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Watch Netanyahu's Address To Congress Live
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is set to address congress in a widely expected speech, the key focus of which will be to diffuse the situation following the president's remarks from last week over what the appropriate borders for the Israeli state should and should not be. As Reuters reports: "When Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addresses Congress on Tuesday, many will be
watching to see whether he escalates a war of words with the White House
over how to make peace in the Middle East. Netanyahu has a mostly sympathetic ear in
Congress, where few lawmakers in either party speak up for the
Palestinians, hewing to decades of close U.S.-Israeli ties. But
the Israeli prime minister has had a rocky relationship with President
Barack Obama, and last week said the president's vision of a Palestinian
state based on the borders of 1967 could leave Israel "indefensible."" Watch the full thing below.
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What's up with the 10 minute non-stop applause?!
Also what was that protestor saying?
She called Netanyahu a war criminal.
Nice.
reminds one of speaches from the soviet era. " we have exceeded the production norms of the 5 year plan by 783 percent, long live the soviet union" two days later theyare still clapping.
Too easy.
What are REAL democratic rights?
Article addressing "Bibi's" lecture to Americans:
http://incogman.net/05/2011/israeli-jew-bibi-netanyahu-lectures-america/
Israel and US have REAL democracy where you can protest?
Like the Republican National Convention - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqEXGp6zt08
And the Denocratic National Convention - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb7bqnHm8nM
Or the G20 in Pittsburgh - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb7bqnHm8nM
Stay in your FUCKING FREE SPEACH ZONES MONKEYS!!!! Freedom indeed.
Isreal is a 'democracy' where the people who disagreed have been driven from their land at gun point.
We pay those bunch of clowns to give standing ovations? Repeated standing ovations? They do this for the President and any other schmuck that stands up in front of them. Kind of like when the Communist Party leaders give a speech in front of their own puppet legislatures. God, it's sickening.
this is actually an excellent chance for the american public to see who the politicians really serve. a fookin disgrace.
"Watch Netanyahu's Address To Congress Live"????
Uh...no thank you. I'd rather stick hot needles in my eyes then rinse them out with muriatic acid.
I'm sure the Mossad has some clever "enhanced interrogation" techniques that would be equally pleasant.
what a joke .. US President is out of country and Israel has hijacked US congress.
nah, id rather watch Obama getting stuck in Irleand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ5uJqSdF40
An extremist talking about the threat posed by extremists.
The irony is almost tangible.
By the way:
China openly threatening the U.S. with war in case of an attack on Pakistan !
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,764628,00.html
China threatening the US with war is nothing new and so absurd only fools talk about it.
The best they can do is proxy war of pretty damn low intensity.
Yawn.
"Iran could do this with nukes, Iran could do that with nukes. Blah Blah Blah". Israel could do that too, because they actually have nukes, unlike Iran. Israel attacks everyone. This is surreal. Listen to these pathetic sheep clapping at cartoonish propaganda.
Mordechai Vanunu comes to mind.
He's still in prison by the way.
Don't forget Ernst Zundel
Canada is a neutral country, although they would no doubt cheerfully send some troops to assist in a humanitarian capacity.
Agreed.
They certainly didn't mind illegally extraditing EZ to Europe for his "crimes" against "humanity".
Nope, he's stuck in Jerusalem looking for a country to accept him.
Re. Mordechai Vanunu - last time I checked, he was under house arrest for talking to a foreign reporter.
<I'm a man>
http://www.entendance.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=776&p=17178#p17178
From what I remember from my Poly Sci classes, one of the absolute necessities of a nation-state was definable borders. Other than the biblical pronouncement of Genesis (all land between the Nile and the Euphraties) Just exactly where are Israel's borders today? Are they in fact a nation-state? Or are no more than a raiding band like the mongols of old? Milestones
it was no coincidence that Orwell published 1984 in 1948... the year that the U.N. sold out the palestian people and created israhell. Orwell knew exactly what was going on, then and now.
- George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 3
. . . and should anyone's mind pester them with conflicting memories, the fluoride in the water and aluminum in the air will bind in their bodies and remove the thorns of restless thinking.
>> one of the absolute necessities of a nation-state was definable borders.
Funny that didn't seem to really apply to the USA during the 19th Century now did it? Manifest Destiny.
Borders change. Gadsden Purchase is what all the Aztlan lovers never want to talk about.
I guess we need to give the Louisiana territory back to France, and Alaska back to Russia.
Not in the same category. The U.S. did up grade it territories as it seized them--not with due diligence I agree. Israel has never done so and will not until they get all the territory plus, plus spelled out in Genesis; which they conviently wrote, and you will note they made it known very, very early in Genesis who was on a first name basis with G--d and who was going to be the first in line at the dance. Milestones
ThIt sounds to me like Obama knew he could never get congress to ok a war with Iran so he gets Netanyahu to speak with congress to try to justify an attack.
Strange then he totally failed to support the Green Revolution.
The Iranian Spring died in the crib, and Barry played golf.
What a world.......here you have a mega anti-semite, hiding under the umbrella of anti-semitism, telling a bunch of guttless wonders to write more checks in order to kill more semites.......beam me the fuck up.
I realize you are new here, Red, but could you clarify that statement just a tad? I may not be the only one not following your logic.
Red is probably referring to this... and the fact that almost all Palestinians are "Semetic".
But Jews own the term anti Semetic. To set them aside from everyone else and have their own victim title to use just like the race card.
Yeah, this subject really does pit neighbor against neighbor, and probably will until the last Muslim is hung with the entrails of the last Jew.
I've stopped counting how many Lefties that I would accept as fellow travelers because they "get it" on the issue of big.gov interference in their bedrooms can't get over this hurdle.
The same applies to Righties that "get it" on economic issues, but insist that they are the "chosen" because the first half of the book says so.
What a world. Glad I bought a ticket.
they also own "victim" and "holocaust."
In fact, in Defamation, you can watch the ADL chief telling the President of Ukraine *not* to equate the slaughter of like 20 million of their people by the Russians to the slaughter of less than 1/3 of that figure by the nazis. In other words, don't try to link yourself to us, don't use this word, they're not comparable, they could never be comparable.
dub
The Netanyahus of the world would have us believe that “they” are owed the Palestinian region because of a biblical promise made by god to those people whose heritage goes back the ancient Semitic language area.
Netanyahus heritage comes from Europe and most likely from the Kazarian kingdom, which has no blood connection to the biblical Israelite…..(true Semites). This is true for 90% of the "Jews" in Israel. He uses “anti-semite” like an umbrella……do a search for “It’s a trick, We always use it.”
The Palestinians are true Semites, for obvious reasons.
The “gutless wonders” are our congress critters who fund the killing of Semites (the Palestinians) under the guise of fighting anti-Semitism. Clear as mud I know.
The US Secretary of State speaks.
WASHINGTON (AP) — A heckler briefly interrupted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech to Congress before U.S. Capitol police removed the protester from the chamber.
As Netanyahu was addressing a joint meeting of Congress, a woman in the gallery stood and shouted, "no more occupation, end Israeli war crimes."
Police immediately hustled her out of the gallery and Netanyahu continued speaking.
that woman is a f'ing HERO.
I'm sure she's now enjoying her freedom.
Heroic act. Who is she?
did he just quote the bible...
new testament? lulz
How many here know that Netanyahu's real last name is Pinsky - he changed his name to Netanyahu to sound more authentically Israeli.
What ? Really ?
No, not reallly. It's BS.
shopping malls, banks, movie theaters.....you muther ucker...western shit ruining the world
How can one respond to such a exhibition of power over the Gentiles ?
Its magnificent in its absurdity - I am effectivally speechless - the language is alien to me.
"They have shopping malls......................."
havent you heard...shopping is the apex of human civilization. Its the mark of a advanced country.
MADNESS I TELL YOU...MADNESS.
Especially if you know what is really going on...this is utter bullshit.
Does anyone know anything about those symbols on the wall behind the speaker. The Fascist symbolism? wtf are they about, or just nice decoration....fucks with your head when you see them.
should we call this bibi's money shot?
He could offer them a real money shot and they would gleefully slurp it down while applauding like a bunch of trained monkeys.
Nothing to see here, just the Big Boss coming to town to address the workers. Any guesses as to how many times he uses the word "Holocaust"?
Professional victims, feel sorry for us.
If they stopped screwing people over, taking land, lying and creating wars they would get more respect. Instead they rely on misinformation and manipulate the law. Did you know if you disagree with their definition to the holocaust, it's considered a thought crime in some countries?
A thought crime, in this day and age.
So jews are either professional victims or taking over the world?
And i think the crime is denying that that holocaust occured. But i would love to hear what your defination of killing 6 million people is.
Too many it seems.
The definition of killing 6M people is war, dear. Simply war. Remember that the next time you support the longest military occupation in modern history.
Wait, are you talking about the Israelis... or the Americans?
Doesnt matter. They are both owned by the same Jewish crooks.
Then you're gonna love this...
"[...]Israelis love children and have lots of them because they are happy, optimistic and prosperous. Most of Israel's population increase comes from so-called "secular" Israelis, who have 2.6 children on average, more than any other people in the industrial world. The ultra-Orthodox have seven or eight, bringing total fertility to three children.
Europeans, Turks and Iranians, by contrast, have very few children because they are grumpy, alienated and pessimistic. It's not so much the projection of the demographic future cranked out by the United Nations computers that counts, but rather the implicit vision of the future in the minds of today's prospective parents."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/ME24Ak01.html
I made an Uncle Remus Fav Folder in my laptop.. for all the links you post and I am stalking you backwards to get all of them that I dont have!
You Rock! Dont EVER! Stop!
More standing ovations by Congress than for Obama
More support by Congress than Obama
A shoe-in for our next President
Birth certificate forgers now hard at work
Interesting that Barry Soetoro fled town...
Agreed. And how 'bout that fake Ireland bs? I'm happy he had to get off the island ahead of schedule. They said it was the volcano, but more likely too many people laughing in his face.
Paging Ahhnolt.
Dup
The WH certainly moved quickly to dispel any notion of a scintilla of disharmony with Israel. Could the subjugation of our legislature be any more painfully obvious to an observant American?
AIPAC
I will go out on a limb here and GUARANTEE you that someone has contacted the ADL and they have logged in their systems every single one of these ZH posts that do not gush praise for Israel as an example of "antisemitism."
That way they can blather about how rabidly alive antisemitism still is, thus circularly justifying their reason for existing.
yes megaphone is alive and well and the sayanim are here, trying to discredit as much as possible.......as
former israeli government official explains to amy goodman how the term "anti semitic" is used and why....
always.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUGVPBO9_cA
Thanks HPD and thanks to the former israeli government official who proves once again that
Zionism ≠ Judaism
zionism = judaism = communism.
Any rift caused by Obama's "history/geo-political geography lesson" will blow over when the US goes to war with Pakistan.
with all of these new muslim enemies they are cooking up now, how can they continue on with this perpetual war, without instituting a draft? they have worn out our armies now, sending people on mulitple tours in a war theatre, and all of them are sick and messed up now in so many ways. where are they going to get the warm bodies for these adventures?
They took us to war in Iraq…hundreds of thousands of innocent villagers slaughtered by the high tech weapons of a superpower acting on fraudulently prepared evidence delivered by a once-revered General Powell.
It’s the War Party. The Hannities, Limbaughs, Drudges, Krauthammers…Fox News, The Associated Press and Reuters…all the transit lines for the Likud message in America…forever pushing AIPAC’s deliberate mistranslation of President Obama’s speech.
How much more American sacrifice is required to eliminate Israel’s enemies all around the world?
The President’s empty promises to support some Palestinian talking points were repositioned by these Zionists mouthpieces as a frightening attack on Israel. Obama’s commitments to Israel, which will be backed by the most Zionist-occupied American government ever, were ignored altogether by these paid propagandists. Consider this true appraisal from the Jewish site Haaretz: “Obama granted Netanyahu a major diplomatic victory”…accepting “his procedural and security demands.” Said Haaretz: “Netanyahu could not have asked for more.”
The truth, as the AIPAC worshipers well know, is that Obama, like most of the Congressional leaders, is in the tank for an aggressive Israel, keeping a status quo to allow expanding settlements, massive military and financial aid for Israel, and a continued emphasis on a “non-militarized” Palestine, regardless of the words the President uses.
Apparently when George Mitchell saw what Obama had in mind for his upcoming AIPAC examination moment, he could stand the hypocrisy no longer; even this was too much for the veteran compromiser to swallow. He saw the need to bail while he still had a little credibility left.
All this comes following Obama’s triple-play to prove to every doubter that he’s not a secret Muslim. His All-American birth certificate pops up just before our gunslinger leader plugs the toughest Muslim who ever lived. And now the President has brought on his own dramatic version of his “Roots” saga, not with a return to Africa ala Alex Haley, but a return to Ireland, Mr. Obama’s beloved ancestral home, visiting the tiny village where his great, great, great grandfather was born.
All this work to re-establish his credibility so he can pretend to be tough on Israel - and all the while the ruse is lost in the realities of Zionist Washington.
Al Jazeera made the same observation after hearing Obama's speech to AIPAC. In my opinion, the two speeches by Obama and the one by Netanyahu increase the odds of a war with Israel and it's neighbors.
tin foil hat time, but if you trace obummer's mother's lineage carefully, and connect a few loose dots, you find ashkenzi jewish roots. what a total shock.
israel before AL QUEDA WORLD DOMINATION
- and the congress goes wild
Had to stop watching, the man spews forth lies, and half truths, and watching congress get up and clap every two seconds made me hurl. The nation of Israel is doomed. It's sad really. They won the war and all they have to do is give back a little land and it would be over, but their own paranoias are going to do what the PLO couldn't do during the 50's and 60's, and that is to destroy Israel as a nation.
Really amazing irony, let's see, if Israel could have come into existence durin the 19th centrury, they could have just killed every man woman and child and then did like the Turks and say, "what? Who?" The desert was empty and I made it bloom, yadda yadda yadda.....
The applause… The applause... I despise seeing my government down on its knees. Netanyahu is a soldier; he kills, that’s what his dad does. Thank God they’re up against an astronomical tide – the world is against them.
Again, things are not what they seem. Look up who the leaders were of the Young Turks. It's not who you thoght. Even on such a benign source as Wiki this stuff is ghastly.
It is even worse than you think
The Spies Who Got Away: AIPAC
“Again I ask the question: What do the Israelis have on our politicians that makes them such whores? Dirty pictures? Threats of withholding campaign contributions? It’s really embarrassing as well as infuriating to see congress with its collective pants down around their legislative ankles just waiting for Israel to do it again.”
One of our diplomats once asked an Israeli diplomat, off the record, we give you 90% of our secrets, why do you spy on us?
The sincere anwer was, "We want it all".
And when Israel DID give up a "little land" so it would be "over", as you have claimed, as in Gaza and Southern Lebanon, they received 12,000 rockets raining down upon their homes and children.
If ignorance is bliss, you must be elated!
And then were blamed for leaving Gaza creating a power vacuum creating Gazastain. Its always the Jews fault.
why don't they go back to europe and russia and get off of other people's land? simple enough isn't it? how about if a bunch of jews came to amerika and said, hey we want mississippi? what then? so they come in and start killing blacks and whites and taking lands. same difference. they have no right to that land. none. they are not the children of the Book, not by a long shot. They are not even technically jewish. How can they be? Jewish people died and were absorbed a long time ago. All of these people are converts to judaism and they use the Bible to give themselves a air of legitimacy but in secret they could care less about that Book. Stupid Christian zionist buy into the story and give these charlatans money. Its insane. The Christians help the very people who will in the end destroy them.
"If ignorance is bliss, you must be elated!" - sbenard
Speak for yourself.
You ignore the continuous blockade, bombings, and assassinations conducted by the Israeli apartheid regime.
The "12,000 rockets =they hit me first argument" does not stand up under scrutiny.
So, it's vital that (1) Palestine is demilitarized, (2) Palestinians choose peace, and (3) national security forces exist for the preservation of peace. Similar premises didn't work out well for the Native Americans, but no one in congress gets scalped any more, so they seem to be approve of the strategy. Might is right, bitchez.
pure class bibi, great speech, pleasure to watch a professional give an inspiring oratory
"I am willing to make painful compromises to achieve this historical peace".
Now this is not easy for me. It's not easy, because I recognize that in a genuine peace we will be required to give up parts of the ancestral Jewish homeland"
That's pure class and great speech?
Never ceases to amaze me, your spewing forth hutzpah and lies and then basking in the afterglow of your self-importance. Masters of the world given to you by your beloved Yahweh, huh? Fucking hilarious.
Netanyahu's speech was educational, insightful, historically accurate, and respectful, even of the Arabs who have sought to annihilate his people. Yours wasn't. Yours was disrespectful, profane, coarse, and crude.
You may not believe him, but the history of Israel and of Netanyahu is supportive of what he said, not what you said. Just because you disbelieve him doesn't mean he is what you want to think of him, or that he is inaccurate. It tells us about you, not him.
Careful now! You haven't revealed anything of Bibi's character here. You've revealed your OWN!
I couldn't care less than squat for "Bibi" and just about any other Zionist in the world, whether they are of sephardic or ashkenazic origin. And nothing of what he said was "educational", don't make me laugh. I am however heartened to see that more people wake up to the lies, deceit and manipulation by Zionists like your beloved Bibi. It is a revelation to see how your web of lies is unraveling.
This never gets old...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNAHjsAnTd4
I had to stop watching after the second time both aisles lept to their feet to applaud what was non-descript political gibberish. Scary, really, how well-conditioned our 'representatives' (or is that 'our' representatives) are...
get on your knees postban,
take a pull
off of the glass cock
and then go back to sleep.......
U.S. Christians see themselves/Christianity as children/child of Judaism.
This primitive/false percetion produces their exagerated submissiveness -
toward and "blind faith" respect for all things Israeli.
Don't think that is the case. Israel is a democracy which has been an ally to the US for years. Yes we give them substantial foreign aid as we have to numerous other countries. The Palestinians have had substantial aid from numerous Arab countries and continue to be exploited by them for sheer political purposes. How about letting the refugees emigrate to Saudi Arabia, Libya, Tunisia, Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc. Why aren't the Palestianian schools any better at turning out world class students? How about start up businesses. Why the constant internecine warfare between political groups? Could it be that the need to have a scapegoat (Israel) is more important to many Arab nations than the need to really help the Palestinians? As a Christian I know the difference between Judaism and Zionism. There are certainly worse nations we could support... oh, wait we do that too.
the israel I see is a fascist racist state and home base to the banker cabal that is destroying western society. this is no scapegoat issue. time for truth, the world has had enough.
As for being a democracy, Israel, as both Ayn Rand and Netanyahu have said, is a socialist state. The original founders and supporters of Israel were socialist almost to a man.
It is a parasitic state that grows fat on an endless stream of American taxpayers’ money in an endless stream of “aid,” both economic and military.
In an article titled “Netanyahu's Striking Stance," Karby Legget wrote: "Israel's finance chief has taken a pickax to picketing, confronting the nation's legions of strikers in a bid to reverse decades of socialism - and win the top job."
That was then: now Netanyahu’s back on track, with he and AIPAC’s billionaires demanding even higher taxes and "belt-tightening" and bloodshed from Americans while Israelis expand into new territory.
Israel has never been an ally of the U.S.
Just a "Special Releationship".
"Could it be that the need to have a scapegoat (Israel) is more important to many Arab nations ...?" - Greenhead
By "Arab nations" you must mean the despotic oligarchies and sheikhdoms that the US, Israel, and other European powers have installed and supported for decades in order to control the region's resources. Attempts to escape that control have been met with brutal countermeasures.
Unfortunately, "The evil men do lives after them" (as does the evil they continue to do).
No. Christians cut their ties with the Jews when they killed and sold out their messiah. It's only modern propaganda that's worked those bs ideals that Jews stand with Christians.
LET MY PEOPLE GO!
free DSK
hahahahaha
Does anyone listen to anyone anymore?
Did anyone even bother to listen to what the man said? Or is it that you have no critical capacity (that means that you don't even know how to think)?
I don't think any of the heroes who died in Normandy would have anything contrary to say. Think about that if you presume to be able to think, and then ask yourselves, if you don't agree with those who gave their lives on Omaha Beach, who the hell are you then?
Anyone want to know why America is going to hell in a hand basket? You need do no more than read the comments in this thread.
I'm sorry for you all, but I think everyone who built what was once a great nation, from the Founding Fathers to Martin Luther King, would say you well deserve it.
Don't despair.
A lot of the fools with the knee-jerk hate for Israel are moose limb and Aryan trolls. Seems kind of crazy that the Aryans today serve Islam.
Politics makes strange bedfellows. The Grand Mufti loved him some Hitler.
Grain of salt, etc.
But the Aryan Brotherhood is better known for its meth sales than its deep thought.
Indeed! Some Iranians claim to be of Aryan descent. Hence the name change from Persian to iran. Iran is farsi for "Aryan"!
I did not know that. Damn.
Holy shit, you are right.
fuckin dumbass...you might wanna educate yourself going forward
Oh, I am.
And I find I prefer any system better than sharia law.
If you have to make common cause with those who spread sharia, I will never fail to oppose you.
i would content that our 'western' global banking racketeering outfit is a pretty damn well fucked up system also.
Until the welfare state puts the government into needing to go hat in hand to the banks, the banks are toothless.
fail ass interwebs
Jewish author Emil Ludwig (b. Emil Cohn) stated that,
"Hitler will be forgotten in a few years, but he will have a beautiful monument in Palestine. You know the coming of the Nazis was rather a welcome thing. So many of our German Jews were hovering between two coasts; so many of them were riding the treacherous current between the Scylla of assimilation and the Charybdis of a nodding acquaintance with Jewish things. Thousands who seemed to be completely lost to Judaism were brought back to the fold by Hitler, and for that I am personally very grateful to him."—M. Steinglass, "Emil Ludwig before the Judge", American Jewish Times, (April, 1936), p. 35; as quoted in: L. Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators, Chapter 6, Croom Helm, London, L. Hill,
Outside of ZH and Tyler this sort of stuff is never discussed in important media.
I thank Zero Hedge and Tyler for informing...no wonder certain POWERFUL groups are very interested in this site.
It is a very INFORMATIVE place and that is what the elite DO NOT WANT HAPPENING.
War on Iraq how much did that cost--and WHY?
$3 Trillion, boy what a bargain!
Our ally, who needs enemies?
Precisely. The pressure of “powerful groups” is what happened to Antiwar.com’s investigative reporter Justin Raimondo on the HuffPo web site. Excerpt from a recent column :
“The smear campaign against me I don’t mind so much: it’s too absurd to be taken seriously, and, besides that, I never sought to become a ‘mainstream’ media ‘star.’ I have to say, however, when I was purged as a blogger from the Huffington Post, the reasons given to me by cult-follower Arianna Huffington were quite explicit: I’m too hard on Israel. A letter-writing campaign to get me off the site was apparently quite successful.
“I can live without being one of Arianna’s unpaid blog-slaves: the point is that, in Arianna’s world, the arbiters of political correctness and good taste have divined that I’m a purveyor of ‘conspiracy theories,’ to use her phrase. That’s code for any opinion that holds our elites responsible for the present state of the world. If Arianna wanted to stay a member in good standing of that elite – she once boasted about having the President’s personal phone number ensconced in her legendary Blackberry – I had to go, and go I did. --Justin Raimondo What We’re Up Against: The elites, the blacklist, and the “mainstream” media 05.18.11
http://antiwar.com/
let's see here...the dominant ethnicity in media is jews. The dominant in finance is jews. Dominant even in Congress.
WTF do you expect? This is LA COSA NOSTRA. It's an extended organized crime family.
This is what clans do; it's what the sicilians did here with their mobs. Was EVERY sicilian a mobster? No...but the top mobsters were all sicilians. Got it yet?
and this is one of the few sites on the net where the shills get their ass handed to them regularly. a welcome sanctuary.
What sort of government help..... US Tax Dollars should the US give Israel....
ie when batteries fully replace oil needs.....ie no further interest in THEIR strategic location......
Isn´t JewYorkCity a Jewish State which controls US Gentiles money .....no jail time for fraud etc......
Israeli propoganda is the gift that keeps on giving , eh I mean subtracting.
When will this spiritual torture end ?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ_D_ZVnHjM
Reading these comments I can't help to think that most of the commenters here are bunch of ignorant nuts who think they are in the know.
so come out from behind your sweeping generalisations and engage with ONE of them, see how well your smart comments stand up to ZH scrutiny. . .
The anti-Israel / anti-semetic clowns who love to bash Israel as a "war-mongering" Goliath oppressing the poor "Palestinians" or as willing surrogate of the US in the ME are either ignorant of the history of Israel, Islam and the ME or are simply Jew hating dolts who are dumb as a box of rocks. It would take up too much time and space to debunk the all the inane comments in this and similar threads, but suffice it to say that if these yokels lived in a USA that was the size of Rhode Island and it was surrounded by enemies who occupied the other 48 contiguous states who demanded that this USA give up 1/2 it's land mass for peace, knowing all along that the these other 48 states have publicly vowed to annihilate this tiny USA as it is demanded by their charter and their religious beliefs, how much land would you jackasses be willing to give up? Read some history for G-d sakes! Read "From Time Immemorial" by Joan Peters, a rabidly anti-Israel journalist who decided to find out for herself how evil Israel was and to prove the poor Palistinians had an historical and legal right to all of Israel. She was shocked at the real history she dug up and her book debunks all the BS you illiterate Jew haters spew with FACTS and paperwork to back them up. I know FACTS are like heresy today. Tough shit. I could go on and on with facts debunking all the BS I've read today, but what's the point when most of the Israel bashers could care less about facts and history?
agree 100% man. I can't stand the tard level here anytime this subject comes up. the anti-semitism here can be very ugly indeed.
I guess it depends on your defintion of the "facts" doesn't it?
Some of my of my closest friends who are Jewish abhor the Zionists that run Israel and the foreign policy of the USA.
In other words, you're view is propaganda to some people, and it has nothing to do with being anti semitic.
Seriously? Zionists haven't run Israel since the "peace process" began. Israel, as anyone who knows about the elite leftists who really run the place knows, is in its post-zionist phase. It's the elite oligarchy of Israel that gave us the peace process and continues to squawk that Israel will be just fine as long as she gives up more and more and gets less and less. As for the "Zionists" who run US foreign policy, you should read up a little on the US state dept's history of anti-Israel and anti-Jewish activities. Start with "The Secret War Against the Jews" and open up your eyes a little.
Hey Carl,
Not my job to convince you of anything. You say the the US State Dept. is "anti Israel"? What planet are you living on?
Secret War Against the Jews? No, I think you have it backwards.
No shit Bay,
poor Carl did you really think they are our friends?
Once again, have you read this book (or any other in depth study)? Come on, what you "think" is meaningless. What are facts on the ground? As you know, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.
Perhaps you missed the subtler point I was inferring by providing the two links I posted.
Allow me to explain.
In both instances, Israeli greed, and arrogance comes back to bite them. When they sold arms to the Chinese, they in turn sold to the Saudis.
Bad for Isael.
When they sell to the Russians, they in turn seek to sell to the Syrians.
Bad for Israel.
Are you sensing a pattern here?
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I get SICK of name slinging anytime criticism is directed at Israel. Since when did discussion and freedom of speech get a CARTE BLANCHE pass as hate speech or anti-semitism just because one objects to the original creation of Israel and the CRAP it created in the middle east? You do know that some of the VERY first terrorist activities in the world were by Israel, right? Or are we just not allowed to discuss FACTS?
Why don't you start with the Hebron massacre...long before modern terrorism and work your way back from there. You'll find the roots of "modern" terrorism in the illustrious history of Mohammed as chronicled in his book. Let's discuss the FACTS as it relates to terrorism that deliberately targets women and children, the use of human sheilds, etc....Come on, freedom fighting is one thing. Targeting women and children to reserve your place in paradise is another.
Yeah, all the "freedom fighters" and men of peace from Israel are legendary, Begin, Dayan, Shamir, Sharon...
Nice try, but the "facts" are getting in the way again.
Once again you fail to answer my "facts" since you obviously are not are reader of history, the Koran, or any other information that fails to meet the needs of your myopic viewpoint. Yes, all of them were real "freedom fighters" who's main targets were military, not civilian. Will you address the issue of modern (Islamic) terrorism that praises the targeted killing of innocent women and children as being an invention of Mohammed as chronicled in his "book"? I doubt it. Sure, Israel has accidentally killed civilians while attacking military targets (probably your next point). But, virtually ALL of the attacks of Islamic terrorists involve civilian targets. Have you ever heard of 9/11 or 7/7? They are just a drop in the bucket. Hope you're ready for the next wave to hit USA. Will you blame Israel for that, too?
Jesus fuck asshole. How about giving ONE FACT before running your dick sucker about how you can provide more..
I gave you a book (one of many) full of FACTS, dickwad. Why not read it and get back to me?
opening your comment with:
ain't gonna get you no respect or cred. and yes, when israel can firebomb your house from 20,000 feet in the middle of the night, when they can abduct your children and torture them with no recourse, when you have to go through a checkpoint to take a shit, they ARE the oppressive goliath.
we're all well versed with the history of israel, the balfour declaration, the secular zionist movement, and their financial backers.
try your luck on the yahoo! boards. you're not going to find sympathy with your spiteful drivel around there parts.
What has the fact that Israel can firebomb a house from 20000ft have to do with oppression? You failed to mention what houses are being firebombed. Houses full of ammo, missiles and the like that are used to target civilians of Israel on a daily basis. If a group of people were constantly threatening and carrying out cross border attacks on your state, how fast would you be demanding that "something be done" about it? You are not taking into consideration the literally thousands of attacks perpetrated by cross border suicide bombers. How would you handle it? "Abduct your children and torture them..." huh? When has Israel ever done this? If you're so well versed on the history of Israel, why are you distorting it so? Israel is fighting Hamas and Hezzbollah, etc. Soon, America (the Great Satan) will be fighting them on her own soil. Let's see what you think about these poor oppressed noble souls then. Wake up and smell the hummis. The soon to be new leaders of the PA have vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and stated that America is next. Don't believe them? You will.
Tough crowd here.
I guess many tears were shed when Yasser Arafat died.
So why doesn't the US move its borders back to the original 13 colonies and give the rest back to the Indians?
don't confront these guys with logic. it messes up their hate-buzz.
the U.S. didn't force israeli citizens to fund its racism and unlawful aggression. besides, what kind of logic is that? two wrongs =?
we don't keep native americans in concentration camps, here in the year 2011?
I would rather have Bibi than Obambi as president. The world would be a much safer place!
apparently dual-citizenship is all the rage, get yerself a passport & head on out!
Good speech. I watched all of it! I agree with him more now than I did before. It would have been far better for people here to stop typing and start listening! But that would require a little humility instead of hubris!