White House Now Accepting Comments On H.R. 3808

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Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:49 | 632351 Bob
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Great comedy, Tyler! 

Illustrations, WB7?

BTW,  the "Tell Barry what you think" [cough] tool [cough] was very user-friendly, took less than 60 seconds.  Thanks for the link!

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:31 | 632776 JohnKing
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My comments to WH:


Hi Barack

You need to sign this right away or I'll have Timmy and Ben engineer another little "flash crash" in time for November elections.



Thu, 10/07/2010 - 15:08 | 633262 Millivanilli
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This is  like  Mao's 100 flowers campaign.   Tell us what you think, don't hold back, now.   3 months later you'll all be in fema camps pounding sand!

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:44 | 632355 Dr. Richard Head
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Voice votes are fun to pass bills as all those accountable are no longer so.  Can't have the plebes see who sold us to the bankers again, and again, and again, and again. 

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:45 | 632359 Mako
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You always have the right to challenge notarized items, it doesn't matter where it was signed.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:46 | 632362 alien-IQ
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I fear the potential legal ramifications of my possible comment and it's relation to my blood alcohol content. I will, therefore, refrain from expressing my views on the matter on any .gov type website heeding the advice of my attorney and bartender, whom are of course, one and the same.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:09 | 632477 blunderdog
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Well-stated, as per Oscar Acosta:

"You're going to need plenty of legal advice before this thing is over."

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:48 | 632367 Cognitive Dissonance
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What a wonderful way to join the White House watch list of possible domestic (or foreign) terrorists. Make sure you use your real name, address and a working phone number. And don't bother using a public computer, you home Dell laptop works just fine. :>)

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:51 | 632386 infotechsailor
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just b sure and notarize your house to infotechsailor, in the event you get "suicided"

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:36 | 632571 Cognitive Dissonance
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For a few Gold Eagles, I'll be happy to assign my underwater mortgage to you. We can move forward from there.

Now, how do you spell your name? :>)

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:54 | 632644 TraderTimm
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I believe the term now is "tubbed", or perhaps "Simmoned".

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:53 | 632396 Bob
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I'm thinking most of us crossed that event horizon long ago-o-o-o-o-o . . .

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:11 | 632481 Cognitive Dissonance
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Rest assured, if you're on ZH you've already crossed into the black hole. Thus the reason for the bold smiley face after my silly statement above.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:15 | 632499 Bob
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Just FYI--I no longer use the Dell.  But, of course, they know that.  8>)

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:10 | 632480 UGrev
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Do you live your life in fear all the time? or just when it comes to telling your (supposedly) representative government how to operate under the terms of the people. Regardless of if they listen or not; that's irrelevant.  If you think they care about you not being on a list,  you're a fool. You already have a digital trail. You're on a list...inside the government computer system etc etc etc. 

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:16 | 632498 Cognitive Dissonance
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No, your wrong. I'm a law abiding American citizen. I've done nothing wrong what-so-ever so the government would never put me on any list or collect any information about who I am or my political beliefs or what I purchase or what web sites I visit.

The government only does that to the bad guys and then only with the written approval of a thoughtful and upstanding judge. So there. :p)

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:22 | 632514 Bob
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Of course everybody's already on the "list".  And that is everybody.  Insiders have reported plenty on the NSA junction boxes on the backbone of the web.  Why do ya spoze FISA gave retroactive immunity to telecoms? 

Fuck 'em, that ship really has already sailed.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:24 | 632528 UGrev
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Sarcasm duly noted. 

taking bets that I'm on more lists than you :) in fact, we should all overload their lists. When everyone is on the list...

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:35 | 632566 Cognitive Dissonance
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You know you've arrived (at Guantanamo) when you land on the NSA's "List of lists".

Nirvana, waterboard style.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 15:11 | 633271 Lucky Guesst
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I'm not sure I want to know the total amount of lists I am on. I have been holding off asking my doc for xanax as long as humanly possible.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:34 | 632784 A Nanny Moose
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I don't like being on anybody's list. Not even Santa Effing Claus.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:05 | 632688 drbill
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We're all already on a watch list. So you have nothing to lose by writing. Be sure to be especially sarcastic because sane rational arguments don't work with the government.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:44 | 632826 pan-the-ist
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How about leaving a constructive comment rather than an emotional one?

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 15:25 | 633338 Lucky Guesst
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Dear Barry,

You are grossly under qualified for your job and should seek help. If your job performance is delivering the exact results intended then you should probably "seek help" as well.


Lucky's Proxy Server


Thu, 10/07/2010 - 15:19 | 633298 Real Estate Geek
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Joking or not, it's revolting that over the past decade or so many of us, myself included, have perceived a chilling effect on free speech.

The Founding Fathers are probably spinning in their graves so fast that we should wrap them in copper wire and start generating some REAL power.

Although I'm not a fan of country music, I do like this song:

My Country My Ass:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7JY-pn-OkM

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:48 | 632368 Dr. Engali
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That hope and change feels good.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:53 | 632393 Cognitive Dissonance
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It was a tight fit, but they finally got it in there.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:56 | 632409 Careless Whisper
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except for those that got a waiver

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:50 | 632379 belogical
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Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:52 | 632391 Husk-Erzulie
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Dear Barry,

This would be a good time to grow a pair.  But then again maybe hell freezing over is just a litte too much change.  By the way when is your next vacation and how's that drive shaping up?

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:57 | 632420 Bob
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Humor is the best way of making a difficult point--I hope he gets the full message from us. 

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:56 | 632412 John McCloy
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There is absolutely no mystery here.

Would signing off on this bill benefit banks? Yes

Was this done by banking lobbyists to increase their opaque transactions and shield them? Yes

Does the middle class take it in the buns if the bill is signed? Yes

  There you go folks. Dog and Pony followed up by a signature next week.

   In the interim maybe the Fed will shake the markets a little to ensure a signature.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:18 | 632507 ZackAttack
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Pocket veto, though, right?

It was presented to the president on 9/30. If he doesn't sign in 10 days, with Congress out of session, it's automatically vetoed. I don't know how weekends are handled, but that would make it Monday, close of business at the latest.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:08 | 633006 Citxmech
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Is Congress out of session right now?

Pocket veto would be an easy way out if it's available - but the fact that this POS passed the Senate UNANOMOUSLY and is already through the House, leads me to believe that a "new and improved version" would be back on the President's desk the day after they reconvene.  This thing had to set a new record for rubber-stamping it's way through Congress...

BTW, anybody know how come the date in the title is 2009?

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 17:33 | 633753 MichaelG
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Can't find it on the Google as I'm far too drunk, but this (or similar) was originally introduced in 2006. Can't fathom why it's suddenly being rushed through, now, though. (I wasn't kidding drunkwise...)

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:59 | 632425 DaveyJones
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They're taking comments, but the discount window banks have a new program that can move a million comments in a minute 

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:03 | 632452 Arseclown
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Tell the president how I feel...wow, how much time do I have?  Is there a censor close by?  Have that button ready, buddy.  It's about to short out...

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:04 | 632459 Clark_Griswold ...
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oh boy, I'd like to read the unedited version of that thread...


Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:39 | 632806 Hephasteus
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Ukrainian hackers with thier cpus out in the permafrost are probably laughing right now.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:05 | 632462 Apocalypse Now
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Most corporations have been incorporated in Delaware.

If Delaware passes a retro-active law allowing robo-signers without original documents, then based on this latest proposal the other states would need to respect it.  This is an expansion on the mere notary issue, but I think this is the direction.

That way a state would be responsible and nobody in Washington would take the heat for siding with the bankers that a congress person recently said "frankly they own the place".

We have a major structural flaw in our economy that may be intentional or an oversight, I'll leave it for others to judge the intent of the bankers.  Banks no longer have real deposits to loan out, the loan is literally created out of thin air.  So everyone that states home "squatters" do not deserve a free house is reasonable, but on the other hand should ownership of real assets revert to a bank that did nothing but create a loan out of thin air?

Everyone is focused on the P&L of banks, but they are backstopped and we need to start asking important questions like who owns all the houses and stocks with the for profit private Fed buying up all assets with our money - the BALANCE SHEET side. 

The banks won't let supply and demand work themselves out in the market to clear with a lower price, so more than likely if they kick out current residents the property will be empty for a long time (current inventory is well over a year).  So I ask you, who has more of a claim on a property - one that put down a significant down payment and a number of payments, or an entity that created a loan out of the air with a key stroke?  Think about it.  Think about the fraud, write loans to everyone backed up by hard assets and then take ownership of those assets when the inevitable happened once liquidity was reduced in the economy. 

As Charles Lindbergh said in 1913, from now on all deflation will be scientifically created.  Congress voted that they can invest based on insider information, so they could all be buying leveraged SPY calls on fed briefings about POMO actions along with those connected to the fed.  At least Obama gave us a tip last year when he said now would be a good time to invest for the long term - we need another indication now and we could all inflate together.  The market is now the fed, I said it months ago that TA and fundamentals do not matter - the only thing that matters as Lindbergh pointed out is what will BB do. 

Based on reality, record market cash outflows, economics/demographics, geopolitical risks, etc. logic says depression, biflation, less growth.  Everything is over valued based on this back drop, yields are essentially zero or negative considering inflation, they are trying to save the banks by starving everyone else.  So it becomes a question of what will BB do and what will the market makers that are trading against their own clients do?  Why risk getting shanked by the market makers with their intended volatility that eats up stop losses like a game of centipede?  We would need a signal to invest in this, or it is really just a casino.  Is the market the mechanism they will use to transmit inflation?  Should we all go long?

Were our founding fathers right about the international bankers and the warning that we would wake up tenants in the land that our forefathers conquered?  The fed is a private bank owned by the largest banks, and these are owned by a handful of powerful families that also own many other corporate interests.

Could the entire plot be a well thought out end game that results in transferring hard assets and product assets into their hands?  They own a printing press that can not be audited.  Understand that they do not need paper money, they OWN A PRINTING PRESS and would like to exchange that paper for real stuff.


Thu, 10/07/2010 - 17:48 | 633785 MichaelG
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-1 junk. It seems the gubmint is already reading our comments!

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:06 | 632464 MikeyKid
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TD - Here's your chance to submit a comment "on behalf of your membership"...



Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:07 | 632468 williambanzai7
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Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:12 | 632488 Bob
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Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:15 | 632501 Implicit simplicit
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Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:52 | 632634 Miles Kendig
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Pass the Old Spice

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:11 | 632486 Miles Kendig
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You fuckin' fucks need to get up off your fat fucking asses and call collect, fuckin' call direct, just make fuckin' damn fucking sure to call 800-FUCK-OFF today !  Thank fuckin' god I fucking no longer have to fuckin' staff that fucking worthless piece of shit call center or fuckin' need to concern myself with you fuckin' fucks finding out "Rose" lives in fuckin' Mumbai (Which is where we fuckin' maintain all that fuckin' crap).   Fuckin' call and go off.  Yell and fuckin' scream like the little fuckin' bitchez you are.  Fucking whine & snivvel about how we are so fuckin' unfair while we randomly decide who fuckin' owns your fuckin' fucked up motherfucking clapboard and red brick special, just like that stupid fuckin' 401K.  Just make fucking real sure and remember, I am the only fuckin' change you need to fucking believe in, to tip your sweet assed bartender and that Chez Shalom fuckin' does Asian Carp like a fucking champ.

- Love Rahm

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:17 | 632503 Cognitive Dissonance
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I can feel the love.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:30 | 632536 Miles Kendig
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Oh ya.  Big love.  I love missing Rahm being there.  I never knew Rahm was a Daily before, even if he is part of a distant Scottish branch of that Chicago family.  Gotta love the Scots-Irish since I am one myself.

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