Watch As Republicans Cut Off Obama Impersonator's Microphone After He Makes Fun Of Michele Bachmann

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Mon, 06/20/2011 - 11:33 | 1384915 cossack55
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Good thing he didn't make any Hitler jokes.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 11:41 | 1384957 AnAnonymous
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Freedom of speech, US style.

 

You are allowed to speak your mind as long as it goes the right way.

 

Too bad this guy, who was born in the US, still has not understood what freedom of speech means in the US.

Some guys will never learn though.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 12:14 | 1385041 Crab Cake
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No you misunderstand the issue. This guys problem is that he wasn't in a free speech "zone"...

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 12:51 | 1385146 MagicHandPuppet
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You're right.  It wasn't free.  He was getting paid.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:11 | 1385197 GoinFawr
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:20 | 1385250 AnAnonymous
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It means that when you are paid in the US to deliver a roast and that your employee is not happy with what a roast, that it is your fault.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:23 | 1385266 GoinFawr
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"If you can't take the heat..." maybe you shouldn't ask for a roast.

Tue, 06/21/2011 - 03:12 | 1387633 Guy Fawkes Mulder
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What happened is that I went over my minutes. They told me I had 20, but they aired a video before me and then my intro took up more time. When our liaison—they guy who introduced me–came up to me onstage, he said, "Hey, I am sorry—your time is up," and so I finished and went backstage. I was told it was because of my time, not my act, not because of anything I said.

http://gawker.com/5813635/race+joking-obama-impersonator-gop-loves-me

But still, that crowd couldn't handle a single Republican joke (I feel embarrassed for all Americans when I see them clap for W, etc.), so the OP is still on point.

edit: also relevant: this quote and news item came out many hours after the OP

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 12:24 | 1385074 Chump
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You don't understand what freedom of speech means in the US.  It doesn't mean you get to say whatever the fuck you want, whenever, to whoever, and suffer no consequences.  This guy was hired to do a job, his employers obviously didn't like what he was saying, so they removed him from the stage they had paid for.  Simple.

Freedom of speech means government forces "can't" silence you or jail you for voicing ideas that government officials don't agree with.  I have "can't" in quotes because obviously we don't have freedom of speech in this country.  There are many examples of egregious violations of the freedom of speech; this ain't one of them.

Disclaimer: this is a fucking stupid story.  What does it have to do with anything, really?  Every time I read the name 'Obama' or 'Bachmann' I get a little bit dumber.  I expect to be drooling by the end of election season, and I really don't need ZH to contribute to my stupidization.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:22 | 1385187 GoinFawr
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"...I really don't need ZH to contribute to my stupidization."

I could tell, but thanks for clearing the air anyway. IMO it would be appropriate if in the future you preface every comment you make on ZH with that statement; it'll save us all some time.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:22 | 1385258 Chump
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So nothing relevant to add then?  Imagine my surprise.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:31 | 1385287 GoinFawr
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Heh, your response just endowed my comment with complete relevance, thanks.

(Note: you forgot your preamble)

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:31 | 1385304 Chump
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Oh I see, it's the "I'm rubber your glue" argument then.  Way to...win?

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:41 | 1385366 GoinFawr
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Heh, in the spirit of this thread I'll humour you:

Your argument is, "You have the right to free speech... as long as you're not dumb enough to actually try it." a fair enough claim to make, considering the state of the US today.

But if they paid for a 'roast'; they got what they paid for, so the comedian fulfilled his obligation. If all they had wished for was a 'ten minute Obama hate', they should have related that to the comedian. But in light of the audience/guests that could hardly be considered a roast.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 14:00 | 1385451 Chump
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Ah, but you don't have to make things up for me to say, you can simply copy and paste:

Freedom of speech means government forces "can't" silence you or jail you for voicing ideas that government officials don't agree with.  I have "can't" in quotes because obviously we don't have freedom of speech in this country.  There are many examples of egregious violations of the freedom of speech; this ain't one of them.

When you pay for the product, you can determine if "you got what you paid for."  You didn't, so you don't.  This comedian, if he feels his contract was violated, can sue his employers.  There are no other legal issues in play.  Calling this a violation of the right to free speech is not only laughably wrong, but lessens the charge itself.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 14:29 | 1385502 GoinFawr
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Yawn.

Actually, if you had paid attention, and weren't so obsessed with your agenda of vehemently defending the principle of 'employer's prerogative', you'd have seen long ago that all I've argued is that the organizers got what they paid for: a roast. If that was indeed in the contract, the comedian has a pretty solid case if he wasn't paid (and if he really wanted to go through all the bother and expense).

"If you can't take the heat..." maybe you shouldn't ask for a roast.

What this article, and inadvertently your posts, are a prime examples of is how Americans (for the most part) just love to dish it out, but are unfortunately too thin-skinned to take it.

Still omitting your preface I see; I guess we'll just have to assume it's there...

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 14:31 | 1385609 Chump
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OK, just making sure you're not still clinging to the demonstrably false belief that his freedom of speech was violated.  "Contract violation" and "human right violation" is a pretty important distinction, despite all your blather to the contrary.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 14:34 | 1385648 Rusty Shorts
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Burp, ahhh

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 16:07 | 1386157 ranrun
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+

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 16:08 | 1386167 MrBoompi
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Evidently thin-skinned wingnuts are everywhere.

Tue, 06/21/2011 - 02:53 | 1388124 GoinFawr
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Touché.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 14:44 | 1385641 Rusty Shorts
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Chump

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:08 | 1385199 dark pools of soros
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can't wait till it's known that ZH is also a CIA operative..  what, this is the ONLY thing that isn't?

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:28 | 1385286 Sinestar
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Nahhh, just many, many of the posters have a decidely Ayn Rand/Libertarian/Paranoiac slant

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:56 | 1385429 GoinFawr
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++

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 15:30 | 1385937 sdmjake
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I wish WB7 would make an "I {heart} Libertarian/Paranoiacs t-shirt!

 

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 14:22 | 1385582 jaffi
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I bet that he still got his fat paycheck for the venue, what else would a professional impersonator want? In fact, I bet that the publicity that he has received has also backlogged his public engagements schedule.

It's funny, he made fun of the left for 15 minutes straight, but as soon as he started hitting the right, they took him off stage. Gotta love those spineless partisans of both the left and the right, they can never see the humor in their own idiotic behavior, rather they only see the idiocy in the "other team".

But, there was a great ending to that night that was beyond partisan politics: Ron Paul wiped the floor with every other candidate there. He fucking cleaned house!!!

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 15:55 | 1386071 gmrpeabody
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+1

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 15:30 | 1385943 caconhma
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Chump,

on a few things, I do agree with you.

  • There is no freedom of speech in the USA. The mainstream/commercial media is owned by the big money. They also own the government.
  • Now, legally, with the Patriot Act, people will be put in jail for their speech. Remember, the US Constitution has been suspended.
  • As for the Republican party, they are just pitiful. They are intellectually bankrupt. They cannot take a joke. No wonder they gave America such great leaders like GWB an McCain.
  • As for the Tea Party, they are ready to cut some spending but they are also ready to finance endless wars and the state of Israel with close to $3T already spent.
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 12:37 | 1385103 Johnbrown
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Free speech means the GOVERNMENT can't stop you from speaking. A private organization, which is paying you, can. Get your facts straight.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 12:41 | 1385115 AnAnonymous
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You don't understand what freedom of speech means in the US.  It doesn't mean you get to say whatever the fuck you want, whenever, to whoever, and suffer no consequences.  This guy was hired to do a job, his employers obviously didn't like what he was saying, so they removed him from the stage they had paid for.  Simple.

 

Waooo, people love to cling to their myth.

A fine line between the government and a republicans organized event, featuring an impersonator mocking public servants and/or politicians. And, in the end, the US is not about freedom of speech, it is about public vs private means of censorship.

As long as censorship is done on private means, well, it is okay with US citizens.

 

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:30 | 1385297 Chump
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It's not a fine line.  Dude was hired.  Dude's employers didn't like the job he was doing.  Dude was fired.  It doesn't matter if he was making fun of Obama or Bachmann or reading stories to children.

Seriously, bitching about "free speech" here takes something away from all the actual cases of violation of free speech.  Learn to discern.

As long as censorship is done on private means, well, it is okay with US citizens.

Yeah, no shit.  If I hire you to lay bricks and you spend your time yapping about Dancing With the Stars or which quarterback you'd like to see play for whichever team, you're gonna get fired whether you think your "freedom of speech" was violated or not.  It's the exact, same principle at work here.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:41 | 1385367 AnAnonymous
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Yeah, no shit.  If I hire you to lay bricks and you spend your time yapping about Dancing With the Stars or which quarterback you'd like to see play for whichever team, you're gonna get fired whether you think your "freedom of speech" was violated or not.  It's the exact, same principle at work here.

Same principle? Same as same can be understood by US citizens.

So this guy was hired to deliver a roast which includes the possibility of pouring fire on the audience.

Does the guy perform accordingly? Yes.

In your example, the guy is hired to lay up bricks and spend his time yapping. Different. Very different. In one, the guy delivers the product he was paid for. In the other, the guy does not.

But again, it is the US meaning of same. Human beings have a same right to freedom and under that same right, it was therefore normal that the US started as a slaver nations as human beings have indeed a US same right to liberty.

 

And indeed, I have yet to learn how to discern the US citizens way.

 

 

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:50 | 1385421 Chump
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In your example, the guy is hired to lay up bricks and spend his time yapping. Different. Very different. In one, the guy delivers the product he was paid for. In the other, the guy does not.

See, that's the thing, you're resorting to analysis of the contract now.  Either the comedian had the innate, human right to stand there and speak, or he did not.  Either his inherent right to free speech was violated or it was not.  The fact that you're acknowledging he was paid to deliver a product means your argument is null and void.  When you pay him, you can determine if his product is satisfactory.

And US citizens don't need people from other countries to "discern us."  How silly for you to comment on another population's laws when you don't even have a fundamental understanding of them.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 15:37 | 1385959 DosZap
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johnb,

Don't confuse some with FACTS,they already have their minds made up.

Also they  voted for the ridgerunner.

We sure did/are getting that Change, can't find any Hope,except in Arkansas.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 12:34 | 1385106 Caviar Emptor
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+1

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 14:13 | 1385524 Motorhead
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Definitely some fucked up shit.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 15:09 | 1385804 DosZap
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An,

 

Too bad this guy, who was born in the US

 

Well, what do expect from a Comedian?.Now if he had dual passports, and was able to travel to OFF LIMITS to Americans you could understand.(sarc)

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 11:45 | 1384960 Dismal Scientist
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To quote PJ O'Rourke:

'I have often been called a Nazi, and, although it is unfair, I don't let it bother me. I don't let it bother me for one simple reason. No one has ever had a fantasy about being tied to a bed and sexually ravished by someone dressed as a liberal.'

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 12:23 | 1385071 JW n FL
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I want to ravish all of you fucking sheep!

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 11:34 | 1384917 firstdivision
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Why are they insulating Michele Bachmann?  She has displayed her ignorance much as Palin, and all idiots in politics have. 

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 11:39 | 1384935 swissaustrian
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She is the false flag Ron Paul / Tea Party candidate:

Talking like him, voting like a neocon

Some of her positions:

- Voted for the patriot act extension

- Said Israel had to be supported unconditionally, otherwise "god will curse us"

- Worked as a tax attorney for the IRS

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 11:55 | 1385003 israhole
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You got that right, swissaustrian!

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 12:26 | 1385070 DaveyJones
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isn't god already cursing us?

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:15 | 1385210 firefighter302
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No, God is not cursing "us".

The "curse", I'd suggest, is the selfish and theftful nature that many humans have decided to live by.

 

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:20 | 1385233 Votewithabullet
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This is God blessing us. The real fun is coming. This room had less brothers than an Indianapolis colts home game . Lousiana republicans...nappy hair is not allowed.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 13:55 | 1385426 wisefool
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If you want to look on the bright side of this. She could be the candidate that the american people believes has the qualitfications for serious, structural tax code reform. (Ben and Timmay have been begging for it. Obama put Volcker on it)

She can say "When I worked on the tax code, I was going after cheats, now I realize that the code is to complex to catch the cheats and it needs deep structural reform"

And the two party system could "let" her win in 2012 or 2016 so that democrats could blame her for taking away all the well intended incentives for people, but are often abused by rich people or professional gamers. (Like the dude in wisconson, who won the lottery but still collected food stamps, cause the rules said he could. Or companies like G.E. who would say look, we need to save money on taxes so we can pay engineers to figure out how to prevent the next fukishima)

The Dems could also get her to conceed in the same regard that the US should fix obama care in the same way. Norquist let all the pubs out of the "promise" last week when they dumped the ethanol subsidy. For those that don't know, norquist claims to be a "starve the beast" dude, but what he really wants is status quo on all the loopholes in existance, cause they fit (or did fit) his world view and paybacks for his constituants.

I know these parties will do anything to cling onto power, and only want to share it with themselves. But every once in a while they have to do the right thing for the people to keep thier hedgemony, or even the hedge itself in tact.

If she is not going to campaign on tax reform and accomodation of Obama care. Dr. Paul needs to explain why he wants a gold standard, but then lead the people along during the camapign for actual solution which is sound money poilicy, and then tax code will fix itself.

And sure,  4,8,12 years from now all the loop holes and incentive models will creep back in, but you have to renew the foundation every once in a while....

 

"Always look on the bright side of life!"

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 15:51 | 1386043 caconhma
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You got it right. She is phony. She is a US ruling oligarchy provocateur.

She is just another neocon. She is Dick Cheney only with boobs.

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 20:17 | 1387059 Bringin It
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She's as evil as Dick.  She's as big a whore for Israel as Dick.  But she be way more stupid than dick.

Look how they hijacked the Tea Party and you can see what the most important imperative is.  Talk about the deficit - Fine.   Talk about healthcare - Great.  Talk about cutting the money transfer of any remaining tax payer wealth to the Zionist entity and it's time to plug the gap with the bonehead Ms. Bachman or the equally ignorant 'Who's Paul Revere?' Palin.

Scary to see all those obese goons cheer the Bachman sell-out.  God help America.

 

Mon, 06/20/2011 - 15:58 | 1386049 caconhma
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