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What's Happening in Egypt?
Events are moving very quickly in Egypt.
The Egyptian government has expelled Al Jazeera.
Fighter jets flew low over Cairo.
However, Al Jazeera just said
that the commander of the army tanks in downtown Cairo told protest
leader that the army would take no action so long as the protests were
peaceful.
Al Jazeera also interviewed a spokesman for the Muslim
Brotherhood, who said that that radical group would support former UN
weapons inspector Mohamed ElBaradei as Egyptian leader.
Al Jazeera reports:
Hundreds of judges join the protests in Cairo.
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Al Jazeera's producer in Egypt says reports are circulating that the country's interior minister has been arrested by the army.
The generals of the Egyptian army met with Mubarak and - according to an unconfirmed report from Malta Today - the generals told Mubarak to quit.
Egyptian newspaper Al Masry Al Youm reports that Egypt's defense minister has joined protesters in Tahrir Square.
And Business Insider writes:
According
to Al Jazeera, ElBaradei says he has been in contact with the
military, and that he has a mandate to form a new, national unity
government immediately.
Separately, Al Jazeera is reporting on
emerging fears of a counter-revolution tonight, i.e. the possibility
that the government will make one violent, last-ditch attempt to quash
protesters once nightful comes to Cairo tonight.
Note: Even president Obama is watching Al Jazeera to find out what's going on in Egypt.
And in an update from yesterday's story, protesters have formed a human wall to protect the Cairo museum from looters.
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Media so destroyed that it can not be rebuilt?
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It's retarded shit like this that really detracts from the quality of the site.
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The first thing in the morning ZH read makes me wonder? Is the confidence and faith in the Government and Media so destroyed that it can not be rebuilt? Not to say that I believe any one of the sons of bitches. Just sayin that some how some way, trust has to be re-invented.
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Thanks small part of the population has the wealth and are also the beneficaries of great portions of government largess.
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You're still making variations of the NT bet today... High risk gambling on securities that have already made huge moves, never planning for the party to end. Parties always end. Bankers and insiders are selling into the high prices. To succeed one needs to do what they do -- buying when it's uncomfortable. You do the opposite and keep losing.
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The lower echelons of a tyrannical regime who are responsible for (most likely) imposing unjust rulings against the oppressed masses are now scrambling over one another in a last-ditch effort to avoid their date at the hands of the lynch mob.
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I see more love than hate here. Fascinating pictures: http://cryptome.org/info/egypt-fights/egypt-fights.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/where.htm
The Lincoln is there.
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If the Suez is threatened the US aircraft carriers and their battle groups can't be far away. Anyone know how to locate them?
http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html
"Hundreds of judges join the protests in Cairo."
This strikes me as humorous for some morbid reason.
The lower echelons of a tyrannical regime who are responsible for (most likely) imposing unjust rulings against the oppressed masses are now scrambling over one another in a last-ditch effort to avoid their date at the hands of the lynch mob.
Non-main-stream-media reports the military and CSF have agreed to work together. That's why Elbaradei & MBH have announced an alliance. If that is true protestor reaction next 2 days will decide the matter. Not good...
Apparently only a small part of the population has the wealth and are also the beneficaries of great portions of government largess.
Sounds familar.
Time for the United States to pack it's bags and get out of Egypt.
Sure, we will trade with them and allow them to make their own weapons and technology their way. I rather have that than to have the USA stay in Egypt and get run out on a rail when millions of Egyptians get inflamed by the Protest's anger towards the Dictator's use of USA made weapons.
A thought occured to me last night that I did pause to ponder. What if all these rebellions in the various nations turn into a sort of a united empire without borders?
New idea. lets make this like American Idol with the leader of Egypt being elected by twitter votes. Guns don't matter its how many people text your name.
Commie (Socialist Renewal Movement) protest Tuesday?
http://stop404.org/
Google translation from the original Arabic:
Stratfor has posted an excellent overview of the real power struggle which is within the military ranks. Watch out for armed conflicts between police and military and within fractions of military. The media plays this as a soap opera with young people finding their voice. BS The will turn out to be an ugly raw struggle with the most ruthless winning enormous power and wealth. The control of the suez canal is as important as who controls Saudi Araba. Social networking issues are a meaningless sideshow. Hunger/looting/rioting will be issues in a few days. The Govt will ensure this will happen shortly. When this happens, the masses will be begging for a strong ruthless leader. Egypt has always been ruled by dictators. There are no organized polictical parties
What's happening in Egypt? Oh they are becoming tired idiots now. Going home now. Had our fun on the streets for a few days, need to get some rest and find some food and,
and nothing has changed...
The beast knows full well how people are. The beast is the status quo. Just play some games with them and they will settle. For any good to come of this, will require long days in the street fighting and dying, who knows , perhaps for months... The beast will not go away on its own. You must kill it. These people like so many think that somehow what they think means something. Now every once in a while, a chink can be found in the armor of the beast. When this happens, all power must go to taking advantage of this moment. The Egyptians have had this moment and now it is slipping away from them on a sea of broken heart aches and a life boat of bad dreams. Did they think it would be easy when they first started this? Did they think the beast would just roll up its stuff and leave on its own? I hope they will not consent to or consider a lesser of two evils propostion. All this fighting and dying then, would be for naught. I watch what is going on there now and I see it happening all too real. The fight and the perserverence of the people in the street is lessening now. What they want in Egypt is what they want, not what someone else wants. It is their country, or is it?
It is time for Clinton and Obama to stand up for the people of Egypt.
If they do not do so now and say the "D" word for "Democracy" than what do we stand for as a nation?
Mubarak must go and we must support the Egyptian people.
Otherwise, we will only fuel the Islamo-fascists across the Middle East.
Mubarak is a liability to democracy and liberty.
No question what Clinton, Obama, Congress, and USA stand for...exactly what you see here, swindle, pillage, defraud! It's the name of the game.
http://www.charlesfrith.com/2011/01/chomsky-on-egypt.html
We who? Your government is firmly in favor of dictators. If you have not noticed that it was willful ignorance.
You must be right.
Little has been discussed re: Egyptian border issues.
This article indicates the Egyptian military may now have control of the border with Gaza?
http://bikyamasr.com/wordpress/?p=25050
The last paragraph sums up the danger pretty well.
>>>He added in his JPost story that “Israeli concerns regarding Egypt relate to several issues but focus on the long-term strategic effect Mubarak’s downfall would have on the country and the Muslim Brotherhood’s potential to take over the country. The Brotherhood has said that one of the first things it would do would be to rip up the peace treaty. Israel is also concerned about the effect a regime change would have on Egypt’s border with Gaza, where security forces have recently been working more aggressively to stop arms smuggling to Hamas. While weaponry and explosives have still made their way to the Strip, the security forces have nonetheless been effective in curbing the flow. ‘A change in power could change what happens on the border as well’, a senior defense official said’…”<<<
stratfor.com and debka.com are websites worth watching.
Hamas and the MB have common roots[1], that border will in time should MB via Elbara come to power be more like the AZ MX border
[1] HAMAS: Friend or Foe in the Fight Against Terrorism
(scroll half way down the page to get the MB view of Hamas)
Just keep in mind that debka is Mossad.
I hope they settle this quickly and relatively peacefully. I say that because if they have a violent episode and the government falls anyway which it most likely will that will reinforce the perception that violent overthrow of the regional governments is possible. That would not be the best idea I have ever heard of. However if the violence does come it will almost certainly be at the hands of Mubarack so let's see what happens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjWDrTXMgF8
Next stop the heads of Saud - rolling
Time to party like it's 1789!
that's the big fish, but it will take time
next stop is the house of saud?????????????
Yes I agree...
But why??
answer: gold!!!
Mubarak will leave soon, he's already done his third round of telephone interview for the position of general manager of the Luxor hotel.
You know the saying, never leave your current job until you have your next job in place.
That's the Vegas Luxor right?
Mubarak would fit right in...
And this solves inflation how?
With no structures, no economy. No economy, no inflation.
Hmmm...makes sense.
Wow! Sounds like everything is coming to a head. If the army and people are together as one, then how can anyone who believes in freedom be against this?
Easy. Put ten people in a room and don't even bother asking a question. You'll still get a "No."
The meek shall inherit the earth.
Well, maybe the military and El Baradei can pull this off, kicking out Mubarak relatively peacefully. I hope so.
Thanks for the update GW!
I think it's interesting that the military is (apparently) on the side of the people. If this ever happened in the USA, I would hope that the same would be true. The various levels of civil law enforcement in the US seem to have done everything they can to antagonize the people and establish an "us vs. them" attitude. There is no love lost between the police and the people in this country, and I don't think the LEOs realize how much they are hated by the average person. I am what you would probably call 'lower upper class' and a professional, and I have been repeatedly harrassed by police. I have friends who have been abused and even beaten by them. I avoid them like the plague. In a dire situation, we could only hope for military leaders like that one National Guard general during Katrina who told his troops to lower their weapons, not treat the people like the enemy, and concentrate on helping them and organizing relief rather then being confrontational.
I don't know, Baradei sounds a lot like "welcome the new boss, same as the old boss".
My thoughts, too! Baradei is a UN stooge. His installation is very convenient, no? To me, the UN=NWO. Its bad news for freedom if Baradei is handed the keys to the kingdom.
…the UN=NWO
Yes indeedee. The UN is the Globalist/NWO population control eugenics arm. Baradei is just a CIA/Soros sponsored puppet. Mubarak was a good little obedient dictator but he wouldn’t implement population control like he was supposed to. I hear a lot of talk about democracy and such. Not too realistic IMO. The Egyptian people are screwed any which way… and so are we. But it’s a good diversion.
Exactly
http://tarpley.net/
He has visibility, isn't a quack, and could be an official interim with real elections to be held in some determined time . . . 2 months, 6 months, whatever. Meanwhile, trade organizations, the UN, IMF, and other important elements of tourism could function better than if some unknown within an extremist group grabs the reins.
El Baradei is likely best immediate outcome - as long as it is for short term stabilizing purposes.
The Egyptian secret police are a fearsome bunch. The US has found them very useful in conducting surrogate torture under the 'rendition' program. They are enthusiastic fingernail pullers and testicle burners. We will only know that the Egyptian revolution has succeeded when we see hundreds of these bastards swinging from lampposts in downtown Cairo. No swinging secret police, no revolution.
Secret police heads stuck on the ends of poles is also a nice touch.
Apparently the sprung Muslim Brotherhood prisoners didn't have time for such tasteful displays, they just stopped to beat and rip to shreds any secret police prison officials and guards that didn't see the writing on the wall fast enough.