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Watch The European Union Press Conference Over Ireland (And Other Things) Live

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This is so deja vu of the EU press conference when the Greek bailout was announced on Sunday, May 9. Although this time there is no silver lining, as no deal has been reached. Anyway, here is the link for the EU press conference which so far is agenda-less so anything could be announced... or nothing.

 

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Tue, 11/16/2010 - 16:57 | 732236 Spalding_Smailes
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Cubs just pulled the request for (300 million/bonds) for park renovations ..... Plan was killed in under a week. No tax payer funds for you.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 16:59 | 732244 Yikes
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Market rallying into the close.  Are they getting any whispers from Europe?

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:01 | 732254 SheepDog-One
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I didnt see any 'rally'.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:02 | 732257 Al89
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Euro still below 35.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:03 | 732270 Nedly66
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God damn it its in french!

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:04 | 732275 SheepDog-One
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Blimey!!

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:04 | 732276 Yikes
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You can select english in lower left box

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:05 | 732281 Nedly66
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I did =/ its still in french

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:09 | 732304 Negro Primero
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Select the language and then reload.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:06 | 732283 Lord Maximus
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You can pick "English" in the Language selector below the video....but you can already guess what is happening...prolonging the inevitable

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:06 | 732284 Al89
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So no request yet. 'We would welcome any request' and then quickly talk about Portugal and laud their 'unclear' reform attempts.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:08 | 732296 gringo28
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all i keep hearing is something about la croissant avec jam?!?

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:11 | 732318 the not so migh...
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croissant with jam?

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:08 | 732298 TWORIVER
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AND Ireland officially says...F OFF!

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:10 | 732311 Spalding_Smailes
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Update i cant tune in ... Thanks !

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:09 | 732307 goldmiddelfinger
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I left me portugese dick behind

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:10 | 732310 Yikes
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My eye's are glazing over.  Man, this is dry stuff.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:11 | 732313 Aductor
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Only diplomatic BS so far. "We welcome...", "We call upon..."

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:12 | 732324 Cobb
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Dear eurogroup:

Go f... yourself.

Sincerely,

Ireland

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:15 | 732340 SheepDog-One
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CNBC now Zerohedge obsessed, now taken to saying everything there is an 'unfounded rumor' OH so what CNBC says is all scrubbed and polished unspun truth? Ok.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:17 | 732344 the not so migh...
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Becky Quick getting arrested on-air, hey you never know.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:18 | 732349 SheepDog-One
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One day soon, I think a lot of them will just be noticed to no longer be around. Their usefullness is near over.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:19 | 732350 Al89
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So to sum up.

Ireland has hardly been mentioned, a lot of rubbish about 'Unity', going on and on about Portugal, the statements at the G20. And oh, of course, mentioning the fact they are shitting themselves about what the bond holders will do. Nice first question about the useless 'stress tests'.

 

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:19 | 732351 gringo28
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nothing.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:21 | 732356 Yikes
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Heh.  First question:  Those stress tests where pretty much worthless weren't they?

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:23 | 732364 Orly
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I'm already hungry.  Should have gone for the chicken and garlic sauce...

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:26 | 732377 Mad Mad Woman
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That was great being able to watch that press conference. Leave it to the WSJ to get the 1st question, & about the Irish bank stress tests. Heh heh.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:31 | 732396 Al89
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So the euro hit the 1.20s on the back of the first Greek crisis. Now we have a double whammy of Greece and Ireland coupled with the possibility of Portugal. How low?

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:36 | 732417 gringo28
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not gonna happen. ben is buying futures. eurusd is already ticking up on the bid, fast. 1.355 by dinner time is my guess.....

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:41 | 732437 Orly
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There should be a bounce to the resistance level at 1.3566 then back down.  The ultimate downside target for EURUSD is 1.283.

 

Goodnight, all!  It was certainly wonderful talking with you all.

Sheep-Dog One was on the roll!

Orly

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 19:36 | 732763 Minion
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For fun, here's my downside target before the next leg up:  1.32

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 19:38 | 732770 Orly
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Okay.

You're saying that the EURUSD will bounce off of 1.32 before heading higher?

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 19:56 | 732816 Minion
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Yes, just an elliot wave hunch, could be wrong. 

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 20:34 | 732899 Orly
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Play the probabilities, Minion.  Play the probabilities.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 00:39 | 733282 SheepDog-One
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Nodded off listening to the speeches, lol

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:31 | 732397 saulysw
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"The devil is in the details...."

Exactly.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:34 | 732408 saulysw
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Oh, and I must have nodded off at some point this year. What is this "permanent crisis resolution mechanism" of which they speak? And how do you read that -- a resolution mechanism to a permanent crisis? Hmmmmm...

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:34 | 732409 scratch_and_sniff
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yawn fest.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:35 | 732416 Cobb
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Maybe I'm wrong and someone correct me if I am, but it seems to me they said a lot of nothing which probably means they can't get Ireland to take a bail out.  They're sending the storm troopers to Dublin, but so far Ireland is resisting them.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:38 | 732426 RSDallas
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I heard that they were well into the bail out discussions and it was going to happen????????

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 20:59 | 732939 tom a taxpayer
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Exactly, Cobb. The Eurogroup  press conference led by President Juncker has ended (what a perfect name for the President of the clusterfook Eurogroup).  The good news is that Ireland still has not requested a bailout from the Eurobanksters. 

The unclear news is that talks have moved to Dublin, with EU and IMF con artists going to do cocktail napkin calculation with the Irish on the terms of a potential bailout. This move to Dublin could be just the Irish allowing the EU to pretend a bailout is in the works in order to calm the markets. Or, it could be some Irish govt pols are geting ready to accept a bailout.

 

 

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:36 | 732418 RSDallas
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What was he saying about Geithner at the end?

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 01:14 | 733337 tom a taxpayer
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He was saying that Geithner had phoned to urge them to act quickly. He (Juncker) then smirked and said they did take action and that Geithner's call rang just after they had taken action. Juncker was implying the Eurogroup knew when to take action, and they did not need Tiny Tim telling them what and when to act.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:39 | 732431 It is a bargin ...
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I've been waiting for this moment

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 18:44 | 732614 CPL
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I love Johnny Cash...

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:39 | 732434 erik
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so the basic outline is that there is no bailout so far.  they won't commit to any comment on timeline or money involved.  and most importantly, they must have Ireland request the bailout.

in other words, just like Greece, the market will have to force Ireland's hand.  expect to see bond spreads continue upward and an emergency Sunday night decision on a bailout, just like Greece.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:51 | 732473 scratch_and_sniff
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Can they keep the spreads that wide until next year though???

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 18:10 | 732524 erik
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scratch, check out the Greece crisis timeline... spreads continued to get wider even after the first "agreement" on 11 April 2010.  Greece's hand was eventually forced April 27 when it reached into the high 600 basis points.

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/may/05/greece-debt-crisis-timeline

11 April 2010: EU ministers agree Greek bailout terms

Finally, after weeks of haggling the eurozone agrees a €30bn rescue package for its weakest member.

 

16 April 2010: Fury in Greece over IMF intervention

Greek government admits that it may need help from the International Monetary Fund, pushing its bailout up to €45bn.

 

19 April 2010: Greek borrowing reaches record high

The spread between the yield on Greek and German bonds shoots up to 469 basis points, as Greek workers fear the IMF's arrival.

 

23 April 2010: Greece activates €45bn EU/IMF loans

With €16bn of debt maturing in May, Papandreou bows to the inevitable and officially requests a bailout.

 

27 April 2010: Standard & Poor's downgrade Greek credit rating to junk status

S&P loses patience with Greece and slashes its credit rating to BB+, sending stock markets plunging worldwide. Analysts and politicians warn that €45bn simply won't be enough to sort out the Greek crisis, with Goldman Sachs predicting that the country may need a €150bn rescue package.

 

28 April 2010: All eyes are Berlin

EU and IMF officials hold crunch talks with German leaders. Rumours of a €120bn package calm the markets, as Angela Merkel admits that admitting Greece into the euro may have been a mistake.

 

2 May 2010: EU debt crisis: Greece granted €110bn aid to avert meltdown

After days of frantic negotiations, the IMF, the EC and the European central bank hammer out a three-year package to rescue Greece.

 

4 May 2010: Greek protesters storm the Acropolis as markets lose faith

As anger erupts across Athens at the scale of the cutbacks that Greece must now implement, stock markets fall sharply and gold hits a record high as investors start to doubt whether the €110bn bailout will actually solve Greece problems.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 18:27 | 732538 erik
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here is the Ireland timeline so far, and Greece and Ireland 10 year charts...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/8133611/Irish-debt-crisis-timeline.html

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/cbuilder?ticker1=GGGB10YR%3AIND

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/cbuilder?ticker1=GIGB10YR%3AIND

you can see that the Ireland spreads have already reached levels very close to the Greek spread levels on April 27th.  they have not yet reached levels that Greek spreads reached at the pinnacle over the May 1-2 emergency weekend.  history would suggest that Ireland spreads are going to skyrocket over the next few days and force yet another weekend emergency meeting.

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 08:04 | 733540 scratch_and_sniff
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Fair enough. Thanks for taking the time to get that information btw. I was thinking that, since Ireland wont be tapping the market until well into next year, does it actually bother the Irish, or if spreads made a difference to them at this point? But i suppose the whole contagion problem is at the heart of any motivation to take a bailout, plus private sector funding. Still hope they don’t take it though.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:39 | 732435 johngaltfla
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The Euro is officially toast. Pass the Attorney General Approved Mediator flavored jam please.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 17:55 | 732479 kaiten
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I wonder who is now shouting louder behind closed doors, Angela or Nicolas.

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 18:55 | 732647 Highrev
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The Guardian is providing updates on Ireland Bailout Talks : http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/nov/16/ireland-bailout-debt-crisis

Thanks to CalculatedRisk for bringing this to my attention. http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 19:20 | 732721 CPL
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Why are you reading British tabloids on an Irish subject?

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 19:19 | 732714 CPL
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http://www.thejournal.ie/cowen-denies-irish-application-for-state-or-ban...

Basically the Irish people put the gun to his head with a general election.  In a country with 2 million people, the Cowan clan understands that it won't have anywhere to hide if it fucks up.

 

 

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 20:47 | 732924 Buttcathead
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So, does QE3 start @ 9:30 in the morning???

Tue, 11/16/2010 - 22:25 | 733096 Buck Johnson
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How in gods name is Ireland going to payback the loans and also do austerity with a population less than Greece.  Their population is a tad over 6 million individuals. 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 00:06 | 733240 palmereldritch
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OK. I'm late to this thread...

How many ways have I missed the term frosted lucky charms ?


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