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Was Last Night's Launch Of A "Rogue" Missile A Warning To Asia?
Many questions are swirling over last night's launch of a rogue rocket, which it appears was a submarine launched ICBM from the Pacific, 35 miles west of Los Angeles. So far pretty much everyone has denied any involvement, and as per the NYPost, "according to Fox News, NORAD and NORTHCOM would only say they were aware of the launch" even as "a navy spokesperson previously told KCBS that no navy activity was reported in the region." Yet the closest approximation for what the reason for the launch may have been comes from Robert Ellsworth, former defense secretary: "On viewing the footage, former deputy defense secretary Robert Ellsworth speculated on KCBS that the launch could be a show of military muscle. "It could be a test-firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile from a submarine ... to demonstrate, mainly to Asia, that we can do that," Ellsworth said." And China has not even sold and US bonds yet. So did China Dagong in turn retaliate earlier by downgrading the US? At this point we can only hope that the Chairman can confine his FX war to Forex terminals, without actually involving a few strategically placed mushroom clouds.
Update: Karl Denninger muses whether the missile was even an American one:
What if this wasn't one of ours?
Who else has this capability? China? Russia? Is this some sort of warning to Obama and/or Bernanke?
Where was it launched from?
Sea-launched,
as near as we can tell - but surface or submarine? Given the commercial
and recreational vessel traffic in that area, if this was ship-launched
someone should have seen the launching vessel. Now, more than 12 hours later, there are no reports of anyone having it on radar.
Note that private vessel radars are quite-capable of resolving a ship
large enough to launch something like this from the distance to the
horizon. My ship's radar was quite-capable of resolving a vessel of
this size if low to the water in the 10-12 mile range (curvature of the
earth) and if the vessel had significant superstructure above the water,
even further. If this thing was submarine launched then it gets even more interesting.
Why the silence?
I find it very
unlikely this was one of ours - unless it was a mistake. An
intentional launch - even of a missile with a dummy "warhead" - this
close to LA? No way. A malfunction could have sent that thing right
into downtown before it could be destroyed, and even unarmed it would do
a hell of a lot of damage. For this reason I do not believe this was an intentional US test.
Where were the NOTAMs if this was ours?
Missing, that's where. Multiple reports now that there were NO
notices posted for aviators. No way in hell our military intentionally
launches a missile without posting NOTAMs for the civilian air system
before it happens. This means it either wasn't ours, or wasn't
intentionally launched.
Where are the people who heard the notices on VHF Marine Radios and others?
I
live less than 5 miles from Eglin AFB. They run military exercises all
the time out in the gulf. I boat in the gulf. There are not only
NOTAMs posted all the time on their activity, but there are also notices
posted for mariners when they intend to do things out in the deep blue
sea. The military comes up on VHF regularly and announces
their intentions - and if you get too close by accident they are rather
explicit in their warnings to you as well. I have heard these warnings and notices dozens of times. The point is this: if
this was a military exercise there would be hundreds if not thousands
of mariners who would have heard about it, and it would have been
pointed out by now in the media.
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the Lockheed X-22A is a two-man antigravity disc fighter. The late Colonel Steve Wilson, USAF (ret.), stated that military astronauts trained at a secret aerospace academy separate from the regular Air Force Academy at Colorado Springs, CO. These military astronauts then operate out of Beale and Vandenberg Air Force Bases, Northern California From those bases, these military astronauts regularly fly trans-atmospherically and out into space (7). One of the aerospace craft they use, Colonel Wilson reported, is the X-22A.
http://www.aviationnews.eu/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/b2-bomber.jpg
Story also said they hover??
Starting to wonder if there was any Extraterrestrial implications to the story?
None of the ones you know about.
They can look like it if they are headed directly toward or away from the observer, and then make a sharp turn, as such aircraft are wont to do.
Interesting. Is that a rare sighting for Northern California? My gut says no and that these two events are in all likelihood related.
They only have two AFB that they launch from...Whiteman and Andersen...one in MO...the other in Guam.
Outside of airshows, it is unheard of.
They have launched from Van Nuys Airport (the world's busiest small-plane airport) to fly over the Rose Bowl Parade before. They also launch from an airport in Palmdale, northwest of LA.
There may be an official line about where they are based. But the reality of where they launch from is more complicated.
I used to live out in the desert near the Nevada Test Site (CA side of the state line) and we'd often see the stealth fighters at night when they were super-secret. Like little hot red rocks skipping on the air currents. Always at night. They killed test pilots doing that. One crashed nearby once...we heard a lot more sonic booms than usual, and then contrails appeared in concentric circles as they searched for the wreckage. That area was decreed off-limits forever as paint chips, parts of the plane etc. would be a valuable find to ne'er-do-wells. About that time the Revell Company caused a scandal by producing a plastic scale model of the aircraft and advertising it in comic books...pretty realistic.
Later I helped emplace the cables for underground nuclear test seismic moniters on behalf of...the Quakers (Friends Committee)...for the Soviets to monitor our testing and verify our treaty compliance. Hard to pickax through all that Basin and Range rock for the trenches!
Just to say--you never know what the heck you'll see in "real life"...
It would be interesting to hear the cockpit recording from the jet in the video.
"You are now free to move about the...holy shit, what the fuck is that thing"
You'd think the gov would lie about this too and say if was one of theirs if it wasn't.
Forked tongue, it wasn't one of ours, just sayin'
DoD: Pentagon spokesman on mystery missile: 'We've come up empty with any explanation,' but 'are not alarmed about this until we know more'
Well I am alarmed by this dumbass statement...holy mother fucker. I know we don't recruit the obesse but fuck...
I think it was China in international waters showing their stuff.
If a Muslem USN or USAF guy is the one who dun it, don't expect Barry to let DoD tell us....what the hel every is going on with that Ft Hood dude/Muslem??
Are you fucking kidding me? I can't believe someone gives you a computer unsupervised..
This thing has Waddell & Reed written all over it...
Lol, probably sold two es contracts at the same time!
Vandenberg. End of story.
Brilliant. Thanks.
Say, who's that little scrotum on the lower left? That Uncle Warren? Can we launch him too?
It's Slim Pickens, waiting for a lift.
Maybe we can add a giant banana with propulsion entitled "ZIRP-4EVA".
Fabulous!
On a general note, I have a hard time with addition, understand a little over half of what you all understand about markets, but I do love Zero Hedge so much. I probably don't belong here, but it feels like home. The level of paranoia here is so appropriately in the stratosphere. As Dr. Hunter Thompson observed, the paranoics are right.
The big one looks like my wife's play.....err.....never mind. :>)
It looks like the PELOSI 2
Nice! Well done Banzai!
On course and fully armed. Detonation in 10......9......8.......7...
Three words: TWA Flight 800
Could we see the Waddell & Reed missile because clearly this was the work of those nefarious bastards.
The missile was a message. It is Mandarin for "Print this on your money presses, capitalist bitches."
Not alarmed!!! Lets wait till we are all dead before we even become interested, never mind concerned. The sarcasm is dripping from me, shit i need a towel.
China firing it as a shot across the bow makes the most sense. The arizona deal was a citizen having fun with a model rocket. so i heard.
The awful thing is a nuclear exchange would happen so fast we would have no warning in a timely manner. I take this as a warning and am most concerned that our fucking dumb ass leaders are not concerned.
Maybe we should be buying Xanax and Vicodin instead of PMs...
NOTAM for LA.
KZLA LOS ANGELES A2832/10 – THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537. IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ALL NON-PARTICIPATING PILOTS ARE ADVISED TO AVOID W537. IFR TRAFFIC UNDER ATC JURISDICTION SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND W537 AND CAE 1176. CAE 1155 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1316 & CAE 1318 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1177 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. W537 ACTIVE, CAE 1176 CLOSED. SURFACE – FL390, 09 NOV 20:00 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 01:00 2010. CREATED: 08 NOV 20:52 2010
from pilotweb.nas.faa.gov
Looks like our response is a day late and a dollar short...
From 8 pm tonight until 1 pm tomorrow????
Maybe that's how long it takes to find an enemy sub before you've lost all chance and they are gone.
Something is playing out, off LA. Lucky bastards. They got OJ and now they get this, too.
are those times local or Zulu?
Hunt for "Red October" anyone?
they are saying its unrelated:
http://www.informationdissemination.net/2010/11/rogue-notam.html
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=34%C2%B02%2712%22N+121%C2%B041%2757%22W&ie...
But maybe it is related after all. If that was a Russian ICBM, then the distance estimates may be very missleading.
This appears to be either a Chinese or Russian sub firing FROM OUR COAST. Why fire from your own country when you could make the US appear to have started it. (Which, we kinda did financially LOL!) CHECK. (mate?) Nothing to see here folks. Move along.
The Chinese have a Song class submarine with sonar defeating coating. One popped up in a US wargame undetected back in 2006 or so.
Things are getting VERY interesting, and not in the best way (especially since I live on the West Coast, but thank God not in LA).
It might be the trillionaires leaving the planet before the end. Heading to the Nazi base on Mars.
How can the Pentagon NOT BE ALARMED!?!??!
A fucking generals HEAD SHOULD ROLL FOR THIS. WHAT KIND OF DERELICT DEFENSE DEPARTMENT LETS SOMEONE LAUNCH A MISSILE 30 MILES FROM LA??!?!?!?
Obama let his 747 fly all around NYC not too long ago. That alarmed New Yorkers.
Yeah I was remembering that. Surely they would be more careful. Right?
I'm not buying it. My gut is telling me it was not one of ours. Cat senses are tingling. Time to sit down and think this all the way through. This is just massive.
Miss Cougar, Do you have friends further away from the coast, about lets say 1000 miles inland? Can you take an early long weekend? Getting out of Kalifornia could be a bitch if this is what it might be.
Case solved: http://920kvec.com/Lift-Off-Finally-For-Vandenberg-Rocket/8529691
My bad. Vandenberg launched a rocket on Friday.
Little bit late...Article dated Nov. 8 Monday
That was from the night before, Vandenberg already said it was not launched from there.
Al Qaida stole the sub, they were launching the missile towards Washington!
Okay ZH'ers, time to preserve your precious bodily fluids!!
purity of essence!
epic lulz
Colonel Bat Guano has it all under control.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY
Mandrake: Now look, Colonel... Bat Guano, if that really is your name, may I tell you that I have a very, very good idea, I think, I hope, I pray, what the recall code is. It's some sort of recurrent theme he kept repeating. It's a variation on Peace on Earth or Purity of Essence. E O P. O P E. It's one of those!
Funny comments. My husband is always suspecting me of fooling around with rogue rockets.
World War III and the 2012 Prophecy. Who is the Anit Christ?
Anyone find it interesting that Obama is on an EXTENDED trip to India?
You are. Whoever smelt it dealt it.
Chinese. Next chess move on the board will be a series of underground nuclear tests by Japan.
One of these days it's gunna all crash and burn... Show wish I had bought more ABK...
Man, they better come up with some explanation. "We have no idea" is almost the worst thing they could say.
Agree 100%. A fucking missile pops out of the ocean in US territory near one of the most densely populated areas in the country, not to mention an earthquake zone...and all they do is shrug their shoulders like it was no big deal? We spent $533 Billion on defense this year and there's no outrage, no public commitment to get to the bottom of it?
Either they are lying or they just got their ass handed to them in the most public display of military incompetence and they don't want to admit it. Either way it is very concerning.
Definitely a fat finger error.
"No...Bud Lite!"
It was NOT an ICBM
Would you care to explain your assertion?
It was NOT an ICBM.
The only nation with the **capacity** to sneak a sub **clean into** Port of LA/SD Bay and subsequent capacity AND Balls to fire one off is **RUSSIA** ... Period
The part that everyone's missing and/or ignoring,
IS WHY WOULD USA FIRE A MISSILE OFF FROM PORT?
THAT'S FUCKING RETARDED, even for Obama. If that's his idea of assertive Foreign Policy & Diplomacy .... just wow. Intimidate LA.
By this I don't mean to insinuate/deduce it was foreign, but that's the strange part. But it was NOT an ICBM, nor a Sat launch. [too small]. But also, bigger than a simple Cruise Missile. It was Medium Range [1,500-2,500m].
YOU GUYS THINK OBAMA'S MADE A MESS OF ECONOMICS, WAIT UNTIL HIS LITTLE CHICKEN SHIT ASS WADES INTO FP/DIPLO AS A PLOY TO WIN IN 2012 AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A REAL MESS
******************PUTIN WILL FIST HIM*********************
LONG
MOTHER
FUCKING
GAS
MASKS
Bitchez :(
ps: Obama & the NeoLibs are playing Call of Duty this weekend [like NeoCons are] so they can preach Tactics & Strategy to you on CNN.
LOL
lol, nice.
Yeah I can't see Russia doing this either.
So it's not an ICBM because it's Russian?
Russia/USSR didn't have sub-launched ICBMs ever?
WTF. That is just fantasy.
Assuming it is Russian, it could have been Russian-made in the hands of Koreans or Iranians or just about anyone with $500M to blow on a ForEx gambit. Shit, Soros could be behind it. Kidding, George! You da man!
Great rant themos!
Agree that Putin will put the O through the ringer.
Also agree with :(
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=club+k+missile
Oh, I feel much better now.
Wait. You not from the Pentagon? Oh okay then shut up.
Most likely correct. There is no point to firing an ICBM off our coast. Any old ballistic missle would do the trick.
Shall we play a game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecPeSmF_ikc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl37UZvFsz0&feature=player_embedded
A submarine-launched ballistic missile
If you watch this video of a sub launched missile gone bad ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkT3I6RDPkw&feature=related
This matches the video Tyler posted ...
This is the second secret missile launch in as many days.
Not the first.
http://fascistsoup.com/2010/11/09/us-launches-second-secret-missile-in-as-many-days/
Um, but this was not a secret missile launch. They launched 25 miles off LA, the one place in the world where nobody can keep a secret and everyone over the age of 3 has a cell phone with live video streaming.
Jeezuz.
Now I think about it, it must be someone seriously out to make a point. See what we can do? Unless it's one of ours then our coastal security is for shit, and now everyone knows it. N Koreans are in there, maybe the Chinese. This majorly sucks.
It's secret because our criminal government isn't telling us who launched it or why.
Jeezuz.
Nor are they saying who launched the first missile reported in the article linked.
Now, while every one's attention is on California, the cargo ship with the container carrying the [fill in the blank] works it's way into Baltimore harbor.
Remember the set up with the non exploding missed-it-by-that-much HP printer cartridge? Can you say (false flag) attack?
I agree.
A major false flag is imminent.
The establishment knows the ship is sinking and they will stop at nothing to retain power.
You may recall, I said at the time that the real package not looking suspicious at all was due to arrive unnoticed.
A high school kid can write these scripts. I suppose O is in India on the off chance the shipment of baby pacifiers from Yemen arrives as planned. And now he's headed for Cheyenne Mountain on a private jet while AF1 makes a potential suicide run.
I added an update to that linked post.
This could very well be a Chinese missile launch from a container ship.
China saw the first missile launch as posturing and decided to fire one of its own off our coast. It might also be the Russians, since they are the ones who make the missile system.
I'm leaning that direction. But I'm not sure about a container ship, as that would radar really easy and be vulnerable to a USNavy capture. Unless they planned on blowing it up after the launch (they might) that ship is already ours.
It had to be a sub. Just had to be. Nothing else fits.
I'm noticing I generally like your way of thinking dude [ie not just in regards to this comment, others too ... here & there .... proper amount of cognition & dissonance I'd say. Unusual ;)...]
Asia knows we can launch a missile over there, and have been able to for decades. We don't need to do a test lauch to prove it.
It's far more likely that some other country did a launch from near the US to demonstrate, to the US, that they can do that!
China has shot down a US satellite to prove they can do that, too. I smell China all over this.
It wasn't a US satellite doofus, it was an old Chicom communications satellite.
Obligatory...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c21qNyeb0kY
It was either Chinese or Israeli. No, it was not a warning from us, it was a warning to us. Remember, Israel has 4 subs and they can and do crazy things sometimes. How did they get in so close undetected? I don't know. It is nice to see that someone just happened to be there to film the event. How nice. It is imho, all about nuclear blackmail which has been going on for a long time. It is either my way or the highway and this event proves that they can back up their talk with the walk. In the final analysis, again, most Americans have no idea who their true enemies are, nor do they have any idea who they are dealing with. These people will stop at nothing to achieve what it is they want. Make no mistake about it.
http://www.nti.org/db/submarines/israel/index.html
The warning, is, if it is a Israeli submarine , is to anyone who knows and sees things as they truely are, that the sampson option will be implemented if anyone decides to shall we say, get off of the reservation in our foreign policy initiatives etc in the middle east and elsewhere, if it is Chinese,then it was to say that they want their islands and they also want to do what it is they want in their area of hegemony.
the sampson option according to sy hersh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Samson_Option_(book)
All that about Isreal, and you never mention N Korea?
Get another hobby. Mil-Int isn't your thing.
Don't be silly. The Israelis would be crazy NOT to have loaded suitcase nukes all over the US. What good are submarines in LA???
Someone needs a billboard here. I am on the China train.
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Could you repeat that please ;-)
There will be survivors after the Sampson Option-but I sure wouldn't want to be a jewish survivor!
Sorry Dudes, we pushed the wrong button...
there are two possibilities - this was a usa missle intended to intimidate or it was a chinese missile intended to intimidate...remember that the chinese got all of their icbm / missile technology from the usa during the clinton administration....gm was no small bit player in the giveaway
my guess is that the missile was chinese.
China is sick of waiting for their delivery of California, it will now be taken by force.
Paranoia ramping:
"Senior CIA sources also say a nuclear bomb has been prepositioned along the San Andrea fault line. The explosion would be followed by a shut off of all ports connected to Asia and martial law, according to this source."
http://rense.com/general92/cbal.htm
Senior CIA sources also say a nuclear bomb has been prepositioned along the San Andrea fault line. The explosion would be followed by a reduction in unemployment and brand new land to overbuild on ....beachfront baby!
That article has so many batshit crazy references to numerology and secret societies (not to mention the forces of Satan) that it made my eyes cross.
Any reference to Rense.com = automatic junking.
The Chinese have Diesel electric subs. If they stayed shallow and close to shore they could work their way into the coastal waters undetected. (I am an ex Navy ASW pilot). This would be a hugh coup. The military already knows if it was a missle. If it was ours we have never fired from that area. We usually operate in deeper water further offshore. So if it was ours it is a big screwup. If it was the Chinese things are getting scary cause that was a threat against the US Western Seaboard.
Why do we spend billions of dollars on Military, Homeland Security, CIA, NSA, only to have them tell us they don't know. Very comforting. My guess is they are practicing false flag operations or it was an accident and they haven't come up with a story yet. Why would a country want to start a war with the U.S. ? They would need some kind of international coalition otherwise it would be suicide. IMO the U.S. government would welcome a war right about now and the public would be behind it if we were attacked on our own soil, this would solve a lot of their problems.
Surely sub-based large-missile launch routines are not susceptible to "accidents." Oops, you mean I shouldna pushed that button, sir? Impossible.
If it was one of ours, perhaps it was the opening move in a military coup--especially since their response is "we didn't do it."
I agree about an international coalition. Perhaps this is the G2, G3, G4 "offer" to G1 USA that we will drop the Reserve Currency game tomorrow at the G20 meetings.
EET EEZ ZEE FRANCH?!?!?!?!?!?
No wonder it flew the wrong way.
I don't really believe it was an accident either but the U.S. might report it that way. Say it is a warning from another country and we don't comply. Then what? They will attack us on our own soil so we can blame them and start a war in which we are in a better strategic position than any other country having bases all over the world. Highly unlikely.
Coalition = China, Russia, India, Iran. Everybody that the US has been fucking with for the past ten years. When you start ringing asia with missile bases its on. I say Chinese sub; for christ sakes they already parked one right in the middle of a carrier task force, this is just a follow on. Wake up and smell the reality bitches. All your short hairs are berong to us...
Clearly this a collaboration between aliens, iranians, chinese and islamo vietnamese stealth boat people.
The only things which bother me are the fact our MIC karma demands we will face this someday /if it is not something we face now. And that there is simply no way we can trust our own under the incredible secret veil they have with all our money, our constitution be damned.
All that said, thetin foil hat-attacks in this thread are the funniest around. I'm sure the spooks are out in full force/appreciation today.
get back to trading...market turned up at 1215 support....buy buy
It might be the ambassador from planet Zaton, reporting back to the emperor the top secret info that Earth and the human race is broke.
Well as the military is now admitting that a missile was fired, apparently from a submarine, they are trying to either admit a mistake or place blame.
Goodnight Harry
Remember that Mao quote and tremble.
``Nuclear weapons are a paper tiger against China.``
That's why Mao sent troops against UN troops in Korea. He wasn't afraid of nuclear war. After all, ``China is big and has 600 million people.``
Hopefully their leaders today don't believe in that.
Obama's making the rounds all throughout Southeast Asia. I'm not saying it's probably a live-fire demonstration of our missile-shield technology ahead of trade negotiations, I'm just saying the map looks an awful lot like the Taiwan Straights.
"It could be a test-firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile from a submarine ... to demonstrate, mainly to Asia, that we can do that," Ellsworth said.
They already know we can do that, we already know they can do that. The Chinese don't need to show military might, they have the US by it's fiscal balls.
More likely a message from a friend not to F with them...
DEFCON status remains at 4. Either the military knew about it, or the bureaucrat responsible for changing the number is asleep or surfing porn.
They wouldn't change the DEFCON without consulting market conditions first. Stocks are down a bit, QE2 is getting friction. No change DEFCON okay guys? You'll mess up the system.
What, is there a website that tracks NORAD's DEFCON status too?
Must be a US Navy test as it's right in the Pacific Missile Test Range (Pt. Mugu) just a bit in front of Santa Cruz island.
2 problems with your theory:
1. There was no NOTAM issued. Those are MANDATORY in case of a test launch.
2. The military and NORAD said they don't know what it was. If it would have been a test they would have said is just a test.
The U.S. has allowed private business to test private rockets for private space travel at Vandenberg. Perhaps they are now allowing private testing of private missiles.
Here's Pt. Mugu:
http://www.navair.navy.mil/ranges/SEA/index.htm
Now I'm thinking... what if Russia did that SLBM launch over LA? Could this be connected to the missile shield?
A warning that the US missile shield is useless...and not to push with it with Turkey? Because if Turkey accepts the missile shield, that will mean that Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia will have a missile-shield too...
RIGHT ON RUSSIA'S BORDER.
After all, it was done just over Vanderberg Air Force Base... where they test the anti-missile shield... and that is mere miles from LA...
Me thinks this very well could be connected.
Uhmm,,,"Promotional video from the Russian company Concern Morinformsystem-Agat":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb4yLWBLqvU
Contrary to Hairy Wanker, it really was a missile. Contrary to the speculation, it was a US missile, likely part of an ABM test (hence the surprise). There was a generic warning about it. It is explained here: http://scienceblogs.com/catdynamics/2010/11/missile_firing_off_la.php?utm_source=networkbanner&utm_medium=link.
then why did the military deny the launch after the fact? That is potentially the most irresponsible thing to do, if you know the facts, why scare people?
Now that's no fun!
Strange. The NOTAM specifies that launches will happen between 1400 and midnight or 0100 to 0200. This missile was launched in the morning. Spending a hell of a lot of my time working near a missile test range, let me tell you, they are sticklers for the published times as it disrupts traffic when they do. There would also have been a sizable surface ship presence for data collection and range safety and NORAD would have known within 10 minutes who launched. I'm willing to bet NORAD has that range's range control number on fucking speed dial and would have called them first. Also all personnel down range would have had to be cleared to enter and exit beforehand and has kept radio contact with range control at all times. If this had been a US pre-planned launch NORAD would have known about it before the launch. If it was an accidental firing, they would have known within 10 minutes of launch. Hours latter, no statement and they still don't know. Im sorry, I call bullshit on the theory it was a US launch.
P.S. That size missile (medium range ballistic) would have never been launched that close to L.A. Too dangerous for inhabited areas. I'm willing to bet that the range off L.A. deals mainly with short range ordnance and horizontal launches (ship to ship and cruise) not vertical launches.
Invisible Chinese subs :
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2010/10/25/2003486862/2
I'd place my bet on China. About three summers ago there were war games going on in the Pacific. Right in the middle of them a Chinese sub surfaces next to an US aricraft carrie and it never even showed up on their radar.
Before leaving on his trip, Obama said the Chinese have the fastest trains as well as the fastest computers. They now seem to be sending a message, perhaps reagrding the Bernanke dump of another 600B. Can you hear us now?
Just because the Chinese sub was there and surfaced, doesn't automatically mean that it wasn't known. A carrier rammed one a few years back that got to close.
Pardon my language, but how the fuck can the military say "there's no threat to the homeland" if they have no clue where it came from or who launched it??
And if NORAD didn't detect THAT thing, we've got problems.
they can't, Col Lapham "would not confirm (there was not threat) because the military does not know what the missile was or where it came from..."
Now if they know it was ours, and they are lying, some heads should roll, if they don't know we should be digging a bomb shelter.
At this late stage, even if the military did "admit" that the shot was ours - it could just be disinfo for "crowd control."
Don't want the inmates to get agitated.
I agree that the military doesn't fire-off secret missile tests into occupied airspace like this...
Obviously it was a US missile, wait for more news and it'll be passed off as a ABM test.
An ABM test within cell-phone-video-straight-to-YouTube distance of LA?
God I cannot believe you people. Listen to yourselves.
We're being tooled. Either by our own people (act of treason) or by a foreign actor (act of war).
put away your tin hats just saw on "inside edition" that it was the us navy missile launched by mistake. We have been having alot of fat finger mistakes lately.
what the fuck, when will Americans start choking on this bullshit
Sources tell it was the Paulson Bazooka, which Bernanke was using to threaten the Chinese.
Once again a little sea training for our sub boys. The story about the SK ship sinking has now been swept under the rug.
So let us try a launch drill from a sub. We don't really want to launch a weapon, so put the safety on Rusty. No Rusty, the other button...
Maybe a sub, but no need for a sub. There are a number of islands off the coast of LA. The Navy owns one of them for its own testing purposes.
Per the link given above, the U.S. and Japanese have been playing together for a while. We throw something up and Japan shoots it down. The article suggests this could have been a surprise launch, to test Japan's ability to handle the unexpected. If true, the top brass would find it easier to say it was an accidental launch than to explain what is going on with Japan