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VIX Has Biggest Term Jump Since March Lows

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An indication of just how overbought the market may be is the recent sudden move by the VIX index, which over the past several days has undergone the biggest periodic move since the March market lows. The nearly 36% move in the VIX is the sharpest retracement in over 7 months. Whether it will subsequently drop form here as the S&P tests the 50 Day MA support level will likely be seen tomorrow once the latest GDP data is released.




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Wed, 10/28/2009 - 13:22 | Link to Comment desk-jockey
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I'm setting my stops, man. Uncle Goldy revised his GDP estimate *downward* today - you know what THAT means - it's gonna come in around that, take a dip and then SKYROCKET, screwing the bears one final, glorious time before all hell breaks loose in 1Q10.....balee'DAT.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 13:53 | Link to Comment geopol
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I'm setting my stops, man.

Good idea,,,,I've never observed markets like this in my lifetime, which is considerable,, Feel like a staggering drunk in a minefield. And that includes foreign markets as well as everything is beginning to quiver. Time to keep you powder dry and hope the DXY 36.34 ^ doesn't crash overnight.

 

Man this is murder

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 13:55 | Link to Comment desk-jockey
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gawd hep meh - been burned so many times - dont know whether to load up shorts or stock up on FAS.  UNGHHHHHH.....

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 10/28/2009 - 15:27 | Link to Comment geopol
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Hey guru,

 

When the VIX went up, that's what I did....got out

 

Thanx for the deep tip. I feel so disciplined now

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 16:02 | Link to Comment desk-jockey
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oh warnie, i dint know you were a ZH reader!!  your secret is safe with me.  I can has some of your billions, ya know, since you're the ultimate trader and all?

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 19:08 | Link to Comment Stoploss
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Fuck you in your ignorant ass ANON.  Crawl back under your rock.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 13:24 | Link to Comment Enkidu
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GDP has been released - 2.7!

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 13:29 | Link to Comment Bam_Man
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A three year-old looking at that chart could tell you the VIX is still in a downtrend.

This more than likely is just a set-up for yet another (and possibly the last) bear trap.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 13:34 | Link to Comment digalert
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*newsflash* CNBC: America pessimistic on economy? whaaat?

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 13:41 | Link to Comment geopol
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CNBS Foggy Bottom

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 13:36 | Link to Comment rhinotrader
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Let me guess...Najerian boys are short.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 13:46 | Link to Comment overbet
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Look at the divergence between the actual Vix and the etf VXX. Would you call that tracking error or slight negative correlation?!?!

 

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:04 | Link to Comment R. Wilson
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VXX tracks SP 500 VIX short term futures index.  Don't think it would be possible to actually track the VIX.  S&P website has info on the index, and the VXX ETN actually tracks the index pretty well.

And it's tough as hell to trade VXX.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:03 | Link to Comment THE MOGUL
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Play this stuff with the VIX ETF

http://etfdailynews.com/blog/?tag=vix

 

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:09 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 10/28/2009 - 15:48 | Link to Comment Paper or plastic
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     Good thinking. I was about to post the same thing. Wouldn't hurt GS to be wrong, and show their critics they don't have an inside line.

 

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:10 | Link to Comment Brett in Manhattan
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The movement of the Dow has really understated the magnitude of this recent selloff. A few high priced stocks like MCD, KO, WMT have propping up DJIA, but, the're have been a lot of stocks in the 20-30 billion mkt cap range that have taken 20-30% hits.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:34 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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What are your thoughts on this if we have a longer term sell-off?  Do you think the DOW will play catch-up with the S&P and NASDAQ?  Do you think the DOW is being propped up by a "flight to quality" or something?

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Brett in Manhattan
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The s&p and nasdaq will always be somewhat more volatile than the dow because the stocks on the latter are huge caps which take more to move. 

The recent price action we've seen on the dow is common at the end of a rally. Stocks that have lagged during the rally make a charge which masks the fact that the leaders have begun to retreat.

 

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 10/28/2009 - 15:05 | Link to Comment Brett in Manhattan
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It's still very important in shaping investor psychology. On the evening news, you never hear about the naz or s&p, just the dow.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 16:44 | Link to Comment Green Sharts
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Not only is the Dow just 30 stocks, but the index is price weighted so that high priced component stocks like IBM have a disproportionate impact relative to components with low prices per share like GE.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:38 | Link to Comment walküre
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The promo is officially finished.

No more "green shoots" or "recovery" PR for a while guys.

Time to cash in the chips. No matter what the name of the so called "asset" (equity) is.

 

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Brett in Manhattan
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I can see another run up to unload the stops that were triggered during this selloff.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 16:43 | Link to Comment walküre
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Sure, there might be the off chance that Cramer's mantra of buying the dips might find an audience.

Let them jack oil back to $85, I'll be buying DTO.

EEV is looking good. Short emerg. markets. Shanghai riverboaters will jump ship soon.

 

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:39 | Link to Comment mdtrader
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Through 1050 on SPX can't see any worthwhile support until 1030.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 16:44 | Link to Comment walküre
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I can't see any support above 900 to be honest.

The pump was too much, too fast.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:42 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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pigs are flying boys and girls - cramer "may" just have capitulated.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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Amusingly, the little bounces in the SPX this week occur mostly when BAC approaches $15 (anything under $15.10 generally gets a tiny market rebound).

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=BAC#chart2:symbol=bac;range=5d;compare=^gspc;indicator=split+volume;charttype=candlestick;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:46 | Link to Comment TraderMark
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Snipped from Timmy Geithner's daily calendar (allegedly) 15 minutes ago

Phone coversation with Dick Bove

Timmy: I need you to upgrade Wells Fargo on CNBC

Dick: But... but... I just upgraded then downgraded them in a 4 hour span, and caught flack for it.

Timmy: I know Dick but you need to take one for the team... Team USA.You know you move markets, and one perfectly placed Dick Bove upgrade on CNBC Entertainment TeeVee is what we need here.

Dick: But really, I'm on my 9th job in the past 8 years, I am running out of firms to lose my credibility at.

Timmy: Don't make me call Larry.

Dick: ok, you win.  Schedule me.

 

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Plainview
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Personally, I'm short a god damn TON of Vega, expecting some channel trading into the Holiday ...so I hope it dwindles lower again.

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 16:15 | Link to Comment time123
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Excellent observation. This is a telling sign that this is more than the 3-5% corrections we have been getting over the last 7 months. But I believe by using timing signals one is able to profit both from the upside and downside of this market.

time123

P.S. I get my timing signals at http://invetrics.com

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 16:15 | Link to Comment rhinotrader
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You can buy options on the Vix. Low volume, wide spreads etc..etc..

Wed, 10/28/2009 - 21:42 | Link to Comment Grand Supercycle
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VIX daily chart bullish warnings continue.

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