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Watch Live As Protesting London Students Besiege Houses Of Parliament
As English students continue their protest over tuition rate hikes, a protest that started over a month ago and which has at times turned violent, they have now surrounded the Houses of Parliament as politicians pretend to discuss a matter which is basically a fait accompli. It is expected that a resolution on the student hike may be reached shortly. Watch the protest live below via Sky News. At last check some barricades were being taken down rather violently...
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useful idiots
The police, the politicians or the students? You didn't say which were the useful idiots.
the rent-a-mob junior communist's
I bet u believe the us is capitalism. Lol.
This Irishman is far more eloquent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koY6kXhQDQo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Gotta love the paint-filled balloons being hurled. Would like to see more of that. Obsfucate the view of the royal guards is a great idea indeed.
I thought so, but I wanted to make sure. Regardless of what you think these students are or what they represent, at least they're willing to make some noise and fight for what they believe in. Too bad you don't have the balls to back up your bite. You're now welcome to return to your individual sheep pen.
if you enjoyed the prequel, you'll love the sequel!
"Riots!"
coming soon, to an american establishment near you..
You say 'at least they're willing to make some noise and fight for what they believe in.'
And what would that be, CD?
A two-year-old does the same thing, for the same reason, doesn't he?
Since when do male glands determine the correctness of a budget dispute?
The lowest common denominator always gets a growl of approval doesn't it?
Francismarion, either you are very new to ZH or you don't read sooo goooood.
Neither one. Just try to figure out whose ox is getting gored and who wants more free money.
Just like a two year old wants candy and will rage to get it.
Get it?
These 'students' rampage has nothing to do with rights or justice and everything to do with more now lots immediately me get mine quick.
But it does make a great platform to orate and posture for the cynical and the witless.
Rage on.
If their tax money gets spent to bail out financial institutions of course they have the right to free education or whatever the fuck they want. Its their money, and who do you think will pay for that free education ? They will with taxdollars. Education isn't candy, its an investment in the future.
You think any of these greasebags pay taxes?
Pathetic.
The taxpayers are at work, making money to pay taxes. That's where taxes come from. Get a job.
So they are going to college and will not pay taxes after they are employed? Illogical.
lol your not seriously comparing the sentiments of these students to a ranting 2 year old are you?
Precisely.
Long haired overfed leaping gnomes.
Lern two spel.
That's odd because I see females protesting as well as males. But thanks for the straw-man argument.
You got 'the balls' rolling. Squeal on.
The young are not the most screwed by all this corruption and collapse? You make no sense. It's just that kind of dismissive, arrogant attitude that get the elders in lots and lots of trouble
The young have the rest of their lives to make something of themselves.
Enough with the generational warfare codswallop. Everyone is getting it in the neck.
The money is GONE!
I agree that generational warfare is bunk and a useful tool for control, but these students do not appear to be engaging in generational warfare. The money isn't gone. It just been moved somewhere else. Since dialog hasn't worked, these students have decided on a different form of communication.
People don't get it. Sadly even here on ZH. That's why we're getting global communism next.
I agree with you that these kids are useful idiots. They're being used to crush "capitalism" which doesn't exist, for a while now. We had all these social programs and pyramid schemes for years and years and ran all the western countries into the ground and where were they then? When money was coming, nobody asked where it's coming from but now that the bill came due and the thieves collected their loot, these kids are running around asking for their share, not for justice, for their share!
This is why schools are crap, people don't learn anything useful.
I would agree with the whole violence deal because I think there's no other way, but only if they were to demand crooks be brought to justice and forced to repay what they stole. But no, nobody's asking for that. They want their cheap/free "education" and more government control. Useful idiots.
francismarion, I'm shocked at all your junkings.
These brats should get leave the barricades and start searching for sugar daddies and cougars if they don't want to pay their way. Wankers and wankettes, the lot of them. Turn out the lights, the party's over.
Generally speaking I agree with your point, however I believe some of these students were demanding free tuition. That ain't exactly noble or worth glorifying.
So a few entirely disable the message of the many? Nope, I don't buy that.
And I was not glorifying the few nor the many. I was saying that they were standing up for what they believed in. Which is much more than what most of the talkers and barkers in the USA are doing.
They are standing up for getting more of someone else's money. How noble. And brave.
I thought that was a bad idea, to hear some of the whining that goes on here about the wicked wicked bankers.
Despite my name, I despise anarchy. How dare these spoiled brats go around smashing store windows and such! Destroying the property of hard working people. If they want to vent, go smash up the Parliment building, smash up Buckingham Palace and loot THAT! TPTB want us to rise up so that they can then squash us, don't you understand? They want rioting in the streets so we'll cry out for protection and then they can 'take care' of us and remove all of our birth rights for a little security. Ben Franklin had it right.
ps: Students in the USSA would LOVE to pay at the UK tuition rate. You can't even attend a state college here at those prices. Insufferable babies....
Who is paying the rent for the junior communists?
CD - He is obviously referring to the chaps in uniform..
His comment would have at least made sense of that was who he was referring to. But we both know what he meant and he just confirmed it. I suggested he return to his individual sheep pen because he's displaying the mind of a pacified and conditioned wool producer.
+1
It's good to see the students stand up, before they have to bend over.
I liked the big sign "We are NOT Your Slaves!" I will be saving that slogan for the protests and riots here.
You are the one with the conditioned response. Grow a brain. That thing between your legs is something else.
well, what if you weren't born with a thing between yor legs. does that make you a less of a human being?
My wife always says she "doesn't have a third leg to stand on"
The very fact that you see this as a "male" thing exposes you for the moron you are. You might want to stop playing with your unit and begin applying some critical thinking to the subject. But I suspect I'm asking too much.
Mammals need to both drink water and breathe air. This chap is attempting to make due with CO2 and water extraction via gerbervoreism. Tragic, but helpful to witness an example on occasion.
You are the one that started 'the balls' rolling, look back and find it.
Funny how you squeal in dismay when you are outed and don't feel you need to think about what you're saying in response, just emote and wait for the gallery to roar approval.
You must be rich to feel you are able to get away with that.
Be careful some of the homicidal juvenile hoi-polio you are stirring up don't find you next.
Like I said, you're a moron.
The term "have some balls" is well understood to mean "have the courage", not have the male sexual organ. Would it have made more sense for me to say "have the ovaries"?
You present a straw-man argument in an attempt to distract. Your sheep pen awaits.
'...you're a moron.'
That is certainly dispositive.
'The term 'have some balls' is well understood to mean...'
Double talk. Back and fill.
'...a straw-man argument in an attempt to distract.'
Distract from what? Your hyperventilation? That is the point, CD.
'Your sheep pen awaits.'
Again, crushing irrefutability. Your insipid comment is the sound of a squeal from another barn-yard beast.
You only run up against reason and sanity when you advocate violence. Civil protest against an empty cupboard is childish, futile and destructive.
'...you're a moron.'
That is certainly dispositive.
'The term 'have some balls' is well understood to mean...'
Double talk. Back and fill.
'...a straw-man argument in an attempt to distract.'
Distract from what? Your hyperventilation? That is the point, CD.
'Your sheep pen awaits.'
Again, crushing irrefutability. Your insipid comment is the sound of a squeal from another barn-yard beast.
You only run up against reason and sanity when you advocate violence. Civil protest against an empty cupboard is childish, futile and destructive.
Yes, I guess you're correct. Protest and civil disobedience no longer have any place in this world because the cupboard is empty. Time to roll over and spread my ass cheeks just like you and learn to love my abuse.
Please master, may I have K-Y?
A pity so many feel that kind of public expression is acceptable.
You're not in the street, you're posing.
Why not tell the Parliament how to solve the problem if you really care? Rage and riot shut down reasoned discourse. At least when you try to be constructive you take away a weapon from your detractor.
But you don't really care, do you?
This must be the waiting room for the rehearsals for 'Idiocracy II'.
I guess the students feel that Parliment has stopped listening to them on a wide variety of issues. It is unclear to me at least how violence entered the equation.
I would say that having your tuition tripled is sufficient reason for protesting. What would you do if petrol were suddenly hiked to 6 pounds per litre? You'd be the one bitching and moaning I'm sure. Please talk your self righteous bullshit somewhere else. It's bad enough putting up with Wanger and Co.
An annihilating demonstration of reasoning from yet another brainiac, 'absinthe minded.' QED.
If this is what the tuition increases will leave us with, I'll change my mind.
They're fighting for their rights. These kids protesting inherit the shit everyone made for them. Maybe there's hope.
You won't see this in the us on tv. Cnbs saying stocks looking up after bte claims.
we are no longer that generation that is going to sit back and take whatever they give us!
WOW. 15 year old brit mesmerized crowd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U_gHUiL4P8
the young are the only ones where I have half a hope left.
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I just listened to one student being interviewed. He said that he was protesting all the cuts across the board, including National Healthcare and Welfare. He said he will "NOT STAND FOR THE MASS CUTS."
It's a shame that the Marxist Welfare state has to collapse on THEIR heads - but what many of these students want is for the government to kick the can down the road so that the system collapses on the heads of their children instead of collapsing on their own heads.
I can't wait for the monetary global hyperinflation when all of these Marxist ideas finally see their end.
no, they don't want tuition hikes while their country continues to bail out the bankers with the tax money.
You make a good point there too. However, do you hear or see any of the students protesting the bankers bailout?
exactly, they just want their piece of the loot
Nigel Lawson once said something along the lines of "if we want the government out of our pockets, we should remove our hands from the government's pockets." These kid's hearts are in the right place (I think) but their heads aren't.
And I agree flacon, their end goal is to keep the good times rolling for themselves.
> "if we want the government out of our pockets, we should remove our hands from the government's pockets."
That about sums it up.
The amount of money the students wish to take from the government's pocket pales in comparison to that taken by the banks. Further the money they get will get them educated and will help build this country. The bankers appear to have destroyed the entire world's economy.
As someone who has put the money in the government's pocket, that is to say it's my money, I say educate the kids and give the banks a haircut. And since I'm being ignored, someone has to send a different message.
+++
We'll see this soon enough, we're building enough of a welfare state that when we finally pull the plug, they will riot too...
It's not the kind of rioting that I hoped for, would love to see it before that...
welfare? do you mean the $9 trillion in zero interest loans to the fortune 100 companies, courtesy of the federal reserve bank?
To be fair - their tuition is really low and needs to be raised. If the information I read was correct. However the real point is that no one thinks they have to pay for the services the government provides as if it is magic money(like the FED) and not tax payer money that pays for these things.
I hope these protesters remembered to empty their bank accounts first before the government freezes em for daring to speak up & protest.
Until they line them up on the front steps and chop off their heads nothing will change there, here, or anywhere. Not advocating violence, just saying...
Don't forget their "government" took away their ability to "keep and bear arms". I guess they will have to fight with rocks and sticks?
What is the antecedent to the pronoun in your ferocious titter? Are you suggesting the protesters cut off their own heads? That would solve the problem, wouldn't it?
edit: Until they (the people) line "them" (the politicians) up on the front steps (of the parliament, crapitol hill, whatever...) and chop off "their" (miscreant politico's) heads nothing will change there, here, or anywhere. Not advocating violence, just saying...
Forgive the grammatical transgression, for we are but humble proles before you Lord Fauntleroy.
Who the fuck let you out from the production set of Masterpiece Theater?
Lighten up, Francis.
Attack me. I am here.
Too bad your gyrocopter has a lawn-mower blade propeller and a pie-pan rudder. This has got to be the Dr. Seuss hour.
Pathetic.
Some people are mad that the government is looting every productive person and enterprise and draining the wealth out of the economy.
These students, on the other hand, are mad that the looting is not even bigger.
"Where's my handout?!?"
At least the students are discovering where the juice is. Funding city bonuses takes priority over an educated society. A now proven fact of life
"You are about to be told one more time that you are America's most valuable natural resource. Have you seen what they do to valuable natural resources?! Have you seen a strip mine? Have you seen a clear cut in the forest? Have you seen a polluted river? Don't ever let them call you a valuable natural resource! They're going to strip mine your soul. They're going to clear cut your best thoughts for the sake of profit unless you learn to resist."
U Utah Phillips, RIP.
And now I see you appreciate the root of my autodidactism.
Well said.
Lame bounce in metals overnight. Not a good setup for today. Silver has support and uptrend at 26.75. Good luck.
Got caught short, didn't you?
Look at the silver chart again. Just a repeat of mid-November lows. Same damn pattern. Better cover now!
and gordo brown's bio hits bookstores today....says he was "misled" by RBS...
hope these kids understand exactly where the money went, and why the state can't maintain its universities any longer...
hope they grasp that bankers' homes, yachts, and private jets are WAY< WAY more important that their futures......
or the future of any peasant for that matter.
What, no news about Wikileaks today yet, Tyler? People hope you haven't given up reporting about the universal goodness and shrewdness of it.
WikiLeaks cable: Hollywood helping to stop the spread of terrorism
"...American film and television programs are doing more to dissuade young Muslims from becoming jihadists than virtually anything else" http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20101208/ts_yblog_thelookout/wikileaks-cable-hollywood-helping-to-stop-the-spread-of-terrorism
The police are protecting an increasingly unresponsive royalty from the students.
Anyone know why they are tripling tuition fees? This is how stupid the cabinet minister is, I mean most places have gradual increases to avoid shit like this as opposed to all of a sudden tripling fees. What a bunch of dumb shits, riot away.
because they can't leave tuition the same, benefits the same, etc. AND bailout the bankers. so guess what...
Why do all the protests have to be so far from home? At this point, I'd support the rights of ferrets if only there was some civil disobedience involved. Meds and gym workouts aren't cutting it anymore. I need a serious energy release.
Signed,
All geared up and no where to go
Don't worry, California will be next.
Promise?!! I can just take the bus to that one. Don't want to scratch my new Volt.
NO IT WON't!
The recession ended in June 2009 here in the United States. Be glad it is over!
Raising my kids during a Depression and possible world war would have been absolutely horrific.
The laws of Macro Economics are being rewritten before your very eyes.
WE can and will grow out of debt. Print the rest (no one besides ZH and .5% of the population knows about QE).
ObAMA'S NEW economic advisor, Austin G, presented the math and anyalsis.
2011 is shaping up to be a great year for the Republic!
No "Double-Dip".
Obvious retard is obvious.
You are either a troll or you are high on crack.
California just declared an economic state of emergency, they ran out of money. No money to pay for anything. They have borrowed $160 BILLION to fund deficit spending, now they are broke. There will be riots in Kalifornia as soon as the welfare checks bounce, bet on that!
Maybe we need to fire up our sarcasm meters.
Live BBC News: http://atdhe.net/watch-bbc-news.php
I wonder if any of the students are packing heat?
.......oh, that's right.
Come back tomorrow. Everyone one of them will be back to tea and crumpets.
First, isn't throwing a missile incredibly inefficient?
Second, again, more protests in favor of entitlements... guys, I hate to break it to you, but you should have learned a very important lesson a long time ago... there is no free lunch. Until you decide to protest in favor of austerity, your cries will be hypocritical at best. In other words, instead of protesting over raises in college tuition, you should be protesting, for example, about the ~50% of school staff and facilities that have been rendered completely unnecessary thanks to the downturn in the world's economy... you probably know some of them... they may even be your immediate family members and friends... unfortunately, you can either choose for them to keep their standards of living or you can choose cheaper tuition... your choice (in all likelihood, neither is possible, but I'm giving the benefit of the doubt).
How about military budget cuts, parliament entitlement cuts as well as perks and pay, no bailouts to financial institutions, and start cutting at the top instead of the bottom. If this happened I don't think you would see so much protesting when and if they had to impose entitlement cuts to the common man. At least they would have taken the hypocrisy out of the equation. BTW I didn't junk you.
Cuts and cuts for all. The problem would be, of course, that as the pork at the top gets cut, so too would the pork for the bottom of the totem pole. In other words, extended unemployment, medicare/medicaid, social security, retirements, wellfare, you name it. Debt destruction is a scortched earth policy...
This predicament is understood well by all... and explains most actions.
I think the opposite of most... we should cheer on all who seek, at this juncture, to expand the scope of moral hazard and spend with reckless abandon. Obviously, given the wealth gap, I would hope the lower tiers would get the lion's share of the love, but that's unlikely. In a perfect scenario, you would essentially have a slow, but steady trickle of borrowed cash flowing to the lower tier [who set up entities of their own to shield the losses and ultimately siphon the money to themselves with the least of risk], making up the difference in the wealth gap after they convert their new spoils into real assets. If this did begin though, skynet would abort and dump the currency for real assets so as to mitigate damages of those still dumb enough to be holding hot potatoes.
Regardless, the road to austerity is going to be like a diabetus ridden quadrapalegic with down syndrome trying to climb everest without a sherpa to drag his ass up the mountain (simpsons). Austerity only prolongs the pain. I think it's time we embrace moral hazard and rack up the debt... on every conceivable level, including holding others hostage for our debt repayments... this should have a much quicker effect on collapse...
Come on the pork at the top doesn't get cut (if anything only shifted), and the ones that suffer are the poorest.
Sort of. So long as there is a minority middle class, they suffer the most and once they can no longer bear the burden, they become part of the lowest class... and then the free cake gets cut off... until of course, we get an apetite for the upper crust... whether it be through pitchforks or collective bargaining.
A question:
Is it "acceptable" (not the right word) for people to promote a violent response to the actions of the banksters and their government proxies?
Acceptable or not, it is the only way to change the status quo.
Violence begets the "strong-man." Hit these people where it really hurts...their pocketbooks. Stop buying their shit (including money), stop eating at their establishments, stop working for them, and close down the Washinton Mall by the millions...on a weekday. The message will be heard. I for one would welcome the opportunity to watch the royalty survive a breakdown of the just-in-time food conveyor.
http://www.guardiansofliberty.org/index.html
Agree totally, the power is ours through unity.
Kinda like opec? Good in a textbook, destined for failure in real life (cheating countries that break promised quotas).
OPEC's unity was broken when the Saudis sold out to the U.S.. OTH One simple example is the southern Black American's boycott of the public bus system because of discrimination. They had to relent or go broke, and you know the rest of the story. Is that in the textbook?
Sometimes collusion works long enough to accomplish its intended goal... sometimes it falls short...
My guess is that we (the scrubs) will be fighting each other far too often and much to unite against our common enemies. I'll be pleasantly surprised if I am incorrect.
Just schedule mid-terms for days they've arrainged to go smash things. That should settle the issue one way - or the other.
If government doesn't give me other people's money, I'm going to throw a temper tantrum and break things.
Look out, Michael.suede, or you are going to be JUNKED!!! These desperados are revolutionaries!!! Revolutionaries with pot-bellies and daddies' credit card. They have a CAUSE!!! They are worms in the apple that don't want the light of day to hit them.
We will have our way or look out!!! But not today. I'll just huff and puff and let everyone know I'm in the 'in crowd.'
Nihil novum sub sole.
I think he was quoting Jamie Dimon, not the Queen's prized cattle.
Some of that money is my money. I want the kids to have it.
Now I know why we won the war. Revolutionary, that is. Quite the intelllect though, what a waste.
I know, I spelled intellect with three L's. I figured would point it out before the professor did. Sorry for the fat finger.
If the kids don't get educated, they don't get jobs. If they don't get jobs, they don't earn wages and pay taxes. If wages don't get earned and taxes don't get paid, I have no employees, my stocks don't go up, my bonds deflate and my pension doesn't get paid.
I like getting my shoes shined, but I don't need a dozen guys lining up to do it.
Are you implying that farmers, carpenters, masons, plumbers, builders and anyone doing a any kind of craft but not necessary finished school don't have an actual job, don't earn wages or pay taxes?