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Water, Meet Blood - JP Morgan Admits To, Reduces Massive Silver Short Position, Proves Millions Of Conspiracy Theorists Correct

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Mon, 12/13/2010 - 20:00 | 803024 Altan311
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VICCCCCCTOOOOOORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 20:02 | 803028 ZeroPower
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Not really.

Since JPM has been reducing their short position over the previous last weeks, that could possibly explain the various intra-day surges in price which were never seen before in silver. I hope this makes sense to you silver-bugs.

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 20:04 | 803034 Tyler Durden
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Please point us to the 8K or 13D that confirms this. Oh wait, speculation is what gets you branded a conspiracy theorist until proven correct, right?

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 20:17 | 803067 nope-1004
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Of course, the latter is pure and total bullshit:

Totally!  Nothing but a PR stunt by the bank to try to ease the onslaught.

They basically have released one heck of a confession, though.  Would make a good epitaph after they crumble to show the world how much these crooks lie.

 

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 21:41 | 803351 justbuygold
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Agreed,  a desperate PR stunt to make traders think that they have covered most of it and were the reason for the runup in price. Therefore they are imlying prices will now fall.   Trsut me , there is now way they cold have possibly covered 200 MM +  ounces of silver without a substatial drop in open interest.  Open interest is at a new record.    More lies from JPM  ....they must be REALLY REALLY desperate right now to try this stunt.

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 00:21 | 803724 SilverIsKing
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From Chris Powell - Help GATA Turn Up the Heat on JPM!

http://news.silverseek.com/SilverSeek/1292297871.php

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 00:41 | 803762 Hansel
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Mish's post from a few days ago:

Investors Hold Biggest Commodity Positions On Record; Viral Nonsense About Silver

Emails and videos regarding silver are going viral. There is no evidence to support the theory that JPM will be forced to cover silver futures no matter how high the price of silver goes.

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 00:51 | 803785 SilverIsKing
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Tue, 12/14/2010 - 08:52 | 804204 jus_lite_reading
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Ouch. Brutally honest. Brutally painful for the frauds...

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 07:22 | 804111 AUD
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Normally I don't have alot of time for Mish but in this case I think he's right.

JP Morgan may well have a large short position in silver futures but also being a large bank they may have a large amount of silver deposited with them & be hedging for their clients position. JP Morgan may not give a toss whether the $ price goes up or down, they are just providng a service for their clients.

And nobody has any fucking idea how much silver actually exists.

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 07:33 | 804161 AUD
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And I'll add, since when does ZeroHedge take reports in the Financial Times as gospel?

 

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 09:29 | 804255 tmosley
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You just keep thinking that.  Makes it easier for those of us who see what is going on.

We use 40% more silver than we mine, and the only government that has any significant amount stockpiled any longer is China.

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 21:40 | 806775 Hephasteus
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Wow you pay Mish for one fucking speach to Google and let him visit the white house and he just turns into unfixable type of retarded.

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 23:03 | 806959 GoinFawr
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Is it just me or did I miss the part in Mish's piece (or any of his articles on this matter for that matter) where he referred to the ongoing legal action regarding Jape-E-Morgan, or commented on the actions' obvious relevance to the entire subject of silver price manipulation?

oh wait, I think I just found something, from http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/12/still-more-hype-regarding-silver-just.html

"If someone can prove JPMorgan is not hedged and is indeed getting killed in these markets, I reserve the right to change my opinion"

If there is more, and I missed it, please feel free to correct me, otherwise...

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 00:50 | 803780 Drag Racer
Tue, 12/14/2010 - 05:59 | 804056 Mentaliusanything
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Thermonuclear ! Yes that would burn the bastards.
In the wild, an animal that fears death goes "frozen" and Fauns death.

Now is the time to, as they do in the Wild, grab the throat and clamp down hard, never relenting until they truly go limp. That will be the end. Never let go, until you feel the death rattle through the teeth. 

Get the blood rush and clamp down.   

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 00:32 | 803742 Dingleberry Jones
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Good stuff. Make a lot of sense.

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 08:16 | 804182 akenathon
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I agree with you - no way they could have covered this like this - To me they have added even more short but by saying they covered they hope to see prices falling.

Now the time has come to srously slaughter them!!

Also for silver bugs...you have half of the hedge funds which are long Gold/Silver ratio at those levels and failure to hold the 45 level would wipe out few billions from JPM and Hedge Funds in just one trading day as no one will sell any silver anymore...

 

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 08:36 | 804185 dehdhed
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maybe they've covered some but the more serious problem i think they're trying to avoid is the shortage of silver.   they've probably robbed allocated vaults, and if those holders discover that, they are up a shit-creek without a paddle.

in other words, they've probably covered/delivered with other people's silver and still need to replace that.   if the futures market collapses because there's a run on physical, they will get destroyed.  plus the whole reason and method of price supression goes up in smoke.   no futures market credibility means more transactions go directly to physical and bypasses the paper .. which spills over to gold too

they've got bigger problems than covering their paper shorts.  i sincerely feel sorry for anyone who hasn't any physical.

i'm gonna keep-a-stackin'

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 08:51 | 804202 jus_lite_reading
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The end is near... for JPM and BofA- the two largest fraudulent operations on the planet. Worse than communist Chinese gov't propaganda. A million times worse than Water Gate.  Infinitely worse than Bernie Made-off's pon... see, it's the way the system was manipulated!

GO SILVER! FUCK 'EM!

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 01:01 | 803804 Wackzingo
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I hope it works and the price drops...at least temporarily because I want to buy more.

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 09:42 | 804192 dehdhed
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if all you want to buy is the paper, then in your case it already worked.   they want to distract from the truth about physical shortage.

instead of thinking about buying MORE paper for just a couple bucks cheaper, you should think in terms of when you can't buy physical ANY MORE.  at least not unless there is much higher prices.  there will be some who let go of it at higher prices, but there will be others standing in line to buy it.  it's that line of buyers they want to make sure nobody sees.

it's a sad truth, instead of advising it's citizens to buy gold and silver,  the citizens of the reserve currency, or any other failing currency,  get stuck holding the bag through lies and deception.

let's assume they stand to lose $100 billion covering paper shorts, that's easy if the fed has back-stopped their actions.  the problem arises if and when the paper ponzi scheme with futures and etf's goes up in smoke. they can't print more silver.   even if they could ramp the production, reserves just get depleted faster.  soon, the price of silver will be based  on both above ground supplies and in the ground reserves, and not just how fast traders can play hot potato with paper silver.

they've got to protect the paper market at all costs.

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 15:07 | 805526 Amish Rake Fighter
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edit

Tue, 12/21/2010 - 09:31 | 820569 Wackzingo
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I was talking about physical silver.

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 06:10 | 804069 doggings
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Totally!  Nothing but a PR stunt by the bank to try to ease the onslaught.

I concur, here's the visual representation of events..

"Brave Sir Robin ran away.." :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8#t=0m60s

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 20:27 | 803069 Spalding_Smailes
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"When you expect things to happen - strangely enough - they do happen."
- J.P. Morgan

"A man always has two reasons for doing anything: a good reason and the real reason. " - J.P. Morgan

"Go as far as you can see; when you get there, you'll be able to see farther. " - J.P. Morgan
Mon, 12/13/2010 - 20:33 | 803128 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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My father owned a bank, so I own a bank. -John Pierpont Morgan

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 20:42 | 803165 Spalding_Smailes
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"I unfortunately have never in my life been to a wild party."

-Silvio Berlusconi

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 20:48 | 803188 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Fuck yo couch, 'Merica!

-Ben Bernanke

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 22:01 | 803417 Double down
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"Fuck your couch, Niggar"

Rick James

 

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 22:35 | 803488 MeTarzanUjane
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"Gold Bitchez!"

Chumbawambat

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 23:30 | 803628 Al Gorerhythm
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You are all idiots! 

Johnny Bravo.

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 00:10 | 803707 hedgeless_horseman
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"Hi ho Silver!"

-The Lone Ranger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxIuIxqo2So

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 00:14 | 803717 Andrew G
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"Let's get physical" - Olivia Newton John

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 00:38 | 803756 cowdiddly
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"Somebodies been eating My Porridge" The Three Bears speaking of GOLDiLoCks

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 03:27 | 803970 MakeMineADouble
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"Bite Me"

 

Jaws

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 21:48 | 806818 Hephasteus
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I'm in your first derivative fucking your second derivatives in the ear.

Max Keiser should say this.

Tue, 12/14/2010 - 00:59 | 803801 jez
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hi ho silver lining

-- Jeff Beck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9T47Hnccpw

 

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 20:51 | 803195 FEDbuster
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Which part of "To Big To Fail" don't you guys understand? As much as I would like to see Jamie Dimon hanging from a dog leash, it isn't going to happen. The Ben Bernank will find a way to bail out his bankster bosses no matter what kinda of shit the get caught up in.

Silver is just a pimple on an elephant's ass compared to derivatives.

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 20:59 | 803225 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Which part of 'the dollar is a made up piece of paper with no intrinsic value' don't you understand?

And derivatives are hedged based on the suppression of silver prices!

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 21:15 | 803270 Spalding_Smailes
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"Eurozone would not survive its first economic crisis." - Milton Friedman
Mon, 12/13/2010 - 21:22 | 803294 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I will promise you this, the first thing I will do as President will be to end this war [in Afgahnistan].  You can take that to the bank!

Barrack Insane Obama

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 21:23 | 803298 Spalding_Smailes
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Lol'.... I give up.

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 21:25 | 803303 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Haha!

Lets do it again sometime.

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 21:38 | 803339 Spalding_Smailes
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Time to circle the wagons. Short S&P - insurance/bet = cheap. VXZ

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 21:41 | 803353 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Big monie standing behind the dollar at the top of the stairs....woops, the dollar fell down the stairs.

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 22:32 | 803479 velobabe
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you guyz   R O C K

h a r d

Mon, 12/13/2010 - 21:48 | 803378 Rahm
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Immmmm not a crook

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