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When Storming The Bastille Is Not An Option, The Parliament Will Do

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Greek taxpayers are not happy, and in this clip from Bloomberg, they make it painfully obvious. With parliament now having officially passing austerity measures, the question remains: will strikes and demonstrations persist, or will the Greeks tire out and go back to their old, and much poorer, ways. Alternatively, with the ruling PASOK party now certain to plummet in popularity, what would happen if the ND is voted back in ahead of time? They already made it clear that austerity is not an option. And with all of European posturing focused on what Greece promises to do, should those promises be recanted, what then?

 

 


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Fri, 03/05/2010 - 19:33 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Viva la Rev!!!!!!

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 19:37 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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Heads of state in Europe must be gulping a bit when they see those pictures.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 20:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 00:54 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 12:11 | Link to Comment dnarby
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Uh huh.

...Wait until they can't afford their beer, weed, Cheetos, text message plan and cable Tee Vee.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 15:59 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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Don't get me wrong, I enjoy my sativa and all, but what the f can one do alone?  I do not play the stock market and have taken all of my FRNs out of that system.  I am strategically defaulting and challenging my credit cards on the basis of the lack of a bilateral contract between me and the credit card company.  I do not use credit or debit and work on a cash only basis.  I have written editorials that have been placed in my local paper to inform the people outside of my world of the couple hundred people I know.  I have written to and visited my pirate Congressman having no effect. 

I have tried to show everyone that I encounter that the wealth of 155,000,000 Americans has been fraudulently stolen and placed into the hands of 400.    The people I discuss this with wish I would just leave them alone so that they can go and drink beer and watch the game while they ignore their children. 

Violence doesn't seem to be the answer and anyone who dare try that, something I wish not to do, is grossly outgunned. 

The efforts I have expended have been for nothing.  Anyone who does listen and understands the theft that has taken place ignorantly tells me to vote them out for good Republican. 

What does one do when they know Goldman Sach's golden dill-rod has been firmly placed into the arse of each and every one of us?  I've have done all I know to do except for stopping the payment of my taxes as that will just land me firmly into the gulag prison system that exists?  I grow tired of this and would like to see a change back to actual free-market capitalism, but I am out of ideas as to what I can do to change anything. 

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Buy gold, so you can say I told you so?  wait, buy gold so you are still alive to say whatever it is you want to say.  The million Doelarr question:  Who will be the 100th monkey?

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 19:27 | Link to Comment Real Estate Geek
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+1

Well said.  Depressingly so.

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 08:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 03/07/2010 - 18:01 | Link to Comment 3ringmike
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WAKE UP! Your already in the prison system.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 21:06 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 00:56 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 21:03 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 00:05 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 01:25 | Link to Comment Frank Owen
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The populace is powerless because they are ignorant, which is not necessarily their fault.  Ever heard of Mahatma Ghandi?

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 17:55 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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WWGD?  Yeah, when is he coming back?  We could use him right about now.  I guess Celente will have to do.....

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 03:25 | Link to Comment Gunther
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Communist East Grmany's government was overthrown by peaceful demonstrations.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 09:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 11:08 | Link to Comment Crime of the Century
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Guns weren't being pointed at the escape helicopter of Argentina's de la Rua either...

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 19:50 | Link to Comment Frank Owen
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Project Mayhem Iceland edition, was pretty tame. PM Greece won't be anywhere near as tame.

Added: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A_1AB81KLo Fast Forward to 7:33. I agree with Max, another 'fan' of GS.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 19:42 | Link to Comment Crummy
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At :55
SPARTA-AAAAAAAAA!
I bet Francine could help get those Greek bonds off to issue.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 19:49 | Link to Comment BlackBeard
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Well, I guess that's what happens when you rape a bunch of people to the point where they don't have much else to lose.  I hope they do eventually storm their parliament and give some of that rape back to their fiscal rapists.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 20:08 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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They are dying to get back to their 700 euro a month jobs.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 20:15 | Link to Comment chet
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Those are the people demanding their fat government jobs and unrealistic pensions.  They're a big part of the problem.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 20:34 | Link to Comment Frank Owen
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Santelli - "Here’s my problem with this. It takes two to tango. You can’t cheat an honest man." Taibbi - You can’t cheat an honest man? What the fuck does that mean?

http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010/03/03/santelli-on-predatory-lending...

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:10 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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Taibbi is a rarity. A principled, honest reporter with a pair of balls. Look at all the stuff one man has uncovered. Now imagine if their were 100 Matt's in the media. 

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 22:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 15:09 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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There are two "Tea Party" movements.  There's the one that is presented by the mainstream media and that gets the most attention to the point of overshadowing the other (the "Teabaggers"), and then there's the real one.

Yes, the one that is promoted by mainstream media outlets that are trying to paint the narrative according to their marching orders is filled with your typical idiots that thought everything was terrific and endless spending was OK as long as it was a Republican doing it during the reign of the Bush regime.  These are the dead-ender neocons and all the right wingers who somehow still think we need to "finish the job in Iraq and Afghanistan", or at least believe that sort of tripe.  These people are real.  I know people like this.

Then there are the serious-minded, seriously pissed off, Ron Paul-leaning conservative/libertarian/independent/anarchocapitalist types who make up the real Tea Party movement, the one that happens in large groups in halls and small groups over pizza at countless locations around the country, hidden from the parade of idiocy that is the news industry.  These are the real patriots.  People who don't necessarily call themselves that, because even that word is being co-opted by dark forces who can't leave anything sacred alone.

Look, it's no secret what's happening here.  The so-called "Tea Party movement" started as a genuine expression of The People who were simply fed the fuck up.  But the elites controlling the levers are ever vigilant for these types of authentic movements.  They try to get out in front of them and infect them when they are in their infancy, then grow along with them like a parasite.  They are intent on taking every last thing of goodness on this Earth from us and leave us with nothing but our dependence on them.  Pretty soon they'll start trying to hijack Liberty itself; they'll gussy it up, wrap it around themselves and parade it around like their pretty little whore, and wouldn't you like to buy a piece of her?  She's cheap and she'll give you everything you want (but don't fall in love).  Just vote for me and she love you long time.

That's what's happening here.  So don't confuse what you see on TV--the fairy tale being read to you nightly by Papa Leviathan--with what's happening in the real world.

Stop being so fucking gullible and fight.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 15:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 03/07/2010 - 02:33 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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if the young don't give a damn about liberty, then a revolution is pointless.

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 14:03 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Yeah Anon 256283

That young Lenin boy was chewing gum, kicking pop cans on a street corner alright...

Revolutions are multi-faceted, and most of the ingredients are here in the USA.

1.Governments completely out of touch with the people they (purport) to represent.

2. Ballooning, unpayable debts foisted onto those that didn't benefit from the debt.

3. Overwhelming propaganda- completely at odds with what is happening at the street level.

4. Large and growing unemployment and underemployment leading to total disillusionment about the future.

5. Large and growing larger disparity between the "wealthy" and the poor (now the American Middle Class).

6. Recognition that you are not alone in the coming revolution.

And what are we hearing ? Green Shoots (Let them eat cake)

I do not wish for it and I do not want it, but I fear there will be blood.

And the CATALYST is not yet known.  Wall Street, Wallmart and "outsourcing" have destroyed the fabric of a once great nation.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 16:24 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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Fuckin' outstanding Chumba. Exactly what pisses off the real TP movement is that it's been co-opted by the same idiots that thought Bush was a great president. The real teaparty members can't stand Bush. 

But, here's the catch. Our message now gets lumped in with the genetic misfits. That's why I'm pissed. I hate Republicans but everytime I mention true teaparty principles, folks give me both barrels on wanting war in the middle east, or supporting the Patriot Act. Jesus. 

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 21:21 | Link to Comment boiow
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nobody thought bush was a great president. thats impossible.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 22:45 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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You'd think. But it's true. A lot of them loved him for building up the military and getting tough on terrorism. They think he's a goddamn hero. 

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 14:13 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Dubya just built up a bigger, useless bureaucracy, just like the loony left would have.

So rather that having a lean and mean nation in fighting form, we built a "go shopping" nation. 

Bush, like Obama, will go down in history, as another disaster of a president, lacking leadership and foresight. 

Bush could barely read his cue cards, and Obama is sounding more and more hollow on the Teleprompter.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 19:36 | Link to Comment Real Estate Geek
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Pretty soon they'll start trying to hijack Liberty itself; they'll gussy it up, wrap it around themselves and parade it around like their pretty little whore, and wouldn't you like to buy a piece of her?  She's cheap and she'll give you everything you want (but don't fall in love).

 

Pretty soon?  That's been happening for years, and moved into overdrive with the passage of the so-called "Patriot" Act.  The pretty little whore they're parading around is safety from the terrorists.

Other than that, I couldn't agree with you more.

 

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 20:18 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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+1776

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 12:26 | Link to Comment Bearish Spirits
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Taibbi is an excellent financial journalist, but he is a terrible social journalist.  Matt apparently has no concept of population ratios and their bearing on raw stats.  If whites are 65% of the pop. and 42% of the Medicaid enrollment, doesn't that mean whites are chronically underrepresented on the Medicare rolls?

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:17 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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Hey Matt:

WHY IS ALWAYS ABOUT RACE WITH YOU PEOPLE?  You are much much more obsessed with race than we are, and I can only think of one reason for that to be true.  The racial tension exists in YOUR mind, not in mine.  Why is that, Matt?

Here in Virginia, the Tea Party is pushing two bills; one of them is an opt-out of national health care bill, and the other one is a firearms measure that exempts guns made and kept in Virginia from federal regulations.  Neither of these bills have anything to do with welfare, race, or any of the other crap you try to smear us with in this paragraph:

"This whole scene sort of encapsulates what’s wrong with the Tea Party movement. The movement, and let’s admit this, has some of its roots in legitimate grievances about government waste and some not-entirely-inaccurate observations about what’s left of the American welfare state. Of course what resonates most with the suburban whites who mostly make up the Tea Party are stories about minorities and immigrants using section 8 housing, food stamps, Medicaid, TANF and other programs, with the Obama stimulus being for them a symbol of this ongoing government largess. The heat of the Tea Party movement comes from the racial frustrations that actually exist out there, in the real world outside New York and LA, as urban expansion and immigration increasingly throw white and nonwhite communities together, with white Tea Party types more and more often blowing gaskets over increased crime rates, declining school standards, and mislaid or wasted tax revenue."

I've never heard any of those things discussed.  So, how do you know that's what they're about?  Where do you get off telling people that that's what we're about?  Are you psychic?  You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

Wanna know what pushed me into the movement?  TARP.

F**k you.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:36 | Link to Comment Frank Owen
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" (Sarah) Palin supported TARP when it was first implemented, saying that "it is a time of crisis and government did have to step in," and later wrote that Republican opposition to TARP was "not helpful to our cause."" - Media Matters.

Tea-Party keynote speaker? Serious?

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 22:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 02:40 | Link to Comment swamp
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When mainstream could no longer dismiss or marginalize the tea party groups, they  swooned in to pretend to be a part of it. Nasty Pelosi called them astroturf and weeks later said she represented them too. There's no form for membership and anyone can claim to be one.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 10:10 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 10:13 | Link to Comment CrazyCooter
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Great youtube of "official" TeaParty racism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJBQYMZOrN4

 

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:26 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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My fiance and I were at the Ft. Lauderdale Tea Party in July. We saw, actually heard, our fair share of hyper-right bigots there. 

My favorite poster was "Double Gitmo. There's too many arabs". 

Now, how's that not racist? 

That was BEFORE the Palin crowd hijacked it. The neocon locals heard "tea party", figured it was anti-tax, and jumped on the bandwagon. 

The rally was about, ohh I'm guessing 3/ths Paul supporters and 1/4 retards. And they were obnoxious as hell in those numbers. I could only guess how foul the rallies have become now. 

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 22:32 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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I never saw, or see, any of that.  If I did I'd tell them off.  As for Palin, she is a major part of the republican plan to co-opt the movement, and the morons that hosted what they called a "national convention" were neocons themselves AFAIK.  I've been to the national march in DC on sept 12th, and there was a wide variety of sentiments represented there, but none of them were racist.  I think the dems put out talking points that the tea parties are racist as a means of marginalizing them.  The faithful are buying it, but they'd buy two pounds of shit in a one pound bag if the national party told them to.

I'm really pissed off to see Taibbi jump back onto the party wagon so fast and with such weak arguments.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 23:47 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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The Miami Tea Party I went to last year on April 15 had all kinds there, though mostly white and hispanic.

We had fun with our signs and getting cars to honk and give us honks and thumbs-up!

DO NOT underestimate how pissed off regular people (at least these) are, and how they blame both parties, but especially the democrats.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 07:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 00:32 | Link to Comment Marley
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http://www.onpointradio.org/media-player?url=http://www.onpointradio.org...

Good interview to listen too, even attempts to address the racist concerns.  Most bothersome to me occurs at 28:34 into it when McQueen brings the concept of armed revolution, "The Bullet Box", into the discussion.  I didn't like Bush, what he represented, or did to this country, but I never thought about armed revolution.  Why do fascist extremists alway revert to guns?

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 01:24 | Link to Comment Crummy
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I think everyone sort of expects political discourse to be sanitized and perfect, and by its very nature as a decentralized movement, the Tea Party 'aint ready for prime time.

Some people can't accept the fact that ignorant people are disenfranchised, maybe it reminds them of what a dick dad was or something. Because the average JoeTP's basic understanding of what caused their problems is distorted many feel perfectly justified, or even a sense of responsibility, to ridicule them as if their basic grievances aren't legitimate.

Which, I guess, is much easier than trying to put them on the right track by providing a rational counter point to their irrational beliefs.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 13:09 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 11:27 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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Well SWR, I did. And the tone and style of these monkeys made us sick. They stood openly for so much of what we despise as active members of Campaign for Liberty. . Basically the hard-right RWA crowd. I'm not doubting your experience, but these tea baggers at the Ft. Lauderdale rally made my fiancee and I decide not to participate anymore. 

We'd realized right then and there that the movement had been hijacked by ogres. 

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 12:02 | Link to Comment Jerome Lester H...
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Teabaggers...eh? Tell us how you really feel. It is quite obviously apparent where you lean politically and one has to realize that when one uses slander (monkeys, teabaggers) to bolster ones position that ultimately the foundation upon which your argument is premised is weak and unstable!

I'm not advocating for right or left here but it seems to me that it is impossible to bring groups of people together (such as The Tea Parties) who are going to agree 100% on anything and when you resort to Ad Hominem attacks that you weaken the strength of your argument.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 12:47 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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It's very obvious that I lean politically? 

Is it possible that I hate both the right and the left? Is it possible that I see no core differences between them? What is possible is the contempt I have for the useful idiots that still believe that shit. People that still take their message from "someone else". 

The tea party is full of neanderthols. It sure as hell isn't portraying it's original message. And it's original message is nothing like Santelli's, Palins, or Armey's message. 

I'm pissed. I mean really pissed. If everytime a good grass roots movement is going to get hijacked by the DC clowns and then packed with mindless video sheep, then we're pretty much fucked as a nation. 

War with Iran? That has NOTHING to do with the original tea party message. In fact, it's teh opposite of what we preach. Here's a newsflash: It's NOT grassroots anymore. Not when Sarah Palin shows up. I hate that bitch. 

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 22:41 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 00:36 | Link to Comment fiasco
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hey, you-a tea bag party is super gay

you meet to have pizza and beer and say stuff-a isn't constitutional

 

'real meat'  that's the truth.  you stuff you faces and say stuff-a isn't constitutional

go fuck you self constitutional man

"we want energy...can you pass the tartar sauce...independence"

"we want fiscal....is anybody going to have that last piece of pizza....prudence"

 

 

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 08:15 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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Allow me to be candid about how I feel about your post. 

Fuck you. 

OK, got that out of my system. What I really would like to request is that you read the constitution. No, it's not a book, or a novella. It's a document. Someone must have mentioned the thing to you before. 

It's beautifully written and you'd be surprised at what is inside it. Go read it. Learn about it before you post horseshit like this, OK? 

When I think of WHY this nation is in trouble, I think of atrophied, pea-brained assholes like you who have no framework or construct of law to base their ideas on. Whatever feels good to you I guess. Big toe itches? Must be a good idea. Nuts tickling? Pass that law!

Just sayin....

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 09:43 | Link to Comment ShankyS
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+1

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 12:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 14:02 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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+1789

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 09:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 12:24 | Link to Comment desafio
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i so sorry for my a stupid brother. in da family we a call him finocchio.

hey finnochio, why a don you go back to your room and clean up a the dildos all over the place? you a fucking embarrasment to mama.  she say worse dick she ever had was when a the milkman come by and fuck her and a gave us a you.

your a boyfriend call, he want the videos back already.

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 02:42 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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lol

i imagine all these faux italian posts being spoken by Tony Shaloub. Or Father Guido Sarducci.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 18:00 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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to illiterate mario,

blabitty bloo.

Mr LH

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 10:15 | Link to Comment masterinchancery
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Amen.  When these media talking heads can't talk about the massive real problems in the country, because their corporate masters won't allow it, they always resort to slandering those in the populace who do.  By the way, surveys show that tea partiers are FAR better educated than average.

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Hey Anon 255781

You've been called out by the China plants...

Excellent issues- necessary to rebuild this nation.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 02:37 | Link to Comment swamp
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It's always about race with those people because they have no sound substance to oppose so they play the emotional race card.

BTW it's TRUE that there are millions of Mexicans and other primarily Hispanic usually illegal invaders on Section 8, Food Stamps, and other services, including 'free' education for kids with 'free' lunches, medical, legal services and other tax payer funded services that many WHITE people who happen to be American citizens pay for. No social security numbers needed to open a bank account, sanctuary cities, press 2 for English and generally and in sum, the TWO TIER system is clearly itself RACIST and highly discriminatroy against Amercians who pay for this abuse.

The race card people are intent on covering the truth of the matter. 

Horrah for Virginia, my home state, where I might return if these bills pass.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 11:02 | Link to Comment Marley
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Quick question.  What about the withholding taxes paid by these workers that go toward the majority of whites who don't work but collect these benefits?

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 12:22 | Link to Comment Bearish Spirits
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What do you mean by "the majority of whites?"  As of '08, percent on Medicaid, for example:

White--11.25%-13%

Black, Hispanic--35.5% each.

As for any non-cash job withholding taxes, I'm sure most get all that money back(or more) through tax credits and other public services.  Plus, many people of all races who are on public aid put in the effort to find out every credit and loophole to get taxpayer money. 

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 13:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 15:27 | Link to Comment Bearish Spirits
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You may be surprised that I agree with the vast majority of your points.  I also don't believe I said anything disparaging about blacks or hispanics, I just presented the percentage of the population of each ethnicity which is enrolled in Medicaid.  I believe the elites have ginned up racial animosity to maintain control and keep everyone at each other's throats instead of addressing flaws in the system. 

I stated that there are many welfare cheats...so aren't I technically saying there are probably more white welfare cheats than minority welfare cheats?  It's a big problem when someone is accused of focusing on ethnicity when responding to a comment which focused on...ethnicity.  Also, the evasion of tax responsibilities by the wealthy elites are so well-documented on this board that I didn't believe I even needed to mention them. 

Will I say that many of the elites who have been screwing things up are white?  Hell yes.  If I am understanding your argument correctly, you're saying that free trade/free labor movement is insane and self-destructive.  I completely agree.  I think we should have tariffs and other labor protections in place.

There is nothing wrong with the idea of communism or the idea of socialism, but until we get rid of the urge of some to control others, they can never be successfully and fairly implemented.

If you thought I was some neo-con Rushbot who approves of the downhill slide this country has been on for the last 40 years because of the policies of both sides, nothing could be further from the truth. 

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 16:30 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Divide and conquer.  Oldest trick in the book, and we fall for it every time.

Bottom line: until everyone is held to account for themself and their own, nothing will change.  You can't help someone who can't help themselves.  You must teach others how to help themselves, and only then can we all live in liberty.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 15:39 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Awesome.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 14:30 | Link to Comment Marley
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http://www.statehealthfacts.org/profileind.jsp?ind=158&cat=3&rgn=1

Good obfuscation attempt, you need to add multiple races together to get your numbers.  Still Whites are the majority race receiving Medicaid.  Which I might add is paid for by withholdings on income.  Another little factoid, the ratio of payment by taxpayer to the S&L bailout to financial aid to the poor was 6:1.  Imagine what the ratio will be with the current war against humanity waged by the elites.  Do you consider yourself an elite?

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 15:47 | Link to Comment Bearish Spirits
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I used numbers straight from that website, with a little math.  National total demographic numbers were taken from Wikipedia.

% of whites on Medicaid= # of whites on Medicaid/total # of U.S. whites

and the same for blacks and hispanics.

 With hispanic whites added in, 11.25% of whites are on Medicaid.

 Without hispanic whites, 12.9% of whites are on Medicaid.

 Blacks: 35.4% are on Medicaid.

 Hispanics: 35.7% are on Medicaid.

I did nothing dishonest in presenting these numbers.  As I stated in my comment just above, I believe the elites have purposely pitted ethnicities against each other as a distraction.  I was against TARP and all of these bailouts from day one, by the way.  I was addressing the point in your first post which focused on whites(which was technically accurate, by the way), and nothing more. 

I am nowhere close to being an elite.  I'm trying to make sense of what the elite have done to our society.   

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 16:10 | Link to Comment Marley
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OK, I understand.  Sorry to insult.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:28 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 03/06/2010 - 14:03 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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LAMO. Ouch, that hurt. 

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 01:19 | Link to Comment Frank Owen
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It means, an honest man isn't going to dig a big ass hole for himself by loading up with debt.

The American taxpayers will be footing the bill for Freddy, frannie, citi, gm, whoever the hell else was bailed out... So, sometimes the honest man gets the hole dug for him by someone else and is then pushed into it. Libtard, that's a good one, I haven't heard that one since i was at the zoo watching monkeys throw shit at each other.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 05:27 | Link to Comment BorisTheBlade
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It means, an honest man isn't going to dig a big ass hole for himself by loading up with debt.

this has nothing to do with being 'honest', financially conservative yes, in fact during the boom times only fantastic assholes don't get into debt (jus' kidding).

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 14:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 03/05/2010 - 23:42 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Ya but what is funny is the people who have shit jobs are the ones doing all the work to tear at the government. Then once they finally do succeed they are going to have to go do it all over again to the fat government pension whores. We are going to have a severe cop shortage in this world by the end of next year.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 01:17 | Link to Comment Frank Owen
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"Time and time again down the ages, the Middle have overthrown the High by enlisting the Low on their side, pretending to the Low that after the revolution a just society will emerge. However, once the Middle have taken over, they simply become the new High and thrust the Low back into servitude, and as a new Middle group eventually splits off, the pattern repeats." -

I hate that quote and your observation. It is so damn true.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 11:29 | Link to Comment Crime of the Century
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Sorry, I ain't buying. The wealthy (non-inheritance type) generally aren't stupid. What I see rather is a tag-team of limo libs and cynical crony capitalists conspiring to "help" the downtrodden, and use them in a pincers attack on the middle class. In class warfare, every class is despised by the others, some just more overtly.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 17:47 | Link to Comment Frank Owen
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I agree for now, but we are probably only in the third inning.

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 00:09 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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...and there is more money to be made in the destruction of a nation than in the creation of one, my dear Scarlett.

Cold beer here, get your cold beer.  Peanuts, souvenir programs!

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 01:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:03 | Link to Comment 10044
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nobody likes cuts, a herion addict doesn't like withdrawal symptoms, but that's exactly what he needs.

Cuts are the ONLY way out of this, not the keynesian/Summers/Geithner/Obama/Krugman sheitsters "spend your way out of it" garbage.

CUTS, CUTS, MORE CUTS, UNTIL YOU CAN'T CUT ANYMORE, THEN YOU CAN RE-BUILD WITH CAPITAL AND INVESTMENTS. CAPITALISM RULES, ALWAYS HAS, ALWAYS WILL

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:18 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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Agreed. I don't want anyone hurting, but without the cuts it'll be worse. And we need to rip at least 300 billion out of the military-security complex too. 

And for those that savor "slash the programs to the bone", we're talking about riots in greece. You don't think that would happen here if we suddenly eliminated programs? Come on.. They have to be replaced with SOMETHING. You need to cut them, yes. But to eliminate them you need to build up institutions that can address major issues. Social institutions that have eroded. That's going to take at least a generation. Eliminating key programs will cause political revolution. And trust me, if "free market types" cause the program elimination, then it sure as hell won't be a market economy that you'll get post-revolution. 

It'll likely be your worst nightmare. 

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 23:05 | Link to Comment jeb3
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+10

As much as the obvious, fiscally responsible choices pop out to some of us, I agree whole heartedly with your assessment.  If the free market types manage to take over policy making in the short/medium term I also fear that in they will be overwhelmingly hated before any potential recovery (if one exists) emerges.  The resulting regime and consequences I do not enjoy imagining.

Simultaneously, though, I fear that a gradual "sun-setting" of many of the programs that must be cut is not feasible under the current "policy makers" employed worldwide.

.....gold bitches?

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 14:35 | Link to Comment Kayman
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The substitute is repatriating "outsourced" jobs back home.

Stop beggaring the nation to China.

Stop paying Wallmart reparations to China.

Send Jack Welch to China so he can Six Sigma them with his "outsourcing" bullshit.

Maybe he can convince the Chinese to "outsource" their jobs to Indonesia.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 02:48 | Link to Comment swamp
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+100

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 20:07 | Link to Comment Get_to_the_choppa
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I find it strangely appropriate that 'Greek' is street slang for 'taking it in the rear'.

 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=greek

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 20:42 | Link to Comment Rick64
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Yeah and in the left hand corner of the video it says Learn Greek in 10 days . Ouch that sounds painful.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 01:08 | Link to Comment fiasco
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i have a feeling that no matter the story is, you thinking of taking it in the rear.

what's-a matter for you, you boyfriend late tonight.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Get_to_the_choppa
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That's not even clever.  You need better weed.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 18:04 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I was trying to ignore you.  are you going to try and stick around?  should I junk your posts now, or later?

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 20:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 03/06/2010 - 09:46 | Link to Comment ShankyS
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+100 I'll be borrowing that one. Thanks.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 18:18 | Link to Comment CombustibleAssets
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Good one!

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Hey Anon 255688

You are right and you are dead wrong.

Most parasites don't know they have a host. They keep sucking til the blood runs cold.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 20:59 | Link to Comment THE DORK OF CORK
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This is not a new phenomena people it has happened before.

Back in the 70s the  unions were in a postion of power not unlike the domestic banks of today

The unions of the 1970s followed the money supply through higher wage agreements while recently commercial banks have created vast amounts of money / debt through their ponzi schemes - in both instances they drove the government agenda and were / are the government

Standing behind these 2 movements were the central banks who do not believe in investing for the future , they believe in maximizing profits for their cartel.

The cutbacks of the 1980s were necessary but the resulting surplus created was not used to invest in the future but to enrich certain sections of the moneyed elite.

The boa constrictor has embraced us for some time but I fear that we are about to exhale for the last time.

Are we doomed to continue the same mistakes again and be consumed by the vipers and reptiles that inhabit the financial jungle ?

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 04:17 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 15:47 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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It's a perfect opportunity for Monsanto and Dow to bring back Agent Orange.

All the goodness of a nuclear storm of locusts in a friendly color.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 20:58 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 03/05/2010 - 20:58 | Link to Comment Missing_Link
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Cannot watch protests.  Drop-dead gorgeous anchorwoman is too distracting.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 00:48 | Link to Comment fiasco
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drop-dead?

is it because you from arkansas and she has all her teeth?

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 18:05 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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yeah i am going to junk all your posts from here on out.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:05 | Link to Comment Rollerball
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test-tube Baha'is

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:13 | Link to Comment geopol
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Political protests, general strikes and the decline of civilization..All tied to international politics,,

by Master Bates
on Fri, 03/05/2010 - 15:48
#255244

 

Are you serious?

We can't even win a war against a shithole country like Afghanistan, and here you are saying we can beat everybody in the world simultaneously?

In case you noticed, we've spent trillions of dollars chasing 20 guys on camels with boxcutters, and we still haven't won after nine years now.
But oh yeah, bring on the rest of the world...

 

by geopol
on Fri, 03/05/2010 - 20:52
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MB

The ongoing civil war in Afghanistan is merely a pretext, a cover story designed to provide the United States with a springboard for a geopolitical destabilization campaign in the entire region which cannot be publicly avowed. In the blunt cynical world of imperialist aggression à la Bush and Cheney, a pretext might have been manufactured to attack Pakistan directly. But Pakistan is far too large and the United States is far too weak and too bankrupt for such an undertaking. In addition, Pakistan is a nuclear power, possessing atomic bombs and medium range missiles needed to deliver them. What we are seeing is a novel case of nuclear deterrence in action. The US cannot send an invasion fleet or set up airbases nearby because Pakistani nuclear weapons might destroy them. To this extent, the efforts of Ali Bhutto and A.Q. Khan to provide Pakistan a deterrent capability have been vindicated. But the US answer is to find ways to attack Pakistan below the nuclear threshold, and even below the conventional threshold. This is where the tactic of exporting the Afghan civil war to Pakistan comes in.

The architect of the new Pakistani civil war is US Special Forces General Stanley McChrystal, who organized the infamous network of US torture chambers in Iraq . McChrystal’s specific credential for the Pakistani civil war is his role in unleashing the Iraqi civil war of Sunnis versus Shiites by creating “al Qaeda in Iraq ” under the infamous and now departed double agent Zarkawi. If Iraqi society as a whole had lined up against the US invaders, the occupiers would have soon been driven out. The counter-gang known as “Al Qaeda in Iraq ” avoided that possibility by killing Shiites, and thus calling forth massive retaliation in the form of a civil war. These tactics are drawn from the work of British General Frank Kitson, who wrote about them in his book Low Intensity Warfare. If the United States possesses a modern analog to Heinrich Himmler of the SS, it is surely General McChrystal, Obama’s hand-picked choice. McChrystal’s superior, Gen Petraeus, wants to be the new Field Marshal von Hindenburg – in other words, he wants to be the next US president.

The vulnerability of Pakistan which the US and its NATO associates are seeking to exploit can best be understood using a map of the prevalent ethnic groups of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and India. Most maps show only political borders which date back to the time of British imperialism, and therefore fail to reflect the principal ethnic groups of the region. For the purposes of this analysis, we must start by recognizing a number of groups. First is the Pashtun people, located mainly in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Then we have the Baluchis, located primarily in Pakistan and Iran. The Punjabis inhabit Pakistan, as do the Sindhis. The Bhutto family came from Sind.

 

People of Greece...Take back your country from the financial terrorists... If only in Amerika

 

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:34 | Link to Comment geopol
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The US and NATO strategy begins with the Pashtuns, the ethnic group from which the so-called Taliban are largely drawn. The Pashtuns represent a substantial portion of the population of Afghanistan, but here they are alienated from the central government under President Karzai in Kabul, even though the US puppet Karzai passes for a Pashtun himself. The issue involves the Afghan National Army, which was created by the United States after the 2001 invasion. The Afghan officer corps are largely Tajiks drawn from the Northern Alliance that allied with the United States against the Pashtun Talibans. The Tajiks speak Dari, sometimes known as eastern Persian. Other Afghan officers come from the Hazara people. The important thing is that the Pashtuns feel shut out.

The US strategy can best be understood as a deliberate effort at persecuting, harassing, antagonizing, strafing, repressing, and murdering the Pashtuns. The additional 40,000 US and NATO forces which Obama demands for Afghanistan will concentrate in Helmand province and other areas where the Pashtuns are in the majority. The net effect will be to increase the rebellion of the fiercely independent Pashtuns against Kabul and the foreign occupation, and at the same time to push many of these newly radicalized mujaheddin fighters across the border into Pakistan , where they can wage war against the central government in Islamabad . US aid will flow directly to war lords and drug lords, increasing the centrifugal tendencies.

On the Pakistani side, the Pashtuns are also alienated from the central government. Islamabad and the army are seen by them as too much the creatures of the Punjabis, with some input from the Sindhis. On the Pakistani side of the Pashtun territory, US operations include wholesale assassinations from unmanned aerial vehicles or drones, murders by CIA and reportedly Blackwater snipers, plus blind terrorist massacres like the recent ones in Peshawar which the Pakistani Taliban are blaming on Blackwater, acting as a subcontractor of the CIA. These actions are intolerable and humiliating for a proud sovereign state. Every time the Pashtuns are clobbered, they blame the Punjabis in Islamabad for the dirty deals with the US that allow this to happen. The most immediate goal of Obama’s Afghan-Pakistan escalation is therefore to promote a general secessionist uprising of the entire Pashtun people under Taliban auspices, which would already have the effect of destroying the national unity of both Kabul and Islamabad .

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 23:00 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 02:48 | Link to Comment geopol
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The net effect will be to increase the rebellion of the fiercely independent Pashtuns against Kabul and the foreign occupation, and at the same time to push many of these newly radicalized mujaheddin fighters across the border into Pakistan , where they can wage war against the central government in Islamabad .

Catspaw on Islamabad...

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 03:07 | Link to Comment swamp
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Gandhi was always seen as being too lenient to the Muslims and sacrificing the Hindus to the Muslims. My friend's father was in Parliament in India before and at the time Pakistan was created and he fought and voted against creating a separate nation state for the Muslims as he foresaw it would become a terrorist state.  

 

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 15:58 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Yeah, cuz them Moozlems is all just terrorists.  Give them their own state and what do they do with it?  Turn it into a terror Mecca.  Er, wait, there's already a place called that.

Anyway, nice logic.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 15:06 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Bid Laden is winning this war- the U.S. is playing a trillion dollar whack-a-mole strategy while the goat-milk drinker is spending mere millions, slipped to him by his Saudi relatives through Dubai; naturally, from money the U.S. pays for Middle East oil.

And ultimately, it is Israel and Saudi Arabia that have the real mutual interest in slapping down the Mullahs and their dirty little puppet in Iran.

And for Greece, a bunch of mollycoddled Government employees matched against a black market private sector, does not a nation make. 

The E.U. needs to cut off this gangrene before it infects the rest of the body. But the EU won't. SOMETHING FOR NOTHING rules !

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 22:08 | Link to Comment geopol
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Bin Laden???

 

He is a CIA legion operative....As I have said before,,dead or alive, same effect for the Amerikan populace, which has enveloped you,,apparently..You can recover if you read enough.. Although you have fractions of your post absolutely correct..I have hope for you to become someone who can change things....Look inward,,think//// you are the movement... Once you learn, I will be at you side. until then, you could snipe me....

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 18:25 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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What book did you paste this from?  j/k as it sounds like you wrote it.  thank you for the info, or is it intell? Correct terminology for WWIII. 

PS if we can not get rid of Karzai and his opium dealing family, how will we get rid of our own gov.?

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 00:17 | Link to Comment caconhma
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Yes indeed, nuclear Muslim Pakistan is too much to swallow for America imperialism and its Zionist masters. Consequently, the USA would like to destabilize Pakistan.

There are two major problems in dealing with Pakistan: it is very large and it is China's friendly neighbour.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:17 | Link to Comment HankPaulson
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I like the Greeks, but it disappoints me that they're not embracing austerity.

 

Did they really think they could work for a living, pay taxes, save for retirement, and everything would somehow be ok ??

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:24 | Link to Comment geopol
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Surly you jest....It's Amerika your referring to...You mixed the country header....

The body of your post however, is correct..

 

 

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 11:33 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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+1

geo for Secretary of [Defense] 2012!!

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 18:27 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Ventura, but Geo can be assistant.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 23:48 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Greed never rests and never retires. So you can't either.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 03:22 | Link to Comment swamp
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Yes, the Greeks thought their government jobs were entitlement, and a janitor's salary of USD 60k per year and retirement at age 45 was sustainable. Just like here in entitlement America where the sheriff of San Luis Obispo County rakes in $640k per year, why shouldn't that be sustainable? After all, Helicopter Ben will print all we need.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:25 | Link to Comment B9K9
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will the Greeks tire out and go back to their old, and much poorer, ways?

I've got news for you: everyone is going back to their old ways, some poorer, some richer.  It's all simply a function of productivity - the efficient application of capital + labor. The only thing the last 20-30 year period of credit-leveraged asset-inflation accomplished was creating a false sense of entitlement amongst an awful lot of people.

And I don't mean just foreigners; I'm referring specifically to many of my fellow Californians. A lot of immigrants (including my dear wife - a NYC transplant) only know the California of the last generation - the cleaned up, gussied version.

I've told her, and I'll tell the board, if you want to know what California really looked like as recently as 1975, there is no better snap-shot of that period than the original "Gone in 60 Seconds". Shot on the streets of LA County's South Bay, today home to some of the most expensive real estate in the USA, it looks no different than a generic suburb of a mid-western city such as Chicago.

The reason for this appearance, of course, is that the Bay Area & SoCal were NO different than generic mid-western suburbs! We're talking major extractive industries like oil, gas & commercial fishing, large scale manufacturing (not the least being aerospace), huge military bases and construction. High-tech (my biz) & entertainment (ie Hollywood) get a lot of attention (because it sells media), but they represent a fraction of the 'real' economy.

But as California shifted away from a productive economy, towards one centered around financing serial debt expansionary bubbles, we saw the effect that old magic of asset (housing) inflation had on the overall demographic composition. Middle-class moved out, to be replaced with lower class immigrants to serve those who had carved out a slice at the top.

So now we have nice 'clean' FIRE industries with none of that hurly burly going on. The gardeners & nannies are allowed in during the day (special dispensations are granted to evening restaurant workers) and everything seems hunky dory. Except it isn't.

The opportunity, which I've hinted at on other threads, lies in identifying not only the resulting applications, but the processes by which we will return from whence we came. These will provide the core drivers for goods & services as we all take this collective journey back to our roots.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:53 | Link to Comment geopol
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B9K9,

Another good analysis...

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:32 | Link to Comment Get_to_the_choppa
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As a life-long Californian (although only 31 years of age) I couldn't agree more.  While I didn't see the cali of 1975, I did see the middle to end of the mind blowing expansion, especially in Southern Cal.  There will be tremendous opportunity in the crash of this state (and indeed the global economy) for those who are aware and in a position to take advantage. 

In general though, in CA specifically, I think those lower on the totem pole, already used to dealing with hard times and making something out of nothing AND presently keeping ethnic/familial/communal ties in place are going to come out smelling like roses.  The vast majority of the 'middle class' (all tiers) is going to get eaten alive and have no clue what to do or how to transition.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 00:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:38 | Link to Comment 35Pete
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Wow. That was a very good read. 

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 00:41 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/06/2010 - 03:30 | Link to Comment swamp
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The private middle class moved out and the government public paid employees demanded to be paid a wage that entitled them to live in the city or county in which they worked, regardless of their education, job title, capability or productivity. Now anyone who has a clerical job feels entitled to be paid a 'livable' wage, i.e., to be able to afford the high standard of the area, so you get clerks making $70k per year and GED graduates starting salaries to be goon at the state prisons beginning at $75k up to $250k per year.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 11:37 | Link to Comment lawton
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That must be in states like California and New York. The southern states pay those people nothing hardly but some local municipalities in Florida are overpaying them because they gave very large raises during the housing bubble property tax windfall and its killing their budgets now.

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 15:35 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Thanks B9K9

 

LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THE "FEDERAL RESERVE CABAL" CREATED THIS MESS THROUGH CREDIT CREATION AND MONSTROUSLY LOW INTEREST RATES.

By killing this country's real savers and encouraging the expansion of current consumption (combined with the politically sanctioned export of American jobs) the wheels have come off this economy.

No base line jobs, no base line tax foundation, no tax revenue, no country.

The Illusion of Wealth through Asset Inflation (pushed by expanding Debt) is poison that is not easily extracted from the publics mind; we have had at least a generation of the Something for Nothing economy.

 

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 10:19 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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B9K9,

I'm glad I read that.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 11:47 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Spot on B9K9
When do you start that journey???

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 11:48 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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An interesting choice: 1975.

The end of all that "Bring The War Home" and "Piece Now Peace Later". Weather Underground and Symbionese Liberation Army facing a society that didn't want to tolerate the Vietnam bedlam brought home - Americana didn't want to hear that they were complicit by "sin of omission" apathy to mass murder abroad. 

The real power of a fiat currency unleashed in '71 beginning to take hold.

I'm trying to put so many pieces together because I either wasn't paying attention, or serious subjects were not treated seriously in my years of public schooling.

Great post B9. Thanks. Wish I could be a coastal spotter for you (fanboy).

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 18:28 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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+++

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:23 | Link to Comment THE DORK OF CORK
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Does anybody find it disconcerting that the ECB dictated that governments follow a 3% deficit rule which governments either followed or made a attempt to follow or pretended to follow but private sector debt was allowed to explode almost into infinity.

There is no doubt in my mind that the agenda of the Frankfurt gnomes was to castrate the member government's of the union to the point of irrelevance.

Once the governments attempted to pick up the tab for the casualties primarily caused by ECB loose monetary policies they would be attacked for fiscal profligacy.

I have to say that I am impressed by the cartels imagination and long term planning - this is thoroughly a cou de ta of immense scale and intelligence.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:39 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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You have me convinced, we have no chance against the cartel.  They are just too smart.  I'm moving to Hare Island to fish for lobster.  Can I get an EU grant?

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 21:49 | Link to Comment THE DORK OF CORK
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Do you have a license for such activity - no license no grant

Besides a headless/hedgeless horseman may have some difficulty manoeuvring a currach around the islands of Roaring water bay.

Would you be a vest cork man would you

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