?  Always glad to hear alternate points of view; my point on Chumbawumba is that his are based on smoke and mirrors.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 18:53 | Link to Comment asdasmos
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ever heard of JIDF?

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:04 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Not until now - my 30-second perusal of the site makes me wonder if this is something along the lines of the Landover Baptist Church.  But even if real - if they are non-violent, so be it.  ZH commenters - as a *general* rule - seem pretty happy to believe anything posted on Debka, even if they don't, or can't, identify it as such.  It's a disconnect to then disbelieve anything from a Jewish source.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:20 | Link to Comment asdasmos
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Fair enough, and I have actually never heard of Debka.

 

But I am a little curious as to what your thoughts are about the whole Palestinian/Israeli situation. (thoughts on settlements issue as well)

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:32 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Complicated.  I think that Jews needed someplace to go, going back to way before the 20th century, because of persecution.  And, again going back to way before the 20th century, people of all sorts of religious stripes managed to live together peacefully in the Levant.  Immediately pre-Holocaust, and certainly post, I think it's shameful that the U.S. and other victor countries didn't take in more Jews than they did.  To me, it's hard to argue that Israel was not a suitable place for those Jews to go, for all of the obvious ancestral and practical reasons.  I wonder whether a population of Palestinians had been subjected to systematic terror and murder in Europe, if their right to return would be questioned in the same way.

As for Palestinians.  In no way do I believe the average Palestinian is inferior to the average Israeli.  I think it stinks that Palestinians often don't have access to water for hours a day.  I think the Israelis were colossally stupid for attacking that flotilla ship.  Settlement is a dicey question that I think is a case-by-case issue.  But I do not believe that Palestinians have the right to push all the Jews into the Mediterranean, any more than I believe the Jews have the right to off every last Palestinian.

And that's a common misperception.  Sure, there are nuts in every population, but I don't know any Jew who is in favor of Palestinian genocide.  I think a two-state solution could have merits, if people could stop firing rockets long enough to talk.  Barring that, I think it's hard to fault Israelis for protecting themselves.  I also think plenty of questioning is deserved, but not posed, to the neighboring Arab states who loudly bray their support for their co-religionists, yet refuse to allow many to resettle who wish to do so.

So I suppose the summary is - I don't think anybody deserves to be dead; I think Palestinians and Israelis both have a right to live in the region; and I think both have done a piss-poor job of negotiating with each other.  And I think other states in the region bear no small blame for the situation, using Palestinians for their own ends.  And last, if the Jews "lose," they will undoubtedly be wiped off the map.  Palestinians - I doubt it.

Debka - it's been around quite a while (I started reading in 2004, and I'm sure was around before that).  The rumors, and I stress rumors, are that the writer has some sort of Mossad connection.  Most of what shows up on Debka turns out to be BS, but it's all thought-provoking, and once in a while they do get a scoop.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:10 | Link to Comment asdasmos
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I agree with you about the two state solution. What happened, happened and I don't think that people who say Israel should be gone is really productive either. I might have to pick at fight with you about the whole 'right to return' idea, because if you look at the history and say that, you could have whole groups of people saying that different parts of euorpe should be theirs because their ancestors were conquered here or there. Now, I am an atheist, and any reason for something being theirs because it was written in a book that proclaims to be the word of god to me is nonsense, whether it be judaism, christainity, islam, or scientology. With that being said, what's done is done, but I am sick and tried of hearing the previous arguments used to justify the continued aquisition of palestinian land.

 

At the same time, I think Palestinians need to granted their state soon because of the insidious tactics that the right wing employ there to further encrouch on their land. Soon there will be no Palestinian land! They slowly over time increase the settlements, in light of international law, to further take land. If you need some visual imagery of this just google "israeli palestinian map" on google images and see the difference from when the original bounderies were set up to how far they have been pushed back today.

 

The whole rocket issue is one thing, however one must ask how many palestininas are killed a year as well. I won't even get into the use of white phosphorous in populated areas and the blockade.

 

Ever heard of Norman Finkelstein? If not, I highly recommend him and many of his presentations are on youtube. I have had the opportunity to be in one of his presentations, (as well as Mads Gilbert, a doctor who was in the hospital during the recent gaza bombardment.) and it was very interesting. Watch one or two of those, and before you say he is anti-semetic, he is a jew who had lost parents in the holocaust. I even think he was barred from Israel becuase of his critism of Isreal in their ways of mistreating the Palestinians.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:12 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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I would like to take this moment to say: I obviously disagree with you on certain points, but you seem like a reasonable person who's thought these things out, so I can respect your views.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:58 | Link to Comment asdasmos
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Quiant. Even as you so diplomatically praised me, I cannot extend the same flattery to you.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:12 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Too bad.  That's the reason the comments aren't what they used to be.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:23 | Link to Comment asdasmos
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I guess if no one agrees with you, you have to disparage their view with subtlety.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 21:36 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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I wouldn't count you as utterly representative.  If you do, you should be able to see the problem.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 10:31 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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This is Fight Club you little faggot.  Either you come here to rock or go play pinochle with your grandmother.

The only reason the comments might suck in this case is because you're contributing.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 10:29 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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You're a world-class fool and an idiot to boot.  You haven't even the most basic information for formulating a cogent opinion on the Middle East, and here you are mooing like a pregnant cow.

You have nothing here to respond to, because it's like a 4th grader giving you a report on world history.  What is that 4th grader going to tell you that wasn't already dispelled and debunked in serious scholarly work?

About the nicest thing I can say about you is that you're a fucking idiot, which is one step above an absolute moron, but that maybe someday you might rise to the intellectual level of a dipshit.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 10:37 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Thank you for your considered replies, full of insults, sour grapes, and general ignorance hidden under a crust of nastiness.  You are proving my point. 

Sun, 02/20/2011 - 12:47 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Garbage In / Garbage Out

Give me something respectable to work with and maybe you might get a useful reply.

Keep throwing shit against the wall and maybe something might stick.  But someone else will come along soon enough to hose it off.

Sorry, your time is up.  You've had an entire evening and most of a morning to show your stuff, and the collective response seems to indicate a serious fail.

Thanks for playing.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:46 | Link to Comment treasurefish
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I have visited Debka.com frequently over the past 7-8 years.  I think a lot of it is probably true, but they embellish their stories too much to be useful on a practical basis (i.e. trading).   They thrive on the fear of Israelis being sandwitched between a whole lot of people who want to see their complete annihilation.  

 

With regards to the whole settlement issue, I know your question wasn't addressed to me, but everyone is entitled to my opinion....I have never understood why American and European communties are forced to accept new immigrants from other countries who don't necessarily share the same values, but Israel isn't.  Why does the US keep importing Muslims from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, etc. into historically Protestant and Catholic communities - especially after 9/11?  I don't have anything against Muslims, but it doesn't make any sense that our government is also supporting a two-state solution with the Palestine and Israel.  If we have to accept other cultures into our communities, and we are supporting Israel, then they should too.  

 

I guess this whole progressive "diversity in the workplace," "Equal Opportunity," and "Affirmative Action" crap is only good for the suckers who don't live in Israel.

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 19:50 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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"...but everyone is entitled to my opinion..."

All of us here certainly are, and thanks. ;-)

- Ned

Sat, 02/19/2011 - 20:04 | Link to Comment oygevalt
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Agreed, can't trade on Debka, but I do find useful to keep in the back of my mind if anything to confirm shows up.

On settlement, in a nutshell: Israel is 6 million Jews in the midst of 400 million Arabs.  I'm not arguing that the U.S. doesn't need to continuously re-evaluate policies, but I do argue that Jews in Israel face an immediate, existential threat that Protestants and Catholics in the U.S. do not.

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