Why Did The U.S. Refuse International Help on The Gulf Oil Spill?

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Wed, 06/09/2010 - 19:31 | 404774 Blues Traveler
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If you didn't like Bush your going to hate Obama huessien... 

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 19:07 | 404679 benb
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Posted in error-removed

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:16 | 404433 caconhma
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Obama and his WallStreet puppeteers are totally incompetent in running the country. The same is going for the Congress.

Only things they know very well are how to


  • Lie
  • Get "donations" [aka bribes]
  • Steal
  • Destroy the country and its economy
The bottom line: the USA cannot survive in its present form. Elections will not do a shit. Are Bush people were any better than Obama people?  Yes, Bush/Cheney were total criminal POS but Obama and his puppeteers are outright dangerous. PS OK America, you got a "change". Now, enjoy it!


Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:10 | 404423 P-K4
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It is ironic how we (US) rapidly fly in to assist world disasters with little red tape, bringing in a wealth of supplies, food and emergency aid but with our own backyard disaster, we are refusing outside help.

I was under the impression we were busy tapping the minds of the brightest and best. Was that limited to Ivy league schools only ? A growing number of observers believe this is the prelude to cap & trade legislation and while I think they are right, they may be missing a key point.

IMHO, I think TPTB will bury cap & trade legislation in some kind of Gulf Clean Up & Prevention Bill and anyone opposed to it will be targeted come November. It will be like fighting the healthcare bill,  "how dare you deny 46 million uninsured common folks their right to healthcare ?"  

"Open and Transparency" really means murky waters, slick operators, under the blanket of oil, and open season on taxpayers & businesses.



Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:27 | 404464 lostinmissouri
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Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:58 | 404400 SmittyinLA
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LOL like the UN can help.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:51 | 404378 free_as_in_beer
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Shock doctrine, never let a crisis go to waste. 

How about we abolish our protectionist immigration policies and banking laws as well?

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:25 | 404299 halelauncher1940
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I agree with Soul.  The lack of effort to stop the oil gusher has to be part of "The Program"  No one, not even our government can be this incompetent.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 15:50 | 404158 Jake Lamotta
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pride "cometh" before the fall & this disaster will bring the USA on its knees.  Obama swallow your pride & seek the help needed so that the poor wildlife does not get exterminated.  Poor sea animals and birds being sentenced to death because the president cannot humble himself and seek assistance from another experienced nation.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 15:38 | 404113 sgt_doom
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Oh....I see....only illegal Mexicans and British Petroleum Brits can work there?????

Why do I have extreme difficulty in taking this post seriously?

Hmmmm...evidently this is the ONLY law the gubmint is obeying.....certainly no member of our criminal congress has ever heard of .......conflict-of-interest?????

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 15:28 | 404080 Thoreau
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America is God; and being God, is omniscient and infallible. Now that's the power of pride.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:11 | 404249 RockyRacoon
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You may have put your finger right on the problem.  Pride, and fear of being responsible.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:55 | 403958 Clycntct
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When your inside the box how are you going to see what's outside the box.

It would do our world good to put this thread  out to all contacts just to bring the possibilities of thought to all that we encounter.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:10 | 404246 RockyRacoon
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EURO chart indicates a move soon :

Say, scary clown dude, you got a chart that will predict my bowl movements?

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:41 | 404348 Howard_Beale
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Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:33 | 404325 DoChenRollingBearing
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bowl movements indeed!  Now you can't go back and change it Rocky, lol.

If he charted MY bowl movements..., well let's not go there because it would not be pretty...

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:36 | 404335 RockyRacoon
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... it would not be pretty...

Mine as well.  Why do you think I wanted some predictive charting?!

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:40 | 403900 Joe Shmoe
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Also because Sarah Palin says we can't trust those old foreigners to our great nation.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:58 | 404398 DosZap
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Sarah has more Patriotism in her left toe pinky, than this Admin, or ANY one in it.( If they have any at all).Which I seriously doubt.

If left to her, we would be a hell of a lot less dependent on drilling at 5k feet for oil, and Anwar would have been cooking long ago.

Seems like all they have focused on is how can we F* up this place faster, and more completely?.

Done a damn spot on job thus far......much to my chagrin.



Wed, 06/09/2010 - 15:28 | 404076 docj
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Ah yes, the snowbilly.  So powerful and influential she can drive policy even when she's not currently serving in public office, in any capacity, anywhere.

Truly a Wonder Woman, she.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:30 | 404315 DoChenRollingBearing
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H/T to you docj!  Took care of Joe quite well.  Carry on.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:48 | 403934 Soul
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Because they are not really interested in stopping this. It is all part of the program.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:37 | 403888 moneymutt
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Thanks, good question...we did same thing during Katrina...MX and Cuba right there with their own version of Coast Gaurd helicopters like ours to pluck people off roofs, dump them off at airport...but no, we can't let them help us, better people die.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:32 | 403872 Fix It Again Timmy
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"By now it should be clear to anyone: This government 'help' has made things dramatically worse, just as government reliably makes things worse in all spheres of life that government involves itself in. For many reasons, coercive government is the worst way to do anything. Like gravity, Ringo's Law {The Beatle} is a built-in rule of the universe, omnipresent and unavoidable. There is no country on Earth where the Law is not conspicuously on display: 'Everything government touches turns to crap'."

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 15:21 | 404054 merehuman
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The gulf is a crime scene. the criminal is in charge of the crime scene. How rare!

The government cannot do a better job, but they can insert the priorities of our nation rather than BPs attempts to obfuscate and minimize the damage verbally while attemps to mitigate the disaster are inadequate.

Chemtrail the air, poison the waters and ruin the economy. All man caused and beginning to look like a mass suicide  or an alien plot to get rid of us.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:28 | 404310 DoChenRollingBearing
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Every day it seems like the news gets worse (both in the Gulf and everywhere else).

I hope that Cog Dis's chapters on our collective & individual insanity will be a spark to help us save the USA and the whole world.

We are doing it to ourselves in so many ways.  May God have mercy on us.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:26 | 403851 Miss Expectations
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Because we have to execute all the stupid ideas first.


The Amount Of Neurotoxin Pesticide Corexit Sprayed By BP Tops 1 Million Gallons


Wed, 06/09/2010 - 18:08 | 404555 cossack55
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If you like a good novel, try "The Last Gasp', vintage 70s' but oddly topical again.


PS Author   Trevor Hoyle     $0.01 used on amazon

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:25 | 403844 Seal
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Uhhhhhhh, because that way Congress and the "administration" - RAHM - can get more 'campaign contributions' from the oil companies?

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:20 | 403833 faustian bargain
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Why? More government jobs, and higher GDP.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:17 | 403824 Ripped Chunk
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Because we are arrogant, know-it-all fuck sticks?

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:13 | 403807 williambanzai7
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Why are they using volunteers and part timers instead of the military to protect and clean up the shoreline?

Pump up the job figures.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:14 | 403812 Sudden Debt
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12$  a hour. Even my cleaning lady makes more.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:10 | 403796 augmister
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In the words of Ram Emanuel, "Crisis creates opportunities..."   Cap and Trade?  VAT?

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:13 | 403809 Sudden Debt
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I guess these last 2 year created TRILLIONS of opportunities! :)

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:10 | 403795 Rick64
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Can we please help, before you pollute every goddamn ocean on the planet?

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:09 | 403791 DosZap
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Or, to be totally cynical, the worse it get's the better it is for CRAP & TAX.

I put NOTHING beyond the scope, and designs of this administrations asperations, and end game visions for US. 

It's for ALL the marbles.................ALL.

Not just the US, but the entire world.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 18:04 | 404551 cossack55
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Another wide-awaker.  So many on ZH, the place is the ZH Zone.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:42 | 403907 Mesquite
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Ya, events are bad enuf..But still worth keepin an eye on the chessgame overall..

The last time this was entered, it was pounced on, quickly swept under the rug..But notice the date...May 1,2010..(Nuclear option mentioned then..) However, upon reading all the thoughtful posts here, not so sure about that option.. 


And now...Interesting 'transparency'...


ZH..glad ur back up..fear one day u won't be..till then it's 'One day at a time..'

Appreciate all...

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:56 | 403944 RockyRacoon
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The dispersal agent Corexit 9500 is a solvent originally developed by Exxon and now manufactured by the Nalco Holding Company of Naperville, Illinois that is four times more toxic than oil (oil is toxic at 11 ppm (parts per million), Corexit 9500 at only 2.61ppm).  In a report written by Anita George-Ares and James R. Clark for Exxon Biomedical Sciences, Inc. titled “Acute Aquatic Toxicity of Three Corexit Products: An Overview” Corexit 9500 was found to be one of the most toxic dispersal agents ever developed. Even worse, according to this report, with higher water temperatures, like those now occurring in the Gulf of Mexico, its toxicity grows.

A greater danger involving Corexit 9500, and as outlined by Russian scientists in this report, is that with its 2.61ppm toxicity level, and when combined with the heating Gulf of Mexico waters, its molecules will be able to “phase transition” from their present liquid to a gaseous state allowing them to be absorbed into clouds and allowing their release as “toxic rain” upon all of Eastern North America.

Reports are also coming from the United States that their government is secretly preparing to evacuate tens-of-millions of their citizens from their Gulf of Mexico States should the most dire of these scientific warnings start to come true.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:49 | 404375 DosZap
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They will be Evacing a corse if they try that shit on me, or a lot of other  Texans.

If I get Evac'd I  willbe the one to decide.

BHOLE, has an ACE up his sleeve, he's just waiting to spring it......

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 15:47 | 404146 Sespian
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Knowing that this exact same thing happened 31 years ago and that the exact same failed attempts to stop the leak (in order I might add) FAILED, makes one think there is more than coincidence happening on this stage.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmhxpQEGPo  Something is amiss...

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:01 | 404204 RockyRacoon
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Ixtoc was in about 200 feet of water!  If the reported plumes are actually there, a HUGE amount of oil is coming from this disaster.  The use of the dispersant just keeps it below the surface, so the sun and heat can't break up the oil.  Wow.  Imagine the slick that could develop if all that oil had surfaced!  Nine months of this spewing monster could be...  Well, use your imagination.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:27 | 403855 knukles
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Now you're gettin' it! 

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 14:05 | 403774 Sudden Debt
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My wife works for De Nul as a geo programm analist and they are THE BEST!

They actually have experience with thing like this. They made the palm three islands, the world, they are dredging 4 new seaports in Korea, Mexico, China and Iraq.

They work for almost every big middle east oil company in building refineries, oil rigs, these guys are the best geo engineers in the world.

They already send out plans to cap the leaks 3 weeks after it was aired!

De Nul even says they can cap it in 4 to 6 weeks!


Wed, 06/09/2010 - 13:40 | 403687 Gordon_Gekko
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Because perhaps the US Government is nothing but a WORTHLESS PILE OF CRAP?

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 18:03 | 404545 cossack55
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Hey, GG, I know many piles of crap and on their behalf I take umbrage at you for comparing the to my friends.  If you wish to compare the goobermint to a WORTHLESS PILE OF FIGGYDOWDY thats ok.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:06 | 404417 bigkahuna
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This article is going to claim that the "Jones Act" stopped them? These guys operate daily and have done so for decades--in a daily and routine mannor--in violation of the US Constitution. How does anyone think they have to abide by any written rule. What a bunch of bs.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:55 | 404392 gmrpeabody
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Because perhaps the US Government is nothing but a WORTHLESS PILE OF CRAP?


Why make insulting comparisons like that , Gordon. That pile of crap did nothing to you.

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