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And to think that six months ago images of rioters throwing gasoline bombs at the police were enough to get Waddell and Reed to sell 20 ES contracts...
h/t RD
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How many times can a ceramic plate take a shot? Once isn't it, then it is broken? Body armor is just to make yourself feel better but in the final analysis, it , as you have stated won't stop any high velocity round. Check out these two lunatics over at Second Chance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaS_2l8nGdg
Don't forget that the plates (more than one) in that vest he's wearing HAVE TO weigh 30+pounds.
There is no 'body armor solution' to rifle rounds, period. There are people who were lucky enough to have a non-defective plate in the right place against non armor penetrating rifle rounds, though.
Troops issued the most optimal ceramic plate armor in hot climates often choose to not even wear it, because it's so damn heavy, and they figure their chances of surviving rifle fire are better being more agile than encumbered by all that weight.
Whether hit in your heart or femoral artery, you have about an equal chance of never rising again.
Besides being Level IV NIJ Certified, these plates are Level IV+ - the plus being MULTI-HIT capability. In independent lab tests they stop two to three of the .3006 AP (armor piercing) rounds instead of the one round required! (The actual number depends on how close the impacts are together). About 16 pounds for a pair (front and back).
http://www.bulletproofme.com/Body_Armor_Accessories_Rifle_Protection.shtml#Stand-Alone
You can get stuff from RUAG in any rifle caliber that slices right through that shit like toilet paper :)...
Well maybe you can. ZH has offices in Switzerland...
Nope.
Nope... No Swiss Office?
Here is a link to some us made and issued ammo that blows right though ANY level 4 plate:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m993.htm
Here is a page from RUAG that describes some ammo capabilities...
http://www.ruagcomponents.ch/en/Ammotec/Defence_and_Law_Enforcement/7.62...
If you look around, you can find vids of ammo tests against plates, glass etc... Not the BOT (although they are cool).
Plates are a waste of money unless you are planning offensive operations against unknown threat levels. Or you are planning to work in security. Otherwise why bother? If you need to get something, get a level 2a vest. and maybe some anti-stab plates. You can actually tolerate wearing it enough to make it worth having.
Buy Silver, Food, Medical supplies, etc... IMHO.
Check out this site:
http://www.survivalblog.com/
They have some good stuff.
Level IIIA against AK47: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot16_5.htm
That's just standard ball 7.62x39mm
I unfortunately don't have the time to post more right right now, but the armor chases the bullet.
Please stop spreading disinformation.
It's not disinformation in the least.
Like I said, if practicable, I would wear armor -Level IV in the face of rifle fire.
But I wouldn't feel safe, as all your posted links insinuate I would be, in the face of rifle fire.
I would wear it to increase my statistical odds of preventing a vital area kill and allow me to get the hell out of the hot zone.
And if the opposition had their shit together, even Level IV would offer an illusion of any protection.
Not just RUAG, either.
The best thing I can say about even level IV (portable) armor is that it's best designed to allow the person getting fired upon a better chance to make it to a level V armored vehicle or other suitable cover, without getting instantaneously killed by a vital hit.
That's not a bad thing to say, either; it's just that even level IV armor really only improves the chances of the one being fired upon to get out of the fight with the best chance of surival as possible in modern times. It is NOT designed to allow the one wearing the armor to advance in any sort of organized or strategic means.
So, yes, I'd take armor in such a situation if it were practical to wear. But I'd certainly want effective cover and wouln't be thinking about anything other than BUG OUT once rifle rounds started whizzing by.
7.62x39mm (not even 54mm) M993 round will defeat a NIJ Level IV plate backed by IIIA kevlar at 200 to 250 meters.
Then, of course, there's the M995 in 5.56.
If you want to know what the M995 will defeat, even when fired from a M4, do some research. Even troops in armored carriers are susceptible to it.
Headshots.
Helmets.
http://www.bulletproofme.com/Body_Armor_Accessories_Helmets.shtml
Face shields.
http://www.bulletproofme.com/Body_Armor_Accessories_Eye-Protection.shtml#Faceshield
Then there is this.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stryker_deployment.jpg
Try the failure drill.
It has historically proven to be most effective.
Depends on the plate.
The best ones today are made of Dyneema. It is very light and thin.
It can take multiple high velocity hits with mild steel core ammo.
To defeat general purpose AP the Boro-Silcate plates (heavy) will work. The better ones are multi-hit capable (like 4 hits within 6 inches of eachother) and can withstand most AP ammo.
There is an industry dedicated to armor defeat (RUAG and others) that make "special" ammunition that can poke through any man portable armor systems using normal small arms. They also have special rounds designed to penetrate up to 12" of bullet resistant glass and related composites.
That is all I know about it. :)
Spot on man... .308 doesn't care. Also, limbs are damn near always vulnerable. It's not like on the movies, where you stoically smoke a cigarette while someone ties off your stump. It's called the stop, drop and flop. It's tough on morale, too.
Standard SAPI plates stop multiple .308 rounds.
For extremities, there is always Celox or Quick Clot.
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2006/10/29/extremely-graphic-pigs-femoral-cut-174479
What about the family jewels?
They got "it" covered.
http://www.bulletproofme.com/Body_Armor_Accessories_Concealable.shtml#Groin-Protectors
I have a hard sapi groin plate... If you want it, i'd let it go for 40$.
just the plate. its a V shape that has a curve to it.
Some monkeys owns good handguns like the SW 44 Mag. Bad, body armor or not.
Any centerfire rifle cartiridge will blow right through both sides of a IIIa vest (with truama plate installed)
They are not designed to stop or slow a rifle bullet.
Best defense is to NOT be shot at. Second best is to not be hit. Ballistic Vests etc.. are to help "stack" odds in your favor when dealing with unknown threats. They are not as much of a comfort as one might think when in actual use. They do make it easier to pull your body along once you are toast though.. So if you have friends, consider getting one with a handle.
Rifle/ballistic plates stop rifle rounds. They are often worn with a soft kevlar vest. Trauma plates are also often worn with a soft kevlar vest to stop blunt trauma to the sternum such as a punch, shotgun blast, or a knife. Understand the difference, amigo?
I of course agree that the best defense is to not be shot at.
Understand the difference, amigo?
I sure hope so. I use em.
I used to carry some hard plates (AKA Chicken Plates).. Not worth it IMHO.
You can't wear 'em like soft armor, so they sit in a trunk, which is where they will be when you get shot at with a rifle.
My Main strategy is to avoid being shot at... So's to avoid being shot!
I like giving "surprises" not getting them... I am a very giving person in that respect. :)
But, hey really... I'd be down if you considered me an Amigo.
Regards,
Thanatos
bees, wasps and sugar water. Old eggs and dogshit. This is war! Yes!
dead fish and used oil. Unfriendly as hell but no permanent damage.
Most soft armor is made of Kevlar, with some spectra (dyneema) fibers being used now too.
Kevlar is heat/flame "resistant" to about 750 F. Spectra is much less heat resistant.
The guy inside it however is not flame "resistant" and fluids have a real nasty way of running inside all your clothing when they get on you...
So yes, flammables alone as solvents are damaging to the fibers. Ignited flammables are much more damaging.
More of a problem as body armor was designed to be struck by a bullet not attacked with flaming solvents.
+1
Hundreds did in 1992.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_gXrKlD1WI
If you think either the cops in Greece or other Euro countries are especially non-violent, you are the typical ignorant Ameritard.
As for your question, sometimes to conceal one's ID it is best to leave some things unanswered.
But my question to you, HPD (tuff sounding name, dood) is:
Do you know where your vagina is???
I think throwing fire bombs at police is wrong. I mean afterall, they are just some guys out there stuck in the middle. Throwing fire bombs at the banks, now then, is just what the doctor ordered. But if anybody ever gets a good shot in on some cop , he could get seriously hurt and this will do nothing but turn up the cop anger, a notch unnecessarily.
While I agree that lobbing firebombs at police (!!!!) is unlikely to garner their support, they are hardly just some guys 'stuck' in the middle. They have made a choice too.
Referee..
Yeah, the monthly paiements choice. Most are goldless stupid ass.
Well the local banker really does not have much power. They are your neighbors, and friends. Most have no connection to the PDs, or even the bigger banks in the FED system. They are peons, and they do NOT have a monopoly on state force. I agree it is not wise to take on the state, but not because they are some guy stuck in the middle. The days of Andy and Barney are long gone. Now it is shaven headed 250 lb guys in black with shades to shield their eyes (and humanity) driving around in mean looking black painted cars. If they are not the ultimate poster boy of where we are going, I cannot think of one. But they certainly are not just "in the middle."
pods
Perhaps...but most coppers are damn piss-poor union members.
On the other hand, I hope you aren't seriously suggesting something like using model blimps or dirigibles, fitted with plastique, and remotely-controlled to fly into the upper floors of buildings hosting board of directors' meetings regarding JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, BofA, Blackstone Group, KKR, Fortress, Citadel, .....?
!
Wow, just when I thought it was still safe to pick on the RC-Model nerds!
http://www.paintballsentry.com/
Gets more dangerous every day!
Agreed. Even the WTO protests in Toronto a few months back - they were quite pacifist in nature (minus a burned squad car - whoop-dee-doo)
Squad car … Which some suspect, the cops may have had a hand in … similar to the fishy pictures of the masked – jack - booted thugs in Montreal that showed a certain group causing a ruckus. Manufactured descent sucks. Get real … buy gold & silver Hanover Fiste.
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+1370
This may be the real story behind the USAF blocking access to major news sites--don't want the guys controlling the drones to feel any kind of connection or sympathy with the guys they're killing.
Gotta maintain the us v them scam . . . even on the streets of our own cities.
Ahh yes, fear, that keeps the masses in check... for now...
"Ahh yes, fear, that keeps the masses in check... for now..."
exactly...more binding than a cell or chains...when r some gonna step off the plantation...
Chilling video.
The WTO riots in Seattle showed law enforcement's inability to control mass protests.
In the Seattle Mardi Gras riots, police actually withdrew under orders - even as someone was killed in the violence.
The police will not be willing to risk themselves on behalf of the bankers. Things will get interesting...
If the crowds are large enough and pissed-off enough, the police will not intervene. Haven't you seen Police Academy?
No, but I saw Rodney King , 1992. The cops stayed in the stations.
All I am saying is , if you get out there, you had better bring what you got and bring it all. It is time to shit or get off the pot when you commit to this action. No turning back. It is all or nothing, at least here in the states.
I don't think it's lack of ability to control the crowd so much as lack of desire. I look at the video and think billy clubs, water cannons and rubber bullets are what's needed. It seems to me that Molotov cocktails should be met with irresistible force.
ah check 1,2...
americans aint got jobs, homes, or money to buy food but guess what we got n abundance???
Blammers....fuck the police...
We got no food, no jobs... our PETS' HEADS ARE FALLING OFF!
Oh damn, that made me laugh soda out my nose!
are you shittin? The US news mafia won't even show these clips on the nightly news - just some fluffed up cheerleader in front of a fucking mall breathlessly reporting how the holiday shopping is WAY ahead of last year, hip hip fucking hooray
When Wolf Blitzer is panicking in his 'Situation Room' because the armed mob has just broken through the plate glass and security it won't seem so impossible or even unlikely.
"The first thing we do is...shave Blitzer's beard."
I'd watch his show for that episode but that's about it
People that get pissed enough to do that here will break out rifles and other assorted tools of mayhem before using gas bombs.
Gas bombs are what you use when you don't have real weapons.
Young people (I would say kids) use fuel bombs, for many reasons. Fuel bombs are cheap, quick to manufacture and hard to trace. They can't afford weapons and might not have any way to store them securely until needed. And fuel bombs don't really kill anyone, just create a lot of damage.
Mature adults absolutely intend to kill people and use conventional weapons. They own them, can afford them, and usually are not worried about storage.
It will become real shooting with real bullets when the adults get involved. The adults get involved when either their kids are being killed, or they are being pushed off an economic cliff.
Might come to that. We'll see.
wait till they take off the velvet glove to reveal the iron fist
You mean the paper mache fist.
No one, and I mean no one, is going to protect the banksters when it starts.
paper ponzi scheme unraveling.
Truth shining down as a bolt from the heavens. This light will fire the country, and burn the system to ashe.
Not sure about the system. Homes and shops will burn, the system is above that. Certainly in a physical sense. The system in question is not a building. It is not a bank vault. It is a way of life.
The French knew how you get rid of an entire system. You decapitate it one oligarch at a time. The knowledge of how to plunder -- and the neuro-chemical pleasures so derived -- then die with the brain that embraced them.
Then we agree. System soon to be done with.
But notice: Decapitation is an adult activity. The system will fall when the adults have had enough, not their kids. Until the adults show up it's a lot of smoke and noise. Not slamming the kids, this is simply not their task.
Interesting observation cougar. Adults are also people with the maximum buy-in for the system. Adults accrue the most benefits even if kids have the most fun. Your point is interesting thanks.
Wow... that's some serious stuff...
Friggin A.
The demonstrators have tear gas, too?
Live and learn
It is real
Looks like fire extinguishers, good idea. Anyone know who the dude was at the very end of the clip? Just random banker or someone important that got beat up?
Makes you wonder if, when the riots come here, whether the simple act of wearing a suit will link you to being a bankster and a target.
I wouldn't want to be strolling down that street in my Boss 3-pc, armani attache case in one hand, sipping on starbucks latte LOL
history shows very clearly that when TSHF mob rule will not exercise much discretion
Yeah... About that...
Get yourself a book backpack and keep it in the boot of your car or at your office.
In this bag you will keep:
1 baggy pair of jeans
1 Black Hoodie
sturdy and comfortable shoes (day hikers)
Bandana (stay away from red and blue - Norteno/SUR issues there.
couple of 1 liter bottles of water
glasses... You need em. flying shit is everywhere.
work gloves.
Get the feck out of that suit ASAP and get into your street garb... Avoiding the crowds will be fairly easy when you look like them.
Wet down the bandanna and put it over your face for teargas issues.
Wear gloves... If you get knocked down there will be glass and busted shit everywhere... DOnt want to get cut.
Glasses keep you from rubbing your eyes too... which is a good thing.
Unless things get real crazy a typical riot loses steam in about 4-6 hrs.
You can "sneak" back in and get your nice 780I or whatever then.
Hey man, I am availible for consulting if you are really concerned.
I guess I am concerned that anyone who knows anything about finance or economics will become a target of the ignorant mob... Once that mob gets going, it is utterly stupid as you can picture. They are not able to discriminate between a Gold investor and Banker as easily as those here can.
BBC says it was former conservative minister Kostis Hatzidakis
I think a few Irish politicians are wishing for a re-vote on that bailout package.
People justice beware politicians. Even the judicial and police can't protect you from this. This is why the media here is controlled, they don't want you to realize that you have any power. U.S. politicians need some exposure to this to realize that they will be held accountable for not representing the people.
Umm... If you are going to be carrying, lighting and throwing molotov cocktails you should have a Fire Extinuisher on hand.
Jeez... Don't you folks know how to have a Proper Riot?
Here... Get an Education:
http://www.ruckus.org/section.php?id=82
Bear spray
http://www.bearicuda.com/bear-safety/bear_pepper_spray.php
dup
Yes, but it was better than expected!
Who would have thought 20 years ago we would be depending on Russian news agencies to get us some honest information about whats going on in the world?
Surely not me. I cannot believe what has happened to this once great country.
agreed.
amazing point
I've been thinking that for awhile now. RT does great stuff...you know as long as it isn't critical of Mother Russia.
Seriously though, it's crazy that RT is an honest news source compared to US MSM news. Sad, sad, double sad.
The thing I like the best about the RT riot coverage is no commentary just footage.
RT is phony. They have the same 3 guests on everyday.
They are bought and paid for by the United States "Military-Industrial Complex"
Just trying to bluff and use it against people like you. (serious, folks)
Wow, they sure staged that whole event really really well. Honestly, I believed it was actual video of Greek Riot Violence. Amazing cinema la clef. Thanks for the heads up. I can't wait to see it at the Cannes.
Ireland feisty, hell yeah. IRA they got weapons!
I have to say I'm a little surprized how they've revealed themselves to be nothing but chumps.
Just wait. I have no doubt the Irish people will get very uppity indeed. They kinda never stopped fighting that whole British domination thing...for like 500 years. The only reason they chilled out is because things got materially better, things are about to get a lot worse.
I feel like I just watched a G-rated version of US circa 2011/12. Scary stuff.
As soon as sheeple turn off Dancing with the Stars and Glee you'll see the incursions across America. Big Cities, small schools, barbershops . . . oh wait, that happened yesterday - all across America.
The fella in Florida last night just may indicate what may be coming state side. If one of these hopeless nothing to lose peasants breaks into a banker meeting it may just finally have the crims believing the great heist has come to an end.
http://newsone.com/nation/newsonestaff2/clay-duke-facebook-suicide-note-...
School board meeting shooting rampages may even erupt...oh wait they did yesterday.
News today that Greece still burns (what is in a name!) and Ireland may shortly join them. The political but economic squeeze is coming from East and West now. It is surely to join the middle of the continent in ashes.
Being over here on the fairy island across the Atlantic, I have very little ability to know what is going on in Europe. I am curios to hear the stories of the people there. If anyone could, please share with me the thoughts, concerns, opinions, and actions that Europeans have and will take, I would be obliged.
See, the IRA is going to get a catalyst here, politically speaking.
Watch and see how the Irish middle that got anally raped by the insiders react very soon when they can't even afford their Guinness.
Anyone who believes this is approaching a crest is delusional.
It's just begun. They'll see. We'll all see.
Well said. If I lived there I would be pissing Guiness every day come hell or high water.
I agree the IRA may end up making a couple power plays soon to exploit the chaos and the disorder. They never disarmed just "put a few things away."
Who was the guy at the end getting dragged out? I'm waiting for American's to pull that maneuver on Capitol Hill.
yes who was that?
Leo does this resemble those jubliant parties you were referring to this summer?
Leo is trying to grab a couple molotov cocktails so he can fuel up his Vespa and get the hell out of there!
I imagine Leo's margin calls are keeping him indisposed.
Tyler, I can tell you **WITHOUT A DOUBT** that these police units have orders *NOT* to engage, nor to protect. Simply to form a malleable buffer & not allow anyone into Parliament etc. Never seen the MAT behave this way.
**NEVER**
**EVER**
Unquestionably not allowed to engage. You could tell. But they also seemed vastly outnumbered, especially when 15 or so of them are huddled together getting Molotov cocktails thrown at them.
If they engage they know the real violene comes the next day. No way out of this.
Yup yup. You can be trapped by your own violence if you are not willing to roll it out.
The game is over in Greece. A bit more of this and the police union bails and the Greek capitol folds up.
Sovereign default for the win.
Then on to Ireland.
That will last as long as a rioter doesn't shot to death a policeman.
Then the fun begins.
Tyler knows that the cooking time projection for a frozen dinner
is always too optimistic.
Have you not heard - A Santa Claus Rally ignores all bad news
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emLFQ0tA6Lw
ouzos been drunk; I can smell it...drink some more, ben is offering
And just imagine....tens of millions of American 'plebes' have firearms.
Everyone being armed might be the thing that stops the shooting from happening.
It's really romantic thinking about taking up arms and taking to the streets, but once you get hit, and your bowels evacuate, and there you lay on the pavement soaking in your own blood, urine, and excrement, you can quite imagine that the romance quickly fades.
Proud gun owner. Prouder still that I have never had cause to point it at another human being.
Some people will die, most people won't.
Them as won't then will not because the game will be rapidly over.
The first US civil war had political leaders, economies and respective armies on both sides before the shooting even started. This civil war will not; the banksters got nothing and apart from small merc militias -- will not. A week of street-level fighting and it will be done. The police will fold, the Army will stand down on Constitutional grounds, and then the hunt begins.
France in 1799 won't be even the half of it.
Who cares? Sit back and enjoy a Samuel Adams Boston Lager (ticker: SAM). Apparently everyone else is.
This and the post above it: firearms and liquor. Got to love the combination.
Where it all started the first time...where it starts again...
Resistance regardless of outcome!
Earth and water bitches
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmOH5f1J1Uc&feature=related
Who is nose bleed at the end?
My guess is finance minister.
Ponzi markets look to be heading red on these molotov shoots.
Some big monie don't like the Tax cuts. China presumably.
Well I'm sure Ben has a plan for bonds rates going higher and losing us more in a day than he is digitizing in Pomo.
QE #...?
Right, although the Great Bernank's plan is going exactly opposite to plan Im sure he has a plan for that. WTF are these people thinking? QE IS a failure, and theres no answer for it! Not yet another QE failure, nothin!
Bernank's average IQ is only the reflection of your corrupted State.
now if only the citizens here could grow some balls and question whether they really enjoy getting screwed over and over again, maybe we could start to bring the financial rape of this generation and many to follow to a fucking end....
Amazon just emailed me a 60% off toys advertisement...
Riots, what Riots?
The guy running around with a fire extinguisher... cop gone rogue?
He was spraying the primers of tear gas canisters.
Expand please? The primers are external and can be put out with a dry extinguisher..
Oh My God Forgive them for they know not what they do (Bankers).
Meanwhile the Bankers sit in their ivory towers collecting 144 Billion in Bonuses for all of the mahem and problems they have created.
Massive World Starvation will be next. How much do they make on Commodity Futures to starve a World Population? A Billion? 10 Billion?
I just wish that anything that they buy with the Money made destroying the World Economy brings them as much pain as they have caused. Karma.
Bob Marley wrote a very good song(actually a few of them)-
Crazy Baldhead
Them crazy, them crazy -
We gonna chase those crazy
Baldheads out of town;
Chase those crazy baldheads
Out of our town.
I'n'I build a cabin;
I'n'I plant the corn;
Didn't my people before me
Slave for this country?
Now you look me with that scorn,
Then you eat up all my corn.
We gonna chase those crazy -
Chase them crazy -
Chase those crazy baldheads out of town!
---
/Scat singing/
---
Build your penitentiary, we build your schools,
Brainwash education to make us the fools.
Hate is your reward for our love,
Telling us of your God above.
We gonna chase those crazy -
Chase those crazy bunkheads -
Chase those crazy baldheads out of the town!
---
/Instrumental break/
---
We gonna chase those crazy -
Chase those crazy bunkheads -
Chase those crazy baldheads out of the town!
Here comes the conman
Coming with his con plan.
We won't take no bribe;
We've got [to] stay alive.
We gonna chase those crazy -
Chase those crazy baldheads -
Chase those crazy baldheads out of the town.
Hmm, sounds like an enemy combatant to me.
Tomorrow you're homeless.
Tonight it's a blast.
<Applause> Great timing on the Jello/DK's quote.
I recall seeing an interview with Jello recently where he said something on the order of "everything seems normal until some guy launches an RPG through the window" or some such thing.
I'd love to see it or hear it if you happen to recall where or when.
Cat = 93 after printing new high at 94.33, if it closes below 91.5 itis a Reversal Day and that might be the Fat Lady taking a bow.
I have been watching Cat make its gains for years. You think this is it? Industry needs CAT (so say the Major Banks via loans), and there is demand, isn't there?
Yes there are more deep underground bunkers to be finished for the elite.
Mr. Lennon,
I just go by the charts, yesterdays low was 91.51 so a close below there would Techincally be a Reversal Day. Volume is good now and I imagine it will be sufficient at 4pm. Have a good one.
I'm having a great year, yes. Thanks for noticing.
cat
I'm not going to sell all my SPY puts just minutes before the flash crash this time either.
LOL! Thinking along the same lines, my idea is to buy a few SPY calls, thus guaranteed to set it all into freefall on that move!
don't see this happening here, too much division and too many asleep. Hell look at unemployed and underemployed, not even a wimper. That and the media is good at glossing over real issues.
Dont see riots happening here? Hell review some Black Friday videos...moron america will riot and trample each other to death over 20% off a video game....NOW go empty the store shelves due to high fuel trucker strike.
Theyre all still rolling in Gubment checks and food stamps, TV still on and new IApp purchased. All is well, until the second it isnt.
You can always tell the younguns' round here.
Hell, I have been shot at trying to get gasoline herein this great country.
Never think it can't come down in the twinkle(glint) of an eye.
Apparently you have not been around south-central Los Angeles much. For over 30 years there are areas the cops will not go. Streets have permanent barricades so no cars may pass. Look what happens when the Lakers win big games or not to mention the infamous Mr. R. King.
One most people have not heard of was during the Northridge quake. Felt like a war zone. Had the warehouse open till noon but closed and we got out of dodge...
They don't just use rocks, no they shoot you on site. I've seen it. When it does get bad. It will be something for the history books I think.
IMF Bankers one Country at a time taking over the World. Taking away Soverenty from the Countries in Debt. America may be the last but they will eventually lose their Soverenty too. Especially with all of the Money printing from Bennie Boy just playing into their hands.
Do you honestly believe Ben will allow the markets to fall? The whole world is going to crap and if our market falls we will have war. He cannot let it fall. He may fail but will crash the dollar trying.
Right...and as long as the fake 'stock markets' appear ok, thats all that matters as most americans are too fuckin dumb to know any better. Hell they can all be in a cardboard box but if they hear the DOW is up +10 its all good. Yea...this stupidity will really work well for an extended period of time yea right.
Ben will destroy the world's economies but that doesn't mean the stock market will fall. If he hyperinflates the market could soar. If you are in high leverage futures you might actually be able to keep up with inflation but be sure to use some of the profits to buy PMs.
That gasoline throwing is looking ever-more expensive with $90+ oil.