A Week After Ken Griffen's Heartfelt "Grandma" Letter On Employee Retention, Three Key Citadwellers Pick Up And Leave

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Mon, 01/03/2011 - 15:18 | 844753 Cursive
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Meritocracy? Maybe a meritocracy within an oligarchy within a plutocracy.

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 15:33 | 844799 Village Idiot
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"Meritocracy? Maybe a meritocracy within an oligarchy within a plutocracy."

So in layman's terms like a "Turducken."  Not to be confused with a "turdferguson" which comes up in the same google search.





Mon, 01/03/2011 - 16:05 | 844887 Cursive
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LOL. I was thinking Russian nesting dolls meets Winston Churchill, but you put a good spin on it, VI. Happy New Year, bro.

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 15:18 | 844754 Dismal Scientist
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Firms with messianic bosses will always suffer high turnover. This should be no surprise for anyone who has ever worked for a boss that cannot be reasoned with, of which there are many.

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 15:18 | 844759 system failure
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A guilty conscious will do that to you eventually....

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 15:20 | 844762 TradingJoe
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They all go to FOX Business "News" via CNBS :-)))))))))))))

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 15:25 | 844774 vote_libertaria...
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It could be rather ominous.


Or it could be they didn't feel compensation wasn't high enough.


All 3 leaving at once sounds spooky.

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 15:28 | 844777 Apocalicious
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Yeah, not to mention Pav Sethi - Head of Vol - who left in 2009..

Julian Frazzo MD in event who left last year, replacing Joe Rotter - US Head of Event who left in 2009, who replaced Irv Shindell Global Head of Event who left in 2008, who replaced Alec Litowitz, Global Head of Event who left in 2005...

Todd Kaplan, Head of Investment banking leaving in 2010, who replaced Peter Santoro who left in 2009 and Rohit D'Souza who left earlier in 2009...

Seems they did "leave for for other ventures."

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 15:32 | 844798 Internet Tough Guy
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My dear old gramps had a saying: 'Money talks, and bullshit walks'.

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 15:35 | 844811 NotApplicable
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Honestly, how many people do you need to make sure the algos are still running?

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 15:43 | 844835 buzzsaw99
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Is this a rats - sinking ship thing or a rats - cheese thing? My guess is the former.

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 15:46 | 844841 BearOfNH
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During "the unprecedented challenges of 2008", how many really could have left? I don't recall a Wall Street hiring binge at the time; indeed surely there were many Lehman and Bear Stearns castoffs competing for any available positions.

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 16:07 | 844895 TruthInSunshine
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Dear Grandma,

We are getting out of the game, and I am leaving for parts other, because I no longer command a table at 'the meetings,' and am not spoon fed as some of my lucky cohorts are.

You have provided me with a comfortable enough cushion via your sponsorship through the years, so I will take the better, earlier opportunity to get out while the getting is good.

Stay long & strong, or at least very wrong.



Rapacious parasite & avaracious destroyer of trust

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 16:22 | 844940 Quinvarius
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I worked at a place where they issued all kinds of employee retention PR and jibber jabber about retaining the most qualified people.  A couple months later all the educated and certified techs with all the experience were laid off.  They were replaced with street people and drunks from a 15$ an hour staffing firm, and Indians who stayed in India.  In a place where outages are measured in 10's of thousands of dollars per minute, the change has been very costly for them. 

I doubt those guys left on their own.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 04:42 | 845970 Widowmaker
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Sounds like attrition to me-- and no unemployment paid.

Another unemployment tidbit from a "napkin" perspective--  I know of a business with 17 FTE's that cannot hire 2 FTE's (all nat'l median salary) because of Federal income taxes alone.

Makes you wonder...

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 16:37 | 845005 Hephasteus
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Shouldn't that be demeritocrazy.

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 16:46 | 845020 Drag Racer
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My bet is they are tied up and in deep over the insider trading probe AND you will see it tied into the health care biz.

Mon, 01/03/2011 - 23:25 | 845732 ThirdCoastSurfer
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That they left never reveals much. Where they went is the story.

  minutes last night reports on a Quality Assurance VP who worked for Glaxo-Smith-Kline who failed to address incidences of anti-depressants repeatedly packaged, shipped and ingested as diabetic medicine "reporting" only that he "no longer works for Glaxo". Undoubtedly, he is now QA VP at some other firm but why should we care where?  


Mon, 01/03/2011 - 23:26 | 845734 HungrySeagull
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And the Exodus starts. While the Pharoh waxes great about Egypt.

Dark days are coming and the smart ones are getting the hell out.

Tue, 01/04/2011 - 00:36 | 845839 vainamoinen
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"They stayed committed to Citadel because of who we are and what we represent: an entrepreneurial, results-driven meritocracy that is changing the face of modern finance."

Didn't I hear this before at, let's see - where was it? Oh yeah, now I remember - - -


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