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Who Will Be The First To Decrypt The Wikileaks "Insurance" File
With Julian Assange's arrest now seen by many to be a matter of days if not hours, it seems that the Wikileaks founder has taken some modest retaliation precautions, primarily along the lines of the infamous "letter in the mail should something happen to me." Using Bit Torrent, Wikileaks has distributed an "insurance" file, which however is encrypted, and the contents of which are unknown, although may possibly contain at least some of the infamous BofA incriminating selection. It is very possible that Wikileaks will release the encryption code upon Assange's arrest. That said, the insurance file, which can be downloaded from Pirate Bay at the following link, is merely 1.4 GB, and far less than the expected 5 GB which the BofA data is supposed to contain. Since Zero Hedge is read by quite a few hackers, we would like to extend the challenge to all to find the proper key to decrypt the insurance file and spill its contents to the general public.
More from MSNBC:
An "insurance" file has been downloaded from the WikiLeaks site by tens of thousand of supporters, the newspaper reported, meant to trigger a deluge of national and commercial secrets if Assange's activites are curtailed.
Computer experts interviewed by the newspaper said it was unlikely that the U.S. could defeat the encryption in the files. The Sunday Times reported that the U.S. Defense Department said it was aware of the insurance file, which has been available for download since July.
The insurance file seems meant as a threat to governments that would attempt to stop Assange from releasing even more documents — or at least to ensure that the material could be released in the event that WikiLeaks is driven offline or Assange is arrested.
And some more from German website dnews.de, google translated:
These documents should include names of spies, informers, terrorists and dissidents, as well as many other "explosive information". The difference from the published documents at the beginning of this week is that this information has not been edited by English newspaper editors.
As the Dutch daily newspaper De Telegraaf writes, documents bomb had informed Interpol about the threat. The malicious file is 1.4 GB in size and is called insurance.aes256. Any Internet users can now download the file but not read, because it is the most powerful encryption program AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) with secured. The AES is a stronger encryption program, which the U.S. authorities use it as says the Telegraaf. The key is to then give if Julian Assange had been arrested.
Once again, for all with bittorrent client access, the wikileaks insurance file can be downloaded here.
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Best of luck, TD, but don't hold your breath; anyone thinking of trying to brute-forcing AES256, you should look up the Neumann-Landauer limit: for a 128-bit key with no encryption cascade, you'll need about forty bajillion years. And the file is not encrypted with AES256 (misdirection).
Search the interwebs for 'rubberhose' (pronounced 'marutukku'), then cascade it.
Cheerio
GT
Melbourne, Australia. Home of WANK, IS and (until recently) Mendax.
And the file is not encrypted with AES256 (misdirection).
I don't think he need have bothered with a misdirection for the reasons you state. AES is much easier and accessible to work with.
AES is much easier and accessible to work with...
You must have some hella rainbow tables constructed.
As an aside, I know someone here in Belgium who has corresponded with Assange, a few months ago, in fact talking about the issue of possible upcoming smear campaigns to ruin him, which Assange acknowledged. Code may well just be sent out by 3rd party (perhaps under light, quickly-crackable encryption) to certain folks like that correspondent.
But ... Worth a review - Points favouring that Wikileaks is a fraud of US intelligence agencies with Mossad, as noted on the web:
- Board members of Wikileaks from CIA-entities, including ones tied to CIA-Google contracts and funding, and to CIA's front NGO 'National Endowment for Democracy'
- Thrust of Wikileaks revelations supporting US war initiatives against Iran and for military intervention against Pakistan, trying to make Lebanese distrust and fear each other, other US & Israeli larger objectives
- Israeli Prime Minister happy about Wikileaks in effect supporting war in Middle East, and Julian Assange praises the Israeli Prime Minister
- Wikileaks has something like € 1 million in bank, € 200,000 annual budget, supposedly from small 'donations' via PayPal etc. ... but bigger sweetheart funding likely behind it
- Wikileaks website doesn't reflect million-in-assets organisation, many have done much more with much less
- One of Wikileaks site names registered by Jimmy Wales founder of Wikipedia, notorious CIA-agent disinfo site (proven in Wired news etc.), Wales himself part of CIA-linked CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) major US gov't policy tool for oligarchs & establishment
- Wikileaks has unusual super good access to corporate media, NY Times and UK Guardian, both shills - mouthpieces for US and UK governments and establishment, media with fake 'progressive' image but refusing to carry much anti-gov't reporting, however nice open door for Wikileaks
- One of Julian Assange's lawyers is also lawyer for US Associated Press, giant US-gov't linked corporate media agency, owned by major US media owned by ruling US oligarch families
- Julian Assange hostile to other progressive revelations, Assange hostile to questioning about US 11 Sept for example
- Julian Assange childhood troubled, under tutelage of parental figures involved with CIA-mind-control-experiment-type application of severely mind-altering drugs upon children
- Assange has previously used internet code name 'Mendax', ancient Latin word for 'liar'
- Weird situation with Assange and Swedish girls, one of them previously published web treatise on how to get revenge on ex-boyfriend re false accusations, one of them has departed for Israel
- The best lies are those that mix some truth with the lies, and the US gov't, has little problem with a further expansion of the well-known fact it is a torturing, murdering, killing-of-innocents regime. A few more Iraq and Afghanistan war atrocities exposed, are a small price to pay for:
--- A world-class media manipulation project to help sponsor more upcoming wars, and
--- Enabling the US to achieve greater dominance over internet content, and
--- Enlisting other Western governments in US-led global efforts of internet censorship, as has already occurred thanks to Wikileaks.
Just sayin'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brGAgrxscOg
Unjunked
Those who were quick to junk 'bank guy from brussels' should check out Webster Tarpley's (among others) research on Assange and his connections to Soros.
I kept thinking he meant Tyler Durden and Zero Hedge as stooges of the FED and GS.
Yeah, Ty and me are gonna party at the annual FED Xmas party!
See you there! I'LL BE DRESSED LIKE BATMAN!
"one of them has departed for Israel"
Do you have a link for this?
Speaking about Israel. One of the best places to be regarding hacking. At least Israel has done some great things regarding satellite tv hacking.
This is possible of course. if it is, it is. But in the meantime I will continue to fight for the 1st amendment with whatever tools I have.
Your weak smear attempt on Assange is pathetic. Maybe you are CIA/Mossad disinfo plant trying to muddy the water. It won't work.
Hi ITG, Overall "that's weak" accusations without bringing a concise pithy counterargument to a well-crafted listing of issues just does not fly in circles where reasoning and scratching one's chin win the day.
Tersely: Pointing and crying: "Mommy, that's weak!," is as well.
His smear attempt is guilt by association; it goes something like 'his lawyer worked for a us media company therefore he is CIA'. Kind of like accusing the poster of being a Belgian bailout banker who received funds from the ECB, therefore he is a Bernanke plant, therefore he is CIA. But I wouldn't expect you to be able to draw these elementary conclusions. Have I filled in enough detail for you now?
Ok LB, since your discussion rules state that you can make any claims without sourcing or references and it is up to the reader to dismiss your argument, I guess its my turn:
- LB is really an AIDS infected French Gay Prostitute who sells himself for 1 Euro at the Louvre parking lot.
- LB is on the payroll of the Russian Security forces. They are holding photographs of his mother sucking a donkey's cock at the donkey show in Tong Du Chon, Korea.
- LB is really trying to join the Romanian Circus as the bearded fat lady, but not even the Romanians will stoop that low.
Disprove any of that Beatch!
Good points! Thx.
It looks as though TPTB are doing a full court press on Assange.AP now reports PayPal has dropped Wikileaks as a donation option. Destroy the 'enemy' by cutting off funding.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101204/ap_on_hi_te/wikileaks
Well done, CIA. Because there obviously aren't 20 different other ways to get funding to Wikileaks? Perhaps Assagne could get tips from Obama on how to receive millions in small donations from foreign entities?
http://www.floppingaces.net/2010/10/08/you-want-to-investigate-foreign-d...
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Yes. The Daily Bell makes a similar case that wikileaks is misdirection campaign.
http://www.thedailybell.com/1561/WikiLeaks-Clever-PsyOps.html
Let us go with this one at a time:
1. Several members of the advisory board are Chinese dissidents and as such have connections with the NED, but that is hardly unexpected. It is also only natural that the CIA would seek to infiltrate such an organization and manipulate it.
2. The information revealed by Wikileaks is certainly less favorable to U.S. enemies, but that is due in large part to the fact that these cables are low-level U.S. documents. Only a few are even classified as Secret, with about half not even being classified. Exposure of high-level acts in the U.S. government is not likely to emerge in these circumstances.
3. A million euros is really not much and not even remotely hard to get from small donations. Simply presuming there must be some big donor is just absurd.
4. The article you mention was about the CIA and other organizations jumping in to edit articles on Wikipedia, something countless organizatons have been accused of doing. With a site such as Wikipedia you will inevitably find people seeking to make use of it for propaganda purposes. This means nothing as it concerns Jimmy Wales or Wikipedia as an organization.
5. News organizations naturally like getting secret information. Most of the information concerns things news organizations are more than happy to mention and Assange's desire to give this info to the media is influenced in part by the fact that simply dumping the documents does not do much for exposing issues because most people are not going to bother thumbing through thousands of documents. The news media love to do that.
6. Assange having the same lawyers as someone else is another one of those meaningless connections. Some people are true believers and then there is fact that some lawyers are just the best you can get and so naturally you want them working for you.
7. Assange not believing in conspiracy theories regarding 9-11 hardly makes him a shill for the government. Some people see more than enough abuses to expose without having to accuse government of some terrorist act of mass-murder.
I am always one to look seriously at an accusation but so far I am not seeing much of anything indicating that Wikileaks or Assange are tools of anyone.
I'm surprised that Hitler has not commented on youtube yet!
NSA can decrypt AES. Triple DES was a different story, that's why everything is pretty much AES now.
The part about Triple DES is pure bullsh*t. The NSA also promotes the use of Triple DES and has for a long time.
A bit harsh to talk about brute force hacking.
Some analysis of JA's objectives would be the first in my opinion. Eg. JA probably want to have the information on the street fast when something is happening to him. If takes years than the public interest would fade.
Along with a analysis of what encryption is used the posibilities need to be trimed down to have a chance to break at all.
I'm not a professional hacker, but I do have some background in security, and there is simply a technical impossibility in retrieving a key from an AES-256 algorithm, which is - even for the FBI and the NSA - totally impossible to crack.
The only way to crack a file or device encrypted in AES is to bruteforce the password. Knowing Assange, he would have used a password over 8 letters, with caps, numbers and even symbols, which renders a bruteforce attack - even with all the supercomputers of the world running day and night - something which would take several thousand years given the current computational technology.
Password: Swordfish.
If that doesn't work try "Trojan man."
NOT Funny!
Okay, it's a little funny : )
DamnDoublePostsOnZH!!
Glenn Greenwald debate on Wikileaks:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/12/03/wikileaks/index.html
Ibelieve!
greenwald made some lame attempts to kiss koch bros ass wrt
their funding of teaparty and recent tsa hysteria.
more controlled opposition, what a douchebag.
"Too many secrets" - nobody saw the movie Wargames?
Actually, that phrase was from the movie "Sneakers", which by the way is an excellent movie.
No... it's really funny.
Close.
Password:
CrashJPMorganBuySilver
my guess...
1-2-3-4-5
and my guess is..... brokencondom
Has anyone dl'd the file and taken a look at it?
It's a zip... I posted a link to it on Friday I think.
It might be something really stupid simple they did.
Carve that sucker up with some tools and see wtf it is.
First poster sounded like he had already looked at it.
Was it some cascaded nightmare?
thanks for confirming this.. I had a suspicion he might do something easy like an ec'd zip file just to see what kind of interest it would have.
1.38G looks like he might have split it into parts to me. I've never hacked before.. I guess it's time to start.
Ok just for basic education. You don't have 8 letter passwords with AES-256. That would be an 8 bit password. The password is likely anywhere from 129 characters to 256 characters. If it was shorter it would have been cracked by now. Because I can almost guarantee you that there are at least thousands of wacked out folding at home freaks who instantly loaded up gpu crackers on this and start plugging away. Some of them have some pretty insane rigs.
And no this can be brute forced cracked in less than 50 years with current technology.
Though it's a pretty safe bet that people are going to throw out less than 256 bit passwords and concentrate on them immediately, as I've said if its a short key length then it's going to get picked off by crowdsourcing pretty fast.
My guess is he forgot the password and is just stalling.
Actually, before taking an arrogant tone such as "ok just for basic education", you'd better be informed.
"You don't have 8 letter passwords with AES-256. That would be an 8 bit password. The password is likely anywhere from 129 characters to 256 characters."
I'm not talking about the Primary Key, I'm talking about the password. There is both a key and a password. The password makes it easier and quicker to open the crypted volume rather than typing the 256 characters key each time. Those who have really encrypted files with AES in their lives will know what I'm talking about.
"And no this can be brute forced cracked in less than 50 years with current technology."
I assume you're some sort of genius, aren't you? If you know better than the security analysts at Seagate, Adtron and Viking, go tell them.
If I run a 48 character passcode on my wi-fi, then Assange surely used something much more complicated. It's funny how the government gets busted doing their dirt, and as soon as they do, they start claiming the guy is a rapist, child molesterer, etc....in another country mind you, because they can't touch him legally, and they have to dream up ways to stop him from exposing their corruption. Who even heard of him being wanted in another country for a rape case until all these latest documents were released?
I want to see the one where it proves the U.S. faked the moon landing. The video is clear they faked it, now we just to see it in the documents to deny the government the opportunity to keep denying.
This is completely wrong.
An 8-character password is between 64 (ASCII) and 128 bits (unicode).
Each char is 8/16 bits, not 1 bit.
Well I do know this stuff. I know 2^256 is the iteration rates. I know the ascii tables etc etc. Hell I spent my early days in computers giving AT codes to modems and writing ascii codes to printers.
I just said all that in a retarded way. But it got me looking at security. It's not good. People are getting fished to death.
http://www.financetechnews.com/biz-bank-account-hacking-rates-unpreceden...
But the parllelism of these encryptions makes them ripe for gpu brute force hacking which doesn't care if it's messing with rows and columns of piece of texture or rows and collumns of an encryption.
The password strength goes to the key strength. A 8 character password that is a word in the dictionary can not make a strong key 128 bit, 192 or 256 bit.
I am not sure if they would want the password to be UnHackable, what's the point they want to release the info sooner or later anyway
If the Wiki-leaks experiment succeeds, we will be living in a more free world press. Its a revolution.
Agreed. I only want Wikinews - the other 'news' is obviously only spin. Assange just facilitates free speech - why is he so vilified?
I hope wiki-news will be the second step if this succeeds. He is vilified because this US cables created a 9/11 in US diplomacy. You shall read each country's press to see what they are discussing about cables and US diplomats.You will not see any news in US media. Cables show information based on many sources,most of them are trusted sources and gives very true picture but some are gossip about the leaders, important figures ruling in each country. But this all leads me to one conclusion, US diplomats are trying every bit of information about a foreign leader,figure so that they can find his secret which can be used against him if US wants something to be done in that country.
Why is he so vilified?
Here are the reasons I've picked up on so far. Different people and interests seem to have different reasons/motivations.
The US gov agencies are obvious--they've all functioned like the KGB (putting it kindly) and would like to keep evidence out of the news so they can continue operating behind a facade of the nation being a beacon of freedom and all that is good in the world.
Flag-waving "patriot" goons like Leiberman and Palin almost always support fascist "America, love it or leave it, our shit don't stink" perspectives--probably a combination of political exploitation and that underlying amoral or morally twisted predisposition. Most of the common men/women who swoon to them seem like clones of same.
There is another significant group that would seem to support Assange's actions, but fall into attacking him on the basis of their suspicions about him being a CIA front man. Paranoia is unanswerable--you can't prove a negative. People who have an ax to grind about Israel and Jews generally seem to be heavily represented in this group.
That seems to pretty much cover the motivations. What about the means?
False allegations of sexual abuse are legion in the last 25 years. When it is possible to destroy someone by simply uttering a few words, many will naturally do so. Feminists in particular have succeeded in shaping the public mind on these issues, with the resulting environment further favoring false allegations. Not only does the public respond violently--consider sexual offender "registries" and long prison sentences for this "special" group of criminals--but the legal process strongly supports conviction, with prosecutors who press charges in every case without weighing evidence and leave it to the defendant to take a deal . . . which jacks up the conviction rate and further juices the stats on the prevalence of sexual abuse. "Rape Shield Laws" that bar examination of the accuser's past at trial further weaken defense. Finally, there are effectively no penalties for making false allegations--whether the accuser has a flash of conscience and withdraws the allegation or is by some means proven to have lied, they are then charged with the crime of making the false allegation in one out of ten thousand cases at most. Literally. It's the social and legal equivalent of a nuclear weapon . . . and all it takes is double x chromosomes to put it into one's hands. False allegations of sexual "abuse" really are a perfect weapon and a perfect crime--from a criminal's point of view.
In Assange's case, we see this illustrated quite well. Many people react viciously to the mere observation of the obvious possibility that an allegation may be untrue. This is a strongly controlling feature of our current environment.
It would behoove Wikilinks to get a female front person from here on out. There is no way to eliminate false allegations--including chastity.
On that note, it was good to see that Assange got a good female attorney to represent him. Here she is giving an interview that is by far the most comprehensive explanation of the entire matter to date:
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/2/attorney_confirms_wikileaks_founder_julian_assange
anyone who's been through a divorce in the US lately, any man that is, knows what you're saying to be 100% true.
Women are permitted to level the most heinous accusations at men with utter impunity. The child sex abuse allegations are now so frequent, along with the EPO and emergency custody shit, ex parte, that they are referred to as "obligatory" at this point.
And for anyone who's been the target, you know that there is no penalty or consequence for even the absolute silliest of claims. They are accorded full respect by the courts and all the women-run agencies whose job it is to pretend that there is any merit or good faith in the bullshit.
Yes, it is impossible to exaggerate the scale of this epidemic.
It behooves us, of course, to not go off like mad dogs against women--they aren't all the problem, nor is the entire problem women by any means.
Bottom line, however: The spokesperson for any real politically hot cause had better be a woman . . . somebody who is immune to this kind of attack. It is what it is.
In New York State, a married couple is not really a married couple when it comes to the birth of a child. Although there is a birth certificate that is signed by both parents, only the mother has the right to certain information, i.e., only the mother is given certain info to sign.
The father? We don't need no stinkin father. This is NYS. Land of welfare, the creation of a permanent underclass, and the pols who feed off of that machine.
Maybe just to take revenge against the biased system, Western Men should convert to Islam.
I am neither a Muslim nor from West and will never consider this, but just laying out there. Islam can sweeten the deal by allowing Pork and alcohol.
If your government, no matter the country, is making plans for war against a dictatorship or continuous operations against an evil theocracy, do you think it is a good idea that some private outfit blows the bugle horn right before action is taken??? It's not just a matter of free press, and frankly I don't think that is so hard to figure out.
Is Mossad mixed in this???? I would guess yes, but not out of any reasons of paranoia. For reasons that Jews are extremely intelligent people and it would be in their interest (defensive or offensive) to be on top of this whole mess. Does anyone believe that the Israeli Government has some other secrets other than their "open secret" of a well developed nuclear program that they would prefer not become another "open secret"??? Lets not make this more complicated than it is folks.
I bet the files contain who killed JFK and where Elvis Presley lives ;)
...and where Jimmy Hoffa is? Somewhere in a slab of concrete in Giants stadium, I believe, is the rumor. I forget the section number.
Hey, easy on there. I was sittin' shotgun next to Elvis when he was flyin' the UFO last Friday night.
Hoffa, not a clue, but Elvis has been living in my basement since August. Pays $550 per month rent and has always been on time with it. Doesn't cook stinky stuff and is quiet at night (except for the occasional female 'O GOD', loud enough that you could almost expect an answer). Goes by the name Jack Burton now oddly enough, good guy.
Isnt' Zero Hedge a 'WikiLeaks' of the financial world, it seems that ZH and Wikileaks are 2 brothers from different mothers
I agree with that. The only difference is ZH reaches to a much smaller audience, if ZH readers reaches much larger audience, they will try everything to stop it.
No
I think of it more as the Perez Hilton of the financial world.
Embassy dispatches show America used spying, threats and promises of aid to get support for Copenhagen accord
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-us-manipulat...
Good point. Also note that Blythe Masters had been trying to create "Carbon Credit Derivatives" for JP Morgan.
http://thesurvivalistforum.com/index/?p=1469
The insurance file has been out there for a while - not directly related to current charges. I'm not a hacker but understand a little bit about file encryption - Mr. GeoffreyT above is correct - not a chance of breaking this via brute force.
Yeah this was released along with the Afghan war diaries.
anyone try 'Joshua'??? I'd piss on a spark plug if it'd do any good!!!
Stop watching movies as the war is on Dr;)
geez, Tyler........you really don't sleep, do ya?
Sleep is not necessary when you're part of project mayhem.
incubus ftw
Julian could simply trust the rest of his staff to get this material distributed if he is detained. After all, Wikileaks is not just Julian, right? That makes me wonder if Julian is setting up some sort of game/distraction for the world to play while other stuff goes on elsewhere, unnoticed.
I think one game being played in real time now by Julian is how does one get funds to an individual or organization when TPTB control the transmission mechanism(s)? I think there is real value in figuring out how to get funds to Wikileaks/Julian, in spite of TPTB's clamp-down, that all terrorist organizations can benefit from. On the other hand, if no one can figure out how to break the blockade, then the idea of insurrection via internet is probably dead.
The idea of yes I can via internet is being met with oh no you can't. It will be interesting to see which side wins. But I've always thought that the idea one can do anything they want over the internet was naive. We are now getting a first-hand demonstration of all the ways that TPTB can control what is allowed to happen on the internet. I've always figured it would end this way. Now we are seeing just what TPTB can do to maintain control in real time. By forcing their hand, Julian is making their defense tactics visible - so that others can see them and figure out a way to neutralize them or get around them. Interesting game being played.
"I've always figured it would end this way."
WTF. Ends what way? This is the game that never ends.
I've always figured that attempts at insurrection via the internet would be stopped by TPTB - through the means that they have been employing now. It is a simple matter of informing the various gateways that, either you play with us, or you don't play at all (hosting sites, paypal, credit card companies, etc.).
My take is that Wiki-leaks is opening a second front.
Put TPTB on the spot with the leaks - and - get them all tied up in knots chasing a chimera.
Julian is all but completely irrelevant to the process now except as a figure head and a focus. And as a distraction... so that all the blowhards end up chasing him and miss what the other hand is doing.
In the same vein as "it is not the crime which gets you in trouble, it is the cover up", all the chasing after Assange does is force the hands of the blowhard mouth-breathers, and the more they rail and rage, the more likely they are to overstep the mark and get themselves into trouble.
The Canadian academic douche who called for him to be assassinated, or the Aussie AG who said 'we are going to scour the statutes to see if we can find something to charge him with' only demonstrate how bankrupt our governments are. The more on display how rabidly fascist they are, the closer they are to inciting blowback, rebellion and revolution.
As for the arrest warrant against Assange, what a joke. WL must be pissing themselves with laughter over that.
So what...? They extradite him back to Sweden and put him on trial... the case has so many holes and will attract so much attention, they will look like Jack-asses if they pursue it. Even if they get a conviction, as I understand it, it is a misdemeanor offence. So what they gonna do? Fine him $500...?
And then there is the complianants, boy are those two going to come under the spotlight. Something smells really really, fishy there. How do you spell "set-up' and 'Honeypot trap' (ohh, I just did).
The only thing I see Assange being guilty of so far is being naive about women.
But from a strategic and political perspective, all that is irrelevant. He gets to be the lightening rod, and he draws the slimeballs out from under their cloaks and logs -all the better to skewer them.
The more the public gags on the tactics being used against him, the more WL wins. It is practically guaranteed. TPTB are so cocksure in their righteousness, smugness, contempt and belief in their superiority and cleverness, they can't stop themselves over-reaching.
The trick is to tease them out, then give them enough rope to hang themselves. I would say it's a lock.
Let me explain how it works. They extradite him to Sweden, where he will be sitting in a jail cell. Just as he's about to make bail...BAM... they hit him with 127 counts of espionage, or whatever. This charge is just to lull him into a false sense of security. If they filed the real charges, before they have him in custody, he might go into deeper hiding.
Cops do it all the time. They'll make up some bullshit obstruction of justice charge, or some other misdemeanor just to get someone to go down to the police station. Then once that person is there, they hit him with the real felony charges. Works like a charm. It saves the cops the trouble of having to actually go and look for the person. They just call him up on the phone, leave a card on his door, or a notice on his car...
One time, they stuck an abandoned vehicle sticker on my car. I went down to the station to complain, because the car was legal, and they started asking me a bunch of questions about where someone I knew was. Of course, I answered with those four little words, "I want a lawyer", and that was the end of that.
+1!
Here is a good link for beginners knowledge of how to handle yourself in a police situation:
http://flexyourrights.org/10_Rules
And you imagine JA would get anywhere near a cell without being FULLY lawyered up?
I am saying it doesn't matter if he gets arrested, or charged with other stuff. It will turn into a media and legal circus, and WL still wins. Whether JA personally has to spend some time in the hole doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
(duplicate)
We have "heard" in Macao that there is a contract out on the U of C "pseudo-professor"
Permanent end to problem.
when we people stop thinking the whole fucking internet is controlled by America????
didn't you see google get thrown outta china?? didn't you read that Russian and China do cyber attacks that the USA can't stop??
its a lot bigger battle ground than you just having your netflix censored
Wake up!
Why do all countries want to have the blackberry encryption? Very reliable encryption with 2kb encrypted packages. Now RIM is sharing if with every country on demand.
But hey nothing is controlled of course!? You are off course when you believe. But than again only a monkey is a believer. http://bit.ly/noa0
can you restate?? you seem drunk... the control is on all sides of the battle lines.. not just under the USA
One can only control what they can actively access physically.
The internet itself isn't under control. Just the roads in and out from the US.
And shutting down their paypal account was most interesting - I think there will be a big backlash (and paypal really sucks too which won't help). Any one thinking about an alternative online payment plan .... might be a good opportunity?
Deposit amt to be transferred into a bank acct.
Encrypt the following information to recipient of funds:
Bank Name,
Acct number,
ABA Routing number,
Amount in the acct to transfer,
Name of Acct holder,
Misc info or instructions.
Send encrypted email to recipient, along with instructions on which
previously sent key to use on the file (there are ways to do this, "Applied Cryptography" explains all the protocols)
Recipient de-crypts the email and sends a wire transfer request from their bank, using the supplied info.
Who needs Paypal? If TPTB continue to get uppity, ALL banking will soon be performed with encrypted data, bypassing the IRS (or foreign-equivalent). Hard to tax someone's income, when you have no idea what it is or where it's at!
Huh? This makes no fucking sense. Bank A needs to contact Bank B to transfer funds from Acct X into Acct Y. The second this happens, the IRS or local regulatory body is notified. Even assuming you were able to use offshore accounts in privacy-friendly havens, it won't matter because of just how badly Julian's fucked himself. Under normal circumstances, competing national interests /typically/ constrain just how far any one country can go. As it should. How much dry diplomatic power do you want to waste going after corrupt politicians and shady businessmen when you have much broader goals of keeping things together to achieve? Why do you think money laundering is as lucrative as it is?
By releasing those diplomatic cables, he's created a situation where the State Department (and those of other nations) has absolutely nothing to lose and every employee is Man On Fire, ensuring nothing less than the full force of sovereign will to make his life, de facto, over. And I'd easily wager the US would cash all her chips in to make sure the only way JA will get paid is on the back of a donkey.
Depends on the parties to the wire transfer. If on one end is the Fed and the other..... it may never be known.
You are already afoul of the Patriot Act Banking BS if you do that.
Check it.
i heard Julian is setting up a free checking account in BAC today...
RP said:
"By forcing their hand, Julian is making their defense tactics visible - so that others can see them and figure out a way to neutralize them or get around them. Interesting game being played." thanks for thinking this out, with some obvious expertise in the military 'munitions/weapons' concept...
of course, communications, since the invention of the telegraph, then the telephone...'they can/will insurrect and overthrow the government...commercial communications must be monitored/controlled/regulated and specifically articulate into the Criminal Law Code...and more recently the blackberry in both india and dubai/UAE, etc...need a back door to encryption..etc..
thinking of the entire WW2 German Battle of the North Atlantic, near Iceland/Greenland....some 900 submarines were launched, some 850 sunk, 30,000 sailors died...because of pure faith in unbreakable encryption, the 8 then 10 wheel ENIGMA machine on every submarine and the insistance by Donitz in DAILY REPORTS/DAILY ORDERS... all of which DECRYPTION precipated ALLIED generic computing machines, by 1948 the limits were the 'tube-technology' 4800 tubes, guaranteed an upper 'maintenance limit. but by 1955 commercial-grade discrete transistors and magnetic core memories..and IBM computationally intensive 'business machine applications..
thinking of the USA Bureau of Standards,about 1978 approving of DES 56 bit for banking and some military...a kind of govvenment 'warrantee' was given...then Triple DES 56X3, etc..then prime number-based algorithms, easily implemented on HOME COMPUTERS...and so forth...now the NIST (bureau of standards 2010)...still provides a kind of legal cover, prudentman standard warrantee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard
but which standard, has been made less sure, by "quantum computers"...which are really really good for decryption, but really have no other 'edge' regards normal numerical modeling...
http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,Buff_081304,00.html
it matters not if the NSA can/cannot decrypt this...strategically it is NOT GOOD to reveal your capabilities/limits..anyway, sooner, or Later...no matter THE MESSAGE CONTENT will be revealed....but not the National Security Agency capabiilities
BUT, as noted by RP:
"I think one game being played in real time now by Julian is how does one get funds to an individual or organization when TPTB control the transmission mechanism(s)? I think there is real value in figuring out how to get funds to Wikileaks/Julian, in spite of TPTB's clamp-down, that all terrorist organizations can benefit from. On the other hand, if no one can figure out how to break the blockade, then the idea of insurrection via internet is probably dead"
its ABOUT money...which is 'information' of a special kind...and needs some special 'communications' parameters...firstly the communications must have 'integrity' the byte-count, the Cyclic code, the parity-bit...etc, it must a special character of non-repudiation...call it 'custody/chain of evidence no 'refudiation', and there must be the special aspect also of ??? the third must have...(i forget, but it is basic stuff...)
so there are TWO issues HERE, the private money concept and the private generic information concept...which as of year 2010 have converged technologically, converged as weapons of political/economic warfare waging...
THESE TWO, are in the big picture/long run...by far more important than the 1-2gig message overt contents
NAMELY does the individual, ultimately "have an exit" from State Power...or is there 'existentially' "NO EXIT" ..Is there a technological final, scientific 'near law of nature, mathematically provable' limitation...that presumeably will hold for centuries, regards possibility of social change, tactics...and 'Hegelian history' indeed, 'the end of History..'
Thanks for fleshing out what I was thinking.
does the individual, ultimately "have an exit" from State Power...or is there 'existentially' "NO EXIT"
Exactly. And I don't read minds, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is what Juilan is testing in some way. Looking for the weak points and smoking out the tactics so others can develop responses to them. I think the ability of people to transfer their funds undetected is a good test of whether people have an exit from State power. Stychokiller gives a good alternative for transferring funds above these posts.
Lesson Number One: You must have a female spokesperson. Simply an undeniable fact at this point.
i completely agree, Bob. after speaking to several 'liberal-minded' women about this issue, Assange's "persona" is the #1 obstacle to them really considering the true issues that are underlying these disclosures.
just listen to what Amy Goodman focused on in her interview with his lawyer for example.
time for the ladies who can see beyond this to step up to the microphone.
I was greatly impressed by Amy for giving his attorney the air time . . . considering how her liberal constituency knee-jerks on gender issues. That was no small thing she did.
The focus of the interview was appropriate, I thought. After all, he wouldn't need an attorney without the arrest warrant. And the sexual allegations have taken center stage in the public mind.
Between the lines, I was thrilled to see her pushing to get the right points out of the interview. Seemed to me that she was pro-Assange without being obvious.
Honestly, by the end of that interview I was feeling like I would be at least as happy to wake up next to Amy as I would be with Assange's lawyer. Seriously.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/2/attorney_confirms_wikileaks_founder_julian_assange
It's a neat game alright.
what happens when it ends up costing us all free access to the internet?
That is how you win the No You Can't Game.
I am getting sick of all this. For last 8 months, I am thinking this is not going to last long. But it does all the time. I think we the cowards deserve to be slaves to these powerful people.
The governments are by the (rich) people (who fund the campaigns) and for the (rich) people (who milk the system at our expense).
I have lost all hopes of getting back to fair societies, and see the end of the world as the best way out of here. I am really getting sick. :-(
Fair societies? Fairness has no chance in this world. We're as much evil bastards as we are creatures that can do good. Being "fair" has become disadvantageous in the cut-throat world.
it's all self-reinforcing, really. We're products of our culture, or society. We're...what we are, basically.
Burn it down, tear it apart, stomp on it, throw it away--doesn't matter. The problem is "human": Whatever is built in the place of this will eventually end up just as corrupt and just as screwed up.
Go be an Amish. They thrive in spite of it all.
next bubble.... Amish Wooden Sheds... Citi is offering SELOCs on them now
Wait till Amish become TBTF.
Then, they will have to become feudal slaves, like us all-plebes-already are.
No Amish worth the name would ever become TBTF. The success of their lifestyle depends upon their cooperation with the rest of their community.
Ahem...Consider for a moment the qualities associated with the Amish: simplicity, personal integrity, community, and the use of appropriate technologies. Then ask yourself if these aren't the very qualities that will serve us well in the dysfunctional future that is fast approaching.
As for Assange, he would never depend on a brute-force hack (i.e. "exhaustive search") to reveal his message. My guess is he has already made sure that at least one other person has the encryption key.
The problem is "human": Whatever is built in the place of this will eventually end up just as corrupt and just as screwed up.
No, the problem is the system which is, of course, inhuman. When a master class assumes sovereignty (which rightly belongs solely to the individual) only tragedy can follow. Don't fear humans; fear the human who holds sway over the others and so wields an unnatural power.
"...fear the human who holds sway over the others and so wields an unnatural power."
Nah, don't fear 'em, but keep your eye on 'em.
the earth will start over... probably with the bees next
-Faulken
It appears that now Julian will be killed in UK itself, with investigating agencies proving that he committed a suicide. This gets mandatory as his assassination or arrest will fuel further support fromthe masses. And the key will never be released. Trust me. This file was upload in July. Its no more an insurance arising out of current scenario.
yep - they'll keep him icky.. say he hung himself while masterbating
If I could be bothered, I'd start with this:
http://iq.org/~proff/marutukku.org/current/src/MYTHOLOGY
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Thanks for that strange, strange journey.
interesting indeed.. especially the bottom
this one's pretty interesting as well:
http://iq.org/~proff/marutukku.org/current/src/doc/maruguide/t1.html
In the midst of discussing the actions of someone who is trying to make information more transparent, we are learning of new ways to make it more difficult to detect. Sweet.
maybe the password is 000000
I'd try 12345.
open sesame?
12345 is the kind of combination only an idiot would have on their luggage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K95SXe3pZoY
I tried that on my suitcase and it wouldn't work. Only has 3 knobs.
Just like my last captcha.... 28 times -28 equals_____
Entered -784 and told me couldn't be more than 3 digits long.
Now, philosophically the "-" sign is not a digit but then again WTF is is's definition, and thus the answer, like Russell's Paradox is simply the null set.
Double mushroom and sausage, please.
*
Oh, boy! A puzzle. I love puzzles.
Wow! My first repeat in over a year of posting. It gave me a strange error screen, with somthing about "Varnish" on it. Or perhaps I've been drinking.
doubt if it was a misperception... we all can assume that with ZH, everything since Jan 2009 has been recorded, every comment crossindexed in detail...all that, including "repetition varnish" probably an NSA intruder just for fun and paranoid torture... was further amusing himself,. while watching free government porno, which is also provided to the SEC workforce and other agencies..
Damn, dood, you have been drinking. You describe an incident we all have, where your reply generates an Error 503 (iirc) Service Unavailable screen (when there's a lot of traffic. ) When you recover your live connection to ZH, you will usually find that the comment got posted . . . and if you hit "submit" again under the reasonable assumption that it didn't get through the first time, you get a double post.
The password is BOSCO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyEFiaUQYGE
I bet Kramer could hack the code.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY03ymgskNI&feature=related
Never say Never! This information will come out one way or another, like it or not. All secrets about this corrupt government and banksters will be revealed!
I'm downloading the file right now. It's creepy and frustrating to have 1.38 Gbytes of State secrets on his hard drive without being able to read them.
~1500 seeds... tee hee hee.
Small potatoes compared to the SEC porn files.
It looks like we're finally going to find out how McDonalds makes their special sauce.
It's Thousand Island dressing and relish.
1.4Gb for that? Bummer!
Password = BANGDAEHO
LOL
Add this "!!1!" on the end.
its not 'GOLD BITCHEZ' ???
!d@3h0
I'm really trying not to be a dick here but you want people to submit ***docs*** and you're acting like 256 can be cracked after a few govvies get their manties in a wad?
The next classic dis-info ploy.
Make the perp a martyr.
The playbook looks worn and dog-eared.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
ORI:
All this keeps reminding me of two books I read years ago...
The Glass Bead Game {WikiLeaks ?}
The final novel of Hermann Hesse, for which he won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1946, The Glass Bead Game is a fascinating tale of the complexity of modern life.
The Glass Bead Game takes place at an unspecified date, centuries into the future and whose exact nature remains elusive and whose devotees occupy a very special school.
The rules of the game are only alluded to, and are so sophisticated that they are not easy to imagine.
Playing the game well requires years of hard study of music, mathematics, and cultural history. Essentially the game is an abstract synthesis of all arts and sciences. It proceeds by players making deep connections between seemingly unrelated topics.
Siddhartha , {Julian Assange ?}, is Hesse's more well known novel that deals with the spiritual journey of a boy from the Indian subcontinent during the time of the Buddha.
Both are very enlightening: considering present events.
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Glass Bead Game... A tune:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-sDylhKE2U
I haven't read The Glass Bead Games though I'm very familiar with Siddhartha - read it when I was young and try to re-read it every few years to counter my cynicism, which seems to grow every year.
You should look at some of Iain Banks/Iain M. Banks works. Under Iain Banks he writes fiction while under Iain M. Banks, he writes Science Fiction:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iain_Banks
And there has been a few good novels from Margaret Atwood over the past few years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oryx_and_Crake
glass bead game...thanks for the reminder yes, i have been meaning to read that since...? 1968 i think...i better, hurry, huh
Ain't no hurry! Bring it with you to your friendly FEMA camp...will be plenty of down time to read it there.
will those camps allow iPads??
Sorry, folks, books will not be permitted. Approved materials will be shown on a single large screen.
How dare you leave out "Steppenwolf" and "Journey to the East"!
Bring them also.
FEMA camps are going to be the re-education camps for the future USSA.
I'll bring my Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn collection, especially The Gulag Archipelago.
Maybe we can meet up in a FEMA "goofing-off place": a Sharashka, secret research laboratory, where the arrested and convicted scientists were anonymously developing new technologies, and also conducting basic research.
Ah, yes the Glass Bead Game. (and Siddhartha, etc)
And Der Steppenwolf
Thanks for Bringing them back into my mind from my memory.
Magistrate Ludi...
Seems like many of us here went to different schools together.
Hail the ZH community !
No need to go to the movies this month ;-)