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This is an attempt to harness the ZH brain trust, an invitation to exchange views and refine understanding

You used to be a run-of-the-mill fund manager, but you've been managing funds for the Communist Party of Angina for the past ten years. On your advice, your boss decided to buy a shitload of US Treasuries to keep his exports competitive. That worked out ravishingly, but now he's faced with a major headache. If you can't find a solution to it, you'll be required to make a voluntary donation of both your kidneys to members of the party.

The US economy is in the shitter and someone's hand is on the flush-lever. Angina's holdings of US Dollars - some estimate them to be between 1tn and 2tn - will soon become worthless as the sadomasochistic bastard holding the lever laughs and yanks it. You're tasked with salvaging as much value out of Angina's holdings as you possibly can.

You tried buying Australian minerals, but some shitheaded Party factotum thought it wise to piss the Aussies off by arresting one of their own. Now they won't return your phone calls.

You could buy a boatload of American companies, but what good will that do? You make everything for them anyway. So why dump a lot of money in buying the front office and secretarial staff? You can hire those jokers cheap after their economy's destroyed.

Any rational move you make will move markets. Make the wrong move and that hand on the lever might just end up being yours.  So ... what do you do, assuming that you aren't suicidal or masochistic?




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Mon, 08/24/2009 - 22:54 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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It's really simple actually - corner the Gold market while at the same time making sure you do it subtly enough that you get the maximum bang for your toilet paper holdings and then launch your own international reserve currency backed by it. Oh wait...Angina is doing that already.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 21:06 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/24/2009 - 23:11 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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You are truly evil... and evidently the winner. Don't forget to buy a controlling interest in Goldman Sachs to complete the coup before you turn the lights off!

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 19:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/24/2009 - 18:06 | Link to Comment Sancho Ponzi
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You sell them molybdenum mines and such? (ticker symbol GMO)

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/August2009/19/c6042.html

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 17:50 | Link to Comment My cognitive di...
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I would annex the Sudetenland.

Tue, 08/25/2009 - 00:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/25/2009 - 14:16 | Link to Comment My cognitive di...
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LOL

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 16:49 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/24/2009 - 16:02 | Link to Comment VegasBD
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Put in an offer for California. Low ball em.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 16:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/24/2009 - 15:37 | Link to Comment HankPaulson
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Admittedly, it may be difficult to offload USD 1.5 Trillion buying Australian politicians when they can be bought so cheaply:

 

Australia's Defence Minister Joel Fitzgibbon has resigned.

He had been under fire for failing to declare gifts received, including two trips to China.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8082388.stm

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/24/2009 - 15:15 | Link to Comment HankPaulson
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OK I know this isn't Angina, but the Anginese could maybe take some hints from the following transaction:

 

PetroChina will buy $50 billion worth of liquefied natural gas from the yet to be developed Gorgon field off the coast of Western Australia.

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2009/s2660091.htm

 

Australian minerals are still a good buy, and so are Australian politicians.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 14:59 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 08/25/2009 - 03:33 | Link to Comment jester
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Isn't that already the case?

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 14:41 | Link to Comment AKA Clark
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Remember that China doesn't have currency risk - the Yuan is already pegged to the dollar.  It only has the interest rate risk of thr treasury holdings to consider.  All that they need to do is to get someone to take the other side of the trade (i.e. the arb gets paid if rates stay low for some period of time).

I bet that their holdings of treasuries are well in the money at this point (recall that rates have come down from the peak in 2006) so they are probably more concerned with status quo than appreciation.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/24/2009 - 14:29 | Link to Comment AKA Clark
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Ok - since no one has stated the obvious here yet, I will.

 

Engage GS to Buy 2 Trillion $ in nominal Interest Rate swaps on your behalf, and then do what you are going to do anyway.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/24/2009 - 14:18 | Link to Comment ratava
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Oh god, dont you drag this partisian bullshit here. Go watch Fox News or something.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 13:33 | Link to Comment RagnarDanneskjold
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1) Be inscrutable. Disguise Treasury purchases and sales by trading through intermediaries.

2) Make sure you keep trumpeting your large dollar reserves.

3) Quietly offload dollar assets onto banks, SWF, investment firms, and anyone else who can sell the assets quietly

4) Instruct these firms to "short" the dollar. Euros, giant Afghan copper mines, gas pipelines, etc.

5) Don't fully divest. First aim to balance losses. Assets with multiplicative potential are a good bet. It may be possible to fully offset its Treasuries with only 25-35% invested in hard assets. 

6) Once you are hedged, let your currency appreciate.

7) Make a ?? and leak the information.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 12:51 | Link to Comment NRGTDR
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Buy all the comex gold futures you can get your hands on and ultimately take delivery of it all. You win. 

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 13:44 | Link to Comment Frank Owen
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err, don`t count on it as they can now settle with an ETF contract or (EFP) Exchange of Futures for Physicals instead of physical. Seems everything is rigged.  From Gata: `Commodity exchanges can dump gold debts on ETFs`   http://www.gata.org/node/7586

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 18:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/24/2009 - 12:47 | Link to Comment straightershooter
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Angry middle class-ers, now destitute with greenbacks, but fully loaded with ammos, encircled DC and ousted CEO, CFO, COO and all board of directors of the little coporation know as US of Angina. All banksters' bank collapsed, all corporations connected to GS collapsed, all corporations popped up by CNBC collapsed, and, the monetary base together with the credit creation machine all collapsed, and, and, and.

Once this happens, the scarcity of greenback pushes the dollar index to a new all time high at 200.

WMD (Whitehouse Money of Deception) and WMD squared (Whitehouse Madman of Decider), anyone? To save the greenback, all others must be destroyed and vice versa. The soon-to-be destitute middle-classers will destroy everything in sight and the dollar will be saved.

Comrades, just be patient.

 

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 15:53 | Link to Comment straightershooter
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Just found another WMD (Whitehouse Money as Debt). I see we have no chance of exiting the current mayhem.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 12:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/24/2009 - 11:21 | Link to Comment callistenes
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Easy the the US taxpayers will subsidize and credit 6X levererage debt for the Anginans are buying $2 billion, the US  puts up $2 billion, and then the PPIP allows the purchase of $24 billion of distressed assets in the open market.

All for $2 billion dollars. Oh, and the FDIC would guarantee the debt being issued by the PPIP.

Hence, taxpayer dollars are subsidizing Chinese  Anginans purchases of U.S. assets at a discount.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/08/why-is-us-government-subsidizing-chinese-ppip/

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 11:13 | Link to Comment Stevm30
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Three options...

1. Demand recognition that your rebellious island "nation" Angiwan is under your soverignity in a treaty with the US.... an offer they can't refuse.  National pride improves, you keep both kidneys.

2. Advise your bosses to prepare for revolution.  The average people, who are essentially the elites' slaves (who get dollars, by preventing the local currency, and purchasing power, to rise), rise in revolution on the first sign of a major downturn.  Once US consumers stop buying products (at any price), contentment engendered by high employment and rapid growth, dissipates.  Thoughtful members of the party leadership take some precautions, and the rebellion is largely crushed.  Your bosses stay in power, albeit weakened.  You are forced to give one kidney in the subsequent purges.

3. Allow your currency to appreciate (and lose most of the value in the securities you hold).  More than a billion of your citizens, live happier, more contented lives as their purchasing power increases and they are able to reap the benefits of their hard work.  Your bosses lose their investment, and the power that comes with keeping a chokehold on the national economy.  You lose both kidneys.

 

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 11:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/24/2009 - 11:09 | Link to Comment nopat
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You do nothing.  You want your hand on the handle.  You feed just enough to the market to make them squirm.  You reel enough of it back in to ease the pain.  Anginians are ASTUTE observers of history and have learned many lessons from their oil-producing neighbors.  They have not forgotten the Opium Wars, and probably feel a sense of entitlement now being on the other end of the trade.  To speak nothing of their own accomplishments, the Anginians have literally bought their way in to the table.

 

To frame it another way: how much would you pay to control the world's largest economy?  $1T?  $2T?  What's the breakup value of a whole productive nation?  How much would a company spend to be left alone to their own devices from every major regulatory agency in the world?

 

Seems like smart money to me...

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