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VWAP No More?

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While in the past VWAP was the traditional strange attractor for intraday price convergence, today marked a stark difference, indicating that either i) whoever was trading did not use any VWAP algos to accumulate/dispose of block positions, or that, ii) [and in keeping with i)], most orders were routed to dark pools. However, take away FNM, FRE, and Citi, and there were basically no large blocks. One wonders just how much trading in the fab five f*@&#d financials occured in dark pools over the course of not just today, but the past week: if one were to add dark pool volume to what we know accounted for 25% of the total NYSE volume, the result would likely be a shock.

At least Goldman's REDI and Sonar are booking some solid cash.

Also, just in case you thought anyone traded during regular market hours anymore, the chart below should be quite eye opening.




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Mon, 08/24/2009 - 18:24 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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While lots of stocks were smoked today,

Riverboaters "made their year" dryhumping this low grade hooker today.

Up 41% on record volume.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 18:28 | Link to Comment capitalisa
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What a strikingly beautiful woman!

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 18:31 | Link to Comment deadhead
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i was just about to post what a slacker you are robo....some of us ARE unemployed and we loser types don't have a lot to look forward to every day, you know? 

thanks for cheering me up. 

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 18:48 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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+1!

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 23:31 | Link to Comment artcash (not verified)
Mon, 08/24/2009 - 18:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/24/2009 - 18:33 | Link to Comment deadhead
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TD said: Also, just in case you thought anyone traded during regular market hours anymore, the chart below should be quite eye opening.

I would love to hear more commentary from ZH and ZHers about AH trading and some of the things that are going on. Thanks in advance.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 18:53 | Link to Comment AnonymousMonetarist
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August 18, 2009
Phillip Davis
Seeking Alpha

Anyway, so the after-hours markets were flat but the ubiquitous futures market took off as soon as all the retail traders had their trading accounts turned off for the night. You would have thought something huge was happening to watch the relentless, nonstop, 3-hour climb in the Dow, the Nasdaq, the S&P and even the Russell futures that led into the Asian open. Did this blatant manipulation of the indexes fool Asian investors? Of course it did! The Nikkei opened at 8pm EST and had gapped down to 10,200, exactly 4% off the high of 10,620 on Friday. As I said to members in yesterday’s chat, that 4% line is critical in the follow-through day on the 5% rule as it represents our expected bounce off 5%, so holding that line is still bullish.

Well, never let it be said that Mr. Stick doesn’t know how to paint a bullish picture. The Nikkei was rescued from failing that 4% line by the relentless futures buying between 8pm and 10:30, which coincided with 9am to 11:30 on the Nikkei, which just so happens to be when they close for lunch. What happened at 11:30 Tokyo time? Well, suddenly everyone lost interest in the US futures and they fell ALL THE WAY BACK to where they started, in just 60 minutes. Please, Congress, whatever you do, don’t look into this nonsense - better to just sit there in your little offices and say "the market forces are too complicated for me to understand" and let 12 people control the world, that’s what America’s all about, right?

So, where was I? Oh yes, manipulative BS! Of course, coming back from lunch and seeing that the US futures had nose-dived sent the Nikkei right back to 10,200, but there was another way to prop up the Nikkei and that would be a dollar rally against the Yen. The dollar had already been jacked up from 94.37 Yen at the Nikkei’s open to 94.75 at lunch but, at 12:31, the minute the Nikkei reopened, the Dollar began flying up all the way to 95.30, which rallied exporters and lifted the Nikkei 100 points into the close. After the Nikkei closed, the Dollar fell back to 94.9 Yen - mission accomplished, time to rest.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 19:59 | Link to Comment deadhead
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Thank you.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 18:51 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Juggle all the shorts and longs until you get a Full House hand then deal. Poker's fun!!!

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 18:54 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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So we can assume that actual price discover is done in the dark pools at night? Why that would make the market a farce, wouldn't it? Shocking.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 19:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/24/2009 - 20:00 | Link to Comment deadhead
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nope....Grateful Dead: "And we bid you goodnight"

 

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 19:01 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/24/2009 - 21:12 | Link to Comment MikeNYC
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At least he's not another freakin Goldman alum.

I'll take a union guy over a goddamn banker.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 19:43 | Link to Comment Sancho Ponzi
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It looks as if WOPR reversed polarity. Perhaps the servers are being relocated to the Southern Hemisphere. 

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 19:49 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/24/2009 - 19:55 | Link to Comment peoplesdemocrat...
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This is like "WONDERAMA" for all you "70's" fans.

The last one standing (or holding stocks), when the music stops, is gonna get crushed!

 

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 23:24 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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That's the beauty of it. It's just an adaptation of house flipping for the stock market. When you flip houses and drive up the price it may impact you at the very end but the real brunt of the damage is on the banking system. And since the soverign funds are able to leverage up using bank funds or every persons deposits then once again it's ALL on the banks!! When it crashes you just go gets a BAILOUT!!

Buy an OC3 and start flipping stocks now.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 23:30 | Link to Comment artcash (not verified)
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Mon, 08/24/2009 - 20:56 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Betcha Goldman Sachs tries to buy out these guys.

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/editors/24010/?a=f

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 23:21 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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