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The CFTC webcast on position limits and how to best preserve the status quo in precious metal market manipulation is starting. Readers can watch it at the following link.

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Thu, 01/13/2011 - 10:42 | 872818 Turd Ferguson
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Children by the millions scream for Bart Chilton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSJYZyouek

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:11 | 872907 Turd Ferguson
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I junked me, too. God forbid any attempts at humor.

(and I just junked this, too)

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:56 | 873049 Chappaquiddick
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Me too - you should be ashamed of yourself!  A YELLOW HAT!!!!  What is the matter with you!

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 10:46 | 872829 LongSoupLine
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As soon as that ass quoted Krugman, I knew what the outcome was going to be.  WHat a completely corrupted POS!

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:00 | 872866 unwashedmass
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well, you have to at least appreciate how they are making public the complete corruption of our markets.....

i mean, at least we're being honest and giving the world fair warning that our markets are no longer free, fair or transparent.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:00 | 872867 unwashedmass
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well, you have to at least appreciate how they are making public the complete corruption of our markets.....

i mean, at least we're being honest and giving the world fair warning that our markets are no longer free, fair or transparent.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 10:47 | 872832 Caviar Emptor
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It doesn't matter as much in these days of multiple huge ETFs and vast physical holdings. THe US and IMF dropped the ball on gold price manipulation during this crisis by repeatedly selling off their once dominant holdings and placing it right into the hands of emerging economy central banks. They now have dollar protection and leverage in the global currency wars. Also physical gold holdings of wealthy individuals has never been so high since before 1933.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 10:47 | 872835 TruthInSunshine
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Commodities; yet another of the myriad of rigged ways opportunity cost/lost and stealth taxation is taking a bite out of your ass, compliments of the gaming of the entire system.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 10:51 | 872844 NOTW777
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fraud and corruption in public. let me guess - this will be delayed for further study while the morgue piles up more cash

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 10:54 | 872854 eigenvalue
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Exactly. If this is not the case, you will eat my hat.:)

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 10:52 | 872848 lsbumblebee
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Why does Gensler have his fingers crossed?

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:17 | 872931 Hephasteus
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Digi-lexia?

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:25 | 872967 lsbumblebee
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Maybe he's reminding himself that he'll have to pee later.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 20:01 | 874827 Hephasteus
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Reminding himself to keep his fingers out of the euro-usd cross.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 10:53 | 872852 Ecoman11
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Sounds like position limits are going on the backburner for a while.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 10:59 | 872865 eigenvalue
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Guess PMs will be hammered again today because the EE will use any chance to do that.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:00 | 872868 belogical
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These guys are asking pre written question and answers? why have this meeting if it is staged?

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:04 | 872879 LongSoupLine
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Exactly what I noticed too.  This stinks of a "check the box" and/or "cover your ass" meeting.  f'ing BS!

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:00 | 872870 gwar5
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Bang Dai-Close

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 12:05 | 873084 poor fella
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WORD!! I heard about that stock! The chinese cotton apparel company that's going to make all the uniforms for U.S. prisoners.
I don't need no stinking retirement account - gonna be REEEECH bitchez!

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:01 | 872872 belogical
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Chilton is on the phone? 

This is a huge meeting were is he?

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:45 | 873025 Lord Blankcheck
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duct taped to a chair after the waterboarding

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:02 | 872875 JLee2027
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It all looks so scripted.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:05 | 872882 Kaiser Sousa
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fuck the CFTC, Chilton included...they aint gonna do a damn thing except what they been doin...nothin...look at what the fucking bankers r doing to both metals AGAIN today just coincedentally siding with another 450k hitting the bread lines....fuck all bankers...

they should all be catching hot slugs...yeah i said it and mean it...

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:15 | 872926 Cdad
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look at what the fucking bankers r doing to both metals AGAIN today

Bankers will have to continually attack PMs...in perpetuity.  They cannot allow you to have faith in anything but the stud man USD...which, ironically, they use to play Whack-a-Mole with every day to make their commodity positions go up every day...hey, wait a minute.......

Nope, nothing for the CFTC to do here...and we should all move along.  After all, hedge funds need to hedge...and naked short sell things...and corner markets...and jack oil up into our keesters when there is plenty of oil around and so on and on and on.  After all, how else is L. Blankfein going to keep the light on at L.B. Wildest Dreams Park [oil futures]?  Those guys have buckets and buckets of caviar to eat, buddy.

Move along...nothing to see....

P.S.

At least today, the CEO of the largest silver manipulation bank is busy right now groveling to the government to get millions of tax payer dollars for selling putrid AIG shares into the market...so we have that going for us ;)

 

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:07 | 872888 tmosley
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Excellent.  This gives me more time to accumulate physical.  If the LBMA and COMEX hold out, I would project an average price of $40/oz this year.  That means I'll be able to boost my stash by some 20% this year.  

Wheeee! This investing stuff is easy!

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:07 | 872893 Dexter Morgan
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Damn, I can't watch the vid.  Can't seem to play in on my iMac.  It's a small price to pay to have Microsoft out of my life, though.  Thanks for the updates.  Not anywhere near selling my physical yet.  haha  Take that, CFTC bithez!

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:20 | 872948 Upswaller
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Upgrade your Flash or whatever vid software you have.  It worked great on my MacBook Pro.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:41 | 873014 TheDriver
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Dexter, you may want to take a look at installing Flip4Mac and VLC.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:07 | 872894 Kaiser Sousa
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fuck the CFTC, Chilton included...they aint gonna do a damn thing except what they been doin...nothin...look at what the fucking bankers r doing to both metals AGAIN today just coincedentally siding with another 450k hitting the bread lines....fuck all bankers...

they should all be catching hot slugs...yeah i said it and mean it...

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:08 | 872895 JLee2027
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Scott D O'Malia wants to know about hedge exemptions and the penalties for disclosing internal CFTC information. Lots of questions....

Hmmm...

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:08 | 872898 belogical
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This is ridiculous. There not going to do anything. Chilton is not there because he doesn't want us to see his face after lying to us.

They basically said they have limits that don't matter 

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:10 | 872904 famousamos
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"Hedge Exemptions" 

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:11 | 872912 bigdumbnugly
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good thing they didn't sell tickets to this stinkfest.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:15 | 872928 JLee2027
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4-1 Sommers is a NO

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:16 | 872930 10044
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4-yes 1 No... what does this mean? position limit is in place?

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:19 | 872939 JLee2027
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Goes out for public comment. Final vote to implement in 60 days.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:18 | 872936 lsbumblebee
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Check it out. In honor of this dog and pony show da boyz at the Comex are having a paper drive.

http://www.kitco.com/

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:28 | 872940 bigdumbnugly
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this is like watching some ncaa basketball games before they implemented the shot clock.  it will go into the scorebook that a game was conducted, though little action was seen, and the final score was 3-1.

stinks.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:20 | 872946 Kina
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The CFTC was established for the purpose of facilitating banker corruption of commodities, Gold. The CFTC is an arm of the mafia banks.

 

If and when everything crashes and there is blood vengence in the heart of Americans it will be people like the CFTC and banksters that will be dragged onto the streets for public executions. Therefore they all probably have hide aways in South America.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:36 | 872994 Bastiat
Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:27 | 872971 Bastiat
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PMs coming back from the dunk on good volume.  Wd love to see Blythe go into the holiday weekend with a sore ass.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:31 | 872983 EscapeKey
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...just the usual daily SEC/CFTC-approved manipulation. It won't be long now.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 12:02 | 873072 buzlightening
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LOL Nice call and lets hope for a tail piping for the banksters soon! 

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:38 | 872997 Kristian
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If they maintain the status quo for some time longer, what's the bad news then (unless one is speculating on higher short term prices)? No one is going to sell his silver since it is a long term investment and more silver to buy at discount prices. I'm not complaining (only when they jam the price below the price of scrap metal perhaps).

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:38 | 872998 10044
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sarah is hot!

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:41 | 873011 Kristian
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What is that blonde talking about, I can't make head or tails out of it.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:49 | 873033 flacon
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She's talking about: the eventual authorities regulations that she believes the proposal will be proposed at a later point. I think generally speaking that is correct. That regieme, if that swap dealer is not a bank, I can check this later, but that ummm, under title II it would not be considered but we can follow up on that topic. 

 

 

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:57 | 873052 jesusonline
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CFTC's head Gensler spent 18 years with Goldman, sure you want to watch this. Or maybe not.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:58 | 873056 gookempucky
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What a waste of energy--nothing accomplished just more twaddle dee twaddle dumb---time to buy more TP as the amount of crap being spewed is way over hip deep.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:59 | 873059 Pegasus Muse
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Missed the webcast.  What did they decide on Position Limits?

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 12:03 | 873078 gookempucky
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Nothing

This meeting reminds me of a town with 18 citizens and all of them are on the city council.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 12:00 | 873068 buzlightening
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Nothin but intellectual masturbation dog'n pony show, as the corrupt bought & paid for cftc enter another round of circle jerking!!

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 12:01 | 873070 Sudden Debt
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We can only pray they would succeed in bringing silver down to 1 dollar so everybody can load up big one more time :)

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 13:00 | 873275 cossack55
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You so right, SD.

For someone used to paying around $7/oz, I just find it impossible to pay going rate. Stupid I know, just can't do it.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 12:02 | 873073 Variance Doc
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Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-hm! Ooh-oo-oo-oo-er. Mm-mm-mm.
Jah would never give the power to a baldhead
Run come crucify the Dread.

Time alone - oh, time will tell:
Think you're in heaven, but ya living in hell;
Think you're in heaven, but ya living in hell;
Think you're in heaven, but ya living in hell.
Time alone - oh, time will tell:
Ya think you're in heaven, but ya living in hell.

Back them up; oh, not the brothers,
But the ones who sets 'em up.

. . . -Bob Marley
Thu, 01/13/2011 - 12:04 | 873080 flacon
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From Market Watch:

 

CFTC proposes stringent commodity limits

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cftc-proposes-stringent-commodity-limits-2011-01-13

"WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Seeking to combat manipulation and speculation, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission on Thursday voted to propose a rule that would restrict the number of commodity futures and option contracts that any investor can hold in energy, agriculture or metals derivatives. "Position limits help to protect the markets both in times of clear skies and when there is a storm on the horizon," said CFTC Chairman Gary Gensler. The proposal was introduced by a vote of 4-to-1. "

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 12:45 | 873245 A_MacLaren
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I missed the broadcast - based on multiple comments above, it sounds like the MarketWatch is its traditional misinformation, yes there is a proposal for comment going out, but as for restrictions and position limits, the exemptions and exceptions are big enough to drive a billion Brinks body bags filled with paper PMs, contract Crude, and digital Derivatives through...

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 14:00 | 873485 deepsouthdoug
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It's a vote for 60 day comment period:

 

The CFTC today voted 4-1 to propose rules that would limit the number of contracts a single firm can hold. The public has 60 days to critique the caps. O’Malia said he’s “very skeptical” about the proposal, though he voted to put it out for comment. No date is for a final vote on the rules.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-13/commodity-speculation-limits-di...

 

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 12:04 | 873081 papaswamp
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They can only manipulate it as long as the faith in fiat currencies work. Faith will be lost then so will their power.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 12:19 | 873153 Alpine
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When the commissioner asks about reports / reporting apparently there is none.
They are totally clueless and not managing anything, no deadlines to improve. 

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 12:38 | 873217 Chappaquiddick
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They are mandated to introduce them by the 16th of this month.

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 13:47 | 873438 belogical
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I did not hear the entire broadcast, but it sounded to me like they were going to put limits however when they violate the limits they just vote to see what to do. It's not a hard limit and what difference does it make if they just allow them to stay over the limit?

This accomplishes nothing.

 

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 14:53 | 873640 darkaeye
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I had a totally different idea of what “position limits” meant.  I didn’t realize it meant the sole position for retail investors was bent over, holding our ankles.

 

Pass the Vaseline please...

Thu, 01/13/2011 - 18:22 | 874558 Mr Pinnion
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The cartoon teddy spoke the truth.

ALL HAIL THE TEDDY!

 

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