Video Of Tsunami Smashing Into Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant; Reactor 1 Radiation Counter "Breaks" After Reporting 100 Sieverts/Hour

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Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:12 | 1153386 bob_dabolina
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This is the kinda shit that makes me wanna rush out and just buy stocks.

-Citadel Algo

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:20 | 1153404 Kyle Reese
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I wonder where N. Korea is building their nukes in relation to the ocean..  

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:20 | 1153412 Oh regional Indian
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Distraction Display. Now you watch this video so you will not notice that Daini is actually also in trouble. And by the by, pay no attention to the insider article that says that all this song and dance might be hiding the fact that a massive, secret Atomic Bomb making program just might have been going on underneath the cover of clean safe nuclear power.

If only radioactivity was as slow release as the truth in these times eh?

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/04/09/crashing-stars-they-were-but-chimeras/

 

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:58 | 1153484 Jim in MN
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I think it's to distract from the admission that units 5 and 6 were immersed in seawater--which was not previously known.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:10 | 1153515 Oh regional Indian
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Interesting Jim. Might also have somethign to do with Onagawa issues?

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/08_20.html

And since the industry cannot catch a break:

india's very own Kaiga Nuke Power plant hsa a shut down today:

http://www.inewsone.com/2011/04/09/fire-alarm-forces-kaiga-n-power-unit-shutdown/42276

And a leedle action in WA state, courtesy hydrogen...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/08/nuclear-usa-plant-idUSN0810220...

 

And in continuing Nuclear wierdness, shooting deaths on the UK's major Nuclear Sub, the Astute:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/8439401/HMS-Astute-shooting-Nuclear-submarine-guard-kills-officer-in-rifle-rampage.html

Very trippy, I think. Runaway reactions abound...

ORI

 

 

 

 

 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 01:46 | 1156872 Element
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Yes, I noticed that when they said they were going to 'decommision' 4 reactors, a while back ... I knew 5 and 6 were stuffed as well ... sea water and partial meltdown of both cores. The whole plant is screwed, and they still won't just say it.

And still no word on the seawater flooded shared SFP pool Cog-Dis mentioned ... like weeks ago.

By the way ... what do you do with rods covered in mud-silt and salt?

You can't put them in another pond ... with 'clean' fuel rods ... one bad apple 'n all that

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:09 | 1153509 trav7777
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are you an idiot?

Japan is known to have 100,000kg of plutonium laying around, and perhaps 300,000kg stored elsewhere in the world for them.

The mechanics of the implosion device are not in any way a technical challenge for this nation.

They have been a de facto nuclear weapons State for decades.  WTF would they need to hide?

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 15:54 | 1153716 Banjo
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trav7777: No one is suggesting lack of technical competence. The is about Japan having the nuclear weapons made, assembled and ready to be delivered.

The significance is on a world stage telling people:

  • They (Japan) don't have a bomb

  • Their (Japan) nuclear program is for peace only

  • We (Japan) are against nuclear weapons look what happend to us in WWII

  • Other countries can't have nuclear weapons e.g. North Korea (look we're peaceful intent only)

  • Other countries are really scary and dangerous (Saddam's Iraq) and need regime change.

If you have a nuclear arsenal then it's a bit more difficult to credibly posture and pontificate about peace, nuclear power and being against nuclear proliferation.

 

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 16:43 | 1153812 Fish Gone Bad
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Other countries are really scary and dangerous (Saddam's Iraq) and need regime change.

That is really funny.  I am thinking that those "other countries" think that about "us".

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 18:20 | 1153926 malikai
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I would assume that plutonium is from purex of high burnup fuel. They should technically have a hard time making a usable weapon out of it with the high pu240 amounts within it.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 20:16 | 1154055 XPolemic
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They have been a de facto nuclear weapons State for decades.  WTF would they need to hide?

You mean other than a violation of their post-war McCarthur constitution?

Or being an atomic power with a history of aggressive expansion on the North Asian peninsular?

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 21:09 | 1154154 TerraHertz
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OMG yes, no country would ever blatantly violate the terms or intent of their venerated Constitution!

Apart from that, yeah, I always wondered why Japan felt the need to accumulate such a massive amount of plutonium. Wasn't the claim that they were laying in a stock for future use in power reactors, as the energy crisis worsens?

And yet they apparently dragged their heels a long time before using MOX fuel at Fukushima.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 01:52 | 1156874 Element
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No need to junk that, he's 100% correct, the Japanese can build a nuke any time that want, so can several other states, Australia is one of them, and it doesn't even take a reactor and reprocessing if you have super efficent Laser enrichment tech.

These munitions are very over-rated though.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:24 | 1153418 Dan The Man
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are they just keeping the distraction alive here?

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 15:53 | 1153712 Till Eulenspiegel
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My thoughts exactly. Yesterday we had a report that reactor #1 already lost its primary cooling cycle due to the earthquake (i.e. the nuclear disaster was already in progress before the Tsunami hit), and today they suddenly decide to release footage of the Tsunami.

Honi soit qui mal y pense

 

 

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:26 | 1153428 americanspirit
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Y'all sure sound like homegrown terrorists to me. I mean, casting aspersions, expressing doubt and even, heaven forbid, mocking the competency of the authorities. Get out the goddamn list - we have some names to add!

BTW - TEPCO has already been involved in at least one major US nuke - the South Texas Nuclear Project, that sits pretty much on the Gulf of Mexico. And no seawall. But since when do hurricanes generate 10 meter waves? Oh, wait ...

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:41 | 1153455 Ident 7777 economy
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 TEPCO has already been involved in at least one major US nuke - the South Texas Nuclear Project,

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Debunked - they are investing, not necessarily operating - see:

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/video-tsunami-smashing-fukushima-nuclea...

 

 

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 18:24 | 1153938 Rula Lenska
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You "debunked" nothing.  Investing is involvement; AS never said anything about operating--you did.  Are all your friends straw men?

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 05:04 | 1154599 BlackholeDivestment
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Friendly note: There are many things I can tell you about getting out ''The List'' http://bible.cc/revelation/20-15.htm http://bible.cc/deuteronomy/5-11.htm I assure you, the things you now see (notice the words ''great earthquakes'' http://bible.cc/luke/21-11.htm http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21&version=KJV ) upon this generation are well defined, and in the days http://bible.cc/matthew/24-37.htm and few years to come, these things which you are now seeing shall increase with intensity and frequency. http://bible.cc/1_thessalonians/5-3.htm 

In short, you may want to rethink how you speak, after all, if someone used your name as a sware word you may get pissed a bit. Let us speak with regard, after all, we are not animals. Just sayin, cuz I love yuh man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FT4FprxDg&feature=related

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:27 | 1153429 divide_by_zero
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Reactor 1 pressure has been constantly rising for awhile now, the Nitrogen purge seems last ditch-ish

http://atmc.jp/plant/vessel/?n=1

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:01 | 1153493 A Man without Q...
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TEPCO tries to enclose high radiation in sea in nuke crisis

TOKYO, April 10, Kyodo

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/84290.html

This latest plan seems bound to end in failure...

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:33 | 1153439 americanspirit
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"The South Texas Project is about 29 feet above sea level, spokesman Buddy Eller said, and appears capable of withstanding extreme storm events that are most likely for the region.

A study looking at the possible impacts of a combined Category 5 hurricane storm surge and a 100-year flood on the Colorado River that runs adjacent to the plant site found water levels would rise to just under 28 feet.

The plant also has three separate, redundant diesel back-up systems to run all of its onsite systems, including the reactor cooling. They're located in steel-reinforced concrete buildings designed to withstand hurricanes and storm surges, said Eller."

Whew - that's better. I feel much safer now, living a few hundred miles downwind of this - er - safe monster.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:52 | 1153459 HungrySeagull
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One simple Texas Reply to the Authorities who think it's high enough.

 

"Bullshit"

 

If I want to build a nuke, it will be located 150 feet up MSL and protected by 70 foot walls of the type that is being built across NOLA to break up the waves and ease the pounding.

I recall a Military Dot Com Video taken from a Nimitz Class Carrier somewhere in the area during a storm recently taking green water over the flight deck in the fore and experiencing water on and over the bridge itself high up in the air while the movement on all three axis was rather extreme makes me wonder if they had to reduce speed to keep the props stable when they come out of the sea.

 

One more thing. I would either get out of the nuke business or spend the money and over build the plant to withstand 200+ mph winds for a long time. That way no tornado or hurricane in the holly wood's wildest movie imagination can ever destroy it.

 

Maybe we get another 9.0 in the area and the following 50 foot wave swamp the entire FUKU plant and spare us all the trouble of cleanup pernamently since these wussies dont have teh balls to nuclear weapons demo the place.

 

One more thing.

 

Instead of Oil Rigs and Gas Rigs that Float into the Sea miles and miles from land, why not start putting Nuclear Plants out there too? That way if they ever get hot, cut the chains and let em sink.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 17:45 | 1153886 Zardinuk
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They have nuclear power plants that dont depend on water, just gas turbines. Those seem better for inland anyways because water is getting scarce, the long term costs of nuclear sometimes need to factor in water.

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 06:37 | 1154627 Bicycle Repairman
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"the long term costs of nuclear sometimes need to factor in water."

The long term costs and the costs of catastrophes are not factored in for nuclear power.  If this were done they would never be built.

Nuclear power is the ultimate in "kicking the can" and "rolling the dice".

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:27 | 1153552 Whoa Dammit
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All is well.The South Texas Project has been engineered against storms utilizing the big penis (about 12 inches) safety standard margin. <sarcasm>

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:54 | 1153471 Drag Racer
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1:10 of the video they zoom in to the water inlet of #2 reactor. I see water vapor from where they had the leak. If water from that trench/tunnel is that hot so far away from the reactor, then they have big problems, or should I say we have big problems.

I know they are talking about #3 when they zoom in but if you look at an arial view of the facility you will see it is definitely #2 we are looking at.

The radiation rise of #1 is a concern as right after the 7.1 aftershock they reported a rapid temp rise. I wonder if the containment vessel has so much water in it the inertia from the quake was too much for the supports and caused some of the piping or something else to rupture worse that before.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:55 | 1153475 UncleFurker
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$10 says they'll use MOX too.

Plutonium. The "good" radiation.

 

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:56 | 1153477 Jim in MN
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From NHK:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/09_30.html

"TEPCO confirmed that the 6 reactors at Fukushima Daiichi power plant had been under as much as 5 meters of water."

But 5 and 6 are fine, just fine....Shit, if I had to admit that I'd release the catastrophic video I'd been saving for such an occasion too.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 21:41 | 1154205 TerraHertz
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In the aerial shots, it looks like 5 & 6 are built on somewhat higher ground. The water damage around them is not as extensive.

As for 1 to 4, I pointed out from the first digitalglobe images that there's an inclined road going up the embankment at the rear of the Sth end of the site. From the mud line on that road you can see the water level at the rear of the reactor buildings was at least 3 meters. Also the big roller doors on the seaward side of the turbine halls are pushed in to several meters height.

So this is 'non news'. Which means there probably is something important happening tht they wish to draw attention away from.

I'd guess that is probably the massive spike in radiation in the drywell of #1. What are the chances criticality is occuring in the drywell? Which is actually the 'currently full of no-boron seawater and core-melt rubble well', if I understand correctly.

Criticality and produced pressure pulses in the 'drywell' would explain why the radiation readings from there have suddenly stopped after the huge spike. Sensor destroyed, by heat, pressure, corrosion, radiation, salt water, or combination.

Is there any fluid circulation plumbing to the drywell? If there isn't, how to get boron into there? It's not like opening the big pressure door is feasible.

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 00:57 | 1154467 Jim in MN
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On 5 & 6 being immersed, I was just going with what TEPCO said.  Like that's been such a great idea.

There are only so many sets of plumbing that can be dealt with at one unit.  No nothing like that for the drywell.  At least no 'circulation' as would be in a proper cooling cycle. 

You'd have to hope boron (and water) would travel the same route any core materials did.  Just stick it in the core and see what happens. 

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 13:57 | 1153481 Ancona
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We had all better pray that these people get these cores cool and stable. If they melt down, and in to the water table or ocean, it could be an extinction level event.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:09 | 1153513 avonaltendorf
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Local, not global.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:10 | 1153514 trav7777
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good god, STFU

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 18:37 | 1153958 Rula Lenska
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Why don't you STFU; otherwise, make a constructive comment if you disagree.  Even a "drive by junk", lame as that is, is better than the useless clutter you just created.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:43 | 1153575 BigJim
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Why?

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 17:54 | 1153894 Zardinuk
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Maybe not extinction level but that would definiely cause some deaths and cancerous growths, perhaps ruin the island of Japan. It could set off economies, destabilize nations and stuff but exctinction is probably a stretch. We'll make it through this.

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 06:41 | 1154631 Bicycle Repairman
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Have elevated levels of cesium been detected in American tap water and milk already, or not?  This little "drama" is going to go on for months.  It is clear that no immediate action is going to be taken to remedy this situation.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:10 | 1153500 AN0NYM0US
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headline of the day (actually tomorrow)

Reuters

TEPCO apologises to Japan, neighbours over radiation

 

TOKYO, April 10 (Reuters) - A Japanese power company executive apologised for spreading radiation into the air and sea...

 

"I would like to apologise from my heart over the worries and troubles we are causing for society due to the release of radiological materials into the atmosphere and sea water," Sakae Muto, a TEPCO vice president, said on Saturday.

"We caused worry and trouble for having made this decision without taking sufficient time to explain the matter beforehand to those involved, to the press, to the fishing industry and to people overseas, and we are sorry for this," he added.

 


Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:13 | 1153517 trav7777
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typical asian bullshit...the fretting over "worry" and "trouble."  This is why people don't speak up in consensus building sessions.  Don't complain, don't cause trouble.

You see the same shit out of China in official notices advising people NOT to cause any trouble to local authorities over the toxic waste pouring out of every waterway and toxic smog blanketing the land.  Fuck disease, death, mutant children; worry and trouble (inconvenience) are what matter.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:14 | 1153518 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Day late, dollar short. It is a little too late to save face.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:45 | 1153583 AG BCN
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Yet they will still be at the Yasukuni with the

Uyuku Dantai.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 15:18 | 1153644 Pchelar
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Maybe they could grap this crazy ol' bastard and put him in charge of TEPCO, seems like a "can-do" kind of guy for a Japanese...

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/03/japan.tsunami.captain/index....

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:17 | 1153530 Bastiat
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Radiation Detected In Drinking Water In 13 More US Cities, Cesium-137 In Vermont Milk 

For food: "The EPA maximum contaminant level is 3.0 (for Cesium 137 or Iodine 131), but this is a conservative standard designed to minimize exposure over a lifetime,"  Here are some precip number, note Boise; Boston not so good either:

Precipitation

In the data released Friday, iodine-131 was found in rainwater samples from the following locations:

  • Salt Lake City, UT collected 3/17: 8.1
  • Boston, MA collected 3/22: 92
  • Montgomery, Alabama collected 3/30: 3.7
  • Boise, ID collected 3/27: 390

As reported above, the Boise sample also contained 42 pC/m3 of Cesium-134, and 36 of Cesium-137.

http://goo.gl/NaEyy

 

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:45 | 1153579 BigJim
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I wonder what they'd find if they started testing for Uranium and Plutonium?

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:49 | 1153590 giocatoli
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Bastiat, your cited link at goo.g is a worm.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 15:45 | 1153701 Bastiat
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Hm, works for me on a cut and paste and neither Kaspersky nor Barracuda sees a worm.    But here's the full URL:   http://blogs.forbes.com/jeffmcmahon/2011/04/09/radiation-detected-in-drinking-water-in-13-more-us-cities-cesium-137-in-vermont-milk/

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:50 | 1153598 TheMerryPrankster
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stock up on beer, make sure you buy the oldest best by date. Beer is mostly water, just like humans. I like mine without so much radioactive iodine and cesium, prefer hops and barley.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 16:45 | 1153818 malek
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Does that mean you should not drink rain water in those places by the m3 (cubic meter)?

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:28 | 1153555 JackES
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I hope I can see Japan island sink in my lifetime.

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