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Video Of Jet Shot Down Over Benghazi, Unclear Whose As Gaddafi Claims He Is Holding To Ceasefire Terms

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A dramatic video of a Libyan jet being shut down over Libya has been captured and is making the rounds in the YouTube-sphere. As the Independent observes, "A warplane was today shot down outside the opposition stronghold of Benghazi, as international leaders including David Cameron gathered in Paris to make final preparations to impose a no-fly zone over Libya. The jet was observed over the city for some time before reportedly going down in flames, amid the sound of artillery and gunfire. " Yet what is surprisingly and potentially surreal is the stiff insistence by the Libyan government that they continue to preserve the terms of the ceasefire announced yesterday: "Libyan authorities insisted that their forces were holding to a ceasefire announced yesterday and repeated an invitation for international observers to enter the country today to monitor it. Deputy foreign minister Khaled Kaim told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "The ceasefire is real, credible and solid. We are willing to receive observers as soon as possible, even today." Rebel sources claim that military assaults by forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi on cities including Benghazi, Misrata and Ajdabiya continued even after the ceasefire announcement." Which begs the question: is Gaddafi really an idiot, or are these merely false flag provocations by the rebel alliance (with or without the assistance of France) to encourage an escalation? The answer should be promptly revealed once it is determined just who was flying the downed jet. We are confident the media will first investigate such an answer before jumping to conclusions.


And false flag or not, the French waste no time to confirm that by No Fly Zone, the UN also means a land-based intervention as well.

French war planes destroyed four Libyan tanks in air strikes to the south west of the Libyan city of Benghazi on Saturday, Al Jazeera television reported, quoting sources.

Earlier, the first shot in a UN-mandated intervention in Libya was fired by a French aircraft and destroyed a military vehicle at around 1645 GMT, French defense ministry and army officials said.

"A first target was engaged and destroyed," ministry spokesman Laurent Teisseire told reporters.

An armed forces spokesman told the same briefing that the operation to halt Muammar Gaddafi's advance on rebel forces involved around 20 planes and an area 100 km by 150 km (60 by 100 miles) around the eastern rebel stronghold of Benghazi.

France's Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier will leave France for Libya on Sunday, the spokesman added. A central command center for the operation was still being set up.

Earlier Saturday, French President Nicolas Sarkozy announced that Western air forces, with Arab League approval, had gone into action over Libya and were preventing Gaddafi's forces from attacking Benghazi.

We are confident that Sarkozy at el will also waste no time in also ensuring complete air and land dominance over the Ivory Coast next, where the regime of deranged dictator Gbagbo continues to kill citizens left and right in what some claim is a manifestation of a far more violent civil war than Libya.



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Sat, 03/19/2011 - 14:54 | 1075953 Deepskyy
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And yet again TD hits the airwaves first before the LSM gets the story.


Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:03 | 1076209 What does it al...
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1.  The plane is from the Rebels

2.  Khaddfy is smarter than US, and even more so than Hosni, if it escalates, it will be bloddy.  (He has been in power for 40 years!, lunatic, he might be.)

3.  Watch German, China, Russia and even Brazil not voting with this...  

4.  North Korea will never give up their nukes now..

5.  Where are the Japan Nuclear news?  People die and people lives, Nuclear Radiation is forever...

6.  The hypocrisy of our policy toward Bahrain, Yemen and Syria...  At least made up a fear factor like a WMD and take one for the team like Bush did...  

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:50 | 1076441 AnonymousAnarchist
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Yeah. Every report I've found say it was a rebel jet. I can't find any that claim it was one of Gaddafi's.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:15 | 1076544 AnonymousAnarchist
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Al Jazeera just confirmed it was a rebel jet and it was also shot down by the rebels by "mistake".

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:33 | 1079042 What does it al...
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Saturday morning, around 6am EST, every one was saying that it was a Goddafi / Kahdaffi / Gaddafhy 's jet.  Which was quite a startling sight.  They never bother to change it.  

For all we know, the French shot it down... and making it a REAL no-fly-zone.

How ironic...

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:22 | 1076567 SparkyvonBellagio
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It's like TD is the Re-incarnation of Walter Cronkite.



Sat, 03/19/2011 - 14:55 | 1075955 Cognitive Dissonance
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That's one for the bad good someone tell me which side God is on? Or at least which side is just and honorable. OK, I'll settle for "legal".

You know what, just tell me when to cheer and how much to put in the hat when it's passed around.

/sarcasm in case it's not clear.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:07 | 1076002 cossack55
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The belt buckles on one side say" We die for Allah" while the patches on the uniforms of the other side say "We kill for Allah". The third side has "God is Peace" on their helmets and the fourth(?) side has "We love to tread" on their boots.  I'll just root for the Packers, thanx.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:25 | 1076053 Misean
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Damned cheese head! The Stealers would have won but for bought out officiating!


Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:14 | 1076278 What does it al...
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Too bad we might not have a NFL season...  Think about it, we are about to enter war, (or damn close) with some dictator that we can't even spell...


I can never forget the 2008 game between giants and patriots...


Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:04 | 1076499 PY-129-20
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And I certainly won't forget the 2012 game between bankers and patriots

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:24 | 1079045 What does it al...
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Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:52 | 1076182 SuperRay
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"/sarcasm in case it's not clear."


geez, that ruined the whole post by insulting my intelligence.  What a Debbie Downer...

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:12 | 1076280 Cognitive Dissonance
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A year ago I could write that and everyone on ZH would know it was sarcasm. Today without the sarcasm tag it would certainly get 6 junks and two nasty comments by people who wouldn't know humor or sarcasm if they tripped over it. It is a sign of the times and of ZH's popularity. It is what it is, so now I use the /sarc tag.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:55 | 1076455 Clamdigger
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Long form or short form, I always enjoy your contributions to this site, CD. Thank you for keeping it real.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:34 | 1076640 Cognitive Dissonance
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I think I just found my other fan. :>)

Thank you for your kind words and encouragement. It really does help to keep me going sometimes. So thanks.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:14 | 1076536 Dr. Porkchop
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These are the diminishing returns of technology.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 03:56 | 1078108 e_goldstein
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your first mistake is assuming there is a "God."

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 14:56 | 1075958 M4570D0N
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Is ZH going to acknowledge in this post that this was a rebel jet shot down by Gaddafi forces, not one of Gaddafi's jets shot down by the French?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 14:58 | 1075973 Tyler Durden
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Absolutely. Do you have a link/proof?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:29 | 1076066 BigJim
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Don't be absurd. Look CLOSELY at the plane. It's CLEARLY a Lockheed T-33 Shooting Star. So this was yet another Iranian provocation - breaking the UN no-fly resolution!

When will Israel liberate us from this deadly threat to our peace and freedom?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:52 | 1076163 What does it al...
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Bear in mind, the no-fly-zone resolution was done YESTERDAY!  This is a REBEL plane up in the air TODAY!  There are reports that this wasn't even shot down, but rather out of fuel, or even shot down by the rebels.


I believe no one, not the French, Rebels, Khaddfy, Qaddfi, Qadafy, or USA. 


It is ALL BS!

There is no way to convince Kim Jong Il or his son to abandon Nuclear Weapons now.  Look at Libya.  If I have a regime, I am keeping my big baby...

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:23 | 1076333 TonyV
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Don't be ridiculous. NK would have never abandoned nuclear weapons, no matter what.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:16 | 1076548 Dr. Porkchop
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You thing I gowna abandon nucrear weapon now? You clazy! I now inlease!


   - Kim out

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:22 | 1076577 UGrev
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Mig-23. But thanks for the chuckle and the ounce of sarcasm :)

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 03:57 | 1078110 e_goldstein
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go smoke another bowl and turn Alex Jones up WAY loud :-/

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:15 | 1075996 asdasmos
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Rebel says own plane downed over Benghazi (downed their own plane?)

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:35 | 1076090 prophet
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Yup, saw that too.  TD note also the time stamp at 12:46 EDT.  If you need donates to beef up your feeds and screens I would guess that there are more than a few who would consider it.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:23 | 1076048 Careless Whisper
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@ M457

and are you going to acknowledge that barry's basketball brackets are 29/32 ? well, are ya?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:48 | 1076147 Tyler Durden
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The proof requested was as to who had shot down the jet.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:54 | 1076184 What does it al...
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The jet was in violation of the no-fly-zone, so according to U.N. resolution, it shouldn't be on the air...  So anybody can shoot it down, right?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:11 | 1076521 prophet
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"The fighter jet that was brought down this morning, was a revolutionary fighter jet and was hit by mistake. There is no communication on the ground," said Sharif, head of the British-Libyan Solidarity Campaign."

I took this "mistake" to mean they shot it down, but it could also be read as ambiguous.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:25 | 1076587 UGrev
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I concur. Mistake = "ooops.. sorry, my bad"

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:34 | 1076652 Cognitive Dissonance
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Well as several people have already said, it is a no fly zone after all.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:41 | 1076669 UGrev
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Lord knows, Libya has flies.. wish I could get some of them there missile thingies during the summer time for those skeeters :p

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:50 | 1076696 Cognitive Dissonance
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Way back mother always referred to "the skeeter problem" as if she were talking about "the commie problem" or "those stupid politicians".

She was a devoted Kool-Aid drinker. But that was the left-right, good-bad, black-white conditioning back then. Not much different today for many.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 18:29 | 1076839 UGrev
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hehe.. we're showing our age aren't we (as in both of us). Those damn skeeters..they're like commies; all over the place as my father would say. I have to give them (the brain washers) credit. They had me for a while and they're pretty good at what they do. Which is why, when the SHTF, I really don't want to be in general population. I don't think I have enough

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:43 | 1076413 dearth vader
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It seems even more bizarre, as European media are now suggesting the downed jet to have been a rebel aircraft hit by friendly, i.e. rebel fire.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:06 | 1076508 QQQBall
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Problem solved. The rebels shot themselves down.


Probably the first hit since the war started. Ha! ;0


Sarcasm off/

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 18:50 | 1076909 cbaba
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Really, and you believe it ?

Where is their airbase, how many aircrafts do they have, why did they asked a no-fly zone ?





Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:10 | 1079011 sun tzu
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They admitted it was their own plane. The rebels aren't a bunch of civilians with pitchforks and torches. Some of the Libyan military defected.


They didn't ask for a no-fly zone. They wanted the West to get rid of Gaddhafi.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:05 | 1075998 spanish inquisition
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I am betting it was the French shooting down a

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:40 | 1076674 dark pools of soros
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good for the economy..  demolished jet theory..   Ben says to keep shooting everything down

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:28 | 1079060 What does it al...
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It is not being followed by the MSM, but it is a no-fly-zone.  and the FIRST hit was their own rebel jet...  I guess this cease fire thing is real...  NO-FLY-ZONE it is!

A small (getting bigger) part of me thinks that all of this is pre-arranged...  Gaddafi knows what was coming and the "coaliation" gave him time to prepare...  

It's all a show... 

The only thing, no body ever thought... at least manufacture, is the earthquake/tsunami/nuclear radiation... But it's been a busy 10 days, that is for sure!

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:08 | 1076003 Thepnr
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I agree, Al Jazheera reported more than 6 hours ago that it was believed to be a rebel jet shot down by loyalist Gaddafi forces. It is also possible that it has been shot down by rebels (friendly fire) as they were using anti aircraft guns at the same time.

Truth is we don't know all the facts but the chances of it being shot down by the French are virtually Nil. Didn't take the French long to broadcast to the world via their defence ministry about their taking out of Libyan tanks not a peep about the plane.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:15 | 1076031 Stuart
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the rebels have jets?   ok, that's a new one.  What's next, the Japanese reactors are going to have a nuclear explosion.... rhetorical question.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:25 | 1076055 justtotaketheedgeoff
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Several Libyan pilots flew their aircraft to Malta early on and defected.  One of them  perhaps?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:27 | 1076062 blindman
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do the rebels have nukes?  they seem to be progressing,

technologically, at a very rapid pace.  what else do they

have that they have been keeping secret?   i don't know

if we can trust these particular rebels.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:43 | 1076115 jesse livermoore
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The story I read earlier said it was a rebel plane.. the story said they only had one plane ?  did not say how they got it ...  very confusing story...

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:47 | 1076138 Worker Bee
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So if the "rebels" are flying in a no fly we shoot them down too?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:26 | 1076598 UGrev
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That's a good question, but I'm pretty sure it means any agressor's aircraft. 

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 18:52 | 1076916 cbaba
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Why do you believe everything said by the media ?

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:12 | 1079019 sun tzu
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Why do you believe Gaddhafi is a bad guy? Was it from media reports?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:46 | 1076133 umop episdn
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I also find it interesting that all dem gubbermints decided to 'intervene' as soon as these particular rebels lost control of the oil infrastructure.

False Flag, bitchez!

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 18:46 | 1076891 cbaba
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You proof first that rebels have an airport, airplanes and suddenly their plane is shot.

The news come from Sky news reporter from Tripoli which is based under Gaddafis control.


""Sky's Lisa Holland, reporting from the Libyan capital of Tripoli under restrictions...."



Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:16 | 1079025 sun tzu
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Hey dummy, Benghazi has an airport.  The rebels are in control of Benghazi. Many Libyan military members defected early on. Put your two brain cells together. It's not that impossible that they have more than pitchforks and torches. How do you think they drove Gaddhafi forces out of so many cities early on? It wasn't with knives and fists.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 14:55 | 1075960 kengland
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I would love to see this happen in the US. I keep waiting for all of these "hunters" with guns to supposedly start something when their own turn against them. Well, your brothers just busted down the door of NotHaus and you sit there with your thumbs up your ass waiting.

Not that I'm going to run out against the biggest military in the world. You'd have to be an idiot. However 6 months ago, everyone here assured each other that as soon as they went against their own they would get to it.


Yeah right

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 14:58 | 1075970 HamyWanger
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Don't expect Montana rednecks to start any time soon a rebellion. They are too busy talking about it. 

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:23 | 1079046 sun tzu
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The inbred liberals like Al Gore and 0bama keep talking about carbon credits while blowing methane gas out of their mouths

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:11 | 1076016 cossack55
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How do you figure Nothaus is a brother to "hunters".  One thing you may learn from the Chinese is patience.  Why stop the TPTB from destroying themselves. I'll just hang around and pick up the pieces. 

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:09 | 1076251 chumbawamba
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Bide your time.  The play will start soon enough.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:27 | 1079038 sun tzu
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I keep waiting for all these envirowacko nuts that rail about corporations to stop using electricity from coal, nuclear power, oil used to produce plastic, and fuel sold by corporations. They assure us that they only want green energy and a pure environment.

Yeah right


BTW - that was a nice stretch trying  to link gun rights to the US bombing of Libya. You would be a perfect propagandist for Bernanke.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 14:56 | 1075964 Oh regional Indian
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Wow! The french have really lost it. Can one man's compensation for his miserable height and other assorted issues really take us down like this? I know, it's more than that.

Where is the "not in my name" movement now?

7 years on and the world is tired, drooping, TV addicted, Earthquake shell-shocked.

Sheep to the slaughter. 

The backlash will be fearsome, count on it.


Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:29 | 1076355 TonyV
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Interesting. I was thinking along the same lines about his height. But then it occurred to me that Napoleon was even shorter, and he almost took over the world.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 14:59 | 1075971 pigpen
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CD, I love your daily comments as they bring a hearty smile to my otherwise skeptical existence. 

Kudos to your wit, sarcasm and unfiltered honesty.



Sat, 03/19/2011 - 14:58 | 1075975 Zombie Investor
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Since they are enforcing a "no fly zone", am I to assume that the Libyans have flying tanks?  Sweet.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:11 | 1076021 cossack55
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Damn good point.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:12 | 1076028 Lord Welligton
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Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:02 | 1075983 Long-John-Silver
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I don't believe the French will actually get it's Aircraft carrier away from it's pier and move it to Libya under it's own power. It's Aircraft Carrier program has been a disaster from day one.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:03 | 1075989 pigpen
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Tyler, change headline please from shut to SHOT.


Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:23 | 1076052 cosmictrainwreck
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dude! SOB was shut down, wasn't he?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:13 | 1076026 Stuart
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Hypocrisy is a fair claim but do not rationalize that just because you don't intervene everywhere you should not at least intervene anywhere. 

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:21 | 1076038 blindman
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the rebels have an air force?  what is this,

the rebels have an air force?  where did the rebels

get an air force?  they go from burning themselves

in the street to flying military jets in one months


just last week all they had were squirrel rifles?

what does george galloway have to say about this

mess, i wonder.

this one story has put me back to square one on this thing.

who bought the rebels an air force? 

Should we intervene in Libya?

With talk of intervention in Libya growing, George Galloway argues against British involvement, while Conservative MP Mark Pritchard says inaction is not an option. Susanna Rustin adjudicates

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:05 | 1076497 Hicham
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Go do some research before spouting rubbish. The 'air force' that the rebels has is only made up of a planes that defected from towns the rebels seized. They also have tanks (!!) from military defectors as well.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 20:52 | 1077238 blindman
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@ " .. planes that defected from towns.."

where did you learn this?  i find it curious.  ( spouting rubbish ).

please clarify/sharpen your point.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:19 | 1076042 Thepnr
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From the BBC earlier today:

  1. 1154 hrs: Libyan rebels have acknowledged the plane which crashed in flames in Benghazi early on Saturday belonged to them and it was shot down by Col Gaddafi's forces.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:19 | 1076043 Ahmeexnal
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Where are the french protesters who marched against U.S. intervention in Iraq? Why aren't they protesting now?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:23 | 1076054 Zombie Investor
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Where are the American protesters?  Gitmo is still open and the U.S. has ramped up the troops in Afghanistan since 2008, yet the protesters have disappeared. 

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:43 | 1076114 AnAnonymous
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Cigarette thin differences between the two...

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:46 | 1076132 jesse livermoore
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Obama and democrats employ the jedi mind trick.........................these are not the droids yuor looking for...........

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:45 | 1076137 Blano
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They're on spring break in Wisconsin.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:23 | 1076049 spekulatn
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How the fuck do you say "NO BLOOD FOR OIL" in french?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:27 | 1076061 spekulatn
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Got it.


Pas de sang pour du pétrole!

Pas de sang pour du pétrole!

Pas de sang pour du pétrole!

Pas de sang pour du pétrole!

Pas de sang pour du pétrole!

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:09 | 1076249 bob_dabolina
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Drill baby drill?

-Sean Hannity

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:23 | 1076057 Thepnr
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The "air force" of the rebels is most likely pilots from Ghaddafi's air force who defected taking their planes with them. Maybe I should have said plane as that was probably their only one along with one helicopter gunship they are said to have "made fit for service".

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:29 | 1076067 blindman
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so this genius decides to take his stolen plane for a ride

into a u.n. no fly zone.  got it.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:35 | 1076087 Convolved Man
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Victory lap.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 20:50 | 1077229 blindman
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@ "victory lap"


 some love the smell of burning

jet fuel in the after life.


Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:10 | 1076266 serotonindumptruck
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Perhaps this pilot was in communication with UN forces. He may have been acting as a willing decoy or agreed to draw fire from Gadhaffi's forces. It would be important to establish who the "good" guys are from the "bad".


Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:28 | 1079063 sun tzu
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Perhaps the genius was attacking Gaddhafi forces and got shot down. 

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:28 | 1076068 Threeggg
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Why don't they just find out what bunker the Khadaff is in and just kill him. This would be over with a few "Shock and Awe" bunker busters and we can get back to business.

The 15-ton behemoth — called the 'massive ordnance penetrator,' or MOP — will be the largest non-nuclear bomb in the U.S. arsenal and will carry 5,300 pounds of explosives.

Read more:

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:40 | 1076113 Convolved Man
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He will deliver his next rambling diatribe from the Angelina Jolie Home for Libyan Orphans in Tripoli, surrounded by small children holding flowers and singing praises to his greatness.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:28 | 1076610 UGrev
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The Military channel wouldn't be able to tell stories about the ground battles then. That doesn't make for an interesting line-up of programming.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:47 | 1076691 dark pools of soros
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you need to play a whole season and make a lot of money on this before you bother with declaring a winner..   actually its just the money, no one needs to win except the ones selling the weapons

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:31 | 1076078 johny2
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The present version is that it was the rebels own jet, shot by rebels themselves and on this video cheered as it falls with shouts of "Alah Akbaar". It shows a war exactly as it is, a time where truth becomes even harder to see than usually. Both of these sides are intent on revenge, and it is difficult to see this ending quickly. French just got sucked in.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:46 | 1076144 BetTheHouse
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Awesome.  The rebels shot down their only plane.  What a clusterfuck. 

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:21 | 1076315 cosmictrainwreck
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"friendly fire"....happens to crack troops...what ya expect here?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:16 | 1076300 SilverIsKing
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You stole my profile picture.  Not cool.  Do you work for the FED?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 18:01 | 1076738 johny2
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It is a coincidence that we have both liked this picture enough to put as the avatar. Are you stupid to really think somebody stole it from you ( or that you own it )?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 20:56 | 1077248 blindman
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one of you should just make the color yellow or gold.

that would be good.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 01:41 | 1077953 SilverIsKing
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You answered my question.  Thanks Ben.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 08:04 | 1078231 johny2
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And you answered my question too...well done for a dummie like you.

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 13:31 | 1079065 sun tzu
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Chill. I think he was joking

Sun, 03/20/2011 - 15:51 | 1079377 johny2
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I hope so. No way to tell, is there?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:34 | 1076080 Threeggg
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America just fired cruise missiles from subs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:36 | 1076091 AN0NYM0US
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The United States is prepared to "defend its allies flying over Libyan airspace and enforce the no-fly zone," the official said.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:50 | 1076699 dark pools of soros
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is their an accountant on the ground that has to approve each missile being shot??  where is the austerity!!!

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:35 | 1076094 blindman
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my ignorance talking here, let us hear...

the rebels don't have aircraft.  period.

the rebels don't have anti aircraft weapons.  period.

now figure out what happened starting there and know

what you read and see is a lie.  good luck

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:05 | 1076141 Golden monkey
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Listen do this, gentleman. We assure you that the "Allah Akbar" is true. Or even better, go ask him, blind sheeple.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:59 | 1076205 Golden monkey
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And remember, before the unrest, Lybia was a peaceful place...

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:36 | 1076097 Ben Probanke
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yep , the missiles are fallign on tripoli

* Loud Blasts Heard East Of Libyan Capital Tripoli - Witnesses

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:39 | 1076105 AN0NYM0US
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Colin Powell from his book


"“As soon as they tell me it’s limited, it means they do not care whether you achieve a result or not. As soon as they tell me ‘surgical,’ I head for the bunker.”

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:40 | 1076101 Ahmeexnal
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And to keep german sheeple distracted, they just had Knut "die":

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:42 | 1076110 Ben Probanke
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Blasts Heard East Of Tripoli - Witnesses
  TRIPOLI (AFP)--Several loud blasts were heard east of the Libyan capital of Tripoli Saturday
evening and balls of fire could be seen on the horizon, witnesses told AFP. 
 3 submarines sending all they got... french planes back to france while the missiles fly

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:40 | 1076112 malek
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I'm confused.
Since when does enforcing a NF include attacking tanks and military vehicles on the ground?


Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:43 | 1076126 Misean
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Pretty much since the Orwellian concept was invented.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:44 | 1076128 AnAnonymous
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It is a US world order, expect duplicity at every turn.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:47 | 1076140 prophet
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See the resolution.  Its about protecting (unarmed?) civilians.  It rules out ground forces.  No fly zone is just a catch phrase. 

New global exclusion zone.  No government shall be allowed to murder its own unarmed citizens.  How quaint.  

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:55 | 1076196 prophet
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lil slow, here is a link to the full resolution

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:01 | 1076221 prophet
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and for all you legal eagles out there, I guess the courts will have to sort out whether a member of an armed "resistance" is a civilian

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:30 | 1076362 AnAnonymous
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Already done. They are illegal combatants.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:13 | 1076540 prophet
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Okay, so now the UN is defending illiegal combatants?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:56 | 1076721 dark pools of soros
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they are defending Big Oil interests..  that is their only sponsor

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:43 | 1076116 prophet
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Strategically I can understand Libya, but avoiding another Biafra and stepping up stability around Nigeria is a an equally good use of French forces.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:43 | 1076118 Threeggg
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US fired cruise missiles confirmed...............

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:14 | 1076546 QQQBall
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Wow! 112 crusie missiles- serious shit!

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 17:57 | 1076725 dark pools of soros
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quick what other pensions can we drop to pay for more missiles!!??

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:42 | 1076120 surfsup
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Any serious no fly zone will impliment AA surpession as a component  -- once a radar is turned on its show time.   Once that is cleared out then they can run a cap with no worries about AA.  

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:48 | 1076145 kaiserhoff
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One of the many well deserved..., ahem, reputations of the French, is that they can't be bothered to squawk the right frequencies or check for transponders, codes, and such.  This will get messy.  I think it already has, or maybe as the church lady liked to say "What a coincidink!"

Where are the Guidos?  Don't they have their panties in a knot over Libya?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 15:52 | 1076159 Convolved Man
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Muammar Gaddaf's Note to Self;

Next time, need to declare that I will protect the Libyan oil wells with the blood of my family... and offer 10..., no, a 20% discount on a barrel of oil to buyers from France.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:21 | 1076328 SilverIsKing
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The "good guys" need to accelerate their plan of attack before the dollar loses all of its value.

BTW, does Gaddafi have a blog?  If not, he can surely use one right about now.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 16:42 | 1076407 Drag Racer
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here is the video

hard to tell if it was hit by a missle or AA round. though the turbine kept up power and aircraft was hit in the center igniting the fuel tank behind the pilot suggesting AA as a heat seaker many times will take the tubine out

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 18:12 | 1076775 dark pools of soros
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that's some nicely pruned trees there

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 18:00 | 1076735 dark pools of soros
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when are 'Qaddafi supporters' going to be switched to insurgents??  this is so phony - no wonder Sheen thinks he can do road tour..  what effort is needed these days for the sheeple?

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 19:22 | 1077026 tony bonn
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"Which begs the question: is Gaddafi really an idiot, or are these merely false flag provocations by the rebel alliance (with or without the assistance of France) to encourage an escalation?"

this is precisely the right thing i have learned from my years as a media savant - to be confused with idiot savant - is that the media is heavily manipulated and intentionally lies....sometimes even when they don't intend to lie, they lie because they are dupes in games bigger than they could ever hope to play.

as repulsive as qadaffi is, i am not so sure that seeing is believing....i smell the heavy trench-foot laden foot of the cia in so much of this....

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 20:28 | 1077185 Bose Einstein OracIe
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The rebs shot their own mig down? Cmon guys, you are gonna have to get your shit together if you are to even have a chance.....

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 21:24 | 1077322 Lord Koos
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Qadaffi is a liar of major proportions.  One of his ministers recently affirmed that Qadaffi personally ordered the Lockerbie bombing... so he's also a bonafide terrorist, at least by the west's definition.


Sat, 03/19/2011 - 23:39 | 1077529 PulauHantu29
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Wait a minute, where does Jimmy the Greek stand on this?


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